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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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If people start posting music videos please ban them!
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Maybe Bann people who dictate how to run Somebody Elses' thread ?
But I am Not doing that !?!
We were Forced to Tolerate Heart Meds for how many months?
Watcha goin do when it is slow, middle of the night and such?
Give a man a break, shit !


See ?


Good Evening Folks....

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Many people in this thread are justifiably skeptical of taking these largely untested vaccines that are being pushed hard by the government and will generate astronomical profits for a few megacorporations.

Most of these very same people wholeheartedly support draconian lockdowns that have been mandated by the government and have generated astronomical profits for a few megacorporations.

Do I have to spell out the incredible irony?

Fuck a vaccine passport. Get a vaccine if you want one, and leave me alone

Fuck a mandatory lockdown. Hide if you want to, and leave me alone.

It's really not that complicated.

If you want Massa Gub'mint to lock you in your cage and inject you with The Science, then move to China (or Europe, sadly). This, however, shouldn't be tolerated, much less begged for, in these United States.
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" POSTOFTHAFUKKINDAY Right There "

Thank YOU Sir, Words Of Wisdom To Start My Day !?!

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Brazil's Covid outbreak is global threat that opens door to lethal variants

Duke University neuroscientist urges international community to challenge Brazilian government over its failure to contain it.

“What’s the point in sorting the pandemic out in Europe or the United States, if Brazil continues to be a breeding ground for this virus?”


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Brazil’s Covid outbreak risks spawning even DEADLIER variants that ‘could force world back into lockdown’ despite jabs

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“What’s the point in sorting the pandemic out in Europe or the United States,

if XXXXX

}> Insert ANY Country in the World//Due to AIR FUCKING Travel <{


Continues to be a breeding ground for this virus?”


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Wait, so many billions have already been spent on the pandemic in the UK, many of it misused sending unfathomable sums of money to cronies of government to pay for inadequate covid services. But now all of a sudden some extra millions can't be found for the people who deserve it the most?


The government is coming under further pressure to reconsider its planned 1% pay rise for NHS staff, with more unions joining the backlash.

The British Medical Association and other unions said their staff "have literally kept the country alive for the past year".

In an open letter to the chancellor they called for a "fair pay deal".

Health Secretary Matt Hancock earlier defended the pay increase, saying it was "what we think is affordable".

But healthcare staff reacted with anger at the plan. The Royal College of Nursing called the rise "pitiful" and started preparing for strike action, saying that its members should get 12.5% instead.

And Unite - the third largest union in the NHS - said it is considering a strike ballot.

Now more unions have joined their calls. The BMA, the Royal College of Nursing, the Royal College of Midwives and Unison have written a joint letter to Chancellor Rishi Sunak to express their dismay

The proposal of a 1% pay offer, not announced from the despatch box but smuggled out quietly in the days afterwards, fails the test of both honesty and fails to provide staff who have been on the very frontline of the pandemic the fair pay deal they need," the letter said.

Our members are the doctors, nurses, midwives, porters, healthcare assistants and more, already exhausted and distressed, who are also expected to go on caring for the millions of patients on waiting lists, coping with a huge backlog of treatment as well as caring for those with Covid-19.



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Wait, so many billions have already been spent on the pandemic in the UK, many of it misused sending unfathomable sums of money to cronies of government to pay for inadequate covid services. But now all of a sudden some extra millions can't be found for the people who deserve it the most?


The government is coming under further pressure to reconsider its planned 1% pay rise for NHS staff, with more unions joining the backlash.

The British Medical Association and other unions said their staff "have literally kept the country alive for the past year".

In an open letter to the chancellor they called for a "fair pay deal".

Health Secretary Matt Hancock earlier defended the pay increase, saying it was "what we think is affordable".

But healthcare staff reacted with anger at the plan. The Royal College of Nursing called the rise "pitiful" and started preparing for strike action, saying that its members should get 12.5% instead.

And Unite - the third largest union in the NHS - said it is considering a strike ballot.

Now more unions have joined their calls. The BMA, the Royal College of Nursing, the Royal College of Midwives and Unison have written a joint letter to Chancellor Rishi Sunak to express their dismay

The proposal of a 1% pay offer, not announced from the despatch box but smuggled out quietly in the days afterwards, fails the test of both honesty and fails to provide staff who have been on the very frontline of the pandemic the fair pay deal they need," the letter said.

Our members are the doctors, nurses, midwives, porters, healthcare assistants and more, already exhausted and distressed, who are also expected to go on caring for the millions of patients on waiting lists, coping with a huge backlog of treatment as well as caring for those with Covid-19.



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1% at least I can have a pint of beer a week on Boris.
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Trumpian Bolsonaro murderers.
Lago
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Trumpian Bolsonaro murderers.
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He said “enough fussing and whining” yesterday !!
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Charts displaying England's seropositivity and deaths among different age groups... Deaths went up a lot but seropositivity not so much (from natural virus)?


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Charts displaying England's seropositivity and deaths among different age groups... Deaths went up a lot but seropositivity not so much (from natural virus)?



