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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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How does this end? Does it ever end? Will the virus mutate down or is it going to get worse with every mutation? Does everyone catch it become weaker and then second or third infection die off? Is this going to be an E.L.E?


If it gets worse vaccines will fail and we will be back to square one.
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TPTB realize they flucked up so to fix it they turn everyone into cyborgs.well the 1% that is left alive anyhow.

this still rates as #2 on worst case scenarios.

#1> the guy that wins pushes the last nuke lnanch button.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


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501 u are now the blue jean channel
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Hmm can anyone make in sense about Indonesia went to high of 57k in 1 day then continued to drop fast. Then today was around 33k compared to 54k the pervious Wednesday epically strange unless these Asians are God's at taking down dieases
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It's a problem worldwide with mostly testing. Keep in mind that all reported cases require a PCR to be considered confirmed in most countries. So what happens when cases start to rise? More people need to be tested and in general more people will have close contacts with positive contacts. Demand for testing surges and countries tend to run out of supplies. As the time to actually get tested increases more and more people will actually get tested later on in their infection where a positive result is less likely. This will also decrease the demand for testing because it's perceived as useless, there is no point in knowing you where sick with covid last week but maybe got over it.

The confirmed number tends to work at the initial peak but loses correlation with actual infections as cases outnumber contact tracing ability and then testing capacity. These effects tend to be amplified in the developing world like Indonesia.
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gotcha thanks
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How does this end? Does it ever end? Will the virus mutate down or is it going to get worse with every mutation? Does everyone catch it become weaker and then second or third infection die off? Is this going to be an E.L.E?


If it gets worse vaccines will fail and we will be back to square one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80639677


Nobody knows how at this point. But it will end. There are strong indications that the effects of infection are very asymmetrical on the population overall. Main problem being that we cannot at this time which factors those are so we can use them to our advantage. Given that even if the virus does not adapt to us in a way that promotes symbiosis, we will. The caveat to that being it will come with great suffering and the chance of the virus overcoming the limitations that any innate protection some enjoy is present.

For now we are in a bit of holding pattern of hope and potential solutions. At any point we could solve this all but there is no guarantee it will happen. Accepting that Covid-19 will be a significant cause of death for the foreseeable future seems unavoidable.
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when the mammals all die , won't we b back to the land of dinos? technically reptiles will rule once more. hmmmmmm
JAZZZ50

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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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How does this end? Does it ever end? Will the virus mutate down or is it going to get worse with every mutation? Does everyone catch it become weaker and then second or third infection die off? Is this going to be an E.L.E?


If it gets worse vaccines will fail and we will be back to square one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80639677


Nobody knows how at this point. But it will end. There are strong indications that the effects of infection are very asymmetrical on the population overall. Main problem being that we cannot at this time which factors those are so we can use them to our advantage. Given that even if the virus does not adapt to us in a way that promotes symbiosis, we will. The caveat to that being it will come with great suffering and the chance of the virus overcoming the limitations that any innate protection some enjoy is present.

For now we are in a bit of holding pattern of hope and potential solutions. At any point we could solve this all but there is no guarantee it will happen. Accepting that Covid-19 will be a significant cause of death for the foreseeable future seems unavoidable.
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The dang aliens that made us if they didn't forget to turn off the aging process pretty much nobody would have died from this just saying
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How does this end? Does it ever end? Will the virus mutate down or is it going to get worse with every mutation? Does everyone catch it become weaker and then second or third infection die off? Is this going to be an E.L.E?


If it gets worse vaccines will fail and we will be back to square one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80639677


Nobody knows how at this point. But it will end. There are strong indications that the effects of infection are very asymmetrical on the population overall. Main problem being that we cannot at this time which factors those are so we can use them to our advantage. Given that even if the virus does not adapt to us in a way that promotes symbiosis, we will. The caveat to that being it will come with great suffering and the chance of the virus overcoming the limitations that any innate protection some enjoy is present.

For now we are in a bit of holding pattern of hope and potential solutions. At any point we could solve this all but there is no guarantee it will happen. Accepting that Covid-19 will be a significant cause of death for the foreseeable future seems unavoidable.
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clappa
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How does this end? Does it ever end? Will the virus mutate down or is it going to get worse with every mutation? Does everyone catch it become weaker and then second or third infection die off? Is this going to be an E.L.E?


