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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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Pregnant woman and her unborn child die in Israel.



An extremely sad story.

Some interesting snippets in the piece though.

'Health experts believe the increase in young people catching coronavirus is tied to the British mutation. Genetic sequencing of several pregnant Israeli women revealed they were infected with the variant.'

'The country opened up vaccination to pregnant women last month after it became clear that the third wave of coronavirus is striking younger people.'

'She called on women to “take care of yourselves and your fetuses. Any deliberation entails an unnecessary possibility of infection.”
Ben Shitrit's family said that she was hesitant to vaccinate due to misinformation she received through social networks.'
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A woman has died from Covid-19 after receiving a lung transplant from an infected patient.

In a study, researchers claimed the Michigan woman, who has not been named, is the first confirmed case of Covid transmission in a transplant patient in the US.

The study, published in the American Journal of Transplantation, also stated that one of the surgeons who had handled the organ was also found to have been infected with the disease four days later.

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Why were the lungs not tested??

Was the surgeon infected because he was only using a surgical mask??
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My question is, as an unvaccinated person is it safe to receive a blood transfusion from a mRna vaccinated person? What, if anything, will the mRna do to the cells of the unvaccinated person? Are there mRna cells present in blood?
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I does seem like something hinky is going on worldwide. I have nothing to add really other than that. I know people in my area are going about their business like the pandemic is over. While other's are quasi-celebrating, I cant shake the feeling this is the pulling back of a shoreline prior to a tsunami. Then again, 2020 could have left me jaded and paranoid. Time will tell, I suppose. Thanks for the thread btw
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I do have a sense of foreboding aswell. It just doesn't feel right to me to have much faith that a vax will be able to stop this rapidly mutating virus from having its way with us. I understand why vax might have worked in the past on certain viruses, but trying to control this particular type of virus, a coronavirus, with a vax with the view to there being a return to normality seems like a pipedream. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

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Looks like a lot of places are starting to see an uptick. The university where I teach is debating what to do with the Fall semester. I've already told the department I wish to continue with online courses, and they've said they will work with me. There is no way I'd feel safe on campus by September.
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hugs

Each time a monster wave hit Europe on the last two occasions, the U.S. then followed on soon after. And in the past week or so Europe is once again heading to a bad place unfortunately.
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Some honesty at last... we just don't know what will happen. Makes a change from what many politicians have been saying that there will be normality and we will be able to live with the virus.

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Figures in UK Government are pushing the line that is essential that kids get vaccinated. I can see them sanctioning parents who refuse to get the jab for their kid as they've already done this in some countries before with things like the measles jab.


Professor John Edmunds - a member of the government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) - warned that until everyone - including children - has been vaccinated there will be "significant risk of a resurgence" of the virus.

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How can they sanction us. If all adults are given the experimental drugs why would children even need it?
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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How the other half live

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Figures in UK Government are pushing the line that is essential that kids get vaccinated. I can see them sanctioning parents who refuse to get the jab for their kid as they've already done this in some countries before with things like the measles jab.


Professor John Edmunds - a member of the government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) - warned that until everyone - including children - has been vaccinated there will be "significant risk of a resurgence" of the virus.

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How can they sanction us. If all adults are given the experimental drugs why would children even need it?
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All adults won't take it though, will they? I guess it's easier for Gov to find ways to sanction parents for not allowing their kid to have the vax than it is to sanction an adult for refusing the vax for themself.

The main reason they will give is the mutation issue. Kids can still catch and spread the virus to vaccinated adults, even if those vaccinated adults don't get the severe symptoms due to having had the vax. The more the virus spreads then there is that increased risk of a terrible mutation. It's been said that the preliminary vax data shows there is a reduction in transmission. Whether that is what actually happens outside of a trial is another matter. (Don't confuse it with immunity to infection itself because that immunity doesn't exist with this virus).

So the Gov will argue that the kids need to be vaxxed to help get the R number as near to 1, or below 1, as possible in the community, in order to reduce the chances of troubling new variants popping up.

