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Militant Bitch User ID: 79160306 United States 08/09/2020 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like to disprove bullshit even more. Most dont have my experience and skillsets and are prone to flights of fancy with minimum encouragement. excavating is cool.. respect.. Learning to require proof in the face of wild claims and applying logic is cool too. That said, check into Herrenknecht vertical boring system, its interesting system thats basically a continuous miner system put on a rotating boom and it basically grinds a hole vertically. If thats what OP was referring to he did a poor job of it. Here is some hidden technology for you few have discovered.. :) no joke and I am perfectly ok with revealing it IMAGE ( [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] ) Last Edited by rewind on 08/09/2020 11:04 AM |
Bush Master
(OP) User ID: 72455497 United States 08/09/2020 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first .5% of the debris fields will start hitting the earth before this Halloween and through the winter. About another 3% of the debris field will hit throughout next year, but the largest percentage of the field between 20-33% will hit between 2022-24. Maybe another 4-7% between 2025-28. But I think 199/200 humans will be wiped out by late summer of 2022, Just an estimate, only time will tell what exactly happens. We've estimated that no more than 43% of the debris fields will hit the Earth. One hope is the the US or Russia has weapons in space to help mitigate these threads. Weaponizing of space started as early as the 1970's when Russians had a 30mm gun aboard a Soviet space station for defence. It's speculated that both countries have been launching newer and better weapons, but very few if any know the true extend of whats really up there. If what you post is accurate then our hope is that the got something up there to hit these thing on arrival. [link to phys.org (secure)] I appreciate your hope, i really do, but I can say from what I know that they have in space, humans won't be able to stop no more than .2% of the debris fields. Sorry, humans would need to have the sophistication and technology like what is portrayed in the tv Show Star Trek:the next generation to be able to have a chance to stop a majority of these debris fields. And humans today are at least several hundred years from that point. The last time I checked this summer, humans don't have WARP speed Starships, so that right there tells you humans won't be able to stop these debris fields. AND DON'T LET ANY SHILLS ON GLP TRY TO CONVINCE YOU THAT HUMANS IN THE YEAR 2020 HAVE TOP SECRET WARP SPEED STARSHIPS, THAT'S JUST NOT REAL TRUTH TODAY, NOT EVEN CLOSE. Something is going to happen and its requiring tunnels. I hope your wrong ac. That's some scary shit. |
Don Draper from Nantucket
User ID: 57553864 United States 08/09/2020 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, its not. Anything supposedly needing a 24 ft diameter core drill and all the attendant infrastructure and power requirements and tool handling infrastructure isnt going to be handled with a crew of mexicans or your standard OTR transport. Whoa! Whoa! I once had a job removing huge boulders from a backyard in Rancho Cucamonga and that is exactly who we hired to transport them to the truck parked out front! Let's not turn this into a racial thing! PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7279210 United States 08/09/2020 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7279210 Thats a TBM. Everyone knows of those. Thats not what is being discussed here. OPs making the claim that hes involved with a house sized rotating core drill for vertical boring. If you think about the logistics, its pretty stupid, since if youre coring out a huge hole, you still have to revert to traditional measures to empty out the spoils. That makes the huge expense of not only the can drill not to mention the even larger motor device that moves it and lifts the components. This can drill can only go straight, so therse no benefit. I call bullshit and will continue to because I cant find proof of such a device larger than 8 ft, and I dont see a benefit in making one much larger than that. Prove me wrong. spoiler alert: You don't know everything. :rof: And you do? My job is actually to know as much as is possible. You may not be aware of what it takes to build and maintain the type of tech OP claims. A 24 foot cutter would need a casing of at least a foot thick of steel to not fold or wrinkle from rotatory forces that smaller can coring needs. You dont control the required thousands of tons of steel and carbide with a portable compressor/hydraulics pumps/ If you use a vibrating technlology its even worse when trying to vibrate-abraid the degree of rock face to get any significant depth, the the motors and pumps for any of these. Again, its not just about cutting a path in the rock, the rock has to be removed and the core drill doesnt do that, so that has to be done the old fashioned way, with drills, explosives and cranes. Given that, theres no need for the vertical can borer in the first place. The may part of the TBMs is the spoils removal system, which doesnt work in a vertical boring can because it only cuts along its edges and leaves the core intact. If I dont know anything about this, and I have an excavation company, then what do you know? Not if there is a plate at both ends and one of the plates opens while digging and when reversed it closes. I can tell youve never dug a hole in your life. So youre saying your system has a plate in front and a plate in back, and magically opens and closes and the spoils are mucked out of the hole by a flapping plate? sure. |
Bush Master
(OP) User ID: 72455497 United States 08/09/2020 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like to disprove bullshit even more. Most dont have my experience and skillsets and are prone to flights of fancy with minimum encouragement. excavating is cool.. respect.. Learning to require proof in the face of wild claims and applying logic is cool too. That said, check into Herrenknecht vertical boring system, its interesting system thats basically a continuous miner system put on a rotating boom and it basically grinds a hole vertically. If thats what OP was referring to he did a poor job of it. All I've ever seen turning these bits are large trackhoes. The point I am trying to make is theres a hell of a lot of digging going on over the last few months and I do not think it's all for new construction. |
