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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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as per above post:

"If our vaccines were pre-programming the immune response to focus only on the spike protein, this is what that would look like. Thus the report authors are compelled to admit that prior vaccination inhibits anti-N antibodies."


"We have very little data on the specifics of post-vaccination immune response, but a Twitter informant points me to this piece in the Journal of Infection. It’s a brief letter to the editor confirming the findings of the UK Health Security Agency that breakthrough infections in the vaccinated seem to elicit a vastly attenuated antibody response to the N protein, compared to infections in unvaccinated people."
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This could certainly help explain why the vaxxed seem to be faring more poorly than the unvaxxed in certain groups.
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URGENT: Covid vaccines will keep you from acquiring full immunity EVEN IF YOU ARE INFECTED AND RECOVER
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


You cannot destroy an immune system to the level of a chemotherapy patient and expect what is produced to be any use in the long term.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 78527812


Just dropping in for a while to see what's going on here, and I'm reminded why I left.

Vaccine recipients immune systems are not destroyed to the level of a chemotherapy patient. You fucking lie.

I really honestly hope that you die from COVID horribly, and spend the last few minutes of your life gasping for breath thinking about all of the lies you told, Uncle Doom.

This is what you deserve, and you know it.

I guess everyone has me blocked, but not you as an AC Uncle Doom so I sure do hope you see this post.
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I spent all last week driving around in a van with a kid who developed COVID symptoms over the weekend.

He tested negative via rapid test, so who knows what that really means. He was not vaccinated.

Either way, I didn't get sick.

So either he had COVID and the vaccine worked for me, or he had the common cold and my immune system fought it off.

Either way Uncle Doom is a fucking liar.

No one else in my company was infected with whatever that was (and they are all vaccinated except for this one guy who was sick), and I didn't infect my elderly parents who I was around all last weekend.
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URGENT: Covid vaccines will keep you from acquiring full immunity EVEN IF YOU ARE INFECTED AND RECOVER
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


You cannot destroy an immune system to the level of a chemotherapy patient and expect what is produced to be any use in the long term.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 78527812


Just dropping in for a while to see what's going on here, and I'm reminded why I left.

Vaccine recipients immune systems are not destroyed to the level of a chemotherapy patient. You fucking lie.

I really honestly hope that you die from COVID horribly, and spend the last few minutes of your life gasping for breath thinking about all of the lies you told, Uncle Doom.

This is what you deserve, and you know it.

I guess everyone has me blocked, but not you as an AC Uncle Doom so I sure do hope you see this post.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


I see it. I won't ever catch it. I won't ever get the spiked protein into me either. You know why?

Because my wife knows. She always has.

And you have my sympathies. Vaccinated and seeing all of this unfold? Must be scary. And that's okay - you can be scared and angry. After all, that is a human response shown by many when faced with a potentially terminal diagnosis.


Good luck to you Wordsie - I hope Parkinsons or worse doesn't get to you. I did warn you. Guess time will tell.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
I was watching another Dr. Campbell video last night, where he rips into the BBC for their blatantly false coverage on Ivermectin. His wry sense of humor might not come through to a person watching him for the first time, unless they watch a ways into the video, but all his talk of "it's very good of the BBC to do this" is full blown sarcasm.

I've always liked Campbell, and I have watched him largely for a point/counterpoint to some of the people who have been more likely to go way outside the box, to whom I also listen. I have always appreciated his more "in the box" analysis of the data, to give me a rounded picture of what is going on -- I am one of those people who reads/consumes all sides of an issue, and then tries to make up my own mind about what is correct. (You know, what we used to call "critical thinking," and was a required part of a college education?}

He's very good at explaining things so that the layman can understand scientific material, without dumbing it down.

It's very interesting that he is now finding himself a scandalous presence on social media, and facing censorship, for speaking out about the need for truth. He and Chris Martenson could probably have a really GOOD conversation at this point, which I would love to see happen.
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Choroid Plexus - Everyone here familiar with this region of the brain? Well, it is the blood-CSF barrier, and in autopsies there are significant epithelial cell damage to the entire region. This leads the good folks to start looking long and hard at the three pronged neurological pathway sarscov2 has into the brain.