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Vaccines effects supposedly in play in Scotland.

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Vaccines effects supposedly in play in Scotland.
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While we're on the subject of Scotland. Officially recorded cases are on the way up. 715 cases today, up from 559 cases last Monday.
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Boris: All of England's schools to reopen on March 8
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Here's a more detailed look at the roadmap for leaving lockdown



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The end is in sight says Boris as he raises expectations.

Fortunately, I think people stopped giving weight to the things he says a long time ago!



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Zero-Covid ruled out for UK


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Netherlands in trouble

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Cases are continuing the alarming rise in Europe. I won't post anymore tweets from this guy because I don't want to spam the page, but you can just click the tweet and it takes you to the thread where you can read all the tweets in one place regarding the many European countries where the cases are rising.



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Official reported UK cases for today are 10,641. Up nearly 1,000 on last Monday. This is the first officially recorded cases increase for the UK since the first week of January.




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Italy: 9,630
+31% on last Monday
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UK news


Advisers warn tens of thousands more will die of Covid-19 as lockdown eases

Even a gradual easing during the spring is likely to produce a peak on the scale of last month or last April because so many people remain susceptible, according to modelling by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage).

Lifting all restrictions from the end of April would lead to a far bigger wave of hospital admissions than last month and some limits on social contact will be needed into the summer, the models suggest.

Sage told ministers last week that mask-wearing, avoiding crowds and contact tracing may be needed indefinitely to keep the virus under control.

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A woman has died from Covid-19 after receiving a lung transplant from an infected patient.

In a study, researchers claimed the Michigan woman, who has not been named, is the first confirmed case of Covid transmission in a transplant patient in the US.

The study, published in the American Journal of Transplantation, also stated that one of the surgeons who had handled the organ was also found to have been infected with the disease four days later.

[link to www.ladbible.com (secure)]


Why were the lungs not tested??

Was the surgeon infected because he was only using a surgical mask??
 Quoting: Moogles


My question is, as an unvaccinated person is it safe to receive a blood transfusion from a mRna vaccinated person? What, if anything, will the mRna do to the cells of the unvaccinated person? Are there mRna cells present in blood?
 Quoting: Conservative Moppie



This is one of the questions I have too. As I understand it, the mRNA causes your body to produce cells with the RNA fragment on/in them (don't attack me for me wording, I dont understand the science enough to teach it as such), thus, the blood in the transfusion has these spike proteins

So when your body sees them, does it attack them? What if they transfuse vacc'ed to vacc'ed, would the other vacc'ed persons body not see the spikes as something to attack (I dont know as its not a full virus)

Thing is, that is probably what they are using these "trials" for.

These "vaccines" never made it to human testing before as they always wiped out in animal testing.

Now they used the emergency authorization to bypass this so they can test these things out in humans and see what happens.
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...


Who are these guys?
 Quoting: lightning1977


Not sure about the guy on the left but on the right it's Dr. Paul Cottrell. He actually has a PhD in finance I just found out but these days he's a researcher at Harvard in subjects like chaos theory and biology. Before the pandemic really took off globally he intelligently explained what was about to go down and the mutations etc.

The video posted there is well worth the hour long watch imo. They put forward the theories about the virus being natural or bio-weapon, share the information which supports each theory and have an objective discussion about it.
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Yeah I watched the whole thing last night. Lots of theories based on joining dots. They all make sense of course. But very difficult to prove.

It’s clear that they both unequivocally believe COVID to be a bio weapon. But that they are somewhat shunned by the Scientific community.