Don Draper from Nantucket
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Bush Master
(OP) User ID: 72455497 United States 08/09/2020 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you do? My job is actually to know as much as is possible. You may not be aware of what it takes to build and maintain the type of tech OP claims. A 24 foot cutter would need a casing of at least a foot thick of steel to not fold or wrinkle from rotatory forces that smaller can coring needs. You dont control the required thousands of tons of steel and carbide with a portable compressor/hydraulics pumps/ If you use a vibrating technlology its even worse when trying to vibrate-abraid the degree of rock face to get any significant depth, the the motors and pumps for any of these. Again, its not just about cutting a path in the rock, the rock has to be removed and the core drill doesnt do that, so that has to be done the old fashioned way, with drills, explosives and cranes. Given that, theres no need for the vertical can borer in the first place. The may part of the TBMs is the spoils removal system, which doesnt work in a vertical boring can because it only cuts along its edges and leaves the core intact. If I dont know anything about this, and I have an excavation company, then what do you know? Not if there is a plate at both ends and one of the plates opens while digging and when reversed it closes. I can tell youve never dug a hole in your life. So youre saying your system has a plate in front and a plate in back, and magically opens and closes and the spoils are mucked out of the hole by a flapping plate? sure. I'm not going in to any more detail on how it works , but yes it opens and closes. It's not that hard to imagine how this can happen. Think! Its mechanical not electric. I blew me away when I first saw one. Very simplistic design. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7279210 United States 08/09/2020 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, its not. Anything supposedly needing a 24 ft diameter core drill and all the attendant infrastructure and power requirements and tool handling infrastructure isnt going to be handled with a crew of mexicans or your standard OTR transport. Whoa! Whoa! I once had a job removing huge boulders from a backyard in Rancho Cucamonga and that is exactly who we hired to transport them to the truck parked out front! Let's not turn this into a racial thing! Mexican is not a race its a nationality. |
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Bush Master
(OP) User ID: 72455497 United States 08/09/2020 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you do? My job is actually to know as much as is possible. You may not be aware of what it takes to build and maintain the type of tech OP claims. A 24 foot cutter would need a casing of at least a foot thick of steel to not fold or wrinkle from rotatory forces that smaller can coring needs. You dont control the required thousands of tons of steel and carbide with a portable compressor/hydraulics pumps/ If you use a vibrating technlology its even worse when trying to vibrate-abraid the degree of rock face to get any significant depth, the the motors and pumps for any of these. Again, its not just about cutting a path in the rock, the rock has to be removed and the core drill doesnt do that, so that has to be done the old fashioned way, with drills, explosives and cranes. Given that, theres no need for the vertical can borer in the first place. The may part of the TBMs is the spoils removal system, which doesnt work in a vertical boring can because it only cuts along its edges and leaves the core intact. If I dont know anything about this, and I have an excavation company, then what do you know? Not if there is a plate at both ends and one of the plates opens while digging and when reversed it closes. I can tell youve never dug a hole in your life. So youre saying your system has a plate in front and a plate in back, and magically opens and closes and the spoils are mucked out of the hole by a flapping plate? sure. Correct! I do not dig holes. Last Edited by Bush Master on 08/09/2020 05:05 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7279210 United States 08/09/2020 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7279210 I like to disprove bullshit even more. Most dont have my experience and skillsets and are prone to flights of fancy with minimum encouragement. excavating is cool.. respect.. Learning to require proof in the face of wild claims and applying logic is cool too. That said, check into Herrenknecht vertical boring system, its interesting system thats basically a continuous miner system put on a rotating boom and it basically grinds a hole vertically. If thats what OP was referring to he did a poor job of it. All I've ever seen turning these bits are large trackhoes. The point I am trying to make is theres a hell of a lot of digging going on over the last few months and I do not think it's all for new construction. If youre talking can boring drills they are rotated by hydraulic clamps and motors which rotate the can back and forthe and in this manner grind through stone and soils with the carbides imbedded to the edge of the cylinder. An important issue when digging vertical holes that the walls are stabilized from wall collapse and water intrusion as some kind of water is pretty much a given. Most large holes have to have steel or concrete liners to keep the walls from crumbling under the weight. That requires removing the can or leaving it in and adding to it. |
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Bush Master
(OP) User ID: 72455497 United States 08/09/2020 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Learning to require proof in the face of wild claims and applying logic is cool too. That said, check into Herrenknecht vertical boring system, its interesting system thats basically a continuous miner system put on a rotating boom and it basically grinds a hole vertically. If thats what OP was referring to he did a poor job of it. All I've ever seen turning these bits are large trackhoes. The point I am trying to make is theres a hell of a lot of digging going on over the last few months and I do not think it's all for new construction. If youre talking can boring drills they are rotated by hydraulic clamps and motors which rotate the can back and forthe and in this manner grind through stone and soils with the carbides imbedded to the edge of the cylinder. An important issue when digging vertical holes that the walls are stabilized from wall collapse and water intrusion as some kind of water is pretty much a given. Most large holes have to have steel or concrete liners to keep the walls from crumbling under the weight. That requires removing the can or leaving it in and adding to it. Correct! Some even have holes connected to stem that allows for grout, hydraulic cement and even concrete to pass through. Probably for pylons. |