1) Olfactory bulb. Quick and dirty route straight in.

2) Peyer's Patches in the gut. This one is terrifyingly sly and very, very dangerous.

3) Infecting the epithelial walls of the very blood vessels protecting the CNS and blood brain barrier. Creeping through if you will under the radar so to speak.



Neurological and long term damage will swing to look at the Choroid complex to see if it can be used as a predictive tool in living patients. Any signs of inflammation at all will be aggressively treated.

long covid is a bastard.
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I see it. I won't ever catch it. I won't ever get the spiked protein into me either. You know why?

Because my wife knows. She always has.

And you have my sympathies. Vaccinated and seeing all of this unfold? Must be scary. And that's okay - you can be scared and angry. After all, that is a human response shown by many when faced with a potentially terminal diagnosis.


Good luck to you Wordsie - I hope Parkinsons or worse doesn't get to you. I did warn you. Guess time will tell.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 78527812


OK have fun microwaving your mail UD, I have several vaccinated friends who have been working sold out games at Gillette stadium with 50,000 fans in attendance and somehow their chemo patient immune systems haven't landed them in the hospital yet from COVID or anything else.

Totally fucking weird that in Massachusetts all these chemo patients aren't dropping dead in the streets amarite???

hmm
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I spent all last week driving around in a van with a kid who developed COVID symptoms over the weekend.

He tested negative via rapid test, so who knows what that really means. He was not vaccinated.

Either way, I didn't get sick.

So either he had COVID and the vaccine worked for me, or he had the common cold and my immune system fought it off.

Either way Uncle Doom is a fucking liar.

No one else in my company was infected with whatever that was (and they are all vaccinated except for this one guy who was sick), and I didn't infect my elderly parents who I was around all last weekend.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


all fear mongering.

some people feed from fear.

they just want people to feel the emotion they are having.

we had a few participants in the past that contributed to this.

one in particular, created a movement, of posters being fearful, for almost 2 years straight.

fighting tooth and nails, to get their point across, reeling in other vulnerable posters.

then trying to mask the agenda saying "I care" and all that lovey dubby crap....

Not just UncleDoom. But he is pretty doomy, too.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
One of the things that stood out for me in the Campbell video with the vax-injured guy was that he was improving a lot with the help of supplements (particularly black seed oil). He also took Ivermectin for a while, and is taking a number of supplements now.

The list of supplements was nearly identical to what the FLCCC and the additional things that Uncle Doom has been recommending.

There are entire communities of vax-injured people who are banding together to try to find answers. Campbell links to one of those resources with his video.

I am personally supplementing with most of those things, as well as continuing to take IVM, and I'm fairly sure it is keeping the vax damage at bay (and helped reverse my early effects from it.)

I can't say I exactly regret getting the vax, because that is now allowing me to be with my mom, when she is dying and needs me most. The vax may or may not have been the catalyst for her very sudden decline, but at 89, said decline was inevitable at some point. I wouldn't have been able to see her in the hospital without proof of vax, and the caregiving agency also greatly prefers that everyone the caregivers come into contact with be vaxxed.

I posted a while ago that I was willing to risk the vax, mainly because my mom is the only one really dependng on me. I don't have kids, and my friends/ other loved ones are self sufficient. My mom, however, would have nobody at all except me should she become really ill -- which is exactly what happened. The fact that I can be here for her makes it worth having done it, come what may. This is the most important mission I have to fulfill in this life. Whatever comes after is icing on the cake, or fire in the dumpster, or some combination of those things.

I'll do all I can to repair my body from the vaxxes, and I am going to refuse booster shots, even if that means I'm not considered fully vaccinated. After the 4 week migraine and additional 4 weeks of general misery after dose 2, I'm done with those vaccines. I may have to find another career, or jump through a bunch of hoops to get an exemption at work ... but I am not getting a booster unless I see very solid science indicating that the benefits outweigh the risks. So far, I see no such science, and I see and smell a lot of BS.