If it gets worse vaccines will fail and we will be back to square one.
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Listen the sec this Biological Weapon was released the WORLD ended. It’s a E.LE. understand it will take Time to see bump
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Did I miss something, we were told breakthrough covid and spreading the virus was very rare, nearly impossible. Several months ago, they even said you cannot spread covid if vaccinated.

We just had an experiment with those Democrat traveling to DC, looks like out of those who traveled, the vaccinated spread the virus aggressively…I think at least 50% infected from one flight plus those who met with them!

CDC announced return to normal for those vaccinated, they went out and partied, they got infected and spread the virus rapidly, most without symptoms but exposure for some was high…although, limiting short term death, the vaccinated are ending up in the hospital in large numbers…

The unvaccinated have no chance against the irresponsible actions of the vaccinated who could care less stopping this disaster…the saddest is the kids who can’t get vaccinated and are at great risk from vaccinated carrying and spreading Delta!

Wake up, the majority of the unvaccinated are still being cautious as noted here on GLP. But with all the vaccinated gatherings, events, parties…god help us all!
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How does this end? Does it ever end? Will the virus mutate down or is it going to get worse with every mutation? Does everyone catch it become weaker and then second or third infection die off? Is this going to be an E.L.E?


If it gets worse vaccines will fail and we will be back to square one.
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Listen the sec this Biological Weapon was released the WORLD ended. It’s a E.LE. understand it will take Time to see bump
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Meh.. has long as there is two males and two females in each continent would survive its not a e le.. odds are humans would survive in your vision
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How does this end? Does it ever end? Will the virus mutate down or is it going to get worse with every mutation? Does everyone catch it become weaker and then second or third infection die off? Is this going to be an E.L.E?
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At one point in human history, there was a genetic chokepoint where the total population dropped down to less than 10,000 people.

Yet... we're still here. COVID might be the end of the world as we know it, shit... that's pretty much already happened.

But I don't think it's going to be the end of mankind.
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Did I miss something, we were told breakthrough covid and spreading the virus was very rare, nearly impossible. Several months ago, they even said you cannot spread covid if vaccinated.

We just had an experiment with those Democrat traveling to DC, looks like out of those who traveled, the vaccinated spread the virus aggressively…I think at least 50% infected from one flight plus those who met with them!

CDC announced return to normal for those vaccinated, they went out and partied, they got infected and spread the virus rapidly, most without symptoms but exposure for some was high…although, limiting short term death, the vaccinated are ending up in the hospital in large numbers…

The unvaccinated have no chance against the irresponsible actions of the vaccinated who could care less stopping this disaster…the saddest is the kids who can’t get vaccinated and are at great risk from vaccinated carrying and spreading Delta!

Wake up, the majority of the unvaccinated are still being cautious as noted here on GLP. But with all the vaccinated gatherings, events, parties…god help us all!
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This is extremely well said, AC. It's accurate as fuck. They're partying and acting like idiots. We were told the vaccine stopped transmission. A bunch of assholes.
1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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How does this end? Does it ever end? Will the virus mutate down or is it going to get worse with every mutation? Does everyone catch it become weaker and then second or third infection die off? Is this going to be an E.L.E?
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At one point in human history, there was a genetic chokepoint where the total population dropped down to less than 10,000 people.

Yet... we're still here. COVID might be the end of the world as we know it, shit... that's pretty much already happened.

But I don't think it's going to be the end of mankind.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Correct. The fallout will be catastrophic, though.
1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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Did I miss something, we were told breakthrough covid and spreading the virus was very rare, nearly impossible. Several months ago, they even said you cannot spread covid if vaccinated.
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This was true for the most part before Delta.

The government hasn't changed their tune since because they still want people to get vaccinated so that the hospitals don't get over-run.

People are stupid, I think they've got a good plan.
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Did I miss something, we were told breakthrough covid and spreading the virus was very rare, nearly impossible. Several months ago, they even said you cannot spread covid if vaccinated.
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This was true for the most part before Delta.