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Bush Master
(OP) User ID: 72455497 United States 08/09/2020 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Herculobus, Nibiru, Destroyer, Nemesis, Planet X, Or as it is written in scripture in revelation the Dragon. It's coming just a matter of when. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77927192 The Sumerian tablets decoded by Zecharia Sitchin said it is about 60 years away. He said that before he died in 2010. I miss the nibiru days. That was some good clean doom fun there I tell ya. |
Don Draper from Nantucket
User ID: 57553864 United States 08/09/2020 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, its not. Anything supposedly needing a 24 ft diameter core drill and all the attendant infrastructure and power requirements and tool handling infrastructure isnt going to be handled with a crew of mexicans or your standard OTR transport. Whoa! Whoa! I once had a job removing huge boulders from a backyard in Rancho Cucamonga and that is exactly who we hired to transport them to the truck parked out front! Let's not turn this into a racial thing! Mexican is not a race its a nationality. You may be in excavating but you sure missed the little trap I set for you, to prove you're only here to argue! Well done! PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7279210 United States 08/09/2020 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF this is true... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16719372 Governments are ramping up large scale infrastructure projects at the moment in an attempt to keep the economy going. Its obviusly not for the publics benefit but at the publics expense. If such cynical trillion dollar expenditures are being made for the singular benefit of a special few who by negligence or intent failed to protect the public then they deserve to be the first ones to be sent to the next life. Its one thing to build shelters for everyone, like they do in Switzerland for SHTF, and quite another to spend trillion to save Nazi Pelosi, Chuckie, Adam and Jerry. Having wasted time and money in the face of a real threat, they should be tried, convicted and shot into space to be the first ones to impact incoming threats. They are not entitled to hide from their mistakes and misappropriation and thats the real issue. |
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Bush Master
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(OP) User ID: 72455497 United States 08/09/2020 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF this is true... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16719372 Governments are ramping up large scale infrastructure projects at the moment in an attempt to keep the economy going. Its obviusly not for the publics benefit but at the publics expense. If such cynical trillion dollar expenditures are being made for the singular benefit of a special few who by negligence or intent failed to protect the public then they deserve to be the first ones to be sent to the next life. Its one thing to build shelters for everyone, like they do in Switzerland for SHTF, and quite another to spend trillion to save Nazi Pelosi, Chuckie, Adam and Jerry. Having wasted time and money in the face of a real threat, they should be tried, convicted and shot into space to be the first ones to impact incoming threats. They are not entitled to hide from their mistakes and misappropriation and thats the real issue. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7279210 United States 08/09/2020 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7279210 no, its not. Anything supposedly needing a 24 ft diameter core drill and all the attendant infrastructure and power requirements and tool handling infrastructure isnt going to be handled with a crew of mexicans or your standard OTR transport. Whoa! Whoa! I once had a job removing huge boulders from a backyard in Rancho Cucamonga and that is exactly who we hired to transport them to the truck parked out front! Let's not turn this into a racial thing! Mexican is not a race its a nationality. You may be in excavating but you sure missed the little trap I set for you, to prove you're only here to argue! Well done! So you claim. Im not going to be drawn into your rabbitholes. I need some kind of validation of extraordinary claime before I buy a pig in a poke. |
Bush Master
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Digital mix guy
User ID: 77474066 United States 08/09/2020 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I make large and small eath moving tools. Quoting: Bush Master We have never been busier selling the large core bucket cutters. 24 ft wide. They go to government contractors and directly to the Pentagon. We are sending flatbed after flatbed for months now. Someone is realy doing some digging on a massive scale. We've been on mandatory ot for 2 months now. Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
Don Draper from Nantucket
User ID: 57553864 United States 08/09/2020 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket Whoa! Whoa! I once had a job removing huge boulders from a backyard in Rancho Cucamonga and that is exactly who we hired to transport them to the truck parked out front! Let's not turn this into a racial thing! Mexican is not a race its a nationality. You may be in excavating but you sure missed the little trap I set for you, to prove you're only here to argue! Well done! So you claim. Im not going to be drawn into your rabbitholes. I need some kind of validation of extraordinary claime before I buy a pig in a poke. You go poke anything you like, it's a free country. I made my point and will now depart this thread as to not derail it. PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
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