Many of my outspoken liberal friends and colleagues are posting about getting their boosters, and begging everyone else to do so. If I have a decent relationship with the person, I might very respectfully try to offer a counterpoint to that narrative .... but usually I just keep my trap shut.

Another point that came up in the Campbell video with the vax injured guy was that he was immediately labeled an antivaxxer, a conspiracy theorist, etc., for having had a bad reaction to the vax. The first hospital he visited (when he, a 29 year old athlete, had a resting heart rate of 160!) didn't test him for heart conditions, and said it was a panic attack. He was eventually sent away with a referral to a psychiatrist, and the doctor literally said he thought the man was having a PSYCHOTIC EPISODE! Campbell rightly points out that this is one of the worst sins one can make in psychology/psychiatry ... diagnosing a problem as psychiatric without first ruling out the possible organic causes. Sadly, it happens all the time, with both medical doctors and mental health professionals. Non-MD mental health professionals are limited in their ability to rule out physical illnesses without crossing a line into practing outside their expertise ... but the good ones will often say something like "this really doesn't seem like a mental illness to me. Would you consider getting a second opinion and a thorough workup from a doctor who specializes in difficult-to[diagnose conditions?"

I hammer this point into my students every semester, and tell them that while we are not doctors, we are professionals who have a duty to be sure that the mental health diagnoses of our patients are correct. If they don't seem correct, we have a right to question them, and request further medical testing.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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Somehow, my crippled immune system has avoided all those pathogens from the sewage for 6 whole months.

I must be the luckiest sheep alive, baa baa baahhhh.

You have to wonder, even if the vaccine is shit... God must be on my side then amarite???

How am I still standing? Two more weeks then and I'm fucked then, is that it?

hmm
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Maybe I'm so sick, I don't even know it???

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I know cops vaccinated back in January that are working all the games at Gillette stadium, out there in the crowds with no fucking mask every goddamned weekend and somehow, they're fine.

Dragging out drunk retards and putting them in the cage... there's literally an open air cage at every NFL stadium where the drunks get thrown into until they can be processed, it's full of piss and shit and puke and these guys have to drag drunk idiots in there all night long.

Could a chemo patient do that and not get sick?

Isn't 9 months long enough for ADE to "kick in"???

What say you Uncle Tard???
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Hey Uncle Horse Jizz, why didn't I get sick when I was riding in a van all week with my sick co-worker?

I didn't drink any horse jizz, and somehow I survived. So weird right?

Wouldn't someone with a chemo patient immune system get sick????

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URGENT: Covid vaccines will keep you from acquiring full immunity EVEN IF YOU ARE INFECTED AND RECOVER

Thread: URGENT: update page 6!! Covid vaccines will keep you from acquiring full immunity EVEN IF YOU ARE INFECTED AND RECOVER
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Full immunity? WTH does that even mean?
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No comment then, eh?

Just remember, it's you that wished me into the corn field... not the other way around.

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I spent all last week driving around in a van with a kid who developed COVID symptoms over the weekend.

He tested negative via rapid test, so who knows what that really means. He was not vaccinated.

Either way, I didn't get sick.

So either he had COVID and the vaccine worked for me, or he had the common cold and my immune system fought it off.

Either way Uncle Doom is a fucking liar.

No one else in my company was infected with whatever that was (and they are all vaccinated except for this one guy who was sick), and I didn't infect my elderly parents who I was around all last weekend.
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I don’t have you blocked. And the way Uncle Doom puts everything, vaxxed or not, you are screwed. So either live in a bunker, die from the vac or die from the virus. :::eyeroll::

Keep on keeping on Words
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URGENT: Covid vaccines will keep you from acquiring full immunity EVEN IF YOU ARE INFECTED AND RECOVER
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


You cannot destroy an immune system to the level of a chemotherapy patient and expect what is produced to be any use in the long term.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 78527812


Just dropping in for a while to see what's going on here, and I'm reminded why I left.

