COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

and all this with the spectre of exponential growth

https://twitter.com/_/status/1405809002877947907

Data like that is going to cause gov to vac ovwr 12s.

It come soon enough

YAYYY lol thats my ends pffft ! Xx

Who's next after compulsory vaccines for healthcare workers? Teachers, police staff, retail workers? I can't see them stopping at healthcare workers. They want to get as many jabs into people as possible before the narrative completely falls apart.

Thank you! I've been trying to find that.

A total of 806 people in England have been admitted to hospital with the Delta variant of Covid-19 as of 14 June, new figures show.

This is a rise of 423 on the previous week, according to the data from Public Health England.



Of the 806 hospitalisations:

527 (65%) people were unvaccinated
135 (17%) were more than 21 days after their first dose of vaccine
84 (10%) were more than 14 days after their second dose.




As of 14 June, there have been 73 deaths in England of people who were confirmed as having the Delta variant and who died within 28 days of a positive test.


Of the 73 deaths:

34 (47%) were unvaccinated
10 (14%) were more than 21 days after their first dose of vaccine
26 (36%) were more than 14 days after their second dose.




Most covid deaths in UK with the Delta variant are happening in people who have been vaccinated than not vaccinated.

In the unvaccinated, 1 in every 15 hospitalizations results in a death

In the two-dose vaccinateds, 1 in every 3 hospitalizations results in a death

This doesn't give a full picture with what's going on with the vaccine though, like covid19sars2.0 said last week. The # of double vaccinateds are disproportionately made up by those at higher risk from acute infection so we're going to have to wait until more of the young adults are vaccinated to see what's what.

Having said that... A death in every 3 hospitalizations for the folks who have had two doses does seem high to me. I would be interested to see what the hospitalization-death ratio was of the higher age groups/higher risk groups during previous waves. I suspect it was similar to 1 in 3... not good.

I am not a big believe in seasonality as I stated before, but there does seem to be something to it.

We did have a wave in Dec/Jan/Feb (peak summer) but whilst it broke records from our winter wave (but first wave had super tight restrictions) it didnt seem to last that long.

So it may well be summer waves are not as bad as winter ones, and there is a seasonality effect.

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The influx of HIV (immuno-comprised people) makes me wonder how many mutation factories there are now running around here.


The government did some weak restriction tightening on Tuesday, curfew is an hour earlier, restaurants close an hour before that, no alcohol sales on Fri/Sat/Sun etc

But schools stay open.

My wife made a good point, she says she thinks this is a vaccine move. Teachers are next on list to be vaccinated (right now I think its health workers and over-60's).

If they close schools despite wanting to vaxx teachers they will be sending the message that getting vaxxed is pointless.

I think its more about human behaviour than seasons.

But yes the seasons cause the behaviour.

Cant speak for warm times.

But when its cold and wet you go inside you huddle outside to keep warm etc.

But look at the UK now. Weathers not cold or wet but cases going up.
So that points its not seasonal as well.

did CC2 read the main covid thread and post it all on this 1 today? sure looks like it. most of this is GLP news a year ago.

Are you sure we have left 2020 yet? Doesn't feel like it.

Vaccine failed. Only hit 47%

https://twitter.com/_/status/1405538528897880073

As a parent of a child with autism this one gets me a bit.. some data on child deaths

https://twitter.com/_/status/1405582347974631428

No, wait.. you can't get it again

https://twitter.com/_/status/1405555086667956229

The reinfection testing is a failure....

Unless they checked poop - there is an inherent normalcy bias going on. Folks are assuming that reinfection will occur and testing will always work.

So once again more deaths in the vac group
26% died in the vac group
About 6% from the unvac

But does show the drop in hosptial admissions.

Why tho?

This could get very bad for people who are vaccinated. You extrapolate those numbers across a 20 miillion thats been vaccinates you get significant deaths.


You cant reopen society