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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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From what I've been reading it seems like scientists didn't really have much confidence on stating what the effect of the California variants mutations were. They suspected things about the variant but it was only really until this week that I've read they have more confidence that it is more transmissible, more deadly and has immune escape.

It's interesting because until now I think only the e484k mutation has been associated with immune escape. I don't think the CA variant has the e484k mutation, so it could be an unfamiliar mutation causing it? hmm
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I'm not turning into George I promise: -

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Haha :). Any kind of news is welcome to be posted here, bud.

The defining aspect of George is the repellent attitude. You, Lightning, are far too pleasant to ever conjure up the slightest thought of a comparison to George!
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Yes. The MK cells cause inflammation and clotting.
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Hey, CC.

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Mutation cuts Pfizer vaccine protection to one-third, study shows

33% efficacy is bordering on useless! Article is behind a paywall, but I think they're referring to the efficacy towards the South Africa variant.


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Click the tweet to see the rest of the twitter thread for today's reported infections around the world.

Once again there's significant increases going on in many European countries.


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I'm not turning into George I promise: -

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Haha :). Any kind of news is welcome to be posted here, bud.

The defining aspect of George is the repellent attitude. You, Lightning, are far too pleasant to ever conjure up the slightest thought of a comparison to George!
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Thank you for your kind words.
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Click the tweet to see the rest of the twitter thread for today's reported infections around the world.

Once again there's significant increases going on in many European countries.



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Unless my Maths has gone to pot, and bearing in mind Czechia's population is 10.65m to UKs 66.65, this would be the equivalent of circa 94,000 cases in the UK.

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Click the tweet to see the rest of the twitter thread for today's reported infections around the world.

Once again there's significant increases going on in many European countries.



 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Unless my Maths has gone to pot, and bearing in mind Czechia's population is 10.65m to UKs 66.65, this would be the equivalent of circa 94,000 cases in the UK.

abomb
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Yeah, and the Czechs got hit similarly bad in the two previous waves in the Winter and Autumn just gone.

With such a high level of people who have already been infected I presume many bought into the idea that another monstrous wave would not happen any time soon. No such luck.

Just as you think you're done with Covid, you find out Covid is not done with you.

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They're going to attempt to design a covid vaccine to try and work for any pre-existing or future variants, which they hope will mean booster shots won't have to be produced each time a new variant with a problematic new escape mutation pops up.




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i hope he / she/ it is wearing Lakeland hazmat suit.
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Click the tweet to see the rest of the twitter thread for today's reported infections around the world.

Once again there's significant increases going on in many European countries.



 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Unless my Maths has gone to pot, and bearing in mind Czechia's population is 10.65m to UKs 66.65, this would be the equivalent of circa 94,000 cases in the UK.

abomb
 Quoting: lightning1977


Yeah, and the Czechs got hit similarly bad in the two previous waves in the Winter and Autumn just gone.

With such a high level of people who have already been infected I presume many bought into the idea that another monstrous wave would not happen any time soon. No such luck.

Just as you think you're done with Covid, you find out Covid is not done with you.

burnit
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All okay in the U.K. though - just start opening up!! Vaccines have saved us.

NOT!
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Merde!!

Over 31k cases reported today in France


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Click the tweet to see the rest of the twitter thread for today's reported infections around the world.

Once again there's significant increases going on in many European countries.



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Unless my Maths has gone to pot, and bearing in mind Czechia's population is 10.65m to UKs 66.65, this would be the equivalent of circa 94,000 cases in the UK.

abomb
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Yeah, and the Czechs got hit similarly bad in the two previous waves in the Winter and Autumn just gone.

With such a high level of people who have already been infected I presume many bought into the idea that another monstrous wave would not happen any time soon. No such luck.

Just as you think you're done with Covid, you find out Covid is not done with you.

burnit
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All okay in the U.K. though - just start opening up!! Vaccines have saved us.

NOT!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


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Drop off in Uk vaccination numbers due to lack of supply.


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How is that possible. All I heard last week is that the UK was swimming in doses and had way more that they needed?
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The European countries on the mainland need to act decisively on whether to lockdown or not.

I'm looking at France in particular because they were going to go for another lockdown last month, but then hesitated and ultimately decided aginst it. They got lucky that time because cases didn't rise too much, and unlike now where cases are rising more, and seeing higher rate of ICU admittance per recorded cases. All signs point to the more lethal, more transmissible b117 variant spreading.

The lesson from UK with b117 is you must not wait, you must lockdown early. You can't wait and see how things are playing out because by then it will be too late as the variant spreads super easily.

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California variant is now dominant in some area/s of California, but this variant is not believed to be as aggressive as the UK and South African variants.