Vaccine recipients immune systems are not destroyed to the level of a chemotherapy patient. You fucking lie.

I really honestly hope that you die from COVID horribly, and spend the last few minutes of your life gasping for breath thinking about all of the lies you told, Uncle Doom.

This is what you deserve, and you know it.

I guess everyone has me blocked, but not you as an AC Uncle Doom so I sure do hope you see this post.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


I see it. I won't ever catch it. I won't ever get the spiked protein into me either. You know why?

Because my wife knows. She always has.

And you have my sympathies. Vaccinated and seeing all of this unfold? Must be scary. And that's okay - you can be scared and angry. After all, that is a human response shown by many when faced with a potentially terminal diagnosis.


Good luck to you Wordsie - I hope Parkinsons or worse doesn't get to you. I did warn you. Guess time will tell.
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According to you, UD we are going to all die no matter what. So what exactly are you trying to accomplish? That’s a serious question. You want everyone to stop living their lives and lock themselves inside? Get the vac, and die of some prion disease….don’t get vaxxed and die from the virus. Exactly wtf are you trying to say, and why?
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This video blew my mind. It's Dr. John Campbell, whom I have been watching since the beginning of the pandemic. He has generally been fairly pro-vax, and hasn't really questioned the offical narrative much. Recently, he's started to be more opinionated and outspoken that something doesn't seem right.

Here, he interviews a young athlete who has a documented case of vaccine-induced pericarditis (with some mycardial involvement.) He is being vocal about the need for truth about risk and benefit.

Long, but well worth the watch all the way through.

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 Quoting: Doommonkey


I was always under the impression Campbell was shilling for big pharma..

Or that at some point in 2020 he got a knock at the door to tell him to toe the line.

Maybe he has now had enough? Interesting to see him finally go against the heavily propagandised MSM narrative.
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I think he just wants to get true and actual facts out there. When I have watched some of his videos, he goes overboard to not politicize the pandemic and the situation. He is intelligent and has a good insight. I respect his views and have never thought he is influenced one way or the other by big pharma.
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URGENT: Covid vaccines will keep you from acquiring full immunity EVEN IF YOU ARE INFECTED AND RECOVER

Thread: URGENT: update page 6!! Covid vaccines will keep you from acquiring full immunity EVEN IF YOU ARE INFECTED AND RECOVER
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


You used the wrong doc link in the other post - the text you mention is not in the link you posted.

[link to assets.publishing.service.gov.uk (secure)]

What we are looking at is a Gov document that says "N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination"
It’s a question of methods. Everybody wants results, but nobody wants to do what they have to do to get them done.
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I am so screwed now in Singapore. New government announcement says must be vaccinated else can't go back to office to work starting from 1 Jan 2022 unless get weekly tested.

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Only fully vaccinated employees can return to workplaces from Jan 1; others must test negative
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A very interesting post from BBC Wales News on FB. There's nothing on Twitter or on the web page so maybe there's a rogue employee trying to get the truth out.

I can't find the raw data on the Public Health Wales website but this graph shows that, for all age groups, vaccinated people are 63% as likely as unvaccinated people to be hospitalised with covid.

I'm not even sure that the "All [ages]" figure is correct because the %age is lower for all the age categories eg vaccinated over 60s are 57% as likely to be hospitalised as unvaccinated over 60s.

82% of over 12s are double jabbed in Wales, and over the 4-week period in question around 1080 people were hospitalised with Covid.

2,240,000 over 12s in Wales are double jabbed, 490,000 are unjabbed. This means that 806 of the covid-hospitalised were double jabbed, and 279 of the covid-hospitalised were not double-jabbed in Wales in the period 12th September to 10th October.

Of course, the FB comments had some cruel people calling for the denial of health care to the unjabbed, but these figures show that they make up only 25% of the hospitalised.

https://imgur.com/a/gYEY3ZP
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Austrian chancellor threatens
lockdown for unvaccinated

VIENNA (AP) — Unvaccinated people in
Austria could face new lockdown
restrictions if coronavirus case
numbers continue to rise, Chancellor
Alexander Schallenberg said Friday night.

