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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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tweet thread continued:

Permanent increase of $130 million/year for child care assistance and expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit & Child Tax Credit

$170 billion to help K-12 schools and higher ed institutions re-open

100% fed reimbursement for FEMA resources

$25 billion in grants to help small restaurants remain open

$350 billion in direct support for state and local governments

$13 billion for nutrition programs

$10 billion to reauthorize the State Small Business Credit Initiative

Extensions to COVID relief programs that offer supplemental unemployment benefits and expanded paid leave for workers affected by COVID

$30 billion for supplies and PPE for frontline workers

$5 billion for Americans experiencing homelessness
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Portugal concerned about P1...




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I have lost my little yellow button at the top right corner Henry--“What’s the point in sorting the pandemic out in Europe or the United States,

if XXXXX

}> Insert ANY Country in the World//Due to AIR FUCKING Travel <{"
Totally agree, makes no sense. 125,000 people flying into the USA from Europe every day. 9% increase in virus in Europe. States opening up everywhere, back to January 2020, $trillions in extra debt.

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From my perspective, Florida is absorbing the spill over exposure from Brazil. We are not getting the full picture of how bad Brazil has been hit.
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Charts displaying England's seropositivity and deaths among different age groups... Deaths went up a lot but seropositivity not so much (from natural virus)?



 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


So did the vaccines kill them off ??
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


yes
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}> That IS an old photo they keep using <{

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Well spotted, ha. That account is a small company that copies all their news from rooterz. But the least they could have done is invested in a wider range of stock phots. Buncha cheapskates! tounge
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


I remembered it because of my joke about

"Long Pork Bacon" that I used first time I saw the photo

Look in the bowl to left of tray, that looks like Farm Bacon, Big Fat Slabs we used to cut up on the Farm. Friend Carpenter I lived with for a year, he and his father raised and butchered their own Pork, was Good Stuff


The photo was used in Conjunction with the photos of the Hospital full of cadavers that had been hacked up for body parts maybe 5-6 weeks ago? Was on the Big CV thread.

"Organ Harvesting People ALMOST DED"

Sick goddam world we live in today...Anything for a Buck


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So many different variants arise with this e484k mutation. I still don't know if this means they will create a booster shot that would work on all variants that have the e484k mutation... or if it means they would create a new booster shot every time a different variant with the e484k mutation becomes dominant... if you see what I'm saying?

Dutchy, where are you?!
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Whichever way generates the MOST profit

THAT is what they will do

"You Know it's True"


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So many different variants arise with this e484k mutation. I still don't know if this means they will create a booster shot that would work on all variants that have the e484k mutation... or if it means they would create a new booster shot every time a different variant with the e484k mutation becomes dominant... if you see what I'm saying?

Dutchy, where are you?!
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Whichever way generates the MOST profit

THAT is what they will do

"You Know it's True"

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jay
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"The government says it is not in the public interest to know whether it acted unlawfully."
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I have lost my little yellow button at the top right corner Henry--“What’s the point in sorting the pandemic out in Europe or the United States,

if XXXXX

}> Insert ANY Country in the World//Due to AIR FUCKING Travel <{"
Totally agree, makes no sense. 125,000 people flying into the USA from Europe every day. 9% increase in virus in Europe. States opening up everywhere, back to January 2020, $trillions in extra debt.
 Quoting: Lago


Odd that you've lost your quoting ability..

Been seeing Strange things on the web site...


Like a single crimson yesterday with a Rude comment, becomes a double last night with just "Violated Posting rules"
How does that happen?
Thinking Mods are Not real, it's all CGI BullShit...

Strange days indeed.
More and More convinced of my belief "Tailored to each of us"
Mental evaluation//IQ daily fukkin test etc, etc....

The web site gets Pissy if you suggest three letter data mining and controlled

so I won't go there....


~Hnry~


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fukk me !!


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This is the variant surveilance from the Rio Grande area of Brazil. Just take a look at P1 in the grey... It appeared sometime during December. Then a cluster cluster, and a month later, BOOM! It went from about 3-4% of all new cases to 65-70% of all new cases in the last 2-3 weeks?!


clusters clusters boom2

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The Above VANISHED...Did NOT Post...

Had to remove one particular paragraph { after getting the sumbytch BACK }
Then re-insert the Offending paragraph after it posted...
fukk me !!


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Only just cottoned onto the situation in Paraguay looking at the other thread. Societal breakdown on the cards.

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Paraguay. I wonder if P1 is at play.

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Here is your weekend-doom:
There is something inside the big picture, i would like to clearify.

Any new virus seeks to infect as many new hosts as possible. This infection number is dominated by two main factors:
The rate of infection during the illness and the selective pressure by the response from human society. Let's examine the various scenarios.

Scenario A: The rate of infection is more or less steady during the illness.
Then
the longer the infected person lives, the more new potential hosts are reached,
the spread of a dangerous virus will be hampered by the social response.

