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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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While their case averages look decent… they don’t use the last 3 or 4 days in their averages.

And it took 30 days to get this low. Give it time for the shots to wear off.

Everyone has their timers on different schedules.
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Vaccine passport plans in England to be scrapped!

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Vaccine passport plans in England to be scrapped!


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It’s a bigger waste of money than contact tracing wax.
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With the amount of u-turns Boris has done, I don't see this holding up. I suspect he's passing the buck to the businesses. Time will tell.

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Honestly, SF has been one of the most successful metropolitan areas at managing this pandemic. Even when the overall rates were high in the Bay Area, SF proper did very well by comparison. I do hope that this is accurate, and that it continues.

They are not taking into account the colleges and universities, though.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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On September 11th 2001, I was working construction in Boston. Once the gravity of what had happened set in, I learned from the news that they were looking for volunteers with heavy equipment experience to assist with recovery operations.

As this was my expertise at the time, I rounded up a group of guys with similar experience and talked my boss into offering up some equipment to take down to ground zero.

I had everything lined up, including a low boy trailer with a CAT 980 that my boss has allowed me to requisition and take 4 hours away down to NYC... I was 21 years old at the time. His only request was to put a big sign with the company name on the side of the loader.

I made contact with some people who were in NYC, everything was lined up and we had clearance from emergency ops in the city so we would be allowed in to assist at the pile.

At the last minute, the other guys pulled out... and without them I didn't have the balls to go down there on my own, it would have just been me and the truck driver who was still on board to get the CAT down there.

This may have been a timeline split between this one and one with a very different outcome for R. Wordsworth. I wouldn't hesitate now, but back then I was just a fucking kid.

I was so fucking pissed at the time, both at myself for pussying out and for my buddies for doing the same.

Knowing now what happened to those early first responders at the pile, I may have suffered horrible long term consequences. I still wish I had gone, I think I could have made a difference.

I've been to the furthest ends of the multiverse, but 9/11/01 in this timeline seems like further away than any of them.

I wish I had gone.
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On September 11th 2001, I was working construction in Boston. Once the gravity of what had happened set in, I learned from the news that they were looking for volunteers with heavy equipment experience to assist with recovery operations.

As this was my expertise at the time, I rounded up a group of guys with similar experience and talked my boss into offering up some equipment to take down to ground zero.

I had everything lined up, including a low boy trailer with a CAT 980 that my boss has allowed me to requisition and take 4 hours away down to NYC... I was 21 years old at the time. His only request was to put a big sign with the company name on the side of the loader.

I made contact with some people who were in NYC, everything was lined up and we had clearance from emergency ops in the city so we would be allowed in to assist at the pile.

At the last minute, the other guys pulled out... and without them I didn't have the balls to go down there on my own, it would have just been me and the truck driver who was still on board to get the CAT down there.

This may have been a timeline split between this one and one with a very different outcome for R. Wordsworth. I wouldn't hesitate now, but back then I was just a fucking kid.

I was so fucking pissed at the time, both at myself for pussying out and for my buddies for doing the same.

Knowing now what happened to those early first responders at the pile, I may have suffered horrible long term consequences. I still wish I had gone, I think I could have made a difference.

I've been to the furthest ends of the multiverse, but 9/11/01 in this timeline seems like further away than any of them.

I wish I had gone.

 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Don't kick yourself too hard, Wordsie. We've all got shoulda, coulda, woulda's. You tried hard, but you can't control other people.

We ALL felt helpless that day and the many days after. hugs
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Don't kick yourself too hard, Wordsie. We've all got shoulda, coulda, woulda's. You tried hard, but you can't control other people.

We ALL felt helpless that day and the many days after. hugs
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I have a kid working for me who's 20, and just has no idea how much the world changed that day.

He's a smart kid, but I just can't even explain it no matter how hard I try.
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Don't kick yourself too hard, Wordsie. We've all got shoulda, coulda, woulda's. You tried hard, but you can't control other people.

We ALL felt helpless that day and the many days after. hugs
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I have a kid working for me who's 20, and just has no idea how much the world changed that day.

He's a smart kid, but I just can't even explain it no matter how hard I try.
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I imagine you're right about that. My dad used to get frustrated with us sometimes when he and mom would talk about life as a kid during WW11 and we just didn't quite get it.

I think unless you actually live through something, you can't fully understand. I mean, your head knows the details, but your heart doesn't understand the minutiae. Know what I mean?
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I imagine you're right about that. My dad used to get frustrated with us sometimes when he and mom would talk about life as a kid during WW11 and we just didn't quite get it.

I think unless you actually live through something, you can't fully understand. I mean, your head knows the details, but your heart doesn't understand the minutiae. Know what I mean?
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Yeah, I think I know. I wish I didn't.

I don't have any kids, but my best friend had a kid who just turned one year old.'
What do I tell him of life before COVID??? When he's old enough to understand????
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I imagine you're right about that. My dad used to get frustrated with us sometimes when he and mom would talk about life as a kid during WW11 and we just didn't quite get it.

I think unless you actually live through something, you can't fully understand. I mean, your head knows the details, but your heart doesn't understand the minutiae. Know what I mean?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Yeah, I think I know. I wish I didn't.

I don't have any kids, but my best friend had a kid who just turned one year old.

What do I tell him of life before COVID???
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That's the hard part. He won't believe you, most likely. Not totally anyway. My 2 oldest were old enough to remember SOME of what life was like overseas during Desert Shield/Desert Storm, but nowhere near all of it. They were older when 9-11 happened and they do remember most of that.