The government hasn't changed their tune since because they still want people to get vaccinated so that the hospitals don't get over-run.

People are stupid, I think they've got a good plan.
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The data was shaky before. It wasn't officially a metric for the vaccine trails at any point.
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How does this end? Does it ever end? Will the virus mutate down or is it going to get worse with every mutation? Does everyone catch it become weaker and then second or third infection die off? Is this going to be an E.L.E?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80639677


At one point in human history, there was a genetic chokepoint where the total population dropped down to less than 10,000 people.

Yet... we're still here. COVID might be the end of the world as we know it, shit... that's pretty much already happened.

But I don't think it's going to be the end of mankind.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Word

Thought about when Mr. Rodgers died it was all over

Neighborhood done went to shit

Fuck a bunch of neighbors

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How does this end? Does it ever end? Will the virus mutate down or is it going to get worse with every mutation? Does everyone catch it become weaker and then second or third infection die off? Is this going to be an E.L.E?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80639677


At one point in human history, there was a genetic chokepoint where the total population dropped down to less than 10,000 people.

Yet... we're still here. COVID might be the end of the world as we know it, shit... that's pretty much already happened.

But I don't think it's going to be the end of mankind.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Word

Thought about when Mr. Rodgers died it was all over

Neighborhood done went to shit

Fuck a bunch of neighbors

poker
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The inept actions of back and forth science and protective measures by the experts and scientists in the government, CDC, FDA…the deadly consequences of the vaccinated, deniers of covid…have not assured herd immunity, it has assured herd infection…

Weather your are vaccinated or unvaccinated, the spread and global infection of everyone is nearly assured over the next few months/year.

Please note: While I do agree with those waiting to see completion of long term safety of the mRNA vaccines and those who have legitimate concerns over an experimental vaccine unproven in long term studies/safety.

At this point, unless you have a bunker for 6 months plus, you now have no choice but to get the vaccine and pray 2 years from now, the vaccine is safe…god forbid we learn the vaccine turns out it results in 75% death from some adverse reaction.
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Did I miss something, we were told breakthrough covid and spreading the virus was very rare, nearly impossible. Several months ago, they even said you cannot spread covid if vaccinated.
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This was true for the most part before Delta.
 Quoting: WatchingWatchers

The data was shaky before. It wasn't officially a metric for the vaccine trails at any point.
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I don't know, it's pretty hard to reconcile how Texas was able to fully open 4 months ago and spend this whole time acting like COVID wasn't a thing without a problem until Delta, and say that the vaccines didn't kick the shit out of the earlier variants.

Hell, the entire spring 2020 outbreak only lasted 2 months and Texas re-opened when they still had 7,000 cases per day.
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...

This was true for the most part before Delta.
 Quoting: WatchingWatchers

The data was shaky before. It wasn't officially a metric for the vaccine trails at any point.
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I don't know, it's pretty hard to reconcile how Texas was able to fully open 4 months ago and spend this whole time acting like COVID wasn't a thing without a problem until Delta, and say that the vaccines didn't kick the shit out of the earlier variants.

Hell, the entire spring 2020 outbreak only lasted 2 months and Texas re-opened when they still had 7,000 cases per day.
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I didn't say that, why is it showing i did?
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...

This was true for the most part before Delta.
 Quoting: WatchingWatchers

The data was shaky before. It wasn't officially a metric for the vaccine trails at any point.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


I don't know, it's pretty hard to reconcile how Texas was able to fully open 4 months ago and spend this whole time acting like COVID wasn't a thing without a problem until Delta, and say that the vaccines didn't kick the shit out of the earlier variants.

Hell, the entire spring 2020 outbreak only lasted 2 months and Texas re-opened when they still had 7,000 cases per day.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


I'm not arguing that the vaccine's did nothing to slow the spread, only that the notion of them somehow stopping all spread seemed to be assumed for no good reason.

And keep in mind that most people are rational. You don't need to mandate things for people to adhere to the basic principle's behind them. You can significantly reduce spread if people know and are willing to isolate when presenting with certain symptoms. Combine that with proper contact tracing and you can easily cut off enough transmission to stabilize the situation.