I was curious the mention of the Deagu cult which I remember mentioned way back at the beginning of this. That this was deliberate spreading events rather than a naughty cult bending the rules!
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Personally I'm undecided on it being a bio-weapon or naturally occuring. But what I liked with those guys is they have their theory/opinion on it being a bio-weapon but they aren't trying to propagandize it. They even kind of criticized that Chinese scientist who came to America who claimed it was a bio-weapon because she only mentioned CCP involvement in certain programs, but failed to mention the U.S. involvement as well.
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I lean toward it, if not being a BioWeapon per se, then definitely being a lab-created, or at least lab-heavily-modified virus. The way this thing is behaving (rate of mutation, apparently mutating to more lethal rather than less, etc) all set off alarm bells that this is not a "natural" virus...
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Official reported UK cases for today are 10,641. Up nearly 1,000 on last Monday. This is the first officially recorded cases increase for the UK since the first week of January.



 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


I was just wondering how the overall numbers were looking. Thanks :)
I just saw this on Twitter (breakdowns by local authority for those who can’t see tweets). They have pretty much all been green (going down) lately. Today just about all red (going up)!

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Just letting y'all know what my plans are in the knowledge of developments elsewhere on the site.


I created this thread so there could be a place for covid news, views and discussion minus the trolling disruptions which was prevalent on the main thread. However, I've discovered there is another Covid thread that was created today, similarly pledging active moderation to this one. The new thread has absorbed a lot of the traffic from the old thread and will most likely become the main covid news/discussion thread and make my thread here redundant.

The reason for making this post is just to let y'all know that I will, for the time being, continue to moderate and post in this thread.

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Thanks! I live in Italy now. I will add to the thread if I hear anything local. :)
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Just letting y'all know what my plans are in the knowledge of developments elsewhere on the site.


I created this thread so there could be a place for covid news, views and discussion minus the trolling disruptions which was prevalent on the main thread. However, I've discovered there is another Covid thread that was created today, similarly pledging active moderation to this one. The new thread has absorbed a lot of the traffic from the old thread and will most likely become the main covid news/discussion thread and make my thread here redundant.

The reason for making this post is just to let y'all know that I will, for the time being, continue to moderate and post in this thread.
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


I will definitely continue to be on this thread and the new one as well...the huge thread, unfortunately, was allowed to devolve into a shitshow, which is a shame because it was a great thread at one point...
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A woman has died from Covid-19 after receiving a lung transplant from an infected patient.

In a study, researchers claimed the Michigan woman, who has not been named, is the first confirmed case of Covid transmission in a transplant patient in the US.

The study, published in the American Journal of Transplantation, also stated that one of the surgeons who had handled the organ was also found to have been infected with the disease four days later.

[link to www.ladbible.com (secure)]


Why were the lungs not tested??

Was the surgeon infected because he was only using a surgical mask??
 Quoting: Moogles


My question is, as an unvaccinated person is it safe to receive a blood transfusion from a mRna vaccinated person? What, if anything, will the mRna do to the cells of the unvaccinated person? Are there mRna cells present in blood?
 Quoting: Conservative Moppie



This is one of the questions I have too. As I understand it, the mRNA causes your body to produce cells with the RNA fragment on/in them (don't attack me for me wording, I dont understand the science enough to teach it as such), thus, the blood in the transfusion has these spike proteins

So when your body sees them, does it attack them? What if they transfuse vacc'ed to vacc'ed, would the other vacc'ed persons body not see the spikes as something to attack (I dont know as its not a full virus)

Thing is, that is probably what they are using these "trials" for.

These "vaccines" never made it to human testing before as they always wiped out in animal testing.

Now they used the emergency authorization to bypass this so they can test these things out in humans and see what happens.
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Yep. I always like your comments. Very astute.
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Just letting y'all know what my plans are in the knowledge of developments elsewhere on the site.


I created this thread so there could be a place for covid news, views and discussion minus the trolling disruptions which was prevalent on the main thread. However, I've discovered there is another Covid thread that was created today, similarly pledging active moderation to this one. The new thread has absorbed a lot of the traffic from the old thread and will most likely become the main covid news/discussion thread and make my thread here redundant.

The reason for making this post is just to let y'all know that I will, for the time being, continue to moderate and post in this thread.
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster



Okay, good. I plan to bounce around all three threads for the time being. :)
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