LUCKY TO BE ALIVE Boy, 6, savaged by ‘loveable’ pet dog who ripped his face apart before being saved by his grandma

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We have a problem with pit bull attacks in America. Maybe it doesn't happen with the same frequency and savagery in Australia, as it does here. Every single week. Sometimes twice a week there is a story like this from them attacking children and babies and people.

Not to mention killing other people's pets..like I got to witness as a small child with my own dog. I'm still haunted by it..and if someone allows a deadly weapon to be off leash and maims or kills another..that people should be liable in at the exact manner if they had done it themselves.

That's how I see it. It's my opinion. One that largely shared in regard to this breed.

If one chooses one of these animals as a pet..it should be treated as a potential weapon and never left unattended or with an ability to escape a yard.

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So the accepted standard (the test) is invalid due to... Someone disagreeing?

You're not going to find many puppies that instantly run and attack everything. Interactions with another dog are based, again, on how it is raised and socialised.

You can take the AKC (the group that decided to promote the slanted back in German Shepards which causes hip dysplasia as the accepted standard) and shove that quite deep.

Who would think a dog would react differently when under different people's control. My friends Shepard acts extremely defensively when under her control around unfamiliar males. When under my control, he does not.

I'll let you figure out why, I'm sure you can do it.

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Who cares? Who wants some smelly animal in their house? Any time I'm around someone who owns a dog I can smell it all over them. Gross.

Do you have a point? You responded to a thread about pitbulls with a video of a trained police dog of a different breed.

Yeah, fucking terrifying.

Some people aren't fit to be owners. A lot goes into raising a dog right.

Some breeds are more aggressive and dominant then others, but you'll find more variation between different dogs then the breeds...kinda like people.



The study concluded that dog attacks were most common with the following breeds:

Labrador retrievers: 13.3%
Pit Bulls: 8.4%
German Shepherds: 7.8%
Rottweilers: 3.9%
Chows: 3.5%
Labradors lead the pack with the most number of attacks, which is a surprising discovery when taking into account the mild nature of the dogs. However, many dogs develop aggressive tendencies as a result of their training, making owners responsible for their aggressive outbursts.

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Tards going to tard hard lol. I let you read this and try to figure it out on your own. I on the other hand am not sure you can do it at all lol.


Owners frequently claim: "It's not the breed's fault"

Pit bull owners frequently blame the "environment" after a pit bull mauls or kills a person. A participant in the Tufts study illustrates this clearly, "If you get some kid that has been beaten all his life, he's going to go out and be aggressive towards people."14 The intention is to assert that an aggressive pit bull must have been beaten or taught to attack by their owners instead of admitting to the genetic traits that define the breed (See: Why do people say that pit bulls "don't let go?")

Pit bull defenders frequently blame a victim's actions after an attack too. Examples include blaming a "sudden cough" or "being in a bouncy chair" as a trigger for a fatal mauling. Ledy VanKavage, a top lobbyist for pit bulls, even blamed a baby crying as a pretext.15 Pit bull fans say such actions sufficiently explain why the pit bull killed the person. These excuses, however, always fail to explain the disproportionate response by the dog to an otherwise harmless activity.

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That data is totally bullshit.

Small dogs attack more than large dogs, they bite more often.

Labs / all retrievers, a large group of various lab types, are the most common large dog, so they have more frequent bite numbers.

Pits own the kill stats across the board.

Those numbers were put together by a common core inner city democrat not doubt, they don't understand math and statistics.

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Funny.. Likely Australia has a large number of the breed... Perhaps it has more to do with the owner, hmm?

Yes I'm aware of your past Seer. My Father was killed on a motorbike by an improperly connected Semi trailer. I don't scream ban all motorbikes and trucks.

Yes, if someone's pet hurts another they should be both liable and banned from ownership.

But your fear should not dictate a hate of the breed, anymore then those who scream all (insert race here) should die due to the actions of a few.

I'd also sadly guess your dog is not overly, or at all, socialised with other dogs due to this fear you possess.

I had a German Shepard maul my Nans Maltese while I was walking it as a kid (it survived). I did not let it turn me into a "hate all Shepards" person - I interacted with others of its breed and realised hating and fearing all of them from the actions of a lone individual was stupid.

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Who cares? Who wants some smelly animal in their house? Any time I'm around someone who owns a dog I can smell it all over them. Gross.

Do you have a point? You responded to a thread about pitbulls with a video of a trained police dog of a different breed.

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Read what I was responding to, you'll figure it out!

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Read what I was responding to, you'll figure it out!

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Why don't you try actually responding with something relevant to the thread?

The dog in the OP was neither a trained police dog nor was it a doberman, or German Shepard, or whatever the fuck it is that's not a pitbull.

A single video of another dog attacking doesn't negate the thousands of pitbull attacks that have been reported.

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Why don't you try actually responding with something relevant to the thread?

The dog in the OP was neither a trained police dog nor was it a doberman, or German Shepard, or whatever the fuck it is that's not a pitbull.

A single video of another dog attacking doesn't negate the thousands of pitbull attacks that have been reported.

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HAHA right out of the Tard 101 playbook.

Myth #9: Pit bulls pass the American Temperament Test

In 1977, Alfons Ertel designed the American Temperament Test in hopes of creating a uniform temperament test for dogs. Of the 77 million plus dogs that populate the U.S. today,21 6,670 are tested per year (0.008% of all dogs).22 The temperament data published by the group is not based upon scientific random sampling of any dog breed. It seems it would be virtually impossible to develop such a reliable study, as the base population source group is unidentifiable.

