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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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Moderna's the Shit

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whatever
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LAGO we did hear bout it. u think the ppl with clots recovered? some will b n meds the rest of their lives.once u get clots,the risk is great that u will get them again. meaning u can get them and die or just pnemonia and need the hospital. and those are lucky ppl. others have the clots blow up causing damage in their brains. strokes have happened as well.

now does it happen to everyone that took the vax? i can't say that. could it over 5 years? is it damaging brain functions as the prion posters say? again, will take time for that to come out.

what we do know is the vax was pumped up full of hype. it sure doesn't work as well as they said. too many lies leads to more conjecture. the virus and vax as far as we know reacts to ppl differently due to that person's own DNA makeup. hence, we have no idea who will react how. the risk to LT damage is too high depending on your DNA. if u do have x,y,z in your DN A, u could have issues. if h have med issues already,the risk is higher as well.

GLP had a thread on ppl who took the vax and had issues. many deaths. the list was quite long and growing.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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No. No one has done this with full and proper care.

But thanks for failing to acknowledge the way more accurate analogy.

/snark for life on this issue/
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Because you can't do it will full and proper care.

About 5 days in, a black person will decide they don't like lockdowns and get themselves shot.

Then all the major cities will be set on fire, and things will be worse than they are now.

Society does not have an off switch.

An effective federal contact tracing agency would be a thousand times more effective, as much as I don't like the idea.

Sure, the psychopaths on the main page of GLP would lose their fucking minds... but at least in that case it would be white people getting shot and nobody cares about that.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


It is impossible to lockdown Black Americans. Last summer proved that and history proves it. Now, as for cajoling them to get the shot, well, they won't be able to do that either with any degree of success.

Beyond those dynamics, they are also the population who will be most impacted with 'no vax- no service-no job' mandates that are being enacted. What does that mean? It means the cities that are already on edge are about to be pushed over the edge.
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It's impossible to lock down any third world country. The vast majority of people have to get out and work that day to eat that night, otherwise they starve.
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Good morning

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It is now that Thumper is confined to a shite thread and trying so hard.

How are y’all?
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No. No one has done this with full and proper care.

But thanks for failing to acknowledge the way more accurate analogy.

/snark for life on this issue/
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Because you can't do it will full and proper care.

About 5 days in, a black person will decide they don't like lockdowns and get themselves shot.

Then all the major cities will be set on fire, and things will be worse than they are now.

Society does not have an off switch.

An effective federal contact tracing agency would be a thousand times more effective, as much as I don't like the idea.

Sure, the psychopaths on the main page of GLP would lose their fucking minds... but at least in that case it would be white people getting shot and nobody cares about that.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


It is impossible to lockdown Black Americans. Last summer proved that and history proves it. Now, as for cajoling them to get the shot, well, they won't be able to do that either with any degree of success.

Beyond those dynamics, they are also the population who will be most impacted with 'no vax- no service-no job' mandates that are being enacted. What does that mean? It means the cities that are already on edge are about to be pushed over the edge.
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It's impossible to lock down any third world country. The vast majority of people have to get out and work that day to eat that night, otherwise they starve.
 Quoting: Lago


Fuck. But really that wasn’t the point.

The point was about the US.

But since we are here again.... it no longer matters. It hasn’t mattered since May 2020.

Stick a fork in it.

India and the continent of Africa are already moving into the next wave.
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the vax is a trainwreck. surprise out of the info is the timing on the release. did not expect MSM to acknowledge the problem til after school kids got all shot up. i am sure they did not admit it willingly.

see no way they can mandate this virus by any govern. or company. lawsuit city. they will need a new plan and by we should start to hear it next week or they throw JB under the bus with it.

for now the US is back to fake masks. that won't work to slow spread at all. tucking the mask under their chin and breathing in the virus off the mask, will cause many more infections. it'll look worse than 2020.

in time,closer to end of this year, Dr Farci will have to b replaced. nobody is going to listen to the CDC with him in charge. but i think he will stay til KH replaces JB.

at the moment the only thing that might work,thou not much, is interstate travel restrictions. if u are from a RED state, u can't go to BLUE. or u will have a 2 week quarantine. could get ugly.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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I finally got the shot yesterday. Pfizer.

