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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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Only just cottoned onto the situation in Paraguay looking at the other thread. Societal breakdown on the cards.


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I’m confused about Malta. Didn’t someone from there post recently saying that the whole population had been vaccinated?
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Nope. Here in Malta under 15% of the population have been vaccinated so far. The government estimates that, at current rates, 70% of the adult population (the percentage estimated needed for herd immunity) will have had two doses of vaccine by October.
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Only just cottoned onto the situation in Paraguay looking at the other thread. Societal breakdown on the cards.


 Quoting: lightning1977


I’m confused about Malta. Didn’t someone from there post recently saying that the whole population had been vaccinated?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79961303


Nope. Here in Malta under 15% of the population have been vaccinated so far. The government estimates that, at current rates, 70% of the adult population (the percentage estimated needed for herd immunity) will have had two doses of vaccine by October.
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And, also, those figure are wrong. 258 was not a record. The highest so far was 362, recorded on 4th March 2021. Remember, Malta has a population of around 450,000.
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Vaccines effective against p1. But no detail yet on how effective.

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Here's an even better idea...

SHUT DOWN ALL AIR TRAFFIC!!!
Truth never damages a cause that is just
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So have there been any information released on how symptoms may differ in these different strains or anything?

I can't seem to find anything concrete. Seems they "may" spread easier and "could possibly" be more deadly.... But that's all I can find. No details as to how.

Are incubation times longer? More asymptomatic? Less coughing more headaches??

Can't find shit about them!
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A very interesting idea that particle pollution (including sand) could help the spread.

Here in Malta, we have had record cases in the last week, and a lot of Saharan sand in the air at the same time. I had to wash the car from that orange shit twice already this week. It hurts the hell out of my eyes too.
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Here is your weekend-doom:
There is something inside the big picture, i would like to clearify.

Any new virus seeks to infect as many new hosts as possible. This infection number is dominated by two main factors:
The rate of infection during the illness and the selective pressure by the response from human society. Let's examine the various scenarios.

Scenario A: The rate of infection is more or less steady during the illness.
Then
the longer the infected person lives, the more new potential hosts are reached,
the spread of a dangerous virus will be hampered by the social response.

This results into a selective pressure which favours new virus mutations which are less dangerous/lethal. This is what is mostly observed in new viruses: The mutation into harmlessness.

Scenaio Br: The rate of infection strongly varies during the infection

B1: Stronger infection during the end of the illness and high lethality. A good example is Ebola, which is very lethal and spreads mostly near the death of the victims. It kills the host too fast and evocs a strong social response (quarantine) . Therefore Ebola will never be a global threat.

B2: A strong infectivity at the very beginning of the sickness. The current example is Covid. The first few days are most infectious, before the virus moves into the body. For the spread of the virus it does not matter whether the host will die shortly after these highly infectious days or lives to old age. There is a natural selective pressure for increased viral multiplication during these first few days, which will favour mutations with a higher reproduction rate. Therefore more mutations will spring up and spread, which may have multiple pathways for cell-entry. In future the ACE2-pathway might not be as much in the focus as it is for now.

This natural selective pressure will produce new immuno-evasive mutants with a much higher viral load and therefore will have a resulting higher lethality.
A good example is the P1-mutation: The average CT-threshold in PCR-tests is 1.91 times lower for the P1. This translates into a ~4 times higher viral load. Not to talk about the upcoming California-strain....

This virus will mutate further into a monster.

So, you better buckle up, it is going to be messy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104773


This is a point that I am questioning, and I am not a virologist, but I understand that the virus wants to find as many hosts that it can to infect, and it will thrive as long as it has susceptible hosts.

Now, say Covid virus finds a host that has been vaccinated and it invades and is attacked, lets say by the MRNA produced spike protein and it is fighting the Covid virus. This would theoretically make the Covid virus stronger and stronger to fight the vaccine. That host transmits that stronger fighting Covid virus into the next vaccinated person. That stronger Covid virus becomes a monster as this process continues throughout the vaccinated population until you have Covid killer virus on steroids. Could my theoretical model happen?
 Quoting: La Listener


This is scary. That theory should be explored by the likes of Professor Dolores Cahill, Dr. Kevin McCairn, etc.
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A very interesting idea that particle pollution (including sand) could help the spread.