The problem tends to arise that as the stabilizes the seriousness of the issue seems to wade and investment in containment, contact tracing etc, goes down. Add in the occasional new variant and we're just riding a rollercoaster up and down where we contain enough to get to the next big scare.
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I don't know, it's pretty hard to reconcile how Texas was able to fully open 4 months ago and spend this whole time acting like COVID wasn't a thing without a problem until Delta, and say that the vaccines didn't kick the shit out of the earlier variants.
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Correlation is not causation.

Mexico's cases were in decline for pretty much all of the same period of time as Texas' cases were. During that time Mexico's doubly vaxxed % never went higher than single digit.

hmm

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I didn't say that, why is it showing i did?
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Something buggy with the quotes.
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South America decline 528,184 last 7 day trend vs 614,0346 pervious 7days. -14% deaths 15,946 vs pervious 7days 18,238 -13%

Africa is -10% because they are used to fighting diseases every year
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Did I miss something, we were told breakthrough covid and spreading the virus was very rare, nearly impossible. Several months ago, they even said you cannot spread covid if vaccinated.

We just had an experiment with those Democrat traveling to DC, looks like out of those who traveled, the vaccinated spread the virus aggressively…I think at least 50% infected from one flight plus those who met with them!

CDC announced return to normal for those vaccinated, they went out and partied, they got infected and spread the virus rapidly, most without symptoms but exposure for some was high…although, limiting short term death, the vaccinated are ending up in the hospital in large numbers…

The unvaccinated have no chance against the irresponsible actions of the vaccinated who could care less stopping this disaster…the saddest is the kids who can’t get vaccinated and are at great risk from vaccinated carrying and spreading Delta!

Wake up, the majority of the unvaccinated are still being cautious as noted here on GLP. But with all the vaccinated gatherings, events, parties…god help us all!
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Yeah, I fully see this in action. I actually know a couple of unvaccinated folks who are being careless as hell, though. One person in our friends group, who has become an antivaxxer recently, declared that she was "over" this pandemic because it wasn't any fun. My roommate discovered this when they met up recently... and (thank goodness) my roommate refused to remove her mask for their entire visit, and will not see said person again.

My suspicion is that it is largely vaxxed people who are driving the recent spread ... and I think we have the CDC to blame for that, at least in part. These are people who listened to the MSM news, and heard that it was safe for them to unmask, and that was that. Fauci and his mouthpieces were indeed saying that breakthrough infections were rare, and that vaxxed people couldn't transmit the virus, or at least that it was very rare.

People wanted to hear that, and now they don't want to hear that said information was straight up BS. It's going to be very difficult to get vaxxed people to mask up again, I think.
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vax is over hyped. it was never the logical choice for all of mankind. those odds would fail.

let's look at some facts.

fact according to the MSM and CDC> half the US pop above X age are vaxed.

if TX is vaxed at that 50%,which would b highly unusual for a covservative red state, then that translates to 50% cut in spread and cases. this based on what we have been told.

yet cases have fallen way more than that. they fell too soon to b caused by the double shot vax. and TX is importing ppl from the border which should drive the rates up.

hence, it is obvious that the vaccine alone did not cause the drops in cases. so there is more to this than the vax. do the vaccines help lower hospitalizations in those infected? argumentative. do they delay death in the immune compromised? again-debatable. but saying the vax slowed spread, they admit and we have seen evidence against that, and that the vax has stopped covid and lowered cases is a lie.

what we know is viruses mutate. generally they mutate to b less deadly. it is possible the version in the US did that. this is a bio-lab virus. so even thou it may mutate down it can mutate up to b more lethal. the virus isn't 1 cell, any of the billions of cells that left CHINA could go in many directions. and so far some have shown to do just that.

even now a year and a half later, our borders are wide flucking open. we ain't trying to stop anything. even if the US version is not deadly, we can bring 1 in yesterday that is. we ain't too smart if we didn't figure that out in 18 months. or we really do not want to stop it. u decide for yourself. man with the gun says he has cookies. u should not eat them.
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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I think this sums up where we are at in the pandemic….one of the best sci-fi movie lines…

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Did I miss something, we were told breakthrough covid and spreading the virus was very rare, nearly impossible. Several months ago, they even said you cannot spread covid if vaccinated.