 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


So did the vaccines kill them off ??
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Wait, so many billions have already been spent on the pandemic in the UK, many of it misused sending unfathomable sums of money to cronies of government to pay for inadequate covid services. But now all of a sudden some extra millions can't be found for the people who deserve it the most?


The government is coming under further pressure to reconsider its planned 1% pay rise for NHS staff, with more unions joining the backlash.

The British Medical Association and other unions said their staff "have literally kept the country alive for the past year".

In an open letter to the chancellor they called for a "fair pay deal".

Health Secretary Matt Hancock earlier defended the pay increase, saying it was "what we think is affordable".

But healthcare staff reacted with anger at the plan. The Royal College of Nursing called the rise "pitiful" and started preparing for strike action, saying that its members should get 12.5% instead.

And Unite - the third largest union in the NHS - said it is considering a strike ballot.

Now more unions have joined their calls. The BMA, the Royal College of Nursing, the Royal College of Midwives and Unison have written a joint letter to Chancellor Rishi Sunak to express their dismay

The proposal of a 1% pay offer, not announced from the despatch box but smuggled out quietly in the days afterwards, fails the test of both honesty and fails to provide staff who have been on the very frontline of the pandemic the fair pay deal they need," the letter said.

Our members are the doctors, nurses, midwives, porters, healthcare assistants and more, already exhausted and distressed, who are also expected to go on caring for the millions of patients on waiting lists, coping with a huge backlog of treatment as well as caring for those with Covid-19.



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1% at least I can have a pint of beer a week on Boris.
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


This 1% is an absolute insult. I was disgusted when I heard the news.
I read somewhere that it equates to something like £3.50 a week. Can you even get a pint for that anymore?!eyeroll2
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France's case growth has stalled for now... but ICU's at 2021 high


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Notice the HIGH Level of PPE [ Personal Protective Equipment ]

This person is wearing

THIS is what you would need

To SAFELY go to the Grocery....

or ANYWHERE IN PUBLIC


" Are You Ready For What Has Begun? "

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Charts displaying England's seropositivity and deaths among different age groups... Deaths went up a lot but seropositivity not so much (from natural virus)?



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So did the vaccines kill them off ??
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Charts displaying England's seropositivity and deaths among different age groups... Deaths went up a lot but seropositivity not so much (from natural virus)?



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So did the vaccines kill them off ??
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Hope not.

verydamned
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bump
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W o w

From 2000 hospitalized to 7000 hospitalized in the space of two weeks. This is only one region of Brazil but is a similar story in the rest of the country. P1 is a true horror.



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Covid vax being tested on animals


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Back to trying the antivirals


U.S. drugmaker Merck & Co Inc said on Saturday the experimental antiviral drug molnupiravir it is developing with Ridgeback Bio showed a quicker reduction in infectious virus in its phase 2a study among participants with early COVID-19.

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Elsewhere in South America getting hit hard -- Paraguay



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Oh my goodness.... hobbies? Shopping?

Get some damn origami, coloring books....

Hell.... get the junk mail and make some collages.

There is this amazing tool called the internet...... have these people never said hey google give me a list of new things to try?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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...


If this is long lasting then it will cause a health crisis in its own right. We are starting to take patients to hospital with long covid issues - often chest pain and shortness of breath!
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Appreciate your on the ground info.

Worst of all you don't need to have had a symptomatic covid infection or have been hospitalized to develop long covid. Which is why if the vaccines don't bring the transmission chains to a halt then the issue of long covid is still going to be causing problems.

And those studies regarding the parkinsons/dementia
... if they are on to something then we won't know the full extent of the long covid problem for years to come.
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And that might get screwed too by infections 3 through 4..... reinfections only increase as variants keep “escaping”.
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the virus is just going to stop entirely when there is no evidence to suggest that will happen is just unbelievably irresponsible
and will lull people into a false sense of security.
redface


, but saying it is likely to happen is just wrong.


The pace of Covid-19 vaccine administration in the US continues to improve, each day bringing the country closer to herd immunity -- the point at which enough people are protected against a disease that it cannot spread.

This week, President Joe Biden said that the US will have
enough vaccine for every adult by the end of May
, and a

CNN analysis of federal data


Now...Here are 2 "Authorities" I 'll Trust ??
NOT//H

shows that herd immunity is likely not far behind.

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A Whole Buch of Lies and Propaganda

To Con the Sheeple into getting Poked with Poison....

God, what a mess...

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W o w

From 2000 hospitalized to 7000 hospitalized in the space of two weeks. This is only one region of Brazil but is a similar story in the rest of the country. P1 is a true horror.




 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Something is worrying in these two graphs from worldo?

There is no obvious lag between deaths and cases. And as the medical system collapses the death rate storms up quicker than cases.


https://imgur.com/fU9h79f

https://imgur.com/4A7h9a8

Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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W o w

From 2000 hospitalized to 7000 hospitalized in the space of two weeks. This is only one region of Brazil but is a similar story in the rest of the country. P1 is a true horror.