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Drop off in Uk vaccination numbers due to lack of supply.


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How is that possible. All I heard last week is that the UK was swimming in doses and had way more that they needed?
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I thought we were giving them away???
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This is long from over!
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A friend forwarded this to me yesterday, from Yahoo News (oxymoron for sure) cool2

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My gist from the article:

This mutation emerged in May, so been here awhile, has become dominant strain in CA. Easier spreading, more evasive to antibodies from prior infection or vaccine.



Some of the article:

B.1.427/B.1.429's genome includes three mutations that affect the crucial spike protein, which the virus uses to sneak into human cells and convert them into factories for its own production. One of those three mutations, dubbed L452R, affects the so-called receptor binding domain, helping the virus attach more firmly to target cells.

That adaptation has not been seen in coronavirus variants that have caused worry elsewhere.

In a UCSF lab, scientists found that the L452R mutation alone made the California strain more damaging as well. A coronavirus engineered to have only that mutation was able to infect human lung tissue at least 40% more readily than were circulating variants that lacked the mutation. Compared with those so-called wild-type strains, the engineered virus was more than three times more infectious. ...

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Thought provoking paper. Only one study, but inch by inch perhaps accurate understanding will come about. Uncle Doom way back in the day on the other thread was one of the first to mention prions linked to this virus, I do believe. Now perhaps the C19 vaccines also have such a link, and that's a very bad thing, if so.

[link to scivisionpub.com (secure)]

Selections from the paper's Abstract

Development of new vaccine technology has been plagued with problems in the past. The current RNA based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were approved in the US using an emergency order without extensive long term safety testing. In this paper the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine was evaluated for the potential to induce prion-based disease in vaccine recipients. The RNA sequence of the vaccine as well as the spike protein target interaction were analyzed for the potential to convert intracellular RNA binding proteins TAR DNA binding protein (TDP-43) and Fused in Sarcoma (FUS) into their pathologic prion conformations. The results indicate that the vaccine RNA has specific sequences that may induce TDP-43 and FUS to fold into their pathologic prion confirmations. ...
The folding of TDP-43 and FUS into their pathologic prion confirmations is known to cause ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological degenerative diseases. ...

The enclosed finding as well as additional potential risks leads the author to believe that regulatory approval of the RNA based vaccines for SARS-CoV-2 was premature and that the vaccine may cause much more harm than benefit.
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You guys are doing an awesome job with the news on this thread. I don't have much time for anything other than reading when I have a few minutes spare so appreciate the work you're all doing to contribute.

Stay safe!
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Leading hair loss clinic reports a link between Covid-19 symptoms and a rise in patients whose locks are falling out in clumps - as one survivor shaves her head after being left partially bald

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Is Boris Johnson going bald? PM's trademark mop shows signs of thinning after his battle against coronavirus


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5G / Wifi Radiation.
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Iron oxide radiation
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Thought provoking paper. Only one study, but inch by inch perhaps accurate understanding will come about. Uncle Doom way back in the day on the other thread was one of the first to mention prions linked to this virus, I do believe. Now perhaps the C19 vaccines also have such a link, and that's a very bad thing, if so.

[link to scivisionpub.com (secure)]

Selections from the paper's Abstract

Development of new vaccine technology has been plagued with problems in the past. The current RNA based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were approved in the US using an emergency order without extensive long term safety testing. In this paper the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine was evaluated for the potential to induce prion-based disease in vaccine recipients. The RNA sequence of the vaccine as well as the spike protein target interaction were analyzed for the potential to convert intracellular RNA binding proteins TAR DNA binding protein (TDP-43) and Fused in Sarcoma (FUS) into their pathologic prion conformations. The results indicate that the vaccine RNA has specific sequences that may induce TDP-43 and FUS to fold into their pathologic prion confirmations. ...
The folding of TDP-43 and FUS into their pathologic prion confirmations is known to cause ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological degenerative diseases. ...

The enclosed finding as well as additional potential risks leads the author to believe that regulatory approval of the RNA based vaccines for SARS-CoV-2 was premature and that the vaccine may cause much more harm than benefit.
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Wtf - this is in the discussion ....

Discussion
There is an old saying in medicine that “the cure may be worse than the disease.” The phrase can be applied to vaccines. In the current paper the concern is raised that the RNA based COVID vaccines have the potential to cause more disease than the epidemic of COVID-19. This paper focuses on a novel potential adverse event mechanism causing prion disease which could be even more common and debilitating than the viral infection the vaccine is designed to prevent. While this paper focuses on one potential adverse event there are multiple other potential fatal adverse events as discussed below.

Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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