Here in Malta, we have had record cases in the last week, and a lot of Saharan sand in the air at the same time. I had to wash the car from that orange shit twice already this week. It hurts the hell out of my eyes too.
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Dear, you might want to go to a drive through car wash. There's more than just virus on that orange shit. I wouldn't be playing in it.
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From my perspective, Florida is absorbing the spill over exposure from Brazil. We are not getting the full picture of how bad Brazil has been hit.
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Just a Thought here...

China and Other Countries have Bytched about Fomites

On Packaging shipped FROM overseas....
Foods, Beef from Brazil, Fish from other countries


Wondering how contaminated

All Those Kilos of Cocaine

From Brazil are ??!!??

~Hnry~


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Here is your weekend-doom:
There is something inside the big picture, i would like to clearify.

Any new virus seeks to infect as many new hosts as possible. This infection number is dominated by two main factors:
The rate of infection during the illness and the selective pressure by the response from human society. Let's examine the various scenarios.

Scenario A: The rate of infection is more or less steady during the illness.
Then
the longer the infected person lives, the more new potential hosts are reached,
the spread of a dangerous virus will be hampered by the social response.

This results into a selective pressure which favours new virus mutations which are less dangerous/lethal. This is what is mostly observed in new viruses: The mutation into harmlessness.

Scenaio Br: The rate of infection strongly varies during the infection

B1: Stronger infection during the end of the illness and high lethality. A good example is Ebola, which is very lethal and spreads mostly near the death of the victims. It kills the host too fast and evocs a strong social response (quarantine) . Therefore Ebola will never be a global threat.

B2: A strong infectivity at the very beginning of the sickness. The current example is Covid. The first few days are most infectious, before the virus moves into the body. For the spread of the virus it does not matter whether the host will die shortly after these highly infectious days or lives to old age. There is a natural selective pressure for increased viral multiplication during these first few days, which will favour mutations with a higher reproduction rate. Therefore more mutations will spring up and spread, which may have multiple pathways for cell-entry. In future the ACE2-pathway might not be as much in the focus as it is for now.

This natural selective pressure will produce new immuno-evasive mutants with a much higher viral load and therefore will have a resulting higher lethality.
A good example is the P1-mutation: The average CT-threshold in PCR-tests is 1.91 times lower for the P1. This translates into a ~4 times higher viral load. Not to talk about the upcoming California-strain....

This virus will mutate further into a monster.

So, you better buckle up, it is going to be messy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104773


This is a point that I am questioning, and I am not a virologist, but I understand that the virus wants to find as many hosts that it can to infect, and it will thrive as long as it has susceptible hosts.

Now, say Covid virus finds a host that has been vaccinated and it invades and is attacked, lets say by the MRNA produced spike protein and it is fighting the Covid virus. This would theoretically make the Covid virus stronger and stronger to fight the vaccine. That host transmits that stronger fighting Covid virus into the next vaccinated person. That stronger Covid virus becomes a monster as this process continues throughout the vaccinated population until you have Covid killer virus on steroids. Could my theoretical model happen?
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Yes, basically this is P1.
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Here's an even better idea...

SHUT DOWN ALL AIR TRAFFIC!!!
 Quoting: dyin


STOP

THINKING

NOW

"Not allowed under new Gubmint mandates"


Ignoring my last questions?

Still?
The last PM, silly....


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“But if you’re asymptomatic and you don’t get yourself tested for Covid 19; how are you ever going to know how deathly sick and critically ill you aren’t ?“
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The majority (80-90%) of people who are asymptomatic at the time of testing, develop symptoms.
But thanks for letting us know that you selfishly only care about themselves!
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A very interesting idea that particle pollution (including sand) could help the spread.

Here in Malta, we have had record cases in the last week, and a lot of Saharan sand in the air at the same time. I had to wash the car from that orange shit twice already this week. It hurts the hell out of my eyes too.
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Downwind pollution from America

[ Yeah I know it is across an Ocean ]

NANO Particles float FOREVER <<


yOU ARE GETTING RADIATION//fLUORIDES//cHEMICAL pOISONS
FROM nERVE GAS dUMPED INTO THE aTLANTIC Decades AGO.....
Plus some Corexit mixed in


None of it is healthy\\The Entire Atmosphere is Now Toxic Soup

" Have a Nice Day "

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" THIS Is a NEW Holocaust "


Special Thank You for Finding and Posting this Leaver !?!//H


Don't know source reliability, but let's see George explain this away.