The news came after a Friday evening
meeting between Schallenberg and
state-level leaders to discuss their
response to rapidly increasing case
numbers.

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A very interesting post from BBC Wales News on FB. There's nothing on Twitter or on the web page so maybe there's a rogue employee trying to get the truth out.

I can't find the raw data on the Public Health Wales website but this graph shows that, for all age groups, vaccinated people are 63% as likely as unvaccinated people to be hospitalised with covid.

I'm not even sure that the "All [ages]" figure is correct because the %age is lower for all the age categories eg vaccinated over 60s are 57% as likely to be hospitalised as unvaccinated over 60s.

82% of over 12s are double jabbed in Wales, and over the 4-week period in question around 1080 people were hospitalised with Covid.

2,240,000 over 12s in Wales are double jabbed, 490,000 are unjabbed. This means that 806 of the covid-hospitalised were double jabbed, and 279 of the covid-hospitalised were not double-jabbed in Wales in the period 12th September to 10th October.

Of course, the FB comments had some cruel people calling for the denial of health care to the unjabbed, but these figures show that they make up only 25% of the hospitalised.

https://imgur.com/a/gYEY3ZP

 Quoting: Diffster

Well, the HSA report covers three weeks so is a little out of date.. but for England (weeks 38-41):

Unvax hosp adm: 2,534
Vax (any dose): 4,791

[link to assets.publishing.service.gov.uk (secure)]
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Remember: this, i.e. now, is likely to be the 'honeymoon period' for vaccines - the wild spike will only become more different to the vax-spike from here, and most are still fairly recently jabbed.

and PS: Wordsie - cool it with the death wishes, eh?
Everyone makes their own choices.
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A very interesting post from BBC Wales News on FB. There's nothing on Twitter or on the web page so maybe there's a rogue employee trying to get the truth out.

I can't find the raw data on the Public Health Wales website but this graph shows that, for all age groups, vaccinated people are 63% as likely as unvaccinated people to be hospitalised with covid.

I'm not even sure that the "All [ages]" figure is correct because the %age is lower for all the age categories eg vaccinated over 60s are 57% as likely to be hospitalised as unvaccinated over 60s.

82% of over 12s are double jabbed in Wales, and over the 4-week period in question around 1080 people were hospitalised with Covid.

2,240,000 over 12s in Wales are double jabbed, 490,000 are unjabbed. This means that 806 of the covid-hospitalised were double jabbed, and 279 of the covid-hospitalised were not double-jabbed in Wales in the period 12th September to 10th October.

Of course, the FB comments had some cruel people calling for the denial of health care to the unjabbed, but these figures show that they make up only 25% of the hospitalised.

https://imgur.com/a/gYEY3ZP

 Quoting: Diffster

Well, the HSA report covers three weeks so is a little out of date.. but for England (weeks 38-41):

Unvax hosp adm: 2,534
Vax (any dose): 4,791

[link to assets.publishing.service.gov.uk (secure)]
(pp14)

Remember: this, i.e. now, is likely to be the 'honeymoon period' for vaccines - the wild spike will only become more different to the vax-spike from here, and most are still fairly recently jabbed.

and PS: Wordsie - cool it with the death wishes, eh?
Everyone makes their own choices.
The reason we are here is for information.
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There's a big disparity between the Welsh and English figures, I think that the above graph has some incorrectly entered data.

What is certain is that a third - at most - of covid hospitalisions in the UK are non-double-jabbed, and that fraction is almost certainly getting smaller every day, as more people are jabbed and immunity wanes.
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Somehow, my crippled immune system has avoided all those pathogens from the sewage for 6 whole months.

I must be the luckiest sheep alive, baa baa baahhhh.

You have to wonder, even if the vaccine is shit... God must be on my side then amarite???

