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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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Hi all

I'm still reading along. I am with my dying mother, which is a truly excruciating thing to experience. Thankfully, I don't think she will linger long in this state. At this point, her passing will be a relief, because she is suffering despite a fentanyl patch and oral morphine. There is no quality of life left at all, though it is great that she's getting a chance to have some final time with her loved ones.

Looks like the fall/winter waves are about to start hitting in earnest. I see a real split in the way people are behaving here .... some are going about life as if everything is basically ok, and some are not.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Thank you, Texan --- that melted my heart, in a good way. Yes, this is pure hell. Thankfully, my mom lost her "proper lady" modesty long ago, so at least she isn't experiencing shame on top of all the pain. She took care of my grandma when she was dying, here in this same house.

In my conversation with my mom last week, I told her that when she was ready, it was ok for her to go. We had a good, long, emotional talk, where we said how much we loved each other, and how lucky we were to have had one another for such a long time.

I told her again today that it was okay for her to go-- that I would take care of everything here, and that I'd be okay, and that she no longer needed to worry about all these earthly things. I told her I would miss her terribly, but that I knew she would always be with me, just like her mother (who was my second parent) has always been with both of us. A couple of days ago, she said "grandma is waiting for me."

Nothing can really prepare a person for this process. I've tried to be prepared, but the emotions are unlike anything I've ever felt.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

Lenonard Cohen
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Thank you, CG --- I love you guys, too!!
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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Thank you, Texan --- that melted my heart, in a good way. Yes, this is pure hell. Thankfully, my mom lost her "proper lady" modesty long ago, so at least she isn't experiencing shame on top of all the pain. She took care of my grandma when she was dying, here in this same house.

In my conversation with my mom last week, I told her that when she was ready, it was ok for her to go. We had a good, long, emotional talk, where we said how much we loved each other, and how lucky we were to have had one another for such a long time.

I told her again today that it was okay for her to go-- that I would take care of everything here, and that I'd be okay, and that she no longer needed to worry about all these earthly things. I told her I would miss her terribly, but that I knew she would always be with me, just like her mother (who was my second parent) has always been with both of us. A couple of days ago, she said "grandma is waiting for me."

Nothing can really prepare a person for this process. I've tried to be prepared, but the emotions are unlike anything I've ever felt.
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Oh I'm SO glad you are still able to talk to each other! Mom's dementia was so bad the last 2 months, it was hard to visit her.

Sometimes, I still feel bad about living so far away for so long, but it was for the best in the long run. I did get a good year and a half with her that I wouldn't have had otherwise. I would stay with her at the house when my brother and sil traveled. She did better when I was there all the time. I wish I could've figured something workable out, but we were looking after my mil at the same time. I hope she understood. I think she did.
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And thanks to everyone else keeping this thread going. Please keep it up. :)
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Thanks SN. Hope you're keeping well. I'll get some energy back together soon and get back on it.
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I'm doing well, thank you so much for asking. If you need to take a break, then please do so. Your health and well being are way more important than GLP, although we would miss you!

Get some rest tonight. :)
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20 months straight and 20 months later. During time, antagonizing everyone to constantly check in and give updates.

Today, Majority of the world views Covid as the Flu. Vaccinations will continue "working", setting up platforms for the future Beast System.

Until it is time to release a more deadly variant. Then it is time for MOTB and "The Great Tribulation" begins.

At that moment, there will be a lot more to be concerned about.

Fear mongering kept everyone buried in the Covid Rabbit Hole. Objective completed - Keep Focus away from what is really happening.

Grossly Over Exaggerated Deception is the phrase of the year.
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So now we find the vaccine interferes with natural immunity of N antibodies which are not found and effectively prevented from working against covid infection leaving the vaccinated vulnerable to covid variants exploiting spike modifications…focused on the vaccinated…that can’t be good?
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I'm struggling to get the motivation to post much. It feels like a merry-go-round surrounded by people with their heads deep in the sand.

One thing i've been thinking is that the excess deaths figure in the UK is potentially a bigger issue than it appears at first.

Bearing in mind since 2020, 140,000 of the most vulnerable have been taken out by Covid, you would then expect excess deaths to be lower as there is less of the low hanging fruit.

Instead we have those missing 140,000 and then some on top.

Just spitballing but it makes me uneasy.

How is everyone else doing?

Life appears to be trundling along here. Nobody cares any more..
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Well, you know I am watching the ONS all-cause mortality, trying to get the 'mystery deaths'.

