Mask Shenanigans in Kansas

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Yeah, well it's now pronounced tau. Actually wiki has the pronunciation as taw

"WITCH-i-taw"

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

I would love to hear about the witchcraft though if you have something to enlighten me with like links or something. I'll even take your enlightenment without links.

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Nice work with incomplete information OP. I also live in Kansas and you're forgetting one thing: The sheer number of anti-maskers that are not following the mask mandates. Without full buy-in, there is no way to get an accurate portrayal of the effectiveness of the mandates. I appreciate your research, but unless you can prove that everyone is following the mandates (they aren't) then you can't give an accurate picture of what is going on.

Be careful quoting Dave Trabert and the Kansas Policy Institute. They are leftovers from the Brownback mentality in the state and that type of thinking is why we became a national laughing stock over the last six years.

So, I haven't updated lately and since I updated the thread today with another article, I thought I would see how we are trending now, when the claim all along that masks work and we are getting further into the mask wearing than we were the last time I updated.

8/24 59 hospitalizations; 8/17 63 hospitalizations.

On the latest update (8/24), it appears there are more in ICU than since the chart begins (6/29) with a total of 35 in ICU.

But, but, but I thought masks were making a difference and affecting hospitalizations.

No, I think you have missed the point. Officials are claiming that it is making a difference, not me. They are going before the media saying they are working and numbers are going down in mandated counties, not me. I can attest to the fact that at least in the Wichita area, I have not seen people not wearing their masks, what with threat of fine and all. I don't know what part of the State you are in. Are you in a mandated area or not?

OP: Like you I live in Wichita.

I haven't trusted Dr. Norman [I recall his first Topeka presser where he showed up in a t-shirt/unbuttoned white smock and mumbled his "report"] or Gov Kelly [I really DESPISE her double-speak] since the first words that spewed from their mouths; meanwhile, our own Sedgwick County cadaverous "Cryptkeeper" lurches before the cameras like an extra in a George Romero slasher film.

And, our local media are just as biased as the national scum as they promote everything proposed that will make our city miserable, with the relentlessly self-promoting KWCH the worst of the lot.

Here's something I've noticed since day ONE of this pandemic, long before masks were even suggested: I haven't seen ONE single person coughing, sniffling or exhibiting any of the usual symptoms of seasonal colds/flu. NOT ONE. Usually in an average flu season when I'm out shopping I'll see several and immediately move to another aisle, or if they really look sick I'll stop inhaling and only slowly exhale until I'm clear of them.

Bottom line for me is that we've been royally lied-to since this outbreak began and like you, I trust NO ONE in KS. Or, elsewhere for that matter!

BTW: Now retired, I have a HazMat background with the federal government [where I actually handled deadly live infectious agents] and although I was an early proponent of masks, I changed my tune last April after studying independent data for myself and even then the numbers just didn't add up. And when people started wearing bandannas for protection [they might as well have worn a pair of pantyhose over their heads!] I REALLY became incensed with the levels of forced compliance that were heaped on the populace.

Today I only wear a mask due to the threat of a fine or being refused service in a store, but have seen many who don't wear one... and they invariably attract disapproving glares from other shoppers as they do so.

But what bothers me just as much is how quickly those masks have become fashion statements as herds of mindless sheep willingly embrace social restrictions based upon media-generated hysteria.

Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 08/25/2020 08:20 AM

So out of curiosity, I decided to take a look and see how we were doing numbers-wise for the mask-mandated counties versus the non-mask-mandated counties since my last analysis on August 10th. Here is what my findings are:

The total number of cases for counties that had mask mandates (17 counties) on August 10th, the last time I figured the statistics, was 20,020. As of August 24th, the last day we have numbers for those 17 counties, there were a total of 24,924 cases in those counties. This is a rise of 4,904 cases over a 14-day period with an average of 350.3 cases per day.

The total number of cases for counties that did not have mask mandates (88 total counties) on August 10th, the last time I figured the statistics, was 11,710. As of August 24th, the last day we have numbers for those 88 counties, there were a total of 13,477 cases in those counties. This is a rise of 1,767 cases over a 14-day period with an average of 126.2 cases per day.