I experienced dizziness and hot flashes. Dizziness within ten minutes. Wasn't severe. Was off and on for about four hours post-vax. Also, hot flashes. Sore arm.

This morning. Feel pretty normal except for a few hot flashes (I am also post-menopausal).

Everyone in my extended family's had the shot...and my mother, who's in her 80's. Not one of them had a problem with it. Also, not one of them has been sick with COVID or anything else since.

I put it off because of how all of you feel, BUT my husband who is disabled, has high blood pressure and diabetes, which was a concern.

After doing months of research, going back and forth on whether I should or shouldn't get it, etc. I finally said, "Fuck it."
I didn't feel 'coerced', but I live in an area that is concerning with the Delta variant.

I do personally feel that it will most likely offer more protection against severe illness than not being vaccinated.
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Presumably you have not been infected with covid yet. If you do not change your behavior, I believe you are 100% right. If you decide to do something risky thinking you are safe (Church, shopping, visit friends etc.-- without covid-19 rated mask) you should be aware that you can become infected and bring that home to your husband.
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I finally got the shot yesterday. Pfizer.

I experienced dizziness and hot flashes. Dizziness within ten minutes. Wasn't severe. Was off and on for about four hours post-vax. Also, hot flashes. Sore arm.

This morning. Feel pretty normal except for a few hot flashes (I am also post-menopausal).

Everyone in my extended family's had the shot...and my mother, who's in her 80's. Not one of them had a problem with it. Also, not one of them has been sick with COVID or anything else since.

I put it off because of how all of you feel, BUT my husband who is disabled, has high blood pressure and diabetes, which was a concern.

After doing months of research, going back and forth on whether I should or shouldn't get it, etc. I finally said, "Fuck it."
I didn't feel 'coerced', but I live in an area that is concerning with the Delta variant.

I do personally feel that it will most likely offer more protection against severe illness than not being vaccinated.
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Sorry, but you may well get infected, have a higher viral load and infect your husband whilst asymptomatic because of this vaccine.

I'm 100% certain the CDC will eventually admit tha the viral load in vaccinated persons is higher than for unvaxed because the virus does what it does best to transmit, when
REPLICATION AND TRANSMISSION IS NOT STOPPED.
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May still get infected yes, higher viral load then non-vaccinated is not likely (fringe cases due to the extreme variance given, anecdotal evidence can be worse then no evidence), and higher chance of being asymptomatic is correct.

That said though, if you do not change your behaviour pre- into post-vaccination there is still a lower overall chance of becoming infected (40-65% reduction, data is shaky) and a much lower chance of any infection progressing into severe illness for the person itself.

Sure the vaccine won't stop the outbreak but there are very few scenario's where the vaccine will actively make things worse for a individual. Just because it does not eliminate all cases and all transmission does not make it useless. Any net gain should be welcomed.
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My wife also just got the vaccine three days ago, taking aspirin every day and she feels fine, no adverse reactions. She decided to take it because of her vulnerability and I’d say proven protection from death. I’ve had a significant upset stomach but don’t think it’s from her shedding the virus but I’ve not been feeling not right the last 2 days but a little better today. I told her just because she got the shot we are not changing our protective measures, which I learned, chemical and biological warfare training…so far good. But I think we are in the mess because of the CDCs decisions, placing the priority on vaccination over stopping the virus. This ad campaign of this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated is so wrong on so many levels!
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Good morning

thisisfine2
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It is now that Thumper is confined to a shite thread and trying so hard.

How are y’all?
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Half my house is without electricity, something wrong with the fuse box. :(
1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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Next waves.....

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If the vaccine does not prevent a new variant from minimizing hospitalizations, the vaccine becomes worthless. To me, the reduction in hospitalizations is the only % that counts. Everything else is just fluff. Do I care if I get infected, no. Do I care if am laid up in my own house as sick as a dog, no. Do I care if I have to be hospitalized, gasping for every breath, thinking it might be my last, and wracking up horrendous hospital bills for my family? YES. I. DO. .... So far, as of July 30th, 2021, “Almost everyone hospitalized with COVID-19 in LA County is unvaccinated; in the month of June, 92% of those hospitalized with COVID-19 were unvaccinated,”. [link to nypost.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Lago