This results into a selective pressure which favours new virus mutations which are less dangerous/lethal. This is what is mostly observed in new viruses: The mutation into harmlessness.

Scenaio Br: The rate of infection strongly varies during the infection

B1: Stronger infection during the end of the illness and high lethality. A good example is Ebola, which is very lethal and spreads mostly near the death of the victims. It kills the host too fast and evocs a strong social response (quarantine) . Therefore Ebola will never be a global threat.

B2: A strong infectivity at the very beginning of the sickness. The current example is Covid. The first few days are most infectious, before the virus moves into the body. For the spread of the virus it does not matter whether the host will die shortly after these highly infectious days or lives to old age. There is a natural selective pressure for increased viral multiplication during these first few days, which will favour mutations with a higher reproduction rate. Therefore more mutations will spring up and spread, which may have multiple pathways for cell-entry. In future the ACE2-pathway might not be as much in the focus as it is for now.

This natural selective pressure will produce new immuno-evasive mutants with a much higher viral load and therefore will have a resulting higher lethality.
A good example is the P1-mutation: The average CT-threshold in PCR-tests is 1.91 times lower for the P1. This translates into a ~4 times higher viral load. Not to talk about the upcoming California-strain....

This virus will mutate further into a monster.

So, you better buckle up, it is going to be messy.
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Only just cottoned onto the situation in Paraguay looking at the other thread. Societal breakdown on the cards.


 Quoting: lightning1977


Considering I expected the numbers to be Doubling

Every week

About One Month ago

" It Could Be Worse//But I Know Not How "

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Times are Becoming like this Video...

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Here is your weekend-doom:
There is something inside the big picture, i would like to clearify.

Any new virus seeks to infect as many new hosts as possible. This infection number is dominated by two main factors:
The rate of infection during the illness and the selective pressure by the response from human society. Let's examine the various scenarios.

Scenario A: The rate of infection is more or less steady during the illness.
Then
the longer the infected person lives, the more new potential hosts are reached,
the spread of a dangerous virus will be hampered by the social response.

This results into a selective pressure which favours new virus mutations which are less dangerous/lethal. This is what is mostly observed in new viruses: The mutation into harmlessness.

Scenaio Br: The rate of infection strongly varies during the infection

B1: Stronger infection during the end of the illness and high lethality. A good example is Ebola, which is very lethal and spreads mostly near the death of the victims. It kills the host too fast and evocs a strong social response (quarantine) . Therefore Ebola will never be a global threat.

B2: A strong infectivity at the very beginning of the sickness. The current example is Covid. The first few days are most infectious, before the virus moves into the body. For the spread of the virus it does not matter whether the host will die shortly after these highly infectious days or lives to old age. There is a natural selective pressure for increased viral multiplication during these first few days, which will favour mutations with a higher reproduction rate. Therefore more mutations will spring up and spread, which may have multiple pathways for cell-entry. In future the ACE2-pathway might not be as much in the focus as it is for now.

This natural selective pressure will produce new immuno-evasive mutants with a much higher viral load and therefore will have a resulting higher lethality.
A good example is the P1-mutation: The average CT-threshold in PCR-tests is 1.91 times lower for the P1. This translates into a ~4 times higher viral load. Not to talk about the upcoming California-strain....

This virus will mutate further into a monster.

So, you better buckle up, it is going to be messy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104773


An informative explanation. Thank you.
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Oh shit... Uncle Doom knew?!





Le Monde, a popular newspaper in France, has published an interview with a Professor of Epidemiology, Antoine Flahault.

It is quite possible , indicates to the World Antoine Flahault, professor of public health and director of the Institute of global health (University of Geneva). Air pollution by fine particles may be responsible for worsening the epidemic both in the number of new infections and in hospitalizations of Covid-19 cases .

The role of high concentrations of fine particles in the air could be one of the major determining factors in both the transmission and the severity of Covid-19," even considers Professor Flahault. Whether they are of natural origin such as desert sand or anthropogenic, fine particles are associated with epidemic rebounds in communicable respiratory diseases, and in particular Covid-19.

In an article published in November 2020 in the journal Earth Systems and Environment, the epidemiologist and his colleagues at the University of Geneva show a correlation between the occurrence of these pollution peaks and sudden surges of contamination. From the analysis of daily records of pollutant concentrations in Paris, London and in the Swiss canton of Ticino, they observed that "epidemic storms" (in March in Paris) coincided or occurred just after peaks. PM 2.5 fine particles (less than 2.5 micrometers in size), the most dangerous for health because they penetrate deeply into the body.

[link to www.lemonde.fr (secure)]


It is upon the air carried by particulate pollution for miles.
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And let’s not forget the next epic bad decision in the U.K....

Kids go back to school.... March 8th.....