Due to the temperament data being objectively statistically unreliable, it is also highly misleading. Pit bull advocates frequently use this misleading data to point to the breed's good temperament and to advocate against breed-specific laws ("Pit bulls pass the ATTS test more often than beagles!"). Yet anyone who has a minimal understanding of critical statistical analysis should be able to see that the ATTS "breed statistics" temperament data is essentially valueless.

The 12-minute test stimulates a casual walk through a park with a range of encounters. The test focuses on stability, shyness, aggressiveness and a few other factors. According to the group, the overall pass rate (the combination of all breeds) is 84%.23 Unlike the AKC's Canine Good Citizen test, no part of the ATTS test is performed without the dog owner present. It also fails to evaluate the most basic scenario that leads to aggression: How a dog reacts when it sees another dog.

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Try again tards

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*Sigh* I was responding to a poster saying pit bulls won't stop attacking when commanded by posting a clip showing how even a police dog, improperly trained and handled, does the same thing.

Understand now cupcake?

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Ah I get it.

The official statistics don't match your view, therefore, they are wrong.

That's about all the time I'll waste on you then.

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So the accepted standard (the test) is invalid due to... Someone disagreeing?

You're not going to find many puppies that instantly run and attack everything. Interactions with another dog are based, again, on how it is raised and socialised.

You can take the AKC (the group that decided to promote the slanted back in German Shepards which causes hip dysplasia as the accepted standard) and shove that quite deep.

Who would think a dog would react differently when under different people's control. My friends Shepard acts extremely defensively when under her control around unfamiliar males. When under my control, he does not.

I'll let you figure out why, I'm sure you can do it.

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Yay you just covered myth #1

Myth #1: It's the owner not the breed

The outdated debate, "It's the owner, not the breed," has caused the pit bull problem to grow into a 35-year old problem.1 Designed to protect pit bull breeders and owners, the slogan ignores the genetic history of the breed and blames these horrific maulings -- inflicted by the pit bull's genetic "hold and shake" bite style -- on environmental factors. While environment plays a role in a pit bull's behavior, it is genetics that leaves pit bull victims with permanent and disfiguring injuries.

The pit bull's genetic traits are not in dispute. Many appellate courts agree that pit bulls pose a significant danger to society and can be regulated accordingly. Some of the genetic traits courts have identified include: unpredictability of aggression, tenacity ("gameness" the refusal to give up a fight), high pain tolerance and the pit bull's "hold and shake" bite style.2 According to forensic medical studies, similar injuries have only been found elsewhere on victims of shark attacks.3

Purveyors of this myth also cannot account for the many instances in which pit bull owners and their family members are victimized by their pet dogs. From 2005 to 2019, pit bulls killed 346 Americans, about one citizen every 16 days. Of these deaths, 53% involved a family member and a household pit bull.4 Notably, in the first 8 months of 2011, nearly half of those killed by a pit bull was its owner. One victim was an "avid supporter" of BadRap, a recipient of Michael Vick's dogs.5
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So your saying German Shepards should be put down to?
Because if it's the breed, not the owner, then clearly there is problem with the breed, as shown by my posted video.
Or I could follow it up with a properly trained Shepard.

Not following your logic here, or how it proves your point?

Try to get any untrained dog to drop a treat it finds on the ground.

Tards going to tard hard lol. I let you read this and try to figure it out on your own. I on the other hand am not sure you can do it at all lol.


Owners frequently claim: "It's not the breed's fault"

Pit bull owners frequently blame the "environment" after a pit bull mauls or kills a person. A participant in the Tufts study illustrates this clearly, "If you get some kid that has been beaten all his life, he's going to go out and be aggressive towards people."14 The intention is to assert that an aggressive pit bull must have been beaten or taught to attack by their owners instead of admitting to the genetic traits that define the breed (See: Why do people say that pit bulls "don't let go?")

Pit bull defenders frequently blame a victim's actions after an attack too. Examples include blaming a "sudden cough" or "being in a bouncy chair" as a trigger for a fatal mauling. Ledy VanKavage, a top lobbyist for pit bulls, even blamed a baby crying as a pretext. Pit bull fans say such actions sufficiently explain why the pit bull killed the person. These excuses, however, always fail to explain the disproportionate response by the dog to an otherwise harmless activity.

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You're blaming the kid due to something you personally witnessed one time or another. Mmmmmkay.

What about the babies? What did they do? Not much a 2 weeks old can do but sleep, shit and eat. Sneezing can trigger these dogs..and does.


You can make whatever excuse you want..no kid deserved to have their face bitten off or throat torn out because they were:

Riding their bike

Walking down the street

Waiting for the bus

Being cared for by a relative

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Sitting in the living room and get up to get a snack, as was mentioned in the OP.

But these dogs are innocent. That 2 week old was lookin to pull its ears for sure.

You're blaming the kid due to something you personally witnessed one time or another. Mmmmmkay.

What about the babies? What did they do? Not much a 2 weeks old can do but sleep, shit and eat. Sneezing can trigger these dogs..and does.


You can make whatever excuse you want..no kid deserved to have their face bitten off or throat torn out because they were:

Riding their bike

Walking down the street

Waiting for the bus

Being cared for by a relative

or

Sitting in the living room and get up to get a snack, as was mentioned in the OP.

But these dogs are innocent. That 2 week old was lookin to pull its ears for sure.

You're blaming the kid due to something you personally witnessed one time or another. Mmmmmkay.

What about the babies? What did they do? Not much a 2 weeks old can do but sleep, shit and eat. Sneezing can trigger these dogs..and does.


You can make whatever excuse you want..no kid deserved to have their face bitten off or throat torn out because they were:

Riding their bike

Walking down the street

Waiting for the bus

Being cared for by a relative

or

Sitting in the living room and get up to get a snack, as was mentioned in the OP.

But these dogs are innocent. That 2 week old was lookin to pull its ears for sure.