Here is a breakdown by day reported of the increase on that day for the counties with mask mandates (17 counties)

8/24 1,020 cases
8/21 726 cases
8/19 530 cases
8/17 985 cases
8/14 1,002 cases
8/12 641 cases

Here is a breakdown by day reported of the increase on that day for the counties without mask mandates (88 counties)

8/24 525 cases
8/21 240 cases
8/19 193 cases
8/17 297 cases
8/14 336 cases
8/12 176 cases

All data obtained from here:

[link to www.coronavirus.kdheks.gov (secure)]

So to make things more readable for the above data, I've decided to just combine the two charts (August 10th and August 24th) so that they read consecutively to see the numbers all together.

Here is a breakdown by day reported of the increase on that day for the counties with mask mandates (17 counties)

8/24 1,020 cases
8/21 726 cases
8/19 530 cases
8/17 985 cases
8/14 1,002 cases
8/12 641 cases
8/10 812 new cases
8/7 675 new cases
8/5 599 new cases
8/3 818 new cases
7/31 688 new cases
7/29 550 new cases
7/27 817 new cases
7/24 740 new cases
7/22 621 new cases
7/20 1,075 new cases
7/17 806 new cases
7/15 721 new cases
7/13 1,155 new cases
7/10 749 new cases
7/8 606 new cases
7/6 791 new cases
7/3 738 new cases

Here is a breakdown by day reported of the increase on that day for the counties without mask mandates (88 counties)

8/24 525 cases
8/21 240 cases
8/19 193 cases
8/17 297 cases
8/14 336 cases
8/12 176 cases
8/10 280 new cases
8/7 246 new cases
8/5 242 new cases
8/3 246 new cases
7/31 254 new cases
7/29 148 new cases
7/27 246 new cases
7/24 265 new cases
7/22 149 new cases
7/20 294 new cases
7/17 226 new cases
7/15 156 new cases
7/13 292 new cases
7/10 244 new cases
7/8 111 new cases
7/6 191 new cases
7/3 191 new cases

The basic figures for averages are as follows:

On August 10th, the rise in cases in mask-mandated counties rose an average 321.6 cases per day over a 38-day period from July 3rd through August 10th and the rise in cases rose an average of 350.3 cases over a 14-day period from August 10th through August 24th.

On August 10th, the rise in cases in non-mask-mandated counties rose an average of 94.5 cases per day over a 38-day period from July 3rd through August 10th and the rise in cases rose an average of 126.2 cases per day over a 14-day period from August 10th through August 24th.

Last Edited by TrustNoOneKS on 08/25/2020 10:53 AM

Beautifully stated! I love it.

It's great having input from someone with your prior work history.

I'm actually glad you shared what you are seeing here in Wichita. I actually went to curbside pickup at both Dillons and Wal-Mart because I refuse to mask up, so I didn't know what it looked like inside the stores, just my brief viewing of people going in and out as I do my pickup.

When my cat was gravely ill before he died, I did mask up in an emergency to get him something that I could perhaps coax him into eating in person twice and I didn't see anyone else not masked up inside the store. I can count on one hand the number of times I have had to mask up. Once when we went and got a new car and once when we got our new couches. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the car dealership and the furniture store were not forcing the issue and felt relieved to pull my mask all the way down. In the car dealership, several of the employees actually talked about how they know this is all political. There is also another mom and pop store that I do go to weekly and they don't strictly enforce, so I don't pull the mask up there, but 95% of the customers are masked. I will not mention the actual businesses by name though because you know we have that snitch line here in Wichita and I don't want to get any of them in trouble.

I too have yet to see anyone exhibiting any obvious signs of being sick either in public, both pre-mask mandate, and post-mask mandate.

