COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

It is impossible to lockdown Black Americans. Last summer proved that and history proves it. Now, as for cajoling them to get the shot, well, they won't be able to do that either with any degree of success.

Beyond those dynamics, they are also the population who will be most impacted with 'no vax- no service-no job' mandates that are being enacted. What does that mean? It means the cities that are already on edge are about to be pushed over the edge.

in the documentary film "BLACKOUT", the ppl did it not govern. just went home, turned lights off.

That’s not what I was referring too. He took that and ran instead of acknowledging nothing works from here on out.

Too stupid and selfish as a whole soceity.

Except the summer viral production period is always more benign and antibodies produced in the bodies of those who virally produce in the summer months and in response to those environmental conditions and triggers cannot count on that to protect them in the Winter where an entirely different set of conditions act as triggers for different kinds of viral production.

Now, they certainly could rebrand to the flu if they wanted to - ducking having to face the failure of the vax to prevent anything - then shifting to blaming people for not getting their flu shot as to why they're all sick again.

They have many twists and turns they can utilize to keep the Agenda going...

Nice fantasy. This next round is going to produce more variants than you can shake and bake too.

Regenron and other antibody treatments are reintroduced.

Israel is doing 3rd shots.

And masks are optional in most of the US.

But yeah.... that’s a nice daydream.

Oh. That’s twisted.

What you probably mean to say is that we got the grind down date wrong because it didn’t match some 10 year from date that I swear someone yelled about 10 months straight. I just can’t put my finger on it.

But no. Keep dismissing it as sniffles... that is just what a eugenics person would do.

And nope. Times up. The end of the eviction moratorium doesn’t just effect rentals. It is foreclosures as well. They can be removed as well now.

Destabilizing force.

This wave , in the US, is just getting started. And continued no real PPE, vacations, and a healthy dose of FREEDUMB....

TIME. IS. UP.

Too bad you don’t wanna discuss actual driving forces.

I listed 3.

Oh. That’s right. It’s just the sniffles. Geeze, I wonder who thinks this thing is just a small bug? /s/

Okay. You do those things. See you soon.

In the mean time.... crowd control begins. So no mandate to get the shot, but that does not speak to the vaccine pass concept. Which is worthless by November.

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The problem is traffic is still flowing in and outta the hot zones... so their problem is everyone’s problem.

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Here come the insurance moves.

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In December 2021 there will be a new COVID-19 variant that have the same symptoms of rabies so governments have to put in place military around the world

So I said at some point waves will get closer and closer.... India is already concerned about the next wave.

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You can't lock down red baseball capped idiots, either. We saw lots of rallies last year, nary a mask in sight, all running around looking like idiots in their over sized trucks.

Who wants todo the maths .
40 people
30 caught it
7 sick
2 dead.

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30 people in a 40 bed unit.

7 caught it

Last Edited by Roughwildfly on 07/31/2021 06:49 AM

That's sounds like 82% effective against symptomatic illness to me.

Pretty good for a bunch of people who could be killed by a strong breeze.

I found this article from April 2020 where there were 31 cases in a nursing home and 9 deaths, and that was with a much weaker strain.

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OK, even with the revised numbers that's 77% protection.

And teaching the virus to evade vaccine-derived antibodies by NOT STOPPING TRANSMISSION.

Storing up problems...

Oh, and the LT effects of vaccine? Anyone?

A few questions I think we all need to ask......