How am I still standing? Two more weeks then and I'm fucked then, is that it?

hmm
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let's call the man with 100 voices.this could b fun-

from scyfy-all the sh*t has worked to make u immune from effects. keep talking, u might see A-51 from the inside.

sports- the taller they are ,the harder they fall.keep filling that balloon head and the fall will sux later.

phylosopher- man shouldn't tempt fate.

man from 1815- your great ancestor had sex with an indian that was related to INCA's. your DNA is special.

town drunk- u are working to thin your blood. self-medicating

CHINEASE- u got a special dose. TPTB wanted u for organ replacements later.

course we all know the REAL RW got left in a time warp. the imposter from the future is satan himself?

FLIMNSTONE- your cave man ancestor was bitten by a now extinct snake altering your families DNA.

Confuscious says man who waves stick at virus finds tree falling on head

OLD MAN- hasn't anyone told u the facts of life?. when u get to bout 45-55, all the things u did when young catch up with u? then your health goes down hill all at once. 1 day u can move like 25. next day all the injuries of yesterday come back to haunt u. sux really.

shall i continue?
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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UD is right in that we all will die. never seen anyone avoid that. how and when is debateable.

we have an obligation to mankind and also as stewards of the planet and overseers of the animal kingdom.

if we fail, we are allowing the evil ppl who made the virus to control us all or kill us as they see fit.

if we trust them with our lives, we owe them our lives. think they deserve that payment for what they caused?

boy scout rule- leave things better than we found it. have we done that? or looking back thru history have we worked to make things worse for our offspring?

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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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One of the things that stood out for me in the Campbell video with the vax-injured guy was that he was improving a lot with the help of supplements (particularly black seed oil). He also took Ivermectin for a while, and is taking a number of supplements now.

The list of supplements was nearly identical to what the FLCCC and the additional things that Uncle Doom has been recommending.

There are entire communities of vax-injured people who are banding together to try to find answers. Campbell links to one of those resources with his video.

I am personally supplementing with most of those things, as well as continuing to take IVM, and I'm fairly sure it is keeping the vax damage at bay (and helped reverse my early effects from it.)

I can't say I exactly regret getting the vax, because that is now allowing me to be with my mom, when she is dying and needs me most. The vax may or may not have been the catalyst for her very sudden decline, but at 89, said decline was inevitable at some point. I wouldn't have been able to see her in the hospital without proof of vax, and the caregiving agency also greatly prefers that everyone the caregivers come into contact with be vaxxed.

I posted a while ago that I was willing to risk the vax, mainly because my mom is the only one really dependng on me. I don't have kids, and my friends/ other loved ones are self sufficient. My mom, however, would have nobody at all except me should she become really ill -- which is exactly what happened. The fact that I can be here for her makes it worth having done it, come what may. This is the most important mission I have to fulfill in this life. Whatever comes after is icing on the cake, or fire in the dumpster, or some combination of those things.

I'll do all I can to repair my body from the vaxxes, and I am going to refuse booster shots, even if that means I'm not considered fully vaccinated. After the 4 week migraine and additional 4 weeks of general misery after dose 2, I'm done with those vaccines. I may have to find another career, or jump through a bunch of hoops to get an exemption at work ... but I am not getting a booster unless I see very solid science indicating that the benefits outweigh the risks. So far, I see no such science, and I see and smell a lot of BS.

Many of my outspoken liberal friends and colleagues are posting about getting their boosters, and begging everyone else to do so. If I have a decent relationship with the person, I might very respectfully try to offer a counterpoint to that narrative .... but usually I just keep my trap shut.

Another point that came up in the Campbell video with the vax injured guy was that he was immediately labeled an antivaxxer, a conspiracy theorist, etc., for having had a bad reaction to the vax. The first hospital he visited (when he, a 29 year old athlete, had a resting heart rate of 160!) didn't test him for heart conditions, and said it was a panic attack. He was eventually sent away with a referral to a psychiatrist, and the doctor literally said he thought the man was having a PSYCHOTIC EPISODE! Campbell rightly points out that this is one of the worst sins one can make in psychology/psychiatry ... diagnosing a problem as psychiatric without first ruling out the possible organic causes. Sadly, it happens all the time, with both medical doctors and mental health professionals. Non-MD mental health professionals are limited in their ability to rule out physical illnesses without crossing a line into practing outside their expertise ... but the good ones will often say something like "this really doesn't seem like a mental illness to me. Would you consider getting a second opinion and a thorough workup from a doctor who specializes in difficult-to[diagnose conditions?"

