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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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 Quoting: ShylaRose


One of the interesting possibilities they bring up(altho considered less likely by them for now) is 'antigenic sin' which sounds rather like ADE?

quote Antigenic sin (vaccination resulting in an immune response that is dominated by antibodies to previously experienced viruses/vaccines) meaning that it becomes difficult to revaccinate to induce antibodies to the new strains.

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Circuses. Sniff. Sniff.


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Butt swabs are even more accurate!

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 Quoting: ShylaRose


One of the interesting possibilities they bring up(altho considered less likely by them for now) is 'antigenic sin' which sounds rather like ADE?

quote Antigenic sin (vaccination resulting in an immune response that is dominated by antibodies to previously experienced viruses/vaccines) meaning that it becomes difficult to revaccinate to induce antibodies to the new strains.

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New one on me.... antigenic sin leads to ADE, if I read correctly...

Antibody Dependent Enhancement Due to Original Antigenic Sin and the Development of SARS


Less than 50%

In conclusion, the development of IgG against SARS-CoV-2 in the course of COVID-19 might not be a simple sign of viral clearance and developing protection against the virus. On the contrary, due to cross-reaction to related coronavirus strains from earlier infections, the patient's viral history of coronavirus infection might be crucial to the severity of the course of the current infection with SARS-CoV-2, a phenomenon that has been called in the context of influence infections “original antigenic sin.” Furthermore, it poses a note of caution when treating COVID-19 patients with convalescent sera.

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 Quoting: ShylaRose


One of the interesting possibilities they bring up(altho considered less likely by them for now) is 'antigenic sin' which sounds rather like ADE?

quote Antigenic sin (vaccination resulting in an immune response that is dominated by antibodies to previously experienced viruses/vaccines) meaning that it becomes difficult to revaccinate to induce antibodies to the new strains.

verydamned
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Minor difference, ADE as I understand it is like celebrating loudly how you defeated the 10 occupying soldiers in your village not expecting the 1k troops in the fort the town over are gonna whoop your ass. More of vengeful response to a underestimated enemy.

This sounds more like stubbornly using cavalry charges against machine gunner positions well into the 20th century because it always worked. More of a learning deprived reliance on what worked before.
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That's a good idea, Dyin. Thanks!
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
These aren’t the camps but this is a phase in of the zones. Since they found out that can’t do it all at once. They are going to ease into it.

Well.... this will get weirder sooner then.

That's right. The camps are coming. Straight from the CDC.

You better read it.

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]
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 Quoting: CleverCreator


Soooooooo

They will be rounding up the old and disabled first??? Separating from their families in some cases?

Where have I heard something like this happening before...??? hmmmmm......maybe in Germany..?

I can't believe what is happening right now.

Neighborhood Level:

A designated shelter/group of shelters (max 5-10 households), within a small camp or area where high-risk members are grouped together. Neighbors “swap” households to accommodate high-risk individuals.

Camp/Sector Level:

A group of shelters such as schools, community buildings within a camp/sector (max 50 high-risk individuals per single green zone) where high-risk individuals are physically isolated together.

Additional Considerations
The shielding approach outlines the general “logistics” of implementation –who, what, where, how. However, there may be additional logistical challenges to implementing these strategies as a result of unavailable commodities, transport restrictions, limited staff capacity and availability to meet the increased needs. The approach does not address the potential emotional, social/cultural, psychological impact for separated individuals nor for the households with separated members. Additional considerations to address these challenges are presented below.


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The latest line being pushed on UK TV news:

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That's a good idea, Dyin. Thanks!
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Not a happy thing to think of. But my dad caught it and was dead in less than a week. And wasn't feeling bad enough to need to go to the hospital that I know of.

He didn't have a will. And it has been nothing but drama from my family dealing with all of that.

You don't want to have to go through that when you are grieving.

But yeah, she needs to realize what she is doing by going to 'help'. Is this the 12 hour shifts they asked her to do or was that from another poster I read??
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
These aren’t the camps but this is a phase in of the zones. Since they found out that can’t do it all at once. They are going to ease into it.

Well.... this will get weirder sooner then.

That's right. The camps are coming. Straight from the CDC.

You better read it.

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79243298

 Quoting: CleverCreator


Soooooooo

They will be rounding up the old and disabled first??? Separating from their families in some cases?

Where have I heard something like this happening before...??? hmmmmm......maybe in Germany..?

I can't believe what is happening right now.

Neighborhood Level:

A designated shelter/group of shelters (max 5-10 households), within a small camp or area where high-risk members are grouped together. Neighbors “swap” households to accommodate high-risk individuals.

Camp/Sector Level:

A group of shelters such as schools, community buildings within a camp/sector (max 50 high-risk individuals per single green zone) where high-risk individuals are physically isolated together.

 Quoting: dyin


I truly think they might only get away with it when the food runs out at stores. Folks will have to choose.

But in communities that can hunker down and wait it out. Or even rural households.... they aren’t going to waste man power.