[link to www.bbc.co.uk (secure)]
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tweet thread continued:

Permanent increase of $130 million/year for child care assistance and expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit & Child Tax Credit

$170 billion to help K-12 schools and higher ed institutions re-open

100% fed reimbursement for FEMA resources

$25 billion in grants to help small restaurants remain open

$350 billion in direct support for state and local governments

$13 billion for nutrition programs

$10 billion to reauthorize the State Small Business Credit Initiative

Extensions to COVID relief programs that offer supplemental unemployment benefits and expanded paid leave for workers affected by COVID

$30 billion for supplies and PPE for frontline workers

$5 billion for Americans experiencing homelessness
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


This is less than a trillion. Where is the other trillion?
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Occupancy rate of ICU beds for Adults amongst Brazil's states (by date order)


explosion

https://imgur.com/JirAUzI

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Probably coming to the USA?
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I have lost my little yellow button at the top right corner Henry--“What’s the point in sorting the pandemic out in Europe or the United States,

if XXXXX

}> Insert ANY Country in the World//Due to AIR FUCKING Travel <{"
Totally agree, makes no sense. 125,000 people flying into the USA from Europe every day. 9% increase in virus in Europe. States opening up everywhere, back to January 2020, $trillions in extra debt.
 Quoting: Lago


Odd that you've lost your quoting ability..

Been seeing Strange things on the web site...


Like a single crimson yesterday with a Rude comment, becomes a double last night with just "Violated Posting rules"
How does that happen?
Thinking Mods are Not real, it's all CGI BullShit...

Strange days indeed.
More and More convinced of my belief "Tailored to each of us"
Mental evaluation//IQ daily fukkin test etc, etc....

The web site gets Pissy if you suggest three letter data mining and controlled

so I won't go there....


~Hnry~


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The Above VANISHED...Did NOT Post...

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Its back! Any music requests?

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Lago posted this guy, In CC's thread

I fucking Love him.


...


Holy Shit

The Man Cusses More than CC and Myself !!


Love it !!

TNX for posting that, I gotta plaster him all over now

SUPERB FUKKING HONESTY


We need more like him

Shit, make him PM for Chrissakes ?!?



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Here is your weekend-doom:
There is something inside the big picture, i would like to clearify.

Any new virus seeks to infect as many new hosts as possible. This infection number is dominated by two main factors:
The rate of infection during the illness and the selective pressure by the response from human society. Let's examine the various scenarios.

Scenario A: The rate of infection is more or less steady during the illness.
Then
the longer the infected person lives, the more new potential hosts are reached,
the spread of a dangerous virus will be hampered by the social response.

This results into a selective pressure which favours new virus mutations which are less dangerous/lethal. This is what is mostly observed in new viruses: The mutation into harmlessness.

Scenaio Br: The rate of infection strongly varies during the infection

B1: Stronger infection during the end of the illness and high lethality. A good example is Ebola, which is very lethal and spreads mostly near the death of the victims. It kills the host too fast and evocs a strong social response (quarantine) . Therefore Ebola will never be a global threat.

B2: A strong infectivity at the very beginning of the sickness. The current example is Covid. The first few days are most infectious, before the virus moves into the body. For the spread of the virus it does not matter whether the host will die shortly after these highly infectious days or lives to old age. There is a natural selective pressure for increased viral multiplication during these first few days, which will favour mutations with a higher reproduction rate. Therefore more mutations will spring up and spread, which may have multiple pathways for cell-entry. In future the ACE2-pathway might not be as much in the focus as it is for now.

This natural selective pressure will produce new immuno-evasive mutants with a much higher viral load and therefore will have a resulting higher lethality.
A good example is the P1-mutation: The average CT-threshold in PCR-tests is 1.91 times lower for the P1. This translates into a ~4 times higher viral load. Not to talk about the upcoming California-strain....

This virus will mutate further into a monster.

So, you better buckle up, it is going to be messy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104773


This is a point that I am questioning, and I am not a virologist, but I understand that the virus wants to find as many hosts that it can to infect, and it will thrive as long as it has susceptible hosts.

Now, say Covid virus finds a host that has been vaccinated and it invades and is attacked, lets say by the MRNA produced spike protein and it is fighting the Covid virus. This would theoretically make the Covid virus stronger and stronger to fight the vaccine. That host transmits that stronger fighting Covid virus into the next vaccinated person. That stronger Covid virus becomes a monster as this process continues throughout the vaccinated population until you have Covid killer virus on steroids. Could my theoretical model happen?
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Only just cottoned onto the situation in Paraguay looking at the other thread. Societal breakdown on the cards.


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I’m confused about Malta. Didn’t someone from there post recently saying that the whole population had been vaccinated?
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Interesting article on politics and how it’s affecting the Brazil response.

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One million people have entered the UK since the SA strain was discovered.

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Vaccine antibodies pass into breast milk.






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