I hammer this point into my students every semester, and tell them that while we are not doctors, we are professionals who have a duty to be sure that the mental health diagnoses of our patients are correct. If they don't seem correct, we have a right to question them, and request further medical testing.
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"but I am not getting a booster unless I see very solid science indicating that the benefits outweigh the risks. So far, I see no such science, and I see and smell a lot of BS."

I am receiving my booster next week, for the following reasons:

1. My LA son who is fully vaccinated has seen 7 deaths from covid-19 in his large company and numerous cases of covid and long covid within their unvaccinated close-knit families, (the deaths were all in their 30's, 40's and 50's, bread-winners, and as far as we know, reasonably healthy). We know of no deaths from vaccinated. All anecdotal I know.

2. We hope to visit our Navy son over thanks-giving on the East coast, which will involve "horrible" plane travel. I know the chance of bringing the disease with us is possible but they are fully vaccinated and he will be quarantined for at least two weeks before he disembarks (importantly, he is fine with that risk - we haven't seen each other in person for over two years!).

3. I am "retired" and of a certain age+ I smoked 40 a day until I was 38 years old + pneumonia + pleurisy are in my past.

4. In my age group + co-morbidities, the chances of becoming invalided or dead from even a mild infection of this virus are "high". This has been a hard decision (we even considered driving there and back across the US in an RV!).

Any thoughts?

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Hi all, is there a way to neutralise spike protein within vaccine? Thanks.
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Hi all, is there a way to neutralise spike protein within vaccine? Thanks.
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Nicotine can potentially block its combining with the nACH receptors, and Ivermectin for the ACEII. ..

But I wouldn't take my own advice!
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This video blew my mind. It's Dr. John Campbell, whom I have been watching since the beginning of the pandemic. He has generally been fairly pro-vax, and hasn't really questioned the offical narrative much. Recently, he's started to be more opinionated and outspoken that something doesn't seem right.

Here, he interviews a young athlete who has a documented case of vaccine-induced pericarditis (with some mycardial involvement.) He is being vocal about the need for truth about risk and benefit.

Long, but well worth the watch all the way through.

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I was always under the impression Campbell was shilling for big pharma..

Or that at some point in 2020 he got a knock at the door to tell him to toe the line.

Maybe he has now had enough? Interesting to see him finally go against the heavily propagandised MSM narrative.
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I have also been watching Dr. Campbell from the beginning. I have not been given the impression he was a big pharma shill. Indeed, his recent videos on aspiration, in the face of strong resistance appear to bolster my impression of him as a seasoned, no nonsense qualified medical professional... [link to www.10news.com (secure)]
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This has been my impression, too -- that he is a fairly by-the-books guy, but that when he sees something wrong, he isn't afraid to speak about it. He was among the first -- if not the very first -- to talk about the aspiration issue, and the possibility that the myocarditis is a result of the vaccine going into the bloodstream directly. That comes up in the video I posted -- the injured young man had a metallic taste in his mouth within 30 seconds of his second vax, which Campbell says is often the case with IV infusions, etc.
I was always taught to aspirate with IM injections! (I used to have to do them on myself) This applies to both human and animal IM injections. It literally takes seconds to do it.
 Quoting: Doommonkey

"The very fact that he is meeting resistance for that very sound hypothesis (that, if true, could easily stop some of the vax damage with a simple change of vax technique) is just mindboggling."

I read some of the reasons they are not aspirating (from supposedly medical professionals).

1. "they would need to train people to perform this"

2. "It takes longer"

3. "It might hurt if not performed properly"

4 My favourite "It would only save a few lives and some suffering"

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