If mystery deaths go massively up for younger age-groups over the next few weeks/months I think we will be able to spot it.

NB: Last update caused ALL age-groups to be above the 2021 mean --first time this year that has happened-- And the 1-14 age-group was over 1.5xSD above the 2021 mean, having its highest value yet for the year.


As regards motivation, I was wondering if we should think about a move to Clever's thread? Is that blasphemy? No offence intended to anyone..mostly because it is moderated...
Just thinking aloud. Re-unite the band, so to speak?

PS - New HSA figures out. Looks like case rates (per 100k) are more than double in the Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated for 40-49. If I add 1-dosed people to that, it will be worse still.
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She is mean and thinks she knows it all.
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I'm struggling to get the motivation to post much. It feels like a merry-go-round surrounded by people with their heads deep in the sand.

One thing i've been thinking is that the excess deaths figure in the UK is potentially a bigger issue than it appears at first.

Bearing in mind since 2020, 140,000 of the most vulnerable have been taken out by Covid, you would then expect excess deaths to be lower as there is less of the low hanging fruit.

Instead we have those missing 140,000 and then some on top.

Just spitballing but it makes me uneasy.

How is everyone else doing?

Life appears to be trundling along here. Nobody cares any more..
 Quoting: lightning1977

Well, you know I am watching the ONS all-cause mortality, trying to get the 'mystery deaths'.

If mystery deaths go massively up for younger age-groups over the next few weeks/months I think we will be able to spot it.

NB: Last update caused ALL age-groups to be above the 2021 mean --first time this year that has happened-- And the 1-14 age-group was over 1.5xSD above the 2021 mean, having its highest value yet for the year.


As regards motivation, I was wondering if we should think about a move to Clever's thread? Is that blasphemy? No offence intended to anyone..mostly because it is moderated...
Just thinking aloud. Re-unite the band, so to speak?

PS - New HSA figures out. Looks like case rates (per 100k) are more than double in the Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated for 40-49. If I add 1-dosed people to that, it will be worse still.
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She is mean and thinks she knows it all.
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Rules to live by avoid the vax and the other thread.
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New Covid variant, C.1.2, may be more infectious, evade vaccine protection: Study

The new variant has more mutations than other variants of concern (VOCs) or variants of interest (VOIs) detected worldwide so far, the researchers said
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FACT…covid vaccines fade, the vaccine does not provide forever protection (fact), at some point (not yet studied) the vaccinated are no longer considered vaccine protected thus are now defined as unvaccinated…not everyone will take a booster that is unsustainable…so science must determine when that is…to be legally fair to those being fired for not taking the vaccine…

I’d say if you cannot prove a vaccine within 10 months you must be terminated under vaccine mandates…if you put the science first…otherwise this whole mandate shit is just hypocrisy!
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Vaccine mandates are unacceptable and crimes against humanity!
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New Covid variant, C.1.2, may be more infectious, evade vaccine protection: Study

The new variant has more mutations than other variants of concern (VOCs) or variants of interest (VOIs) detected worldwide so far, the researchers said
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HMMM THAT'S A ROMAN #. goina see crazy names now hey.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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SARS-CoV-2 infection causes immunodeficiency in recovered patients by downregulating CD19 expression in B cells via enhancing B-cell metabolism

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Immunodeficiency disorders impair the immune system’s ability to defend the body against foreign or abnormal cells that invade or attack it (such as bacteria, viruses, fungi, and cancer cells). As a result, unusual bacterial, viral, or fungal infections or lymphomas or other cancers may develop.

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Here is an animated GIf UK case rates (per 100k of the relevant population) amongst the vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

I replicated it as best I could from the UK population pyramid, vax rates, and cases reported.

Something is going wrong..
[link to ibb.co (secure)]


The inset plot is from the HSA official pdf. They dont use the same scale each week, but I did - to make it clearer for the trend.

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Here is an animated GIf UK case rates (per 100k of the relevant population) amongst the vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

I replicated it as best I could from the UK population pyramid, vax rates, and cases reported.

Something is going wrong..
[link to ibb.co (secure)]


The inset plot is from the HSA official pdf. They dont use the same scale each week, but I did - to make it clearer for the trend.
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:-) Thanks S-man!!!
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Here is another animated Gif.
It shows 'Anyvax' vs. Unvaccinated case rates (per 100k of the relevant population).