Listed below are the 17 counties in which there was a mask mandate in effect since July 3rd and the rise in numbers for each day that numbers were reported, with the latest data added for August 10th through August 24th:

Allen County - 4 cases on July 3rd; 17 cases on August 10th; 23 cases on August 24th

8/24 0 new cases;; 8/21 0 new cases; 8/19 0 new cases; 8/17 1 new case; 8/14 5 new cases; 8/12 0 new cases; 8/10 0 new cases; 8/7 1 new case; 8/5 2 new cases; 8/3 0 new cases; 7/31 1 new case; 7/29 0 new cases; 7/27 2 new cases; 7/24 0 new cases; 7/22 1 new case; 7/20 1 new case; 7/17 1 new case; 7/15 0 new cases; 7/13 2 new cases; 7/10 1 new case; 7/8 0 new cases, 7/6 1 new case; 7/3 0 new cases


Atchinson County - 38 cases on July 3rd; 64 cases on August 10th; 113 cases on August 24th

8/24 25 new cases; 8/21 1 new case; 8/19 0 new cases; 8/17 4 new cases; 8/14 9 new cases; 8/12 10 new cases; 8/10 2 new cases; 8/7 0 new cases; 8/5 2 new cases; 8/3 1 new case; 7/31 3 new cases; 7/29 1 new case; 7/27 5 new cases; 7/24 2 new cases; 7/22 0 new cases; 7/20 2 new cases; 7/17 1 new case; 7/15 3 new cases; 7/13 0 new cases; 7/10 0 new cases; 7/8 2 new cases; 7/6 2 new cases; 7/3 4 new cases


Bourbon County - 28 cases on July 3rd; 67 cases on August 10th; 84 cases on August 24th

8/24 1 new case; 8/21 3 new cases; 8/19 0 new cases; 8/17 2 new cases; 8/14 7 new cases; 8/12 4 new cases; 8/10 3 new cases; 8/7 3 new cases; 8/5 2 new cases; 8/3 2 new cases; 7/31 5 new cases; 7/29 1 new case; 7/27 2 new cases; 7/24 2 new cases; 7/22 -1 new case; 7/20 3 new cases; 7/17 3 new cases; 7/15 -1 new case; 7/13 4 4 new cases; 7/10 3 new cases; 7/8 1 new case; 7/6 7 new cases; 7/3 1 new case


Crawford County - 267 cases on July 3rd; 401 cases on August 10th; 443 cases on August 24th

8/24 12 new cases; 8/21 8 new cases; 8/19 5 new cases; 8/17 3 new cases; 8/14 10 new cases; 8/12 4 new cases; 8/10 6 new cases; 8/7 3 new cases; 8/5 1 new case; 8/3 11 new cases; 7/31 5 new cases; 7/29 2 new cases; 7/27 6 new cases; 7/24 7 new cases; 7/22 9 new cases; 7/20 19 new cases; 7/17 4 new cases; 7/15 12 new cases; 7/13 15 new cases; 7/10 7 new cases; 7/8 16 new cases; 7/6 11 new cases; 7/3 4 new cases


Dickinson County - 8 cases on July 3rd; 43 cases on August 10th; 61 cases on August 24th

8/24 6 new cases; 8/21 4 new cases; 8/19 1 new case; 8/17 3 new cases; 8/14 2 new cases; 8/12 2 new cases; 8/10 1 new case; 8/7 1 new case; 8/5 2 new cases; 8/3 2 new cases; 7/31 0 new cases; 7/29 1 new case; 7/27 3 new cases; 7/24 1 new case; 7/22 0 new cases; 7/20 8 new cases; 7/17 2 new cases; 7/15 2 new cases; 7/13 5 new cases; 7/10 3 new cases; 7/8 2 new cases; 7/6 2 new cases; 7/3 0 new cases.


Douglas County - 63 cases on July 3rd; 746 cases on August 10th; 1,001 cases on August 24th

8/24 121 new cases; 8/21 29 new cases; 8/19 17 new cases; 8/17 29 new cases; 8/14 47 new cases; 8/12 12 new cases; 8/10 29 new cases; 8/7 17 new cases; 8/5 15 new cases; 8/3 22 new cases; 7/31 31 new cases; 7/29 16 new cases; 7/27 19 new cases; 7/24 45 new cases; 7/22 15 new cases; 7/20 33 new cases; 7/17 14 new cases; 7/15 36 new cases; 7/13 41 new cases; 7/10 38 new cases; 7/8 23 new cases; 7/6 103 new cases; 7/3 63 new cases