Most people do not head to the hospital for symptoms that are basically flu-like - perhaps a bit more severe - but still in that realm. This is especially true in the more benign summer viral season. However, Fall and Winter are just around the corner and with the vaxed testing positive already - at least those they bother to - we may be facing a complete catastrophe in the making. With hundreds of thousands of the vaccinated being maimed by the shot - with a range of severity, of course - how will they fare in the more stringent viral months that are coming? I suspect the 'authorities' know very well it's going to get bad - quickly.
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I have yet to read any convincing hard evidence of long term damage due to being vaccinated. Surely, by now, if it exists we would be reading about it as BILLIONS of people have been vaccinated worldwide, not mention the vast majority of the military worldwide....Tracking Coronavirus Vaccinations Around the World.... [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] Saying, "YOU WAIT" just doesn't cut it.
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Well, you're our guinea-pig!

vCJD: 2-5y to incubate from UK foodchain infections. Once symptomatic: 12 months uniformly fatal.
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Relevance? link?
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the vax is a trainwreck. surprise out of the info is the timing on the release. did not expect MSM to acknowledge the problem til after school kids got all shot up. i am sure they did not admit it willingly.

see no way they can mandate this virus by any govern. or company. lawsuit city. they will need a new plan and by we should start to hear it next week or they throw JB under the bus with it.

for now the US is back to fake masks. that won't work to slow spread at all. tucking the mask under their chin and breathing in the virus off the mask, will cause many more infections. it'll look worse than 2020.

in time,closer to end of this year, Dr Farci will have to b replaced. nobody is going to listen to the CDC with him in charge. but i think he will stay til KH replaces JB.

at the moment the only thing that might work,thou not much, is interstate travel restrictions. if u are from a RED state, u can't go to BLUE. or u will have a 2 week quarantine. could get ugly.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Keep up the common sense JAZZ.

The Vaxdemic is coming....
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Good morning

:thisisfine2:
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It is now that Thumper is confined to a shite thread and trying so hard.

How are y’all?
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Half my house is without electricity, something wrong with the fuse box. :(
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That. Sucks.

Fuse? Whoa. Did you stock up?

Or are we talking circuit breakers? And those suck too.

Two summers ago we had a meltdown arc event underground. It was interesting to watch, but I wouldn’t wish it on any one.
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Nice. So you still can get a life insurance which will pay if you catch covid? You just have to be vaxxed?
Nice. Really. So now we get insurances for all those vaxxed and cash out a bit later? Sounds like a business idea..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80681623

Life insurance quotes are strictly a numbers game. Actuarial tables. So they are already getting hard information that people who are vaccinated are dying less. Just like getting a higher quote if you smoke.
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the vax is a trainwreck. surprise out of the info is the timing on the release. did not expect MSM to acknowledge the problem til after school kids got all shot up. i am sure they did not admit it willingly.

see no way they can mandate this virus by any govern. or company. lawsuit city. they will need a new plan and by we should start to hear it next week or they throw JB under the bus with it.

for now the US is back to fake masks. that won't work to slow spread at all. tucking the mask under their chin and breathing in the virus off the mask, will cause many more infections. it'll look worse than 2020.

in time,closer to end of this year, Dr Farci will have to b replaced. nobody is going to listen to the CDC with him in charge. but i think he will stay til KH replaces JB.

at the moment the only thing that might work,thou not much, is interstate travel restrictions. if u are from a RED state, u can't go to BLUE. or u will have a 2 week quarantine. could get ugly.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Keep up the common sense JAZZ.

The Vaxdemic is coming....
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


wish we were wrong. both mine and GF's moms got the shot. among other family members. so far no issues. mayb here in rural America ,they got saline.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Good morning

:thisisfine2:
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It is now that Thumper is confined to a shite thread and trying so hard.

How are y’all?
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Half my house is without electricity, something wrong with the fuse box. :(
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WW

Think I may have found the Super Spreaders that started the Missouri Outbreak

Someone keeps abandoning chihuahuas around southwest Missouri

[link to www.kiro7.com (secure)]

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Nice. So you still can get a life insurance which will pay if you catch covid? You just have to be vaxxed?
Nice. Really. So now we get insurances for all those vaxxed and cash out a bit later? Sounds like a business idea..
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You may have meant this but, under most circumstances, life insurance will not pay medical bills while you are alive. Life insurance is really DEATH insurance.
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This would have shown that our cases rose way earlier had tracking been done...