This is NOT a plot that the HSA produces, so I have inset the official "2-vax vs unvax" HSA plot for reference.

The main obvious difference is that the 'Under18' and '18-29' age groups have a higher case rate due to the inclusion of the 1vax people. Massively so for the Under18s.
Most of the UK's 1-vax people are young just now, as we worked down the age-groups.

[link to ibb.co (secure)]

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Here is another animated Gif.
It shows 'Anyvax' vs. Unvaccinated case rates (per 100k of the relevant population).

This is NOT a plot that the HSA produces, so I have inset the official "2-vax vs unvax" HSA plot for reference.

The main obvious difference is that the 'Under18' and '18-29' age groups have a higher case rate due to the inclusion of the 1vax people. Massively so for the Under18s.
Most of the UK's 1-vax people are young just now, as we worked down the age-groups.

[link to ibb.co (secure)]
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Amazing work!

This copied from another forum…..

“Even when you look at the rates per 100,000 for deaths across the entire population by vax status (30th Aug to 26th Sep) its bad:

At least one dose, deaths per 100,000
= 24.1 (12.4 + 11.7)

Unvaccinated deaths per 100,000
= 20

For the following period 13th September to 10th October for all adults this is now:

18.2 per 100,000 for at least one dose

13.2 per 100,000 unvaccinated

And look at that number for over 80s who take up most of the deaths.

255 per 100,000 for at least one dose

100 per 100,000 unvaccinated

Then we can go back to the raw numbers and I am telling you this is not good.

September is the 4th worst month of the entire pandemic here for Covid deaths. 75% of whom were double vaccinated. The same period last year saw 16 deaths. This is in a population of 1.8m.

What they say in the exec summary is that unvaccinated individuals over 50 are 4 times more likely to die. Now, aks yourself, how have they done that?

They do not include those partially vaccinated. And look at the rates per 100,000 for those placed in that category. They are simply ignored in the headline statement. It's particularly stark in the over 80s group.”
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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Thoughts S-man?
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Thoughts S-man?
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My gut feel is that something is going wrong.
It could be weakened immune systems, trained to fight an extinct spike?

From what I can see, the HSA deaths still show a lower death rate per 100k of vaxed population (EDIT: when you examine by age-group) - BUT the death rate is dropping for unvaxed and rising for vaxed.. slightly... at the 5-10% per week level.

And, remember, this is JUST covid.
We are not looking at the 'mystery deaths' (poss. vax induced) here.

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Thoughts S-man?
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My gut feel is that something is going wrong.
It could be weakened immune systems, trained to fight an extinct spike?

From what I can see, the HSA deaths still show a lower death rate per 100k of vaxed population (EDIT: when you examine by age-group) - BUT the death rate is dropping for unvaxed and rising for vaxed.. slightly... at the 5-10% per week level.

And, remember, this is JUST covid.
We are not looking at the 'mystery deaths' (poss. vax induced) here.
 Quoting: S-man


I agree that something is going wrong. It's entirely possible that the vax damages the immune system in much the same way that COVID does. The COVID numbers are hard to track, too -- there are a lot of those "mystery" deaths that may be COVID survivors, or vax induced injuries, or both.

It seems very clear that we can't vax our way out of this. It boggles my mind how people are sort-of collectively deciding that the pandemic is over, despite it actually being worse than it was at this time last year, in many regards.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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If vaccines were not made it is possible we would have been getting out of this situation because the virus just has natural immunity to deal with and maybe doesn’t have much motivation to find a way around. But now a big barrier(vaccine) was introduced and the bioweapon(virus) has motivation to grow stronger and break it down. After the virus has destroyed the wall the victors hang out in the nose of the defeated to jump into the sky to float around to enter new targets.

Simple design.
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Thoughts S-man?
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My gut feel is that something is going wrong.
It could be weakened immune systems, trained to fight an extinct spike?

From what I can see, the HSA deaths still show a lower death rate per 100k of vaxed population (EDIT: when you examine by age-group) - BUT the death rate is dropping for unvaxed and rising for vaxed.. slightly... at the 5-10% per week level.

And, remember, this is JUST covid.
We are not looking at the 'mystery deaths' (poss. vax induced) here.
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S-man

Maths was never my strong point but can you please answer this for me.

Currently in the U.K. 90% over 18s are single jabbed and 85% double jabbed.