Edwards County - 7 cases on July 3rd; 11 cases on August 10th; 22 cases on August 24th

8/24 3 new cases; 8/21 0 new cases; 8/19 1 new case; 8/17 2 new cases; 8/14 5 new cases; 8/12 0 new cases; 8/10 0 new cases; 8/7 1 new case; 8/5 0 new cases; 8/3 0 new cases; 7/31 1 new case; 7/29 0 new cases; 7/27 0 new cases; 7/24 0 new cases; 7/22 0 new cases; 7/20 0 new cases; 7/17 1 new case; 7/15 0 new cases; 7/13 0 new cases; 7/10 1 new case; 7/8 0 new cases; 7/6 0 new cases; 7/3 0 new cases


Franklin County - 76 cases on July 3rd; 199 cases on August 10th; 246 cases August 24th

8/24 6 new cases; 8/21 2 new cases; 8/19 1 new case; 8/17 15 new cases; 8/14 11 new cases; 8/12 12 new cases; 8/10 16 new cases; 8/7 6 new cases; 8/5 18 new cases; 8/3 9 new cases; 7/31 3 new cases; 7/29 5 new cases; 7/27 7 new cases; 7/24 11 new cases; 7/22 6 new cases; 7/20 16 new cases; 7/17 3 new cases; 7/15 6 new cases; 7/13 4 new cases; 7/10 9 new cases; 7/8 3 new cases; 7/6 1 new case; 7/3 4 new cases


Harvey County - 45 cases on July 3rd; 209 cases on August 10th; 277 cases on August 24th

8/24 9 new cases; 8/21 4 new cases; 8/19 18 new cases; 8/17 22 new cases; 8/14 6 new cases; 8/12 9 new cases; 8/10 11 new cases; 8/7 8 new cases; 8/5 10 new cases; 8/3 15 new cases; 7/31 15 new cases; 7/29 7 new cases; 7/27 3 new cases; 7/24 13 new cases; 7/22 8 new cases; 7/20 11 new cases; 7/17 9 new cases; 7/15 9 new cases; 7/13 24 new cases; 7/10 11 new cases; 7/8 3 new cases; 7/6 7 new cases; 7/3 6 new cases


Jewell County - 4 cases on July 3rd; 12 cases on August 10th; 14 cases on August 24th

8/24 0 new cases; 8/21 0 new cases; 8/19 0 new cases; 8/17 1 new case; 8/14 1 new case; 8/12 0 new cases; 8/10 1 new case; 8/7 1 new case; 8/5 0 new cases; 8/3 1 new case; 7/31 1 new case; 7/29 0 new cases; 7/27 1 new case; 7/24 2 new cases; 7/22 0 new cases; 7/20 0 new cases; 7/17 1 new case; 7/15 0 new cases; 7/13 0 new cases; 7/10 0 new cases; 7/8 0 new cases; 7/6 0 new cases; 7/3 0 new cases


Johnson County - 2,066 cases on July 3rd; 5,913 cases on August 10th; 7,418 cases on August 24th

8/24 360 new cases; 8/21 270 new cases; 8/19 173 new cases; 8/17 258 new cases; 8/14 237 new cases; 8/12 207 new cases; 8/10 276 new cases; 8/7 203 new cases; 8/5 182 new cases; 8/3 257 new cases; 7/31 182 new cases; 7/29 170 new cases; 7/27 262 new cases; 7/24 223 new cases; 7/22 225 new cases; 7/20 279 new cases; 7/17 284 new cases; 7/15 210 new cases; 7/13 356 new cases; 7/10 239 new cases; 7/8 216 new cases; 7/6 283 new cases; 7/3 196 new cases


Mitchell County - 4 cases on July 3rd; 27 cases on August 10th; 28 cases on August 24th

8/24 1 new case; 8/21 0 new cases; 8/19 -1 new cases; 8/17 0 new cases; 8/14 1 new case; 8/12 0 new cases; 8/10 0 new cases; 8/7 0 new cases; 8/5 0 new cases; 8/3 0 new cases; 7/31 0 new cases; 7/29 1 new case; 7/27 4 new cases; 7/24 1 new case; 7/22 0 new cases; 7/20 2 new cases; 7/17 3 new cases; 7/15 3 new cases; 7/13 2 new cases; 7/10 6 new cases; 7/8 1 new case; 7/6 0 new cases; 7/3 0 new cases


Montgomery County - 41 cases on July 3rd; 162 cases on August 10th; 200 cases on August 24th

8/24 12 new cases; 8/21 3 new cases; 8/19 4 new cases; 8/17 13 new cases; 8/14 5 new cases; 8/12 1 new case; 8/10 5 new cases; 8/7 5 new cases; 8/5 3 new cases; 8/3 9 new cases; 7/31 12 new cases; 7/29 6 new cases; 7/27 13 new cases; 7/24 3 new cases; 7/22 4 new cases; 7/20 28 new cases; 7/17 5 new cases; 7/15 2 new cases; 7/13 9 new cases; 7/10 5 new cases; 7/8 4 new cases; 7/6 8 new cases; 7/3 5 new cases


Reno County - 84 cases on July 3rd; 291 cases on August 10th; 595 cases on August 24th

8/24 40 new cases; 8/21 48 new cases; 8/19 30 new cases; 8/17 59 new cases; 8/14 58 new cases; 8/12 69 new cases; 8/10 22 new cases; 8/7 18 new cases; 8/5 12 new cases; 8/3 10 new cases; 7/31 12 new cases; 7/29 3 new cases; 7/27 17 new cases; 7/24 18 new cases; 7/22 4 new cases; 7/20 20 new cases; 7/17 14 new cases; 7/15 0 new cases; 7/13 20 new cases; 7/10 20 new cases; 7/8 5 new cases; 7/6 12 new cases; 7/3 10 new cases


Sedgwick County - 1,564 cases on July 3rd; 5,207 cases on August 10th; 6,652 cases on August 24th (City of Wichita mandate was effective July 3rd the rest of the county became effective July 10th)

8/24 266 new cases; 8/21 174 new cases; 8/19 110 new cases; 8/17 384 new cases; 8/14 384 new cases; 8/12 127 new cases; 8/10 272 new cases; 8/7 212 new cases; 8/5 217 new cases; 8/3 310 new cases; 7/31 245 new cases; 7/29 135 new cases; 7/27 237 new cases; 7/24 211 new cases; 7/22 206 new cases; 7/20 372 new cases; 7/17 195 new cases; 7/15 173 new cases; 7/13 348 new cases; 7/10 152 new cases; 7/8 172 new cases; 7/6 186 new cases; 7/3 196 new cases


Shawnee County - 759 cases on July 3rd; 1,588 cases on August 10th; 1,986 cases on August 24th

8/24 58 new cases; 8/21 72 new cases; 8/19 69 new cases; 8/17 67 new cases; 8/14 67 new cases; 8/12 65 new cases; 8/10 66 new cases; 8/7 46 new cases; 8/5 33 new cases; 8/3 45 new cases; 7/31 24 new cases; 7/29 50 new cases; 7/27 56 new cases; 7/24 31 new cases; 7/22 32 new cases; 7/20 59 new cases; 7/17 54 new cases; 7/15 44 new cases; 7/13 86 new cases; 7/10 84 new cases; 7/8 53 new cases; 7/6 66 new cases; 7/3 90 new cases


Wyandotte County - 2,553 cases on July 3rd 5,063 cases on August 10th; 5,761 cases on August 24th

8/24 100 new cases; 8/21 108 new cases; 8/19 102 new cases; 8/17 122 new cases; 8/14 147 new cases; 8/12 119 new cases; 8/10 102 new cases; 8/7 150 new cases; 8/5 100 new cases; 8/3 124 new cases; 7/31 148 new cases; 7/29 152 new cases; 7/27 180 new cases; 7/24 170 new cases; 7/22 112 new cases; 7/20 222 new cases; 7/17 212 new cases; 7/15 222 new cases; 7/13 239 new cases; 7/10 170 new cases; 7/8 105 new cases; 7/6 102 new cases; 7/3 159 new cases

All data obtained from here:

[link to www.coronavirus.kdheks.gov (secure)]

Last Edited by TrustNoOneKS on 08/25/2020 10:18 AM

Sorry to hear about your cat - I remember that sweet animal curled up on a sofa from the picture you once used as your avatar here on GLP! Speaking of cats, there's been a nasty killer virus this year floating around among the feral colony I feed out here in the SE part of town. I'm surprised the local media hasn't latched onto -and exploited- that like they have everything else.