Properly

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LAGO we did hear bout it. u think the ppl with clots recovered? some will b n meds the rest of their lives.once u get clots,the risk is great that u will get them again. meaning u can get them and die or just pnemonia and need the hospital. and those are lucky ppl. others have the clots blow up causing damage in their brains. strokes have happened as well.

now does it happen to everyone that took the vax? i can't say that. could it over 5 years? is it damaging brain functions as the prion posters say? again, will take time for that to come out.

what we do know is the vax was pumped up full of hype. it sure doesn't work as well as they said. too many lies leads to more conjecture. the virus and vax as far as we know reacts to ppl differently due to that person's own DNA makeup. hence, we have no idea who will react how. the risk to LT damage is too high depending on your DNA. if u do have x,y,z in your DN A, u could have issues. if h have med issues already,the risk is higher as well.

GLP had a thread on ppl who took the vax and had issues. many deaths. the list was quite long and growing.
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"it sure doesn't work as well as they said" I get that, but they could only comment on its effectiveness with virus #1. They could not comment on the effectiveness with the Delta variant, just like now they cannot comment on the effectiveness with an "Omega" variant. A time machine would be real handy just about now.
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I have yet to read any convincing hard evidence of long term damage due to being vaccinated. Surely, by now, if it exists we would be reading about it as BILLIONS of people have been vaccinated worldwide, not mention the vast majority of the military worldwide....Tracking Coronavirus Vaccinations Around the World.... [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] Saying, "YOU WAIT" just doesn't cut it.
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Well, you're our guinea-pig!

vCJD: 2-5y to incubate from UK foodchain infections. Once symptomatic: 12 months uniformly fatal.
 Quoting: Lago


Relevance? link?


Interesting that cats were quite susceptible, as well as humans..
(Just like cats susceptible to Sars-CoV-2 hmmm)

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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However, scientists studying BSE were already questioning this assumption and, on 10 May 1990, it was widely reported that a Siamese cat named Max had become infected with BSE...later that month, the then-Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,
John Gummer, appeared on TV encouraging his daughter to eat a beef burger
, and declared British beef to be 'completely safe'.[19] Many more cats would go on to develop the disease, as would numerous other animals including at least one tiger in a UK zoo.

In late 1994, a number of people began to show symptoms of a neurological disease similar to CJD, a fatal disorder that occurs naturally in a small percentage of people, though usually only later in life. This new form of the disease would go on to be identified as variant CJD (vCJD)

..involving infectious misfolded proteins known as prions in the nervous system

It took until 1997 for The Lancet to publish this:-
[link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
The same prion strain causes vCJD and BSE

Of course, U.Doom was right about the PRiOnS. They are coming.
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Good morning

thisisfine2
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It is now that Thumper is confined to a shite thread and trying so hard.

How are y’all?
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Half my house is without electricity, something wrong with the fuse box. :(
 Quoting: WatchingWatchers

You still have a fuse box? How old is the house? Do you have a main disconnect switch with two cartridge fuses below it? It is possible that one of those cartridge fuses has blown. Regardless, if you are not familiar with working with electricity, call a well respected licensed electrician.
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the vax is a trainwreck. surprise out of the info is the timing on the release. did not expect MSM to acknowledge the problem til after school kids got all shot up. i am sure they did not admit it willingly.

see no way they can mandate this virus by any govern. or company. lawsuit city. they will need a new plan and by we should start to hear it next week or they throw JB under the bus with it.

for now the US is back to fake masks. that won't work to slow spread at all. tucking the mask under their chin and breathing in the virus off the mask, will cause many more infections. it'll look worse than 2020.

in time,closer to end of this year, Dr Farci will have to b replaced. nobody is going to listen to the CDC with him in charge. but i think he will stay til KH replaces JB.

at the moment the only thing that might work,thou not much, is interstate travel restrictions. if u are from a RED state, u can't go to BLUE. or u will have a 2 week quarantine. could get ugly.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Keep up the common sense JAZZ.

