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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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This was just posted in the other thread. Sorry, I don't know how to quote from one thread to another in a blue box, so I am just copying and pasting it:

Quoting Germany flag AC:



I know I am an AC.
No choice.

However, if a member can pick this up who is not ignoring me, I think we are at an important point in time.

A never-to-be-repeated snaphot, if you will.
TPTB will desperately try to muddy the waters over what is going on in India, until their vaccine is widely enough distributed to explain low cases/deaths.

I have personal knowledge out of Mumbai - weddings are going on, people are meeting, society is functioning, largely normally. Masks are being worn, but not always and at the wedding photos I saw, masks were removed.


India:
Has cases falling like a rock for a while, now JUST staring to pick up.
Also has deaths falling like a rock.

India has effectively banned Pfizer's vaccine:
[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]
Indian authorities refused to allow the vaccine to be distributed in India.

India has only vaccinated some of its healthcare and frontline workers.. no aged/elderly prioritization etc.
rooters (<50%):
12 Feb 2021
India, pharmacy of the world, falls behind on vaccinations at home
However, in four weeks health workers vaccinated only 7.5 million frontline workers

India's Vaccine Rollout Stumbles as COVID-19 Cases Decline
19-Feb 2021 ... One month into its vaccination campaign, India is struggling to get even its health workers to line up for shots.

Yet.. cases have dropped dramatically this year, and so have deaths..
Why?

I know they are giving out Ziverdo kits: aZIthromycin+IVermecin+DOxycycline, at a cost of $2.
Is Ivermectin enabling India to just go on as normal?
Will TPTB do ANYTHING & EVERYTHING to get India's vaccine rates increased, to try to cover up this vaccine-free and COVID-free world we might be able to reach?
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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Very much an opinion piece but worth a read if you're so minded and feeling critical.



Germany's school opening an 'experiment'.

The final paragraph struck me somewhat: -

The consequences of such a herd immunity policy—combined with only partial immunisation—are openly stated by the paper: “With increasing immunity in the population, the probability of the emergence of [variants created under high pressure of selection] increases. This can be expected soon in countries with declining population susceptibility.”
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It is just getting started !!
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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I does seem like something hinky is going on worldwide. I have nothing to add really other than that. I know people in my area are going about their business like the pandemic is over. While other's are quasi-celebrating, I cant shake the feeling this is the pulling back of a shoreline prior to a tsunami. Then again, 2020 could have left me jaded and paranoid. Time will tell, I suppose. Thanks for the thread btw
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EG, the numbers are rolling over for sure. And that started before the vaccines. So this thing is either going away (please) or we are simply witnessing the end of a huge wave.

Don't let your guard down until we know for sure. Czech Republic and Poland are already reporting a new wave starting. Sigh.
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And then the kids / really ?

Prof John Edmunds, a member of the government's Sage and Nervtag committees, told Andrew Marr (BBC) that the vaccine rollout should turn to children "as fast as we can".

The infectious diseases expert said: "We're all at risk and we can all spread the virus, and so until we've all been vaccinated - I include children here - then there is going to be significant risk of a resurgence."

Prof Edmunds, who said he had two children of secondary school age, warned there would continue to be "major disruption in schools until we have vaccinated our children".


So if most adults have been vaccinated and children are not at risk then why?

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I does seem like something hinky is going on worldwide. I have nothing to add really other than that. I know people in my area are going about their business like the pandemic is over. While other's are quasi-celebrating, I cant shake the feeling this is the pulling back of a shoreline prior to a tsunami. Then again, 2020 could have left me jaded and paranoid. Time will tell, I suppose. Thanks for the thread btw
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


I had to look up “hinky” ! Dishonest or suspect for us UKers.

Jaded for good reason - the first lockdown was the one and only remember !!

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This is interesting from the main board:


Thread: Warren Buffett Just Sold His Pfizer Stock. Why?
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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I does seem like something hinky is going on worldwide. I have nothing to add really other than that. I know people in my area are going about their business like the pandemic is over. While other's are quasi-celebrating, I cant shake the feeling this is the pulling back of a shoreline prior to a tsunami. Then again, 2020 could have left me jaded and paranoid. Time will tell, I suppose. Thanks for the thread btw
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


I had to look up “hinky” ! Dishonest or suspect for us UKers.

Jaded for good reason - the first lockdown was the one and only remember !!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


That's redneck talk for you.
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I does seem like something hinky is going on worldwide. I have nothing to add really other than that. I know people in my area are going about their business like the pandemic is over. While other's are quasi-celebrating, I cant shake the feeling this is the pulling back of a shoreline prior to a tsunami. Then again, 2020 could have left me jaded and paranoid. Time will tell, I suppose. Thanks for the thread btw
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


Totally agree EG! I think I’ll feel a little better if we hit April and things are still heading in the right direction.
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Looks like a lot of places are starting to see an uptick. The university where I teach is debating what to do with the Fall semester. I've already told the department I wish to continue with online courses, and they've said they will work with me. There is no way I'd feel safe on campus by September.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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If I use the term "hinky," does that make me a redneck? I do use that term, and I'm an urban dweller in CA... but I think I am something of a redneck at heart -- my family hails from rural VA.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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Bit different across US states but here in the U.K. it looks like mandatory vaccination is a long way off regarding the current law which does NOT allow it (yet),



Not so good for keeping my job....