A front-page article appeared in the FranceSoir newspaper about findings on the Nakim website regarding what some experts are calling

"the high mortality caused by the vaccine."


The paper interviews Aix-Marseille University Faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases Unit's Dr. Hervé Seligmann and engineer Haim Yativ about their research and data analysis.

They claim that Pfizer's shot


causes "mortality hundreds of times greater in young people compared to mortality from coronavirus without the vaccine"


"and dozens of times more in the elderly, when the documented mortality from coronavirus is in the vicinity of the vaccine dose, thus

adding greater mortality from heart attack, stroke, etc."


Their findings are:

There is a mismatch between the data published by the authorities and the reality on the ground.


They have three sources of information, besides the emails and adverse event reports they receive through the Internet. These three sources are Israeli news site Ynet, the Israeli Health Ministry database, and the U.S. federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database.

In January 2021, there were 3,000 records of vaccine adverse events, including 2,900 for mRNA vaccines.
Compared to other years, mortality is 40 times higher.


On February 11, a Ynet article presented data related to vaccination. The authors of the Nakim article claim to have debunked this analysis based on data published by Ynet itself:

"We took the data by looking at mortality during the vaccination period, which spans 5 weeks. By analyzing these data,
we arrived at startling figures that attribute significant mortality to the vaccine."


The authors say "vaccinations have caused more deaths than the coronavirus would have caused during the same period."

Haim Yativ and Dr. Seligmann declare that for them,

"this is a new Holocaust"


in face of Israeli authority pressure to vaccinate citizens.


[link to www.francesoir.fr (secure)]
"Our reanalyses of these data explain why during the massive vaccination project initiated mid-December 2020 during a confinement,

daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases failed to decrease as they do during confinements


and, more importantly, why numbers of serious, critical, and death cases increased during that period that covered at least one month. From mid-December to mid-February (two months), 2,337 among all Israeli 5,351 official COVID-deaths occurred.

Our analyses indicate orders of magnitude increases in deaths rates during the 5-week long vaccination process


as compared to the unvaccinated and those after completing the vaccination process. Presumably, asymptomatic cases before vaccination, and those infected shortly after the 1st dose, tend to develop graver symptoms than those unvaccinated.


[link to www.nakim.org]

Less than 50%. Lengthy.
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Well Done Leaver
Thank You Sir

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Interesting find here, was checking the dates of Plagues

About EVERY 100 years,

See Here:


Apparently Goo*le does not let it's links work

When posted, I find that strange

Just do a search for Plagues, or Plague of the 1300's

or 1400's

Etc, Etc, Etc


And now in the 2020's

~Hnry~


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Link doesn’t work for me Hnry
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Here is your weekend-doom:
There is something inside the big picture, i would like to clearify.

Any new virus seeks to infect as many new hosts as possible. This infection number is dominated by two main factors:
The rate of infection during the illness and the selective pressure by the response from human society. Let's examine the various scenarios.

Scenario A: The rate of infection is more or less steady during the illness.
Then
the longer the infected person lives, the more new potential hosts are reached,
the spread of a dangerous virus will be hampered by the social response.

This results into a selective pressure which favours new virus mutations which are less dangerous/lethal. This is what is mostly observed in new viruses: The mutation into harmlessness.

Scenaio Br: The rate of infection strongly varies during the infection

B1: Stronger infection during the end of the illness and high lethality. A good example is Ebola, which is very lethal and spreads mostly near the death of the victims. It kills the host too fast and evocs a strong social response (quarantine) . Therefore Ebola will never be a global threat.

B2: A strong infectivity at the very beginning of the sickness. The current example is Covid. The first few days are most infectious, before the virus moves into the body. For the spread of the virus it does not matter whether the host will die shortly after these highly infectious days or lives to old age. There is a natural selective pressure for increased viral multiplication during these first few days, which will favour mutations with a higher reproduction rate. Therefore more mutations will spring up and spread, which may have multiple pathways for cell-entry. In future the ACE2-pathway might not be as much in the focus as it is for now.