[link to www.england.nhs.uk (secure)]

Of covid deaths 82% are jabbed at least once.

So it comes down to 90% jabbed vs 82% deaths.

Does that not pretty much prove vaccine failure on its own or am I totally mad?

UK Keep Calm Sma

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Peace not War.
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This video blew my mind. It's Dr. John Campbell, whom I have been watching since the beginning of the pandemic. He has generally been fairly pro-vax, and hasn't really questioned the offical narrative much. Recently, he's started to be more opinionated and outspoken that something doesn't seem right.

Here, he interviews a young athlete who has a documented case of vaccine-induced pericarditis (with some mycardial involvement.) He is being vocal about the need for truth about risk and benefit.

Long, but well worth the watch all the way through.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

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Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

Lenonard Cohen
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This video blew my mind. It's Dr. John Campbell, whom I have been watching since the beginning of the pandemic. He has generally been fairly pro-vax, and hasn't really questioned the offical narrative much. Recently, he's started to be more opinionated and outspoken that something doesn't seem right.

Here, he interviews a young athlete who has a documented case of vaccine-induced pericarditis (with some mycardial involvement.) He is being vocal about the need for truth about risk and benefit.

Long, but well worth the watch all the way through.

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I was always under the impression Campbell was shilling for big pharma..

Or that at some point in 2020 he got a knock at the door to tell him to toe the line.

Maybe he has now had enough? Interesting to see him finally go against the heavily propagandised MSM narrative.
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This video blew my mind. It's Dr. John Campbell, whom I have been watching since the beginning of the pandemic. He has generally been fairly pro-vax, and hasn't really questioned the offical narrative much. Recently, he's started to be more opinionated and outspoken that something doesn't seem right.

Here, he interviews a young athlete who has a documented case of vaccine-induced pericarditis (with some mycardial involvement.) He is being vocal about the need for truth about risk and benefit.

Long, but well worth the watch all the way through.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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I was always under the impression Campbell was shilling for big pharma..

Or that at some point in 2020 he got a knock at the door to tell him to toe the line.

Maybe he has now had enough? Interesting to see him finally go against the heavily propagandised MSM narrative.
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Yep he was so vax positive at the start. I couldn’t watch anymore. But he has now also spoken out in favour if ivermectin.
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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good morning,

got my call. step dad has covid. i sent him to TC for horse med. they didn't have any. goina check here and drop some for hhim. what else should he take??? he says he is already taking a multi vit. thanks

siren2
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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good morning,

got my call. step dad has covid. i sent him to TC for horse med. they didn't have any. goina check here and drop some for hhim. what else should he take??? he says he is already taking a multi vit. thanks

siren2
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Suggest:
Mega-dose vit-D like 10000IU or more.
Vit C. As much as his tuimmy can take.
HCQ seemed ok to mix with Ivm.

Nigella Sativa (seeds or oil) + honey.
NAC
Zinc
Melatonin

Hope he recovers quickly.
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S-man

Maths was never my strong point but can you please answer this for me.

Currently in the U.K. 90% over 18s are single jabbed and 85% double jabbed.

[link to www.england.nhs.uk (secure)]

Of covid deaths 82% are jabbed at least once.

So it comes down to 90% jabbed vs 82% deaths.

Does that not pretty much prove vaccine failure on its own or am I totally mad?

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EDIT corrected numbers:
I'll do my best. If I make up some numbers to examine what could happen?
Let's say the vax had zero effectiveness against death, you might naiively expect both 90% jabbed and 90% of the deaths to be jabbed.

But, you might also see this "90% vs. 90%" figure, or worse, coming about from something like the following scenario (bear with me on the numbers, I am just making a point)...

1/
If the vaccine protected from death by 50% compared to no vaccine.

2/
If Over 70's were 100% jabbed..and 1,000 Covid cases (in over70's) result in 300 deaths.
(it would have been 600 deaths without vax)..

3/
If 18-29's were 50% jabbed.. and had 1,000 Covid cases resulting in 20 unvaxxed deaths and 10 vaxxed deaths (Would have been 20 unvaxxed deaths and 20 vaxxed deaths without vaccine).

4/
All other age-groups not considered for now, just making a point..
Total deaths: 330
Total Deaths in double-jabbed: 310 (i.e. 94%).

So 94% of the deaths would be jabbed, which is actually more than the 75% fraction jabbed!


So, I think we have to consider it by age-group because the death profile is sadly so very different for the over 70s.


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