The Vaxdemic is coming....
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


wish we were wrong. both mine and GF's moms got the shot. among other family members. so far no issues. mayb here in rural America ,they got saline.
 Quoting: JAZZz50

If there is saline in a phial identified as a "vaccine". All liability protection would be shot for the vaccine companies, if they knew. Just like if a surgeon cuts off the wrong leg, all that "release of liability" paperwork you sign would be worth less than toilet paper (that may be a bad example in the future!)
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I have yet to read any convincing hard evidence of long term damage due to being vaccinated. Surely, by now, if it exists we would be reading about it as BILLIONS of people have been vaccinated worldwide, not mention the vast majority of the military worldwide....Tracking Coronavirus Vaccinations Around the World.... [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] Saying, "YOU WAIT" just doesn't cut it.
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Well, you're our guinea-pig!

vCJD: 2-5y to incubate from UK foodchain infections. Once symptomatic: 12 months uniformly fatal.
 Quoting: Lago


Relevance? link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80546506


Interesting that cats were quite susceptible, as well as humans..
(Just like cats susceptible to Sars-CoV-2 hmmm)

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]
However, scientists studying BSE were already questioning this assumption and, on 10 May 1990, it was widely reported that a Siamese cat named Max had become infected with BSE...later that month, the then-Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,
John Gummer, appeared on TV encouraging his daughter to eat a beef burger
, and declared British beef to be 'completely safe'.[19] Many more cats would go on to develop the disease, as would numerous other animals including at least one tiger in a UK zoo.

In late 1994, a number of people began to show symptoms of a neurological disease similar to CJD, a fatal disorder that occurs naturally in a small percentage of people, though usually only later in life. This new form of the disease would go on to be identified as variant CJD (vCJD)

..involving infectious misfolded proteins known as prions in the nervous system

It took until 1997 for The Lancet to publish this:-
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The same prion strain causes vCJD and BSE

Of course, U.Doom was right about the PRiOnS. They are coming.
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I am strictly on the side of "doubting Thomas" about this outcome.
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Lago....

I truly hope they are wrong. The problem is that they can be wrong and we are still royally screwed.

We don’t need prions to bring on the dementia type issues and the cognitive issues that are being seen.
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Continue going up that mountain.
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COVID Is Spreading Like Wildfire in ICE Facilities

Today, according to our tracking of the outbreaks, the positivity rate among people in ICE detention is more than 50 times the positivity rate of the U.S. population at large.

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Branson Missouri is a heavily conservative vacation destination

Great place to drop off a couple Delta infected Illegals to get back at them damn Red Hat Wearing People

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COVID Is Spreading Like Wildfire in ICE Facilities

Today, according to our tracking of the outbreaks, the positivity rate among people in ICE detention is more than 50 times the positivity rate of the U.S. population at large.

[link to www.medpagetoday.com (secure)]

Branson Missouri is a heavily conservative vacation destination

Great place to drop off a couple Delta infected Illegals to get back at them damn Red Hat Wearing People

burnit
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They don’t need help. Everyone from this place and that place are all fucking themselves just fine taking vacations and enjoying concerts.

This isn’t helpful to blame one group. They all had a hand in not caring about anyone but themselves.

And now we watch the next waves come through.
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But it’s not a net gain.... infected is infected....

The long term is still now lurking in more people.

Cognitive decline followed by more dementia type illnesses that we can’t manage safely.
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40-65% is still a net gain, big problem is we don't know for sure and it will take a long time to figure it out.

Most of the current data is from observational studies where you look at what is happening in the real world, this gets messy because there are there to many variables.

Lab studies are less precise because humans are still largely black boxes, we can precisely measure the effects of a few dependent variables but only in isolation outside of the larger system that is the human body....

So infected may lead to long Covid at rate X. For sake of argument let's say 100% but we know it's likely much lower. Vaccine's reduce chance of infection by Y%, let's say 10% though it's likely higher. Even then in isolation there would be a 10% reduction, net gain.