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Bit different across US states but here in the U.K. it looks like mandatory vaccination is a long way off regarding the current law which does NOT allow it (yet),



Not so good for keeping my job....


 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Brilliant and informative

Thanks for sharing
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NZ going to level 1 lockdown after another case was found following last week's brief lockdown

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Figures in UK Government are pushing the line that is essential that kids get vaccinated. I can see them sanctioning parents who refuse to get the jab for their kid as they've already done this in some countries before with things like the measles jab.


Professor John Edmunds - a member of the government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) - warned that until everyone - including children - has been vaccinated there will be "significant risk of a resurgence" of the virus.

[link to news.sky.com (secure)]
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waitwhat

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The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) had authorised the purchase of over USD 17-million worth of a Cuban drug after believing that the country was involved in a biological war sparked by the COVID-19 pandemic, according to an official.

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Poland's cases have increased by a lot for consecutive days now

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It does appear that the situation in France and Italy is entering a new wave similar to that of other countries in Europe

Both countries registered their biggest increase in cases since the post-Christmas early January period.

If they decide to lockdown then I hope they learn the lesson from the b117 in UK... which is if you don't lockdown early with this variant then things can get very bad very quickly.






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News snippets (catching up on yesterday's news)









We now have emerging evidence that N440K is spreading a lot more in southern states (of India). Closer surveillance is needed to understand its spread properly. Accurate and timely detection of new variants that may show greater infectivity or worse clinical symptoms, including immune escape, will be extremely important to preempt disastrous consequences, said Dr Mishra.

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Are Pfizer just taking the piss now?



All the wailing and gnashing of teeth over super cold storage was not mevessary
 Quoting: lightning1977


I can't even... how could they not have collected data on the less cold temperature vaccine capability before now. Surely it wouldn't have been that difficult to find that out a long time ago?
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


This is troublesome in that duh Pfizer just discovered this tidbit now.

Makes me shudder to think what they are not telling or do not know about the impacts of their Pfizer Covid19 Shot long term on all the people getting it. What is not being disclosed or is just not yet known?
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I can’t help but think we are approaching some kind of impasse zone now. The vaccinations are sending the virus into retreat. But it will never be eliminated.

Maybe all we are at now is having kicked the can suitably down the road so that we can return to normality in time for summer. The economy is suffering badly and can’t remain in stasis in perpetuity.

Maybe the virus will mutate to workaround humanity’s mitigation strategies and the next impacts will be at a different demographic.



Or maybe at some point in 2021 or 2022 we can declare victory
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It's going to be a long year that's for sure.

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Good morning!
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hi

Just catching up now

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Vaccine jabs and divine intervention not enough for some it seems.



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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
This was just posted in the other thread. Sorry, I don't know how to quote from one thread to another in a blue box, so I am just copying and pasting it:

Quoting Germany flag AC:



I know I am an AC.
No choice.

However, if a member can pick this up who is not ignoring me, I think we are at an important point in time.

A never-to-be-repeated snaphot, if you will.
TPTB will desperately try to muddy the waters over what is going on in India, until their vaccine is widely enough distributed to explain low cases/deaths.

I have personal knowledge out of Mumbai - weddings are going on, people are meeting, society is functioning, largely normally. Masks are being worn, but not always and at the wedding photos I saw, masks were removed.


India:
Has cases falling like a rock for a while, now JUST staring to pick up.
Also has deaths falling like a rock.

India has effectively banned Pfizer's vaccine:
[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]
Indian authorities refused to allow the vaccine to be distributed in India.

India has only vaccinated some of its healthcare and frontline workers.. no aged/elderly prioritization etc.
rooters (<50%):
12 Feb 2021
India, pharmacy of the world, falls behind on vaccinations at home
However, in four weeks health workers vaccinated only 7.5 million frontline workers

India's Vaccine Rollout Stumbles as COVID-19 Cases Decline
19-Feb 2021 ... One month into its vaccination campaign, India is struggling to get even its health workers to line up for shots.

Yet.. cases have dropped dramatically this year, and so have deaths..
Why?

I know they are giving out Ziverdo kits: aZIthromycin+IVermecin+DOxycycline, at a cost of $2.
Is Ivermectin enabling India to just go on as normal?
Will TPTB do ANYTHING & EVERYTHING to get India's vaccine rates increased, to try to cover up this vaccine-free and COVID-free world we might be able to reach?
 Quoting: Serenity Now


All I will say for India is wait and see.

Like that poster mentioned, their cases are going up again now after being low for a while.

We've seen it happen in countries time and again where the infections get to a very low level then suddenly appears a problematic mutant variant and cases rocket up.





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