This natural selective pressure will produce new immuno-evasive mutants with a much higher viral load and therefore will have a resulting higher lethality.
A good example is the P1-mutation: The average CT-threshold in PCR-tests is 1.91 times lower for the P1. This translates into a ~4 times higher viral load. Not to talk about the upcoming California-strain....

This virus will mutate further into a monster.

So, you better buckle up, it is going to be messy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104773


This is a point that I am questioning, and I am not a virologist, but I understand that the virus wants to find as many hosts that it can to infect, and it will thrive as long as it has susceptible hosts.

Now, say Covid virus finds a host that has been vaccinated and it invades and is attacked, lets say by the MRNA produced spike protein and it is fighting the Covid virus. This would theoretically make the Covid virus stronger and stronger to fight the vaccine. That host transmits that stronger fighting Covid virus into the next vaccinated person. That stronger Covid virus becomes a monster as this process continues throughout the vaccinated population until you have Covid killer virus on steroids. Could my theoretical model happen?
 Quoting: La Listener


First to clearify something:
The spikes are not attacking the virus. The spikes are part of the external structure of a complete virus which uses the spikes as keys to enter your cells.
The vacc's mRNA produces only the spikes in your cells, not the complete virus (at least this is what THEY are telling us). These solo-spikes are then tricking your immune-system to think that the body is infected by complete viruses and is producing antibodies which can attach to the spikes. When you get infected, then these antibodies will attach to the spikes of the complete viruses and in this way the virus can not anymore use the spikes as keys to enter the cell.

To your question:
The vaccination falls under the category of selective pressure by the response from human society.
As the vaccinations have no 100% kill-rate for all existing virus-mutations, the more resistant mutations will predominantly survive. The vaccination acts therefore as a darwinian selection process which promotes immuno-resistant mutations.

This has been simulated in a recent study, where they applied to a pool of Covid-viruses the
antibody-serum of naturally infected people. They diluted the serum to make sure that only 60-70 % of the viruses are neutralized and they kept the rest alive. Then they let the rest multiply and later again added the serum. After ~8 weeks and ~40 times repeating the process, they were able to produce antibody-resistant viruses, which became the dominant virus-version within the pool. This study was published some 4 weeks ago and was discussed on the main 12000+ page thread.

So the answer is: YES

For example, look at the MRSA-bacteria which are rampant now: These resistant bacteria are a response of Nature to the use of antibiotics, which is again a selective pressure by the response from human society.
Indirectly they are bred by humans.
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Vaccines effective against p1. But no detail yet on how effective.


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A study led by AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford...

as a quick response to this:

Levels of SARS-CoV-2 Lineage P.1 Neutralization by Antibodies Elicited after Natural Infection and Vaccination

[link to papers.ssrn.com (secure)]


I seriously question this "news".
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So have there been any information released on how symptoms may differ in these different strains or anything?

I can't seem to find anything concrete. Seems they "may" spread easier and "could possibly" be more deadly.... But that's all I can find. No details as to how.

Are incubation times longer? More asymptomatic? Less coughing more headaches??

Can't find shit about them!
 Quoting: dyin


I know about the details for the UK variant, not sure about the others. It's said that the change in the spike protein in UK variant makes it able to bind more tightly to human cells. So the virus lingers for longer in people with the UK variant and people have tend to have higher viral loads, both which increase the likelihood of passing the virus on to someone else.


UK variant has been proven to be more deadly too. There are theories as to why that is.

Researchers think it could be the same set of mutations that has made it more infectious — although all stress more study is needed.

One mutation in particular increases the virus' ability to latch on more strongly to human cells and NERVTAG head Peter Horby, an emerging infectious disease professor at Oxford University, said evidence suggests this means it could make it easier to become infected.

"If it's then able to spread between cells much quicker within the lungs, that may increase the rate of disease and the rate of inflammation, which may then progress quicker than your body can respond to, so it could explain both characteristics of the virus," he said.

Dr Bjorn Meyer, virologist at France's Institut Pasteur, told AFP that the issue could be viral load.


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Could you explain to me Henry, in layman terms. Why you are copying and pasting the same messages on 4 different threads

Why do you copy and paste a post within the same thread, only to say he is right. Along with 10 stupid images that have no correlation or no meaning.