Cities and some suburbs.
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 Quoting: ShylaRose


One of the interesting possibilities they bring up(altho considered less likely by them for now) is 'antigenic sin' which sounds rather like ADE?

quote Antigenic sin (vaccination resulting in an immune response that is dominated by antibodies to previously experienced viruses/vaccines) meaning that it becomes difficult to revaccinate to induce antibodies to the new strains.

verydamned
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Sounds like we all done for at some point. Vac or infection we doomed
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Hi Everyone,

this video is saddening. These two poor ladies (both nurses iirc) --victims of vax injuries were interviewed months ago, and they still have symptoms. Some are apparently worse now.

Interestingly, Nurse Angela Deselle reports at 4m that her injury is helped by Ivermectin!

Who can deny people this treatment and feel like they are doing the right thing? Baffles me!


www.bitchute.com/video/f8Hzc5MUZFix
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I suspect that ivermectin is helping them because it's a GABA-A agonist.

I found this out a week or so ago when I got sick and immediately started the protocol for ivermectin treatment just in case. By day 2, I noticed quite a bit of sedation/relaxation. Unfortunately, when it wore off I also experienced withdrawal effects from only three days of dosing because I am benzo injured. So I looked up how ivermectin works and sure enough, it kills parasites through its effect on GABA.

Anyway, if this is where their benefit is coming from, ivermectin almost assuredly will stop working for these women at some point. Then, they'll have to deal with withdrawal or tapering at the least combined with worsening of initial symptoms. I really hope I'm wrong
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Scientists believe the mouthwash, which uses a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) to detect the virus, provides real-time results and can be administered by anyone.

Corresponding author and professor of cell biology Christof R. Hauck, PhD, said: 'Our results show that in all cases, where people were positively tested by the gold standard nasal swabbing, one could also detect the virus in gargle lavage by the same RT-PCR method.'



 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


“ Patients must pour the solution into their mouth, swill it round their mouth and then gargle with the solution.”

Not sure it would be a good idea to gargle with that chemical concoction !!
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Interesting...

Israel to begin ‘widely’ administering Moderna COVID vaccine on Sunday

Until now, Israel used its Moderna doses to inoculate Palestinians who work inside Israel, but has given the Israeli population solely Pfizer after a deal was struck with the company to receive as many vaccines as Israel needed in exchange for the country providing infection and side-effect data to Pfizer.

[link to www.jpost.com (secure)]

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The latest line being pushed on UK TV news:


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Absolutely fantastic.

Last Edited by ParamedicUK on 07/31/2021 03:41 PM
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Nigeria to receive new batch of 4 million doses of Moderna Covid-19 vaccine tomorrow

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Interesting...

Israel to begin ‘widely’ administering Moderna COVID vaccine on Sunday

Until now, Israel used its Moderna doses to inoculate Palestinians who work inside Israel, but has given the Israeli population solely Pfizer after a deal was struck with the company to receive as many vaccines as Israel needed in exchange for the country providing infection and side-effect data to Pfizer.

[link to www.jpost.com (secure)]

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Well the first mRNA version failed so let’s try another one.

Morons!

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That's a good idea, Dyin. Thanks!
 Quoting: Vego


Not a happy thing to think of. But my dad caught it and was dead in less than a week. And wasn't feeling bad enough to need to go to the hospital that I know of.

He didn't have a will. And it has been nothing but drama from my family dealing with all of that.

You don't want to have to go through that when you are grieving.

But yeah, she needs to realize what she is doing by going to 'help'. Is this the 12 hour shifts they asked her to do or was that from another poster I read??
 Quoting: dyin


Ugh, I am so sorry to hear that. Sending you and your family all the good vibes. And thanks again. Appreciate the good advice.
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But it’s not a net gain.... infected is infected....

The long term is still now lurking in more people.

Cognitive decline followed by more dementia type illnesses that we can’t manage safely.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Holy shit... How many times do we need to say it. It prevents some transmission.

Infected is infected (not really but I will stipulate).

But not infected is not fucking infected.
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Vaccinated and infected

[link to sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com (secure)]
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HOLY SHIT, YES BREAKTHROUGH INFECTIONS FUCKING HAPPEN. I SAID THAT.

90% vaccination rate at UCSF.

So 9.0% of the 3,500 unvaccinated were infected

And 0.5% of the 31,500 vaccinated were infected.


In the past month, UCSF has had 183 employees or learners test positive for COVID-19 out of a total UCSF population of approximately 35,000. The statement said 90% of those were cases acquired in the person’s community or home.

Of those, 153 had been vaccinated and 30 had not. Officials said only two of the vaccinated cases required hospitalization. Without vaccinations, hospital officials said they would expect to have 767 COVID-19 cases given the current positivity rate among those UCSF individuals who have not been vaccinated.
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Will testing even matter by December?
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Yes.
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Will testing even matter by December?
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Yes.
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You let me know how October goes.
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epic noodle chart

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Will testing even matter by December?
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Yes.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


You let me know how October goes.
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I will. My guess is if I remember... I will be telling you that in October, November, and even December... testing will matter.
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Will testing even matter by December?
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Yes.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


You let me know how October goes.
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I will. My guess is if I remember... I will be telling you that in October, November, and even December... testing will matter.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


If I am wrong.....great.

The next issue is to watch what cluster fuuuck develops the 3rd shot in Israel

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