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lightning1977
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Lago
User ID: 80284035 United States 05/03/2021 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) ‘Calamity of maternal deaths’: Covid concern grows for Brazil’s pregnant.... [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] Lago |
Lago
User ID: 80284035 United States 05/03/2021 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) ... Quoting: Lago "attacks the vascular system on a cellular level." Holy crap, that's every organ in the body. You really must do everything you can to not catch this monster! I feel like a canary in the coal mine. Just over four months since my Covid positive test. Fuck. This may be what all this "long covid" is about. The virus is circulating in the vascular, or blood circulatory, system until it finds a vulnerable organ/organs? Proper answer is "I don't know", but in a attempt not to be boring, I'll go with "I don't think so". My understanding of the underlying process is shaky at best but it seems to me the actual "infection" stage, where the virus does damage is mostly limited to two-three weeks. There are extreme's where it's much longer and for most it's shorter but for a ball park figure that seems about right. The problem is given that the virus can effect (damage) blood vessels, it can effect every part of the body. I'm still iffy on the viability of replication outside some of the sweet spots like the lungs etc. Even though the window for actual damage from the virus would then be short the cascading effects can linger and present with delay. That might be all wrong though, if it even makes sense. Thanks for the Green, Dutchy20 Lago |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80220497 05/03/2021 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) The spike protein alone was enough to cause disease..... [link to weather.com (secure)] Quoting: Lago Fantastic so let’s go and inject everyone with a drug that makes your own body produce the illness causing spike proteins!! You couldn’t write it could you. More and more proof the experimental gene therapy jabs will cause a catastrophe? It's more complicated then that... The article is based on that paper that CC helped me find yesterday, full version here: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)] I need to go over it again, medical papers are harder for me to fully grasp because I need to google half the terms, but simply saying that the vaccine will cause illness doesn't seem to be the correct conclusion. I am concerned about infections after the shot. Every cases study that I have read plus anecdotal evidence.... it screams lingering things not being discussed properly. Blinded by science. And normalcy bias. (Not Dutchy.... the medical researchers) |
Lago
User ID: 80284035 United States 05/03/2021 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Maldives reports new single-day record in COVID-19 cases... [link to avas.mv (secure)] population approx. 540,000 Last Edited by Lago on 05/03/2021 05:20 PM Lago |
Dutchy20
User ID: 79233391 Netherlands 05/03/2021 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) The spike protein alone was enough to cause disease..... [link to weather.com (secure)] Quoting: Lago Fantastic so let’s go and inject everyone with a drug that makes your own body produce the illness causing spike proteins!! You couldn’t write it could you. More and more proof the experimental gene therapy jabs will cause a catastrophe? It's more complicated then that... The article is based on that paper that CC helped me find yesterday, full version here: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)] I need to go over it again, medical papers are harder for me to fully grasp because I need to google half the terms, but simply saying that the vaccine will cause illness doesn't seem to be the correct conclusion. I am concerned about infections after the shot. Every cases study that I have read plus anecdotal evidence.... it screams lingering things not being discussed properly. Blinded by science. And normalcy bias. (Not Dutchy.... the medical researchers) Yeah, given our limited understanding of long-covid I share your concern. Even if the vaccine's don't cause issue's on their own and they ward of the acute clinical symptoms there is very little to suggest it will do the same for the long term symptoms. My one positive take on this is that the limited reporting seems to point to these problems being rare and relatively insignificant. Even though it can be devastating at the individual scale, in a macro view it seems to have not become a significant problem. Vaid Status: It's a small world after all! |
ShylaRose
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lightning1977