ME: UK gov, should I get vaccinated if I already had Covid?
UK gov: “Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had
C0VID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from C0VID-19.”
ME: Oh, okay, we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts. Got it. So, how long does vaccine-induced immunity last?
Uk gov: “There is still a lot we are learning about C0VID-l9 vaccines and we are constantly reviewing evidence and updating guidance. We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are vaccinated.”
Me: Okay … but wait a second. I thought you said the reason I need the vaccine was because we don’t know how long my natural immunity lasts, but it seems like you’re saying we ALSO don’t know how long vaccine immunity lasts either. So, how exactly is the vaccine immunity better than my natural immunity?
UK gov: …
Me: Uh … alright. But, haven’t there been a bunch of studies suggesting that natural immunity could last for years or decades?
UK gov: Yes. Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study.
ME: Ah. So natural immunity might last longer than vaccine immunity?
Uk gov: Possibly. You never know.
ME: Okay. If I get the vaccine, does that mean I won’t get sick?
Uk gov: Nope. We are just now entering a seasonal spike and about half of our infections and hospital admissions are vaccinated people.
ME: is this true? Are there a lot of people in the U.K. catching Covid after getting the jab?
David Javid: over 60%
ME: Oh, okay. Hmm. Well, if I can still get sick after I get the vaccine, how is it helping me?
Uk gov: We never said you wouldn’t get sick. We said it would reduce your chances of serious illness or death.
ME: Oh, sorry. Alright, exactly how much does it reduce my chance of serious illness or death.
Uk gov: We don’t know “exactly, we think we've saved over 50,000 lives, but we haven't got any evidence of this.
ME: Oh. Then what’s your best estimate for how much risk reduction there is?
Uk gov: We don’t know, okay? Next question.
ME: Um, if I’m healthy and don’t want the vaccine, is there any reason I should get it?
Uk gov: Yes, for the collective and to be allowed to dance at a night club (for now)
ME: How does the collective benefit from me getting vaccinated?
Uk gov: Because you could spread the virus to someone else who might get sick and die.
ME: Can a vaccinated person spread the virus to someone else?
Uk gov: Yes.
ME: So if I get vaccinated, I could still spread the virus to someone else?
Uk gov: Yes.
ME: But I thought you just said, the REASON I should get vaccinated was to prevent me spreading the virus? How does that make sense if I can still catch Covid and spread it after getting the vaccine?
Uk gov: Never mind that. The other thing is, if you stay unvaccinated, there’s a chance the virus could possibly mutate into a strain that escapes the vaccine’s protection, putting all vaccinated people at risk.
ME: So the vaccine stops the virus from mutating?
Uk gov: No.
ME: So it can still mutate in vaccinated people?
Uk gov: Yes.
ME: Sorry but this seems confusing. If the vaccine doesn’t stop mutations, and it doesn’t stop infections, then how does me getting vaccinated help prevent a more deadly strain from evolving to escape the vaccine?
Uk gov: You aren’t listening, okay? The bottom line is: as long as you are unvaccinated, you pose a threat to vaccinated people.
ME: But what KIND of threat??
Uk gov: The threat that they could get a serious case of Covid and possibly die.
ME: My brain hurts. Didn’t you JUST say that the vaccine doesn’t keep people from catching Covid, but prevents a serious case or dying? Now it seems like you’re saying vaccinated people can still easily die from Covid even after they got the vaccine just by running into an unvaccinated person! Which is it??
Uk gov: Your just obviously an antivaxxer!
ME: Wait! I just want to make sure I understand all this. So, even if I ALREADY had Covid, I should STILL get vaccinated, because we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts, and we also don’t know how long vaccine immunity lasts. And I should get the vaccine to keep a vaccinated person from catching Covid from me, but even if I get the vaccine, I can give it to the vaccinated person anyways. And, the other vaccinated person can still easily catch a serious case of Covid from me and die. Do I have all that right?

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Pretty sure people in nursing homes could give a flying fuck about long term effects.

Oh you think that’s funny....

We now have two extremely polarized sides that are both mishandling the messages and how they do it

AT THE SAME TIME.

And unfortunately they are both wrong. The levels of cognitive dissonance when folks can’t get the basics .... the blame game is gonna get uglier with the rage virus burning through.

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You’re back. Shocker. What? Where’s the 10 year plan?

Now. It’s here now. The vaccine passport.

And I wasn’t talking about a vaccine mandate. I was talking about the pass system. So much more sly.

Still makes it your choice but controls your freedoms.

And when Texas and Florida run out of medical resources.... their folks will e begging for help.

NHS .... I am sorry.

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South Africa entering its next wave. The waves are closer this time.

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Interesting....

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UK is ready for their vaccine passes.... get them now. /s/

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Oh. Really.

This should be a bizarre few months...

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