I think about what my grands will remember from this and how they'll remember it. I just don't know. My grandson is starting to act out, doing really dumb stuff a 6 year old knows not to do. I think they're stressing in ways we didn't think of. This is all new territory for all of us.

Too answer your question directly, tell him the truth as age allows. Tell him your best memories. Those are the ones he'll want to hear most. I remember so many of mom and dad's stories just in high school. We'd have gotten arrested for some of it in the '70's! I don't know what they do these days.
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Don't kick yourself too hard, Wordsie. We've all got shoulda, coulda, woulda's. You tried hard, but you can't control other people.

We ALL felt helpless that day and the many days after. hugs
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I have a kid working for me who's 20, and just has no idea how much the world changed that day.

He's a smart kid, but I just can't even explain it no matter how hard I try.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


I imagine you're right about that. My dad used to get frustrated with us sometimes when he and mom would talk about life as a kid during WW11 and we just didn't quite get it.

I think unless you actually live through something, you can't fully understand. I mean, your head knows the details, but your heart doesn't understand the minutiae. Know what I mean?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


My mom tried to explain to me about living in London through the Blitz during WW2. She was in the London fire brigade as a telephonist, the equivalent of todays USA 911 system. It was the worst of times, but for her it was a time of camaraderie (when the sirens wailed during NAZI bombing, she would run into the London underground train system). Indeed, she has called it the best of times for her as she was in her twenties and met my father. He was a Royal Air Force mechanic, who saw plenty of action as many Royal Air Force fighter pilots and crew died (57,205 bomber crews were killed (a 46 percent death rate)). During and after 1943, he was flying planes he had repaired to the Royal Air Force bases throughout the UK and flying damaged planes from them.



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When people cant handle the truth.

I have ti admit, i never thought the propaganda had worked so well. ..

No wonder people wont speak out with, when the data wa staken from gov as well.



And from the PHE themselfs. Data is correct just the messaging is wrong. Lol lol lol



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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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bump for coffee
Working on it
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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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So I guess a disclaimer… I disagree with the vaccinate thing.

It’s endemic. So unless folks are told how to proper PPE and decon…plus actually doing it…

It’s just ring around the rosies, pocket full of posies. Over and over. Until it’s gapped enough to grind out.

But with the deer and wild animal issue… it might not reach that point.

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Does anyone have a quick link to the cats and ferrets dying in the MRNA animal studies.
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[link to www.jstage.jst.go.jp (secure)]
Antibody-dependent enhancement occurs upon re-infection with the identical serotype virus in feline infectious peritonitis virus infection
See the survival graphs on p4 of the .pdf. All the vaccinated cats survived the vaccine but died when infected.

[link to journals.plos.org (secure)]
Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus


Good summary here:

[link to www.nature.com (secure)]
See references 18-24 and especially 25,26 [more cat study]

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Look at all the sheep that are trying to discredit it. The pure hope


The data is from PHE and is per 100k so all the comments have no no idea lol.

The same data is used for the deaths, but no omes arguing that pount lol





Emm it already is





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I did the calculation for "anyvax" against "unvax" - and the result looks even worse!!

The infection rates for "anyvax" exceed the "unvax" for all but the 30-39yo age group!

ps - I used the population age pyramid of the UK and the 1-dose and 2-dose proportions in the plots of the PHE paper.
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Alpha on the rise


I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Lewis County Health System to “pause” maternity services due to staff unwilling to vaccinate.. [link to www.nny360.com (secure)]
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Meanwhile, on the ground in the NHS as the UK heads to autumn.

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The Chinese have arrived in Sweden for ice hockey.

They appear to be pretty comfortable that the COVID situation is under control



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Intresting numbers on the Uk PHE data


I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Usa wave over?


I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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I've got doubts about that. This is just anecdotal observations, but with all the football games, fall festivals, and soon the World Series, I don't think so. There are schools that have had to go virtual already and everyone I've seen seems to think it's all over. I'd say wait a couple of more weeks and see.
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Don't kick yourself too hard, Wordsie. We've all got shoulda, coulda, woulda's. You tried hard, but you can't control other people.

We ALL felt helpless that day and the many days after. hugs
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I have a kid working for me who's 20, and just has no idea how much the world changed that day.

He's a smart kid, but I just can't even explain it no matter how hard I try.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


I imagine you're right about that. My dad used to get frustrated with us sometimes when he and mom would talk about life as a kid during WW11 and we just didn't quite get it.

I think unless you actually live through something, you can't fully understand. I mean, your head knows the details, but your heart doesn't understand the minutiae. Know what I mean?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


My mom tried to explain to me about living in London through the Blitz during WW2. She was in the London fire brigade as a telephonist, the equivalent of todays USA 911 system. It was the worst of times, but for her it was a time of camaraderie (when the sirens wailed during NAZI bombing, she would run into the London underground train system). Indeed, she has called it the best of times for her as she was in her twenties and met my father. He was a Royal Air Force mechanic, who saw plenty of action as many Royal Air Force fighter pilots and crew died (57,205 bomber crews were killed (a 46 percent death rate)). During and after 1943, he was flying planes he had repaired to the Royal Air Force bases throughout the UK and flying damaged planes from them.


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“We are quick to forget that just being alive is an extraordinary piece of good luck, a remote event, a chance occurrence of monstrous proportions.”

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The US issue is that we have 100s of epicenters. And yes, it’s plateaued is some places, gone down in a few, but oh fuck… the north is just getting started.





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