User ID: 80291318 United Kingdom 05/03/2021 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Concerns in Sri Lanka as case positivity inches up https://twitter.com/_/status/1389235986614284288 https://twitter.com/_/status/1389257520544305161 AZ vaccine second doses delayed https://twitter.com/_/status/1388077564850319361 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80220497 05/03/2021 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) ... Quoting: ParamedicUK Fantastic so let’s go and inject everyone with a drug that makes your own body produce the illness causing spike proteins!! You couldn’t write it could you. More and more proof the experimental gene therapy jabs will cause a catastrophe? It's more complicated then that... The article is based on that paper that CC helped me find yesterday, full version here: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)] I need to go over it again, medical papers are harder for me to fully grasp because I need to google half the terms, but simply saying that the vaccine will cause illness doesn't seem to be the correct conclusion. I am concerned about infections after the shot. Every cases study that I have read plus anecdotal evidence.... it screams lingering things not being discussed properly. Blinded by science. And normalcy bias. (Not Dutchy.... the medical researchers) Yeah, given our limited understanding of long-covid I share your concern. Even if the vaccine's don't cause issue's on their own and they ward of the acute clinical symptoms there is very little to suggest it will do the same for the long term symptoms. My one positive take on this is that the limited reporting seems to point to these problems being rare and relatively insignificant. Even though it can be devastating at the individual scale, in a macro view it seems to have not become a significant problem. You are talking right now.... Think 10 years out.... slow vascular breakdown. Permanent MK overproduction. This is a fuck all it’s own. They still think fibromyalgia isn’t degenerative..... but weird fact.... over 80% develop some sort of tendinitis and more than half of those go on to need corrective surgeries after the age of 50. Several surgeries. So short term looks decent. Long term....my guts are screaming for folks to be prepared. |
CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 79134747 United Kingdom 05/03/2021 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) The spike protein alone was enough to cause disease..... [link to weather.com (secure)] Quoting: Lago Fantastic so let’s go and inject everyone with a drug that makes your own body produce the illness causing spike proteins!! You couldn’t write it could you. More and more proof the experimental gene therapy jabs will cause a catastrophe? It's more complicated then that... The article is based on that paper that CC helped me find yesterday, full version here: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)] I need to go over it again, medical papers are harder for me to fully grasp because I need to google half the terms, but simply saying that the vaccine will cause illness doesn't seem to be the correct conclusion. I'm curious aswell about whether the spike proteins induced from the vaccine could cause any issues with the blood vessels. I've looked around but didn't find an answer yet either. Will be interested and grateful to know what you can find on that, Dutchy. |
CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 79134747 United Kingdom 05/03/2021 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) ... Quoting: ParamedicUK Fantastic so let’s go and inject everyone with a drug that makes your own body produce the illness causing spike proteins!! You couldn’t write it could you. More and more proof the experimental gene therapy jabs will cause a catastrophe? It's more complicated then that... The article is based on that paper that CC helped me find yesterday, full version here: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)] I need to go over it again, medical papers are harder for me to fully grasp because I need to google half the terms, but simply saying that the vaccine will cause illness doesn't seem to be the correct conclusion. I am concerned about infections after the shot. Every cases study that I have read plus anecdotal evidence.... it screams lingering things not being discussed properly. Blinded by science. And normalcy bias. (Not Dutchy.... the medical researchers) Yeah, given our limited understanding of long-covid I share your concern. Even if the vaccine's don't cause issue's on their own and they ward of the acute clinical symptoms there is very little to suggest it will do the same for the long term symptoms. My one positive take on this is that the limited reporting seems to point to these problems being rare and relatively insignificant. Even though it can be devastating at the individual scale, in a macro view it seems to have not become a significant problem. I found this fairly new preprint the other day, Dutchy. I'm not quite sure what to make of it myself. It seems like they're saying they have an idea why long-covid is happening and vaccination could reduce it. But it looks like they didn't provide any data to show that people saw a reduction in long covid after vaccination. Thoughts? https://twitter.com/_/status/1383489815371411464 |
CoronaCoaster
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JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 05/03/2021 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) thats an N. what happens at BINGO? we are getting close. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 79134747 United Kingdom 05/03/2021 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Interesting... Looking at the sequenced cases in the U.S., the UK and SA variant have kind of levelled off, but the Brazillian P1 is still gaining. https://twitter.com/_/status/1389248460017209348 Last Edited by CoronaCoaster on 05/03/2021 10:01 PM |
JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 05/03/2021 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) CC2 on your theory with climates. we have been going down locally since the holidays. never saw a spike after them at all. note-they changed the testing back then. are winter is coldest from JAN to March.#'s were going down not up. i do think ppl travel less and shop less. so i think there is more to the equation. i do think in theory cold would help it spread more. have not seen that in reality thou. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
