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US mortgage crisis predicted to get worse as home loan defaults soar(won't peak for 2 more years)

 
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US mortgage crisis predicted to get worse as home loan defaults soar

Tom Bawden in New York

America’s mortgage crisis is likely to get considerably worse because the level of fraudulent lending to unsuitable borrowers was much higher than previously estimated, Standard & Poor’s said yesterday.

David Wyss, the ratings agency’s chief economist, said that defaults on high-risk “sub-prime” mortgages would continue to soar as unqualified mortgage-holders struggled to meet their repayments, tightening the credit markets and dragging down the American economy.

The US economy, which grew at 2.9 per cent in 2006, consequently would grow at just 2 per cent this year and next, Mr Wyss said. This compared with estimated growth of 3.6 per cent this year and 3.5 per cent in 2008 in the global economy.

Mr Wyss told a conference in Bombay: “The panic has subsided, but the housing market has not hit bottom yet. Housing prices won’t hit bottom until next summer and the losses won’t peak for another two years, until 2009. We are not halfway through this crisis yet.

“We underestimated the extent to which fraud was occurring in the industry. It looks [as if], based on some surveys that had been done, the extent of frauds increased sharply in 2006.”

The level of fraud increased as lenders sought new customers through increasingly dubious means after a surge in sub-prime home loans in recent years that had left most eligible borrowers with mortgages.

Many brokers and mortgage lenders did not require proof of income and others helped borrowers to forge documents that inflated their salaries, enabling them to take out bigger loans than they could repay.

They largely got away with these practices while house prices were rising, since borrowers could remortgage their properties and pay off the loans with the proceeds. As house prices began to stagnate, and in many areas to fall, this option has been largely closed and the number of defaults has surged.

The number of foreclosures in the United States jumped by 115 per cent to 243,947 in August, from the year before – or one in 510 households, according to RealtyTrac, the housing monitor. A foreclosure is a legal process typically set in motion when a borrower falls 90 days behind on mortgage repayments. About 40 per cent end in a forced sale or repossession of the house, while the bank and borrower reach an alternative repayment schedule in the remaining cases.

As foreclosures rise, house prices inevitably fall further and increase many investors’ losses on mortage-related securities, such as sub-prime-backed bonds. More importantly, consumers account for about two thirds of the economy and declining house prices dent their confidence, making them less likely to borrow and spend.

The effect of the housing slump on consumer confidence was underlined yesterday by new data that showed US retail sales in September rose at the slowest pace in five months.

Sales at stores open for at least a year rose by 2 per cent, from the year before, according to new research by the International Council of Shopping Centers and UBS.

Meanwhile, in a further sign that the fallout from the sub-prime mortgage crisis is set to continue for some time, Thornburg Mortgage yesterday increased the estimate on the loss that it will face on the sale of $22 billion (£10.8 billion) of “high-quality”, adjust-able-rate home loans, from $863 million to $1.1 billion.
[link to business.timesonline.co.uk]
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Re: US mortgage crisis predicted to get worse as home loan defaults soar(won't peak for 2 more years)
God bless America!
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Even though those fucking morons will be losing their houses, they will continue going to the malls and buying new SUV's.People are mentally and spiritually sick nowadays which might explain their mass self destructive behavior.
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NO. The morons won't be loosing their houses. There is going to be a freeze on Foreclosures issued by the government and probably soon. The rates will be forced back down to the "starter" rates and left there for probably a 10 year period with no negative allowed, either! Wait and see. The Japanese investors who bought this paper (bonds) are just going to get nailed hard! But since it's not a true default they can't bitch too much. Or they can't do much other than bitch about it.

This will make the present congress and administration look like friggin' heros before the elections. And will probably bouy up the economy as well. At least for a while.

It's not down the tubes yet.

BTW: right now in LA where housing prices for starter homes and condos are nearly 1million - the only lending that's going on is a straight 20% down fixed rate loan. And you'd better have credit scores at or above 720 and the income will be documented to a fair-thee-well. Faking it might still be possible, but much more difficult. The borrowers buying for the first time need to have amassed a savings of nearly $330k to handle the downpayment and closing costs on your "average" home here. Even professionals with large incomes cannot do it. Their gross pay of say $16k/mo (if you're salary is about $200k/yr) is cut down to a take home of under 7k by the time taxes and BS is taken out. And on 7k/mo how in hell do you live and save 300k in the interim? Can't do it for most people. Unless Mom and Dad have big bucks to lend you, you aren't going to buy in LA with less than 20% down for the foreseeable future.
Life really is a banquet - and truly - most poor sucker are starving! Enjoy the ride baby.
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Nice for investors, that have been sitting around waiting for the dumpex again,,,it comes in cycles...I am already adding to a few rental properties that I already have. God Bless America, for the stupid people that let themselves fall into the trap...or not the education enough to resarch what they have got thme selves into...With exotic mortgages. But the way, I worked for National City for 3 years, and did loans for 4 bank branches, and never put anyone into one of those things. I would have people come in shopping for a loan, and sit them down and let them know the what was going to happen 2 or 3 years down the line. Sometimes money is not worth the damage that you can do to someone.
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my house is already paid in full

there is no problem

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my house is already paid in full

there is no problem

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 Quoting: anime eyes 207220


Mine too... it is all B.S. ... and anyone that took those stupid kind of loans... S.O.L. ... your own damn fault...

Paid in cash for mine... but would have taken the normal 30 year fixed rate that was 5.5% at the time ( 20% + back around 1980 ) ... anyways... without issues...

dumb people should get screwed

5a
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You two gloating freaks are part of the problem in society today, it's peoples attitudes like yourselves that contribute to the problems.
AND...
Predatory practices are the real problem....not the 'dumb' people, they were not given the full disclosures.hmm
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I wouldn't gloat to much, Hilary has a plan to bail out those who can't pay their mortgages. The tax payer gets to bail them out. Get ready to pay up...
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Do you understand that paid or not when they take away all land rights for the national debt the house goes with. That is why the president after giving corrupt ones the right to make money stated he had made the biggest mistake ever for he could see the day that general population would be americans on a strangers land.--------------------------------------------------------​-------------------------------------------------------------​---------------------
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I wouldn't gloat to much, Hilary has a plan to bail out those who can't pay their mortgages. The tax payer gets to bail them out. Get ready to pay up...
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Yeah , its much better to spend taxpayer money in Irak war .
Yeah, fuck Clinton ...
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I wouldn't gloat to much, Hilary has a plan to bail out those who can't pay their mortgages. The tax payer gets to bail them out. Get ready to pay up...


Yeah , its much better to spend taxpayer money in Irak war .
Yeah, fuck Clinton ...
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We're talking about the mortgage mess....
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Re: US mortgage crisis predicted to get worse as home loan defaults soar(won't peak for 2 more years)
To those two arrogant fucks who like to think that the millions of people who fell into Bush and Greenspan's creative financing traps that ultimately are meant to shift the wealth to the richest few in this country, you better hope that you live in gated communities and don't have to leave too often as there are going to be around 15 million heavily armed and seriously pissed off homeless gun toting americans wandering the streets looking for their next meal, and guess what asshole, you in your SUV or Hummer will be targeted.

The mortgage crisis was engineered by the illuminated fucktards running this country just like they engineer every war the US has ever landed itself in like this Iraq mess, and soon to be Iran mess.

Keep letting them get away with squandering the national treasury on warcrimes instead of health care, education and infrastructure and this country will soon be worse off then most third world countries that we have interfered with over the past half century. Dumbed down for a reason, but not too stupid to load a rifle.





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