Must you make your post the longest post on the thread so everyone is forced to read your same responses for the past 6 months

You do not have to repeat your same message 5 times a day, on four different Covid threads

Just does not make sense to me.

Pick one thread, post your individual opinion, make it understandable and quit repeating the same opinions every day.
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I really get the point over the pictures - not needed.

I think a lot of us should edit posts when quoting to stop pages of text.

Worth noting Hnry
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Hnry, please be sparing with the emojis/images. At most one per post?

Cheers bud.

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verydamned

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Israel opens restaurants and bars to customers vaccinated against Covid-19

The country launched its green pass programme last month, allowing controlled numbers of people with proof of full vaccination -- or those who had recovered from Covid-19 -- to enter gyms, pools and other facilities.



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New Zealand's lockdown seemingly has worked?











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Between all the covid threads

Has it ever been discussed, when all viruses mutate millions or Billions of times (influenza & all viral pneumonia’s). These viruses will have errors within the genome. Preventing them becoming more deadly or specifically an ELE.

Never in history has a virus mutated to become more deadly to an extent that caused an ELE. We are still here. Overall picture , the fact appears human Immunity adapted and overcame/ with combination of to many errors after mutations.

Do you think labs across the world ( including China) will try and understand why viral mutations cause errors in the genome?
Creating a super virus ( viral pneumonia ) that learns how to fix errors with mutations.

And obviously one of these days. Oops it escaped the lab.

Just to much focus on understanding Covid for this not to happen. Only seems inevitable. And a matter of time.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
This from Idaho. And no they're not celebrating the end of a mask mandate, Idaho never had a mask mandate. They just like to burn masks...

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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Between all the covid threads

Has it ever been discussed, when all viruses mutate millions or Billions of times (influenza & all viral pneumonia’s). These viruses will have errors within the genome. Preventing them becoming more deadly or specifically an ELE.

Never in history has a virus mutated to become more deadly to an extent that caused an ELE. We are still here. Overall picture , the fact appears human Immunity adapted and overcame/ with combination of to many errors after mutations.

Do you think labs across the world ( including China) will try and understand why viral mutations cause errors in the genome?
Creating a super virus ( viral pneumonia ) that learns how to fix errors with mutations.

And obviously one of these days. Oops it escaped the lab.

Just to much focus on understanding Covid for this not to happen. Only seems inevitable. And a matter of time.
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They don’t mutate to become a super virus as that would kill its host and the virus would die out! It needs us alive.

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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Has it ever been discussed, when all viruses mutate millions or Billions of times (influenza & all viral pneumonia’s). These viruses will have errors within the genome. Preventing them becoming more deadly or specifically an ELE.

Never in history has a virus mutated to become more deadly to an extent that caused an ELE. We are still here. Overall picture , the fact appears human Immunity adapted and overcame/ with combination of to many errors after mutations.
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Reality is that the P1 is more deadly and it spreads more faster: Brazil

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Brazil will come to the US...

We are not talking about an ELE, but about a threat to society.
If only a few % of society dies because of this, then you have a breakdown of society: Supply-chains, law and order, sanitation etc... will go down the drain. Quickly .
My guess for the US is, that you still have this summer to relocate, prep etc.
Here in Europe we will have 2 years more.
After that you will not recognize society, that is a given.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Has it ever been discussed, when all viruses mutate millions or Billions of times (influenza & all viral pneumonia’s). These viruses will have errors within the genome. Preventing them becoming more deadly or specifically an ELE.

Never in history has a virus mutated to become more deadly to an extent that caused an ELE. We are still here. Overall picture , the fact appears human Immunity adapted and overcame/ with combination of to many errors after mutations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78258494


Reality is that the P1 is more deadly and it spreads more faster: Brazil

https://imgur.com/vZKBas8


[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Brazil will come to the US...

We are not talking about an ELE, but about a threat to society.
If only a few % of society dies because of this, then you have a breakdown of society: Supply-chains, law and order, sanitation etc... will go down the drain. Quickly .
My guess for the US is, that you still have this summer to relocate, prep etc.
Here in Europe we will have 2 years more.
After that you will not recognize society, that is a given.
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DR is back!

But I agree - it will get very bad again!

Last Edited by ParamedicUK on 03/07/2021 03:31 PM
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