CoronaCoaster
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Texan Buckeye
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CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 79134747 United Kingdom 05/03/2021 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) CC2 on your theory with climates. we have been going down locally since the holidays. never saw a spike after them at all. note-they changed the testing back then. Quoting: JAZZz50 are winter is coldest from JAN to March.#'s were going down not up. i do think ppl travel less and shop less. so i think there is more to the equation. i do think in theory cold would help it spread more. have not seen that in reality thou. Which state are you in again? Generally speaking there were many states which had the early stages of a new wave in March/April. Then you had other states like Texas/California which saw a small uptick around that time, even if it wasn't really something that could be called a new wave. Maybe your area was one of those that saw a small uptick at that time also? |
JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 05/03/2021 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh say can un seee, OMAHA, Ocala,OREgon,octupuses. ....... scarey-ORION JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 05/03/2021 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) me? confusion count? which voice? NY on PA-NY state line.noo not NYC. i'm on the edge of the rocking chair-safe zone. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 05/03/2021 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) my county is like a small suberb. counties around me are even more rural. think deer hunting forests. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
CoronaCoaster
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Texan Buckeye
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CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 79134747 United Kingdom 05/03/2021 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Jazzz, sure some of the things you said must play some role in mitigating/preventing if that's what happened. But just to continue my thought... Seasonality can go as far back to November, December because althought UV and temp could play a role in slowing the virus it's also important to factor in people's behaviours such as spending more time inside. If the wave peaked in December from seasonality then I would say it doesn't necessarily mean you're going to see a guaranteed surge following right after that in Jan-Feb, because natural wave progression makes it harder to bring up another wave within such a tight period of time. Though an exception to that might be if a variant took off. |
CoronaCoaster
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Texan Buckeye
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Texan Buckeye
User ID: 22937658 United States 05/03/2021 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) ... Quoting: Texan Buckeye Too tired to make my brain work tonight. It's the only one that came to mind. Well, it was more than I could muster up. That's ok. You have a better handle on the science than I do. And look at all we accomplish.... together. That's right. |
CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 79134747 United Kingdom 05/03/2021 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Just had a look Jazzz NYC saw an uptick of a few hundred cases during March, but even without NYC the the rest of NY saw an uptick too. Not sure about how it was for your county, but yeah for NY outside of NYC it does seem like there was the early stages of the new wave during March. That wave came too late in the season to really take off though (going by seasonality theory). Last Edited by CoronaCoaster on 05/03/2021 11:09 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80008805 Singapore 05/04/2021 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) As Singapore is almost zero local transmission for quite sometimes until this round of mass infections, more evidence for airborne transmission in Singapore. Quoting: whitepiedtv Note: For full protection of airborne transmission, only N99 or P100 can protect you. [link to www.moh.gov.sg (secure)] Case 62638 is a 26 year-old female Singapore Permanent Resident who works as a cleaner employed by Exceltec Property Management Pte Ltd, and deployed at a community care facility at Tuas South. At work, she dons full personal protection equipment (PPE), including N95 mask, face shield, gown and gloves. She is a household contact of Case 62629 and a colleague of Case 62553. [link to www.moh.gov.sg (secure)] Case 62553 Case 62553 is a 39 year-old female Vietnam national who works as a cleaner employed by Octo Jet Building Maintenance Services Pte Ltd, and deployed at a community care facility at Tuas South. At work, she dons full personal protection equipment (PPE), including N95 mask, face shield, gown and gloves. She also periodically helps out at a food stall at The Summit located at the National University of Singapore’s Bukit Timah campus. Case 62553 received her first dose of COVID-19 vaccine on 27 January, and the second dose on 19 February. The COVID-19 vaccine is effective in preventing symptomatic disease for the vast majority of those vaccinated, but it is possible for vaccinated individuals to get infected. Thanks for the Singapore news. :-) No worry, thanks for maintaining this thread too :-) |