It's always GREAT to read your threads! Keep up the good work!

Bullshit

Thanks bunches!

I didn't know about the recent issues with the ferals. I miss feeding my feral kitties at my old apartment complex and watching the kittens play, but have found at least one around here that I have been feeding. I don't think the one around here is a true feral, but more an abandoned family kitty. She's super sweet and I even let her come in for a few minutes at a time sometimes. Of course there are hissy fits all around.

I really do miss my Hagar and it was just so shocking. He was only 8 and even the vet was shocked by the blood work when it came back.

I just want to update that Sedgwick County does continue under a mask mandate until September 7th, with the county public health officer adding that he may make it go through the end of the year.

Sedgwick County mask mandate could be extended

"The Sedgwick County mask mandate could be extended through the end of the year if the Sedgwick County Health Officer gets his way.

. . .

That extension pushes the mask mandate at least through the Labor Day weekend."

[link to foxkansas.com]

End of the year? It's sickening how totalitarian the State officials are being on this.





My response:



Last Edited by TrustNoOneKS on 08/25/2020 11:35 AM

I really hope this committee listens to him!

Attorney General says pandemic is highlighting legal issues with emergency powers law

"Attorney General Derek Schmidt said there are many legal problems with how Kansas is operating during a state of emergency. So, he wants to prevent problems in future emergencies.

Schmidt and Governor Laura Kelly have clashed multiple times during the coronavirus outbreak.

. . .

He wants lawmakers to fix the wording in the law or the state could be hit with lawsuits.

. . .

Schmidt worried that lawmakers might be giving the governor powers of the legislative branch, which he said isn’t allowed.

. . .

He also said a constitutional amendment could be an option to put to the voters to determine how government should operate during an emergency."

[link to www.ksn.com (secure)]

I say put it to a vote!

But, but, but I thought we were a beacon to the rest of the country on how masks work!

Kansas at ‘the end of the first quarter’ of coronavirus

"The state’s top doctor is warning Kansans that we are just at the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic.

. . .

According to the White House, Kansas has the 16th highest case rate and the 6th highest positive test rate in the country."

[link to www.ksn.com (secure)]

So we aren’t in Kansas anymore Toto?

As I have stated all along counties in Kansas that did not enforce mask mandates had lower growth of COVID than the counties that did have mask mandates!

Kelly falsely credits mask mandate for getting COVID under control

"Numbers compiled from KDHE’s own reporting show counties with masks mandates experienced more case growth than counties without such requirements. That’s also true of the counties that adopted the governor’s latest mandate in November.

Over the first four weeks after her new mask mandate was adopted, the 38 counties that adopted the mandate added 2,385 cases per 100,000 of population, going from 5,599 to 7,986 — a 43% increase. But the 42 counties that never adopted a mask mandate experienced lower case growth; they went from 5,448 cases per 100,000 of population to 7,682, adding fewer cases (2,235) and having a smaller case increase (41%).

Governor Kelly offered no justification for her claim, but the available data doesn’t support it."

[link to sentinelksmo.org (secure)]

Wow! It's actually in writing - something I was trying to prove the day I created this thread!

30 facts you NEED to know: Your Covid Cribsheet

"In Kansas, counties without mask mandates actually had fewer Covid “cases” than counties with mask mandates. And despite masks being very common in Japan, they had their worst flu outbreak in decades in 2019."

[link to off-guardian.org (secure)] (Emphasis added)

Last Edited by TrustNoOneKS on 09/25/2021 03:49 PM