If people increase their chances of infection then it becomes a dice roll. Ideally we would have vaccinated and maintained restrictions at a level to push infections to near 0. In reality we are seeing every decrease in transmission used as a excuse to increase exposure and people then shocked that nothing changed overall.
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DUTCHY,i'm going to ask u the dumb question of the day just to rile CC up.

isn't your %'s and theory based on the data from the govern and makers of these vaccines?

hence,we really don't know much. it has been mostly lies. most everything on the virus was lies since the beginning in CHINA. if u read reports from SOS, u get different results.
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Yes to a degree, but the more important thing is to note that it tends align well everywhere and is being confirmed in labs. You could say they are all in on it but the larger the conspiracy the harder it is to maintain.

now does the vax prevent hospitalizations and severe illness? that verdict is in limbo. let's again do some history. cases were coming down when they gave ut shots. if i give the shot to a healthy person, there is a good chance that person will not need a hospital. but the fact is that person most likely wouldn't need it without the shot either. this alone screws the %'s. it's like adding jelly beans to a bag of marbles. sure the bag weighs more,but does it really have more marbles in it?
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Given it's hard to actually prove, the data does suggest it. Delta is a bit of a wrench in the system in that it is harder to determine real world impact of the vaccine on R etc but I digress. What we are seeing is that hospitalizations in less vulnerable groups are lowered when combined with vaccine, though this could be caused by finding more mild cases etc. Directly proving causation is difficult though the evidence does suggest the vaccine helps.

i gave my theory to this virus. from what i have seen locally. granted that is limited due to avoiding ppl. the original strain that swept this area. skipped over healthy ppl. it only affected those with health issues. and out of those few died. this was before the vaccine. without a vax,the odds here of getting sick from the virus hinged on if u had health issues. anyone else was fine without the shot and would b with it too.


now unless u have a study on ppl who had med issues and took the shot, we have no study that tells us what % this vax is helping. and so far the only reports i see are old age nursing homes that are getting infected.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Detection rates, anecdotal evidence, the vaccine boost the existing immune response it does not magically make you young and healthy etc.

thing is the virus is mutating that ain't rocket science. GLP been saying from day 1 that would happen. anyone believing Dr Farci just realized that all of a sudden is brainwashed and should not b on GLP at all. we have no data on how the vax will deal with any mutation. it was developed to deal with the original. hence,it was doomed to failure before it got released since the virus changed by then. they can make up all the #'s they want based on the original and know that will not b reality due to the ever changing virus. it is political double talk BS as always.

they went from fake hope to keep ppl calm to confusion doing that now. yet they have no hope.
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I still like Fauci, he's a scientist, he's not supposed to be right all the time. They just need to communicate the whole "current scientific understanding is ever evolving" better but that is hard in a era of soundbites and feeling based facts. The problem where we stand is the whole "vaccines -> back to normal" thinking which has been preached for the better part of a year now. That was never realistic. From the beginning it was assumed that the vaccine would stop transmission, not proven, the introduction of Delta strained that assumption to where it could not be upheld.
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COVID Is Spreading Like Wildfire in ICE Facilities

Today, according to our tracking of the outbreaks, the positivity rate among people in ICE detention is more than 50 times the positivity rate of the U.S. population at large.

[link to www.medpagetoday.com (secure)]

Branson Missouri is a heavily conservative vacation destination

Great place to drop off a couple Delta infected Illegals to get back at them damn Red Hat Wearing People

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 Quoting: Cock Goblin


They don’t need help. Everyone from this place and that place are all fucking themselves just fine taking vacations and enjoying concerts.

This isn’t helpful to blame one group. They all had a hand in not caring about anyone but themselves.

And now we watch the next waves come through.
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For one I agree with you. If Missouri was concerned, they would be doing things differently already,
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COVID Is Spreading Like Wildfire in ICE Facilities

Today, according to our tracking of the outbreaks, the positivity rate among people in ICE detention is more than 50 times the positivity rate of the U.S. population at large.

[link to www.medpagetoday.com (secure)]

Branson Missouri is a heavily conservative vacation destination

Great place to drop off a couple Delta infected Illegals to get back at them damn Red Hat Wearing People

burnit
 Quoting: Cock Goblin


They don’t need help. Everyone from this place and that place are all fucking themselves just fine taking vacations and enjoying concerts.

This isn’t helpful to blame one group. They all had a hand in not caring about anyone but themselves.

And now we watch the next waves come through.
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Kim Reynolds suggests unvaccinated immigrants are contributing to rising COVID-19 cases

Gov. Kim Reynolds said Tuesday that "part of the problem" with rising COVID-19 cases in the United States is unvaccinated immigrants entering the country via the southern border.

"Part of the problem is the southern border is open and we’ve got 88 countries that are coming across the border and they don’t have vaccines so none of them are vaccinated and they’re getting dispersed throughout the country," Reynolds told reporters Tuesday.

whatever





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