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CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 78572782 United States 04/30/2021 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) ... Quoting: CleverCreator Pretend someone actually explained that there are binders and binders and fucking rows and rows of the best ways todo this. It’s a fucking nightmare now. You are going to look back fondly at when the world was modernized. Right, binders. Which the Trump administration threw out for the US. And pretty damn effing hard to follow any of what was in those binders when the entire Republican party, leaders and voters, think the virus is overblown and a hoax! Whose fault is that? Binders are great until they meet real life people, politics and dynamics. Don’t blame one person. There were plenty of fail safes that NO ONE Implemented. We have a 3 branch government for a reason. Don’t get sloppy in your reasoning. My reasoning is entirely intact. Don't resort to personal insults because you know I am right. 3 branches of government... dominated in 2020 by Republicans. So please. Where were all the rest of the Republicans standing up to that moron? You tell me who they were, and what they said and did to follow the plans in those binders. No one told the moron he was on the wrong path. No one stood up to him. And if the Republican party did believe it all, on a state level, actions also would have been different. Give me a break. I don't see where CC resorted to personal insults. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill on the original comment about restricting international travel if you want my honest opinion. I don't see why they can't restrict international travel more than they have done up till now, at least for the time being - and you don't have to include exports and imports in that. It's not about left/right, or focusing all criticism towards this particular government or another particular government. I just think more could be done in many countries in some aspects towards the pandemic, but the will is not there unfortunately. Last Edited by CoronaCoaster on 04/30/2021 03:01 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52771426 United States 04/30/2021 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) The very fact that Republicans and Democrats make it into this conversation is SLOPPY. Quoting: CleverCreator You can think in those terms and that’s why we failed. Not a single person was able to let go of political anger at the levels we needed. Not a single General, Admiral, or Executive Services Member. Don’t get mad at me for calling out sloppy reasoning. Making a pandemic political is the epitome of failure. And the entire world now gets to enjoy the seeds that it has sowed. Woooohooo. Biden still had the chance to close borders, halt international travel, and set up containment zones for international trade.... guess what? He hasn’t either. And none of the others are calling for it either. So every single player is at fault. This is intentional spread. Heyyyyyy Batter Battter. Swing and a miss. You are being sloppy. Who else was responsible for following those binders in 2020? Who was in charge of making of following the plans??? Since the virus is as rampant as it is, closing borders now is futile. You would need to close up for at minimum, 6 months. Minimum! for all cases of domestic transmission to significantly slow, not to even mentioning halting the introduction of new cases from international travel. That is not going to happen at this point. There was only one window where halting everything would have mattered and that was early in 2020. We blew past that opportunity a long time ago. I have yet to see your plans laid out for how this country, any country, reorganizes itself to function in a complete bubble. I just hear noise. |
Dosha
User ID: 77473202 United States 04/30/2021 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) ... Quoting: Dosha Since you "assume" this agent is NOT being spread purposefully how about you back YOUR assumptions up to prove they aren't BS. Nah, you go first. Show me the proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is in purpose. You can't. Incompetence. It’s purposely being spread just by incompetence.... And that alone is bad enough. Incompetence, right. But that's not the same as the whole "plandemic" minded people who think it's a deliberate depopulation plandemic and the masterminds are hiding out in their bunkers. It's also brings me back to what I said above and that is that had the US government done what it needed to do, there would have been cries of authoritarianism, etc. And yes, we had the most incompetent person and administration in charge when it hit, too. Yes, it's bad enough, but that doesn't equal deliberate intent, either. Too bad you wouldn't answer a simple question. Dosha |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80220497 04/30/2021 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Usa banning flights from india except for usa citizens and green card holders starting tuesday at 12:01 am, biden finally doing something good. We might have a chance to prevent the indian variant spread here now in big numbers. Quoting: General Thade Unless it is a 100% border close.... too late. Too little. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52771426 United States 04/30/2021 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52771426 Right, binders. Which the Trump administration threw out for the US. And pretty damn effing hard to follow any of what was in those binders when the entire Republican party, leaders and voters, think the virus is overblown and a hoax! Whose fault is that? Binders are great until they meet real life people, politics and dynamics. Don’t blame one person. There were plenty of fail safes that NO ONE Implemented. We have a 3 branch government for a reason. Don’t get sloppy in your reasoning. My reasoning is entirely intact. Don't resort to personal insults because you know I am right. 3 branches of government... dominated in 2020 by Republicans. So please. Where were all the rest of the Republicans standing up to that moron? You tell me who they were, and what they said and did to follow the plans in those binders. No one told the moron he was on the wrong path. No one stood up to him. And if the Republican party did believe it all, on a state level, actions also would have been different. Give me a break. I don't see where CC resorted to personal insults. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill on the original comment about restricting international travel if you want my honest opinion. I don't see why they can't restrict international travel more than they have done up till now, at least for the time being - and you don't have to include exports and imports in that. It's not about left/right, or focusing all criticism towards this particular government or another particular government. I just think more could be done in many countries in some aspects towards the pandemic, but the will is not there unfortunately. Calling my thinking sloppy is exactly a personal attack and shows me CC can't just have a conversation. You don't have to include imports? I guess you assume ships and trucking don't involve people crossing border lines and don't spread Covid? Thousands of truck travel across the Canada, Mexico and the US. thousands of people on the move every day moving goods. If you are going to close everything, you close everything. You don't just focus on tourists. China understood that and set up barricades around Wuhan. That is just not going to happen here. Do you really think the fact that it can't or won't happen here is an intentional move to spread the virus? Like people are actually sitting around some conference table and saying, "We cannot stop trucking because the virus then won't spread like we want it to?" that is intent. There is a difference between that kind of intent and unintended consequences of keeping some semblance of an economy going. Where is the balance? Lock the entire country down and then watch everything else fall apart in a domino effect? Great, we stopped the virus, but now we are living back in the dark ages. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52771426 United States 04/30/2021 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) And politics only entered because to do the lockdown such as was needed could not have happened without economic support of all citizens. And what trivial economic support we were offered in this country (US) was massively political. Half the country didn't want it and called it socialism. That makes it political. You can't just lock everything down without planning for economic support. It's not logical. Not one of you has told me what your plan would look like at this point, one that would work for a nation such as ours, with our state control and federal control. What is your vision to restrict more traffic in a way that would actually bring about measurable results (significantly lowered cases as a result versus local lockdowns lowering cases) while keeping the economy going? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80220497 04/30/2021 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) ... Quoting: CleverCreator Don’t blame one person. There were plenty of fail safes that NO ONE Implemented. We have a 3 branch government for a reason. Don’t get sloppy in your reasoning. My reasoning is entirely intact. Don't resort to personal insults because you know I am right. 3 branches of government... dominated in 2020 by Republicans. So please. Where were all the rest of the Republicans standing up to that moron? You tell me who they were, and what they said and did to follow the plans in those binders. No one told the moron he was on the wrong path. No one stood up to him. And if the Republican party did believe it all, on a state level, actions also would have been different. Give me a break. I don't see where CC resorted to personal insults. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill on the original comment about restricting international travel if you want my honest opinion. I don't see why they can't restrict international travel more than they have done up till now, at least for the time being - and you don't have to include exports and imports in that. It's not about left/right, or focusing all criticism towards this particular government or another particular government. I just think more could be done in many countries in some aspects towards the pandemic, but the will is not there unfortunately. Calling my thinking sloppy is exactly a personal attack and shows me CC can't just have a conversation. You don't have to include imports? I guess you assume ships and trucking don't involve people crossing border lines and don't spread Covid? Thousands of truck travel across the Canada, Mexico and the US. thousands of people on the move every day moving goods. If you are going to close everything, you close everything. You don't just focus on tourists. China understood that and set up barricades around Wuhan. That is just not going to happen here. Do you really think the fact that it can't or won't happen here is an intentional move to spread the virus? Like people are actually sitting around some conference table and saying, "We cannot stop trucking because the virus then won't spread like we want it to?" that is intent. There is a difference between that kind of intent and unintended consequences of keeping some semblance of an economy going. Where is the balance? Lock the entire country down and then watch everything else fall apart in a domino effect? Great, we stopped the virus, but now we are living back in the dark ages. If you believe pointing out sloppy thinking is a personal attack.... Never. Ever. Try. To. Actually. Solve. Problems..... On the big stage of life. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52771426 United States 04/30/2021 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) If you believe pointing out sloppy thinking is a personal attack.... Quoting: CleverCreator Never. Ever. Try. To. Actually. Solve. Problems..... On the big stage of life. Well, actually, I do. So When you bring in adjectives and can't discuss, then the real issue is that you don't want to discuss. That's the bottom line. You would actually like to try to one up me with arrogance than have a conversation. Moving on. This has gotten boring. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80220497 04/30/2021 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) If you believe pointing out sloppy thinking is a personal attack.... Quoting: CleverCreator Never. Ever. Try. To. Actually. Solve. Problems..... On the big stage of life. Well, actually, I do. So When you bring in adjectives and can't discuss, then the real issue is that you don't want to discuss. That's the bottom line. You would actually like to try to one up me with arrogance than have a conversation. Moving on. This has gotten boring. For once.... middle management does not count. I mean actual life stage that helps more than the share holders. |
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CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 78572782 United States 04/30/2021 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) ... Quoting: CleverCreator Don’t blame one person. There were plenty of fail safes that NO ONE Implemented. We have a 3 branch government for a reason. Don’t get sloppy in your reasoning. My reasoning is entirely intact. Don't resort to personal insults because you know I am right. 3 branches of government... dominated in 2020 by Republicans. So please. Where were all the rest of the Republicans standing up to that moron? You tell me who they were, and what they said and did to follow the plans in those binders. No one told the moron he was on the wrong path. No one stood up to him. And if the Republican party did believe it all, on a state level, actions also would have been different. Give me a break. I don't see where CC resorted to personal insults. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill on the original comment about restricting international travel if you want my honest opinion. I don't see why they can't restrict international travel more than they have done up till now, at least for the time being - and you don't have to include exports and imports in that. It's not about left/right, or focusing all criticism towards this particular government or another particular government. I just think more could be done in many countries in some aspects towards the pandemic, but the will is not there unfortunately. Calling my thinking sloppy is exactly a personal attack and shows me CC can't just have a conversation. You don't have to include imports? I guess you assume ships and trucking don't involve people crossing border lines and don't spread Covid? Thousands of truck travel across the Canada, Mexico and the US. thousands of people on the move every day moving goods. If you are going to close everything, you close everything. You don't just focus on tourists. China understood that and set up barricades around Wuhan. That is just not going to happen here. Do you really think the fact that it can't or won't happen here is an intentional move to spread the virus? Like people are actually sitting around some conference table and saying, "We cannot stop trucking because the virus then won't spread like we want it to?" that is intent. There is a difference between that kind of intent and unintended consequences of keeping some semblance of an economy going. Where is the balance? Lock the entire country down and then watch everything else fall apart in a domino effect? Great, we stopped the virus, but now we are living back in the dark ages. The comment was about international travel, and yes the tourists and business travellers on planes across continents to be specific. They involve a higher risk of importing and spreading new variants compared to say the folks involved in the transport of goods from a border country. Your thinking seems to be if we can't do everything exactly like China then let's just do nothing. I disagree with that. There could still be benefits from having more restrictions in international travel and it wouldn't have to mean the economy crashes. |
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(OP) User ID: 78572782 United States 04/30/2021 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) The head Doctor at an ICU unit in India: "The problem with this virus second wave is... it is affecting the younger population in a significantly different way that we had not expected". https://twitter.com/_/status/1388081299483660288 Last Edited by CoronaCoaster on 04/30/2021 04:46 PM |
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JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 04/30/2021 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) India COVID-19 'double mutant' variant B1617 identified in Michigan.... [link to www.wxyz.com (secure)] Quoting: Lago Masks are being worn, “but the masks are protecting people’s beards, rather than their noses,” JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 04/30/2021 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Ok, pretend you are in charge. You want to close borders. Tell me how that would work with imports/exports, suspension of all shipping traffic, etc? How does that not nosedive the economy as badly as lockdowns have? It is easy enough to see what is the best course of action, in theory it is, but implementing it is a whole other ballgame. It's easy to call it deliberate, but if you don't start figuring out how the rest of the sytem should function once it is closed, then you aren't any better at solving this nightmare then they are. Pretend someone actually explained that there are binders and binders and fucking rows and rows of the best ways todo this. It’s a fucking nightmare now. You are going to look back fondly at when the world was modernized. Right, binders. Which the Trump administration threw out for the US. And pretty damn effing hard to follow any of what was in those binders when the entire Republican party, leaders and voters, think the virus is overblown and a hoax! Whose fault is that? Binders are great until they meet real life people, politics and dynamics. are u just stupid?? u ever hear of COG????????????? TRUMP did not write those reports. idiot. and yes FARCI is still in charge of the CDC. i have documented his fluick ups. go read the 12,000+ pages. course BUIDEN's plan is working. lets see what was it again? oh yep,do what TRUMP did and said that MSM argued against. as in less testing and hand out the "BADD" vaccijnes. wake up sheep. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 04/30/2021 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) ... Quoting: CleverCreator Pretend someone actually explained that there are binders and binders and fucking rows and rows of the best ways todo this. It’s a fucking nightmare now. You are going to look back fondly at when the world was modernized. Right, binders. Which the Trump administration threw out for the US. And pretty damn effing hard to follow any of what was in those binders when the entire Republican party, leaders and voters, think the virus is overblown and a hoax! Whose fault is that? Binders are great until they meet real life people, politics and dynamics. Don’t blame one person. There were plenty of fail safes that NO ONE Implemented. We have a 3 branch government for a reason. Don’t get sloppy in your reasoning. My reasoning is entirely intact. Don't resort to personal insults because you know I am right. 3 branches of government... dominated in 2020 by Republicans. So please. Where were all the rest of the Republicans standing up to that moron? You tell me who they were, and what they said and did to follow the plans in those binders. No one told the moron he was on the wrong path. No one stood up to him. And if the Republican party did believe it all, on a state level, actions also would have been different. Give me a break. ohhhh we are sorry great 1. we didn't realize the DEM's worked for the REPUBLICANS when they wrote the COG orders. nor did we know CUOMO changed colors. WTF are u from the circus? or just dropped on your head? "but BIDEN is prez,so vacine is good now even thou it was made with TRUMP's name on it" idiot. it is the same GD vaccine .. HELLOOO ANY BRAINS IN THERE????? but Piglosi said chinease ppl were not making ppl sick. it was safe to travel all over the world. umm dumb dumb,try flying to INDIA TODAY. hello? can u smell the manure in your own breathe? JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 04/30/2021 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) correction unless they come in thru mexico. then they can walk right in virus and all. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 04/30/2021 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) More evidence for increased disease severity from variants Quoting: CoronaCoaster The head Doctor at an ICU unit in India: "The problem with this virus second wave is... it is affecting the younger population in a significantly different way that we had not expected". https://twitter.com/_/status/1388081299483660288 we can fix it. i vote we send george this ac rere and BIDEN and KH to help. 1 way ticket only. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |