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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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You all want to be hoarding Ivermectin. When the word gets to the mainstream, there will be pandemonium.
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Uncle, I LOVE the optimism there... about WHEN the word gets out, not if.

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Covid doom break...for...more other doom



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Greenland: enough ice melted on single day to cover Florida in two inches of water

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I was ignoring that. The gyre ain’t gonna like that....
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Greenland got Her Groove Back

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And that's how you fix the housing crisis.
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:circles:

Next mutations.... 4 to 6 weeks after this shit escapes the hospital.

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Dosha... sometime you have to remove the middle guts of Imgur and do a preview.

So remove /gallery or /funny etc.

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Ah crap. Another media outlet goes with vaccines create variants


 Quoting: lightning1977


So that's two media outlets saying the same thing today. But keep pushing it! WTF

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Kinda makes my head want to explode. The dual opposite messaging is crazy making.

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I really disappointed in how the long term risks are not being discussed. And that one & done is out there....

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Bret Weinstein agrees...

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BretWeinstein: Lots of excitement about this CNN piece. I'm not so excited because it's based on a computer model rather than empirical evidence. But if it means we can start a serious discussion of the evolutionary interplay between vaccines, the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, that's v. good [link to twitter.com (secure)]
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Oh. Oh. Oh. UK case decline keeps slowing.

The week on week decreases have been -50%, -40%, -22% and today -18%. Cases could be increasing again in a week or two if this keeps up.





 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


I highly suspected that Covid is coming in waves (or it runs out of people to infect until the next wave), it is very clear in Worldometer main page and even when zoomed into individual countries, most showed the same patterns.

https://imgur.com/5CZCcj4


https://imgur.com/0QAHpf5

 Quoting: whitepiedtv


I posted the latest official UK weekly infection survey a couple of pages back. Here it is again.

[link to www.ons.gov.uk (secure)]

This is almost certainly a better guide to the current levels of infection in the UK than the daily cases numbers.

The weekly survey mails swabs to tens of thousands of random UK residents and asks them to return the swabs after use. Today’s weekly results show that the UK epidemic continues to grow.

The daily case numbers do not reflect what’s occurring in the UK. Many symptomatic people are not going for testing, and many people who test positive have deleted the test and trace app, or are refusing to co-operate with the track and trace staff when asked to name their close contacts
 Quoting: Diffster

The difference between the troughs and crests are getting bigger. Why does this virus wax and wane? “We have chosen to fill our hives with honey and wax; thus furnishing mankind with the two noblest of things, which are sweetness and light.” Jonathan Swift. Instead of tearing us apart, could this virus bring humanity together, to fight a common enemy?
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Oh FFS
1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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Riverside County is doing terrible.

We have pockets of those who believe wearing a mask is a constitutional sin and others who must congregate and party every weekend and then those who are vaxed and believe they are safe to do the aforementioned. Deja vu

https://imgur.com/a/My1vQ1U


I am grateful for GLP and these threads because I'd probably burst if I had no outlet and drive the hubby insane too.

Hope everyone has a safe - peaceful - happy weekend.

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1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
You either get to movement of almost no one but the backbone of society after a 28 day full lockdown.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Countries have already tried that, it didn't work.

Everything looks good after 28 days, then someone fingerbangs a pangolin and we're right back where we started.

:pangolin:
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Ah crap. Another media outlet goes with vaccines create variants


 Quoting: lightning1977


So that's two media outlets saying the same thing today. But keep pushing it! WTF

wtf-eagle
 Quoting: Vego




[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Diffster


SAGE paper

[link to www.gov.uk (secure)]
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You either get to movement of almost no one but the backbone of society after a 28 day full lockdown.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Countries have already tried that, it didn't work.

Everything looks good after 28 days, then someone fingerbangs a pangolin and we're right back where we started.

:pangolin:
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


No. No one has done this with full and proper care.

But thanks for failing to acknowledge the way more accurate analogy.

/snark for life on this issue/
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Ah crap. Another media outlet goes with vaccines create variants


 Quoting: lightning1977


So that's two media outlets saying the same thing today. But keep pushing it! WTF

wtf-eagle
 Quoting: Vego




[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Diffster


verydamned

Echoes of Vanden Bossche again...




Article also mentions the recombination of the SA variant which CC suggested last week.


A doomsday new Covid variant that could kill UP TO one in three people is a realistic possibility, according to the Government's top scientists.

Documents published by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) today warned a future strain could be as deadly as MERS — which which has a case fatality rate of 35 per cent — could be on the way.

No10's expert panel It said the likelihood of the virus mutating is highest when it is most prevalent — as is currently the case in Britain.

And a downside of Britain's hugely successful vaccine drive, it appears the country's greater levels of immunity could help speed up the process.


Scientists unveiled the threat of a super mutant variant in a paper looking at potential scenarios that could emerge in the not-so-distant future.

Experts said a future strain could be resistant to vaccines if it came about by the jab-resistant South Africa Beta variant combining with the more transmissible Kent Alpha or 'India' Delta variants.

The process — known as recombination — could lead to a strain with increased morbidity and mortality.

The team admitted vaccines should work unless there was an extra-potent mutation that rendered jabs much less effective at blocking serious disease — which many experts say is unlikely.

But they said the extra lethality would be expected even in the face of vaccination since vaccines do not provide absolute sterilising immunity.

The prospect of a deadlier variant is a realistic possibility and would have a huge impact on the UK's death toll moving forward, the scientists said.


less than 50% [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


hiding

If the vaccine does not prevent a new variant from minimizing hospitalizations, the vaccine becomes worthless. To me, the reduction in hospitalizations is the only % that counts. Everything else is just fluff. Do I care if I get infected, no. Do I care if am laid up in my own house as sick as a dog, no. Do I care if I have to be hospitalized, gasping for every breath, thinking it might be my last, and wracking up horrendous hospital bills for my family? YES. I. DO. .... So far, as of July 30th, 2021, “Almost everyone hospitalized with COVID-19 in LA County is unvaccinated; in the month of June, 92% of those hospitalized with COVID-19 were unvaccinated,”. [link to nypost.com (secure)]
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Oh FFS
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Mass chaos and desperation incoming.
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...


So that's two media outlets saying the same thing today. But keep pushing it! WTF

:wtf-eagle:
 Quoting: Vego




[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Diffster


:verydamned:

Echoes of Vanden Bossche again...




Article also mentions the recombination of the SA variant which CC suggested last week.


A doomsday new Covid variant that could kill UP TO one in three people is a realistic possibility, according to the Government's top scientists.

Documents published by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) today warned a future strain could be as deadly as MERS — which which has a case fatality rate of 35 per cent — could be on the way.

No10's expert panel It said the likelihood of the virus mutating is highest when it is most prevalent — as is currently the case in Britain.

And a downside of Britain's hugely successful vaccine drive, it appears the country's greater levels of immunity could help speed up the process.


Scientists unveiled the threat of a super mutant variant in a paper looking at potential scenarios that could emerge in the not-so-distant future.

Experts said a future strain could be resistant to vaccines if it came about by the jab-resistant South Africa Beta variant combining with the more transmissible Kent Alpha or 'India' Delta variants.

The process — known as recombination — could lead to a strain with increased morbidity and mortality.

The team admitted vaccines should work unless there was an extra-potent mutation that rendered jabs much less effective at blocking serious disease — which many experts say is unlikely.

But they said the extra lethality would be expected even in the face of vaccination since vaccines do not provide absolute sterilising immunity.

The prospect of a deadlier variant is a realistic possibility and would have a huge impact on the UK's death toll moving forward, the scientists said.


less than 50% [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


hiding

If the vaccine does not prevent a new variant from minimizing hospitalizations, the vaccine becomes worthless. To me, the reduction in hospitalizations is the only % that counts. Everything else is just fluff. Do I care if I get infected, no. Do I care if am laid up in my own house as sick as a dog, no. Do I care if I have to be hospitalized, gasping for every breath, thinking it might be my last, and wracking up horrendous hospital bills for my family? YES. I. DO. .... So far, as of July 30th, 2021, “Almost everyone hospitalized with COVID-19 in LA County is unvaccinated; in the month of June, 92% of those hospitalized with COVID-19 were unvaccinated,”. [link to nypost.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Lago


Most people do not head to the hospital for symptoms that are basically flu-like - perhaps a bit more severe - but still in that realm. This is especially true in the more benign summer viral season. However, Fall and Winter are just around the corner and with the vaxed testing positive already - at least those they bother to - we may be facing a complete catastrophe in the making. With hundreds of thousands of the vaccinated being maimed by the shot - with a range of severity, of course - how will they fare in the more stringent viral months that are coming? I suspect the 'authorities' know very well it's going to get bad - quickly.
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No. No one has done this with full and proper care.

But thanks for failing to acknowledge the way more accurate analogy.

/snark for life on this issue/
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Because you can't do it will full and proper care.

About 5 days in, a black person will decide they don't like lockdowns and get themselves shot.

Then all the major cities will be set on fire, and things will be worse than they are now.

Society does not have an off switch.

An effective federal contact tracing agency would be a thousand times more effective, as much as I don't like the idea.

Sure, the psychopaths on the main page of GLP would lose their fucking minds... but at least in that case it would be white people getting shot and nobody cares about that.
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Moderna's the Shit

Cha Ching'

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Biden's been dumping Covid+ Illegals in Southern States

Branson was Ground Zero

How a Tiny Town With an Anti-Mask Mayor Caused COVID Chaos

[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]

‘What’s your breaking point?’: Over 300 hospitalized in SW Missouri — including kids

[link to www.kansascity.com (secure)]

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No. No one has done this with full and proper care.

But thanks for failing to acknowledge the way more accurate analogy.

/snark for life on this issue/
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Because you can't do it will full and proper care.

About 5 days in, a black person will decide they don't like lockdowns and get themselves shot.

Then all the major cities will be set on fire, and things will be worse than they are now.

Society does not have an off switch.

An effective federal contact tracing agency would be a thousand times more effective, as much as I don't like the idea.

Sure, the psychopaths on the main page of GLP would lose their fucking minds... but at least in that case it would be white people getting shot and nobody cares about that.
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Oh my gods. The analogy. Not the needed outcomes. Those are impossible.

Focus.
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BREAKING: Marion School District confirms 168 students, 3 employees in quarantine after starting school Monday due to possible COVID-19 exposure. More below ⤵️

➡️ 7 students, 3 employees positive for COVID-19
➡️ 10 students, 15 employees not in quarantine because of vaccination

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Biden and governors will never do another lockdown. Guaranteed. The mammon is too much of a motivator.
1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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Stinger away....

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A super spreader story in action... and thumper thinks my research game is weak.





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Continued and now dog spread too...







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And that's how you fix the housing crisis.
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cruisewuflu

I shouldn't laugh...but really its funny cuz its true

What a shit show if THIS is what makes me laugh

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And that's how you fix the housing crisis.
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cruisewuflu

I shouldn't laugh...but really its funny cuz its true

What a shit show if THIS is what makes me laugh

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Did you not make it to the super spreader tweets then.... it’s epic. I was roaring at the complete lack of understanding of how this virus moves.





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