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Again, Here Is MY Tsunami

Not Bragging, Just Saying I SAW this Coming

Next Wave?

3-4 weeks X 4

Hold on.....

~Hnry~


Denver Doom Hors

MOST OF THE WHOLE WORLD

wILL BE lOCKED THE fUCK dOWN hard

In ONE Months' time
Biden A hoedickhed



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Wait, so many billions have already been spent on the pandemic in the UK, many of it misused sending unfathomable sums of money to cronies of government to pay for inadequate covid services. But now all of a sudden some extra millions can't be found for the people who deserve it the most?


The government is coming under further pressure to reconsider its planned 1% pay rise for NHS staff, with more unions joining the backlash.

The British Medical Association and other unions said their staff "have literally kept the country alive for the past year".

In an open letter to the chancellor they called for a "fair pay deal".

Health Secretary Matt Hancock earlier defended the pay increase, saying it was "what we think is affordable".

But healthcare staff reacted with anger at the plan. The Royal College of Nursing called the rise "pitiful" and started preparing for strike action, saying that its members should get 12.5% instead.

And Unite - the third largest union in the NHS - said it is considering a strike ballot.

Now more unions have joined their calls. The BMA, the Royal College of Nursing, the Royal College of Midwives and Unison have written a joint letter to Chancellor Rishi Sunak to express their dismay

The proposal of a 1% pay offer, not announced from the despatch box but smuggled out quietly in the days afterwards, fails the test of both honesty and fails to provide staff who have been on the very frontline of the pandemic the fair pay deal they need," the letter said.

Our members are the doctors, nurses, midwives, porters, healthcare assistants and more, already exhausted and distressed, who are also expected to go on caring for the millions of patients on waiting lists, coping with a huge backlog of treatment as well as caring for those with Covid-19.



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1% at least I can have a pint of beer a week on Boris.
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1% is an insult
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W o w

From 2000 hospitalized to 7000 hospitalized in the space of two weeks. This is only one region of Brazil but is a similar story in the rest of the country. P1 is a true horror.




 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Again, Here Is MY Tsunami

Not Bragging, Just Saying I SAW this Coming

Next Wave?

3-4 weeks X 4

Hold on.....

~Hnry~


Denver Doom Hors

MOST OF THE WHOLE WORLD

wILL BE lOCKED THE fUCK dOWN hard

In ONE Months' time
Biden A hoedickhed


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Hnry, you are correct, I fear
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Covid vax being tested on animals



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BLKWUT
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W o w

From 2000 hospitalized to 7000 hospitalized in the space of two weeks. This is only one region of Brazil but is a similar story in the rest of the country. P1 is a true horror.




 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Again, Here Is MY Tsunami

Not Bragging, Just Saying I SAW this Coming

Next Wave?

3-4 weeks X 4

Hold on.....

~Hnry~


Denver Doom Hors

MOST OF THE WHOLE WORLD

wILL BE lOCKED THE fUCK dOWN hard

In ONE Months' time
Biden A hoedickhed


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Agreed with you weeks ago when it was just the Amazon - this could tear the world up more than the first strain.
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Oh my goodness.... hobbies? Shopping?

Get some damn origami, coloring books....

Hell.... get the junk mail and make some collages.

There is this amazing tool called the internet...... have these people never said hey google give me a list of new things to try?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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chuckle

These strange covid times are a real eye-opener for sure.
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W o w

From 2000 hospitalized to 7000 hospitalized in the space of two weeks. This is only one region of Brazil but is a similar story in the rest of the country. P1 is a true horror.




 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Something is worrying in these two graphs from worldo?

There is no obvious lag between deaths and cases. And as the medical system collapses the death rate storms up quicker than cases.


https://imgur.com/fU9h79f

https://imgur.com/4A7h9a8

 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Good find.

Could be they're running low on testing capacity or people in some areas don't have to means available to them to find a place to go get tested... unless they get hospitalized and/or die.

Brazil is at like 60k cases average at the moment? Yeah for the number of deaths they're having that seems to me very much on the low side. In my opinion many cases aren't being registered.

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I suppose you get to the point that cases mean even less than they did and at the end of the day the only true graph to measure the impact is deaths.

P1 could also be a lot more deadly ?!

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I suppose you get to the point that cases mean even less than they did and at the end of the day the only true graph to measure the impact is deaths.
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Yeah and on top of that there's the excess deaths numbers which are seen as a more reliable indicator of actual covid deaths in some countries because there are those who die due to the covid but for one reason or another their death certificate doesn't mention covid. I remember this happened a lot in Mexico last year where people were suspected to be dying from covid in large numbers but they were afraid to go to hospital or hospitals were full etc. That resulted in a big discrepancy between official covid deaths and the excess death toll.

Well the same thing is probably happening in Brazil right now. Many hospitals are full, people can't get there so a great many are probably dying in their own homes and aren't having their deaths diagnosed as a covid death. So if they're recording 1,800 covid deaths per day now then maybe it's more like 3,000 in reality.





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