We just had an experiment with those Democrat traveling to DC, looks like out of those who traveled, the vaccinated spread the virus aggressively…I think at least 50% infected from one flight plus those who met with them!

CDC announced return to normal for those vaccinated, they went out and partied, they got infected and spread the virus rapidly, most without symptoms but exposure for some was high…although, limiting short term death, the vaccinated are ending up in the hospital in large numbers…

The unvaccinated have no chance against the irresponsible actions of the vaccinated who could care less stopping this disaster…the saddest is the kids who can’t get vaccinated and are at great risk from vaccinated carrying and spreading Delta!

Wake up, the majority of the unvaccinated are still being cautious as noted here on GLP. But with all the vaccinated gatherings, events, parties…god help us all!
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You didn't miss anything

The Vaccines are worthless

Cognitive dissonance is in charge once again.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
I am super behind on this thread, and will try to catch up later this evening.

It's clear that shit is starting to hit the fan in the US, and CA is on its way to being a big hot-spot again.

I'm continuing to isolate as much as I can, and I mask up when I go out. Since my pharmacy is no longer requiring masks (and there were a lot of unmasked folks in there when I went in last) I think I will start double-masking again when I need to go to an indoor setting.

Some of my friends think I am being paranoid, and I may end up losing some friendships over this ... but so be it.

I'm very glad that immunocompromised groups (transplant patients, cancer patients, others) are starting to speak out in greater numbers. It may still fall on deaf ears, but for those who listen, it might drive home the fact that there are MILLIONS of immuncompromised folks out there who are not housebound, not in nursing homes, etc., and who would love to be able to have something of a normal life. Having shit tons of unmasked carriers running around makes that nearly impossible.

I've scheuled an antibody test a week from Friday, which should show whether I developed any antibodies to the vax (specifically, to the spike protein, which is what I would develop if the vaccine worked on me.)

I don't really know what to expect from that. I reacted to both shots, and the second one really hit me hard. I'm finally (3 weeks later) starting to feel a bit more normal (my normal, that is) -- but that doesn't mean the vaccine worked. It may just have kicked up my chronic issues, and otherwise been ineffective.

At least I will have a test result to haul out in my own defense if I didn't make antibodies. I've found that people are a lot more likely to believe you if you have a test result to back up what you are saying ... and if I don't have antibodies, I can use that to support my need for disability accomodations at work (meaning working remotely.) I don't think I would have gotten very far if I tried claiming the medical vax exemtption ... but if I can show that I got vaxxed, and it didn't work, then they are treading on dangerous ground if they don't accomodate me. Sometimes the ADA is a very good thing.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
i gave u my theories along the way.

based on those and logic, i can tell u where we are going.
the virus has mutated. it skipped over healthy ppl with the original. DELTA is not doing that. it is infecting the young. this is typical of viruses. look up the Spanish Flu. now not all young ppl are healthy. and we know this virus targets DNA and what might affect u later in life. so many young will die.

as young healthy ppl are infected, they will spread it back to the immune compromised again. round 2 for them could b a death sentence. and on top of those 2 death #'s add the ppl who are vaxed and running around "bullet proof" that were hiding during wave 1. X timnes 3.

that would occur normally with a virus. add DELTA which is more contagious to that.this is the giant wave that is coming as ppl are sleeping soundly behind Dr Frankenstein.

after that wave, the dust settles and the world wakes to "vax failed". and i explained in my PHASE thread what will be. ppl let down their guard, it looks over. planes are still flying and ppl walk in from South of us. it only takes 1 bad mutation to cause a world wide kill varient.by the time they know it and tell us, it will b everywhere. we couldn't keep Ebola out,covid,monkey pox. u think they have a chance to stop ZEUS? it will come quickly. the spread thus far has been slow. super slow. the wave now to fall is faster. the next or main will b stunningly fast. they won't warn u like this time.


and i still didn't tell u how the President changes happens or when or how they implemnt the campuses. u ain't seen nothing yet. this is a mud puddle. a tsunami is coming.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.





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