I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( | |
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User ID: 77430620 Germany 08/12/2020 05:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Start with the New Testament, then look up 'Early Christian Writings' on a search engine. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79256143 United States 08/12/2020 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( How can an honest person read about the slaughter of little kids and not draw the conclusion that this cannot be from a holy righteous being, in other words, is YHWH actually Satan? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72453404 I know the Caananites were evil and deserved punishment, but murdering a child is never a good and just act. KJV Proverbs 29:9 If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76781814 United States 08/12/2020 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Thats because these are two separate religions/gods in a single canon. You can go ahead and burn the old testament if you want. No Christian needs it. Are you kidding me? Everything in the Old Testiment has everything to do with Jesus Christ. And if you want to decipher Biblical prophecy the Old Testament is a must. The God acting in the Old Testament is the same God acting in the new. God doesn't change. |
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User ID: 77430620 Germany 08/12/2020 05:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Thats because these are two separate religions/gods in a single canon. You can go ahead and burn the old testament if you want. No Christian needs it. Are you kidding me? Everything in the Old Testiment has everything to do with Jesus Christ. And if you want to decipher Biblical prophecy the Old Testament is a must. The God acting in the Old Testament is the same God acting in the new. God doesn't change. Well, consider the modern bible has been translated so many times and was put together by an elite group that had their own interest in mind and then went out and murdered tons of people and then fought wars in the name of God. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Emre_1974tr User ID: 79256760 Turkey 08/12/2020 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Bible is not from God. It is human writings book and not holy. Quran is from God. You must read It. [link to islamicbook.com] |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 78018011 United States 08/12/2020 06:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( How can an honest person read about the slaughter of little kids and not draw the conclusion that this cannot be from a holy righteous being, in other words, is YHWH actually Satan? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72453404 I know the Caananites were evil and deserved punishment, but murdering a child is never a good and just act. You don't know What God did. He probably recycled them and sent them right back to live a full life, but not as a Caananite. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 78018011 United States 08/12/2020 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Bible is not from God. It is human writings book and not holy. Quoting: Emre_1974tr 79256760 Quran is from God. You must read It. [link to islamicbook.com] Who knew? I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78433380 United States 08/12/2020 06:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Speaks for itself doesn't it OP. Any free thinker would know what is up immediately upon introspection of what the essence of such a 'god' is all about, any searcher after the actual Truth about this world, one who is not as programmed, would reach the same conclusion and admittedly withdraw one's love from such an imposter, as the one in the holy bible, the 'god' who is not the genuine 'god' of creation, is thus, a Usurper of the real creator who is not of the world, just as Jesus' Kingdom is not of the world, and those who belong to Jesus and the Father are not of this hell creation. The 'god' of the bible, the 'god' of this world, who is a sadist and mass murderer is essentially one of the faces of Satan. For he has two faces, the other is not seeming Evil, but only because it hides its demonic essence better and is holy appearing, but is counterfeit also, and a Usurper of the Divine outside of this hell hole 'reality' which is in actual fact a Hologram. So no matter the excuses given (excusing the inexcusable, justifying the unjustifiable) by Evil apologists, apologising for the crimes of their Evil Usurper 'god' of this world. The Truth needs no ones approval or acceptable to be the Truth. It stands the test of time and is undeniable to those who truly value it, and give it a high enough value in their hearts. The 'god' of this virtual 'reality' is all about cruelty and rapine, and 'his' creation, this world, is all based on violence, humiliation, exploitation, degradation, waste and Evil. It is so down to the very essence behind the intent of its design, is of a wholly Evil essence, inherently Evil, and woven into the fabric of this 'reality', this Hologram, which is reflected at every level and at every iteration of his putrid 'word' and the Evil intent that comes with it, in the whole of Earth and this Universe, and in the very building blocks of its foundation, which is likewise of an entirely Evil nature, and is reflected in every piece of the Hologram and in the whole of this creation of matter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78476599 United States 08/12/2020 06:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Bible is not from God. It is human writings book and not holy. Quoting: Emre_1974tr 79256760 Quran is from God. You must read It. [link to islamicbook.com] Who knew? 29 Sexually Explicit, Profane and Dirty Stories and Verses in the Bible. Quoting: [link to callingchristians.com (secure)] [link to callingchristians.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 79256824 Nigeria 08/12/2020 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( How can an honest person read about the slaughter of little kids and not draw the conclusion that this cannot be from a holy righteous being, in other words, is YHWH actually Satan? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72453404 I know the Caananites were evil and deserved punishment, but murdering a child is never a good and just act. Everything about the movement of the ancient Israelites from Egypt to the Promised Land is a type or pattern of things to come. What happened to the Canaanites is a pattern of what will ultimately happen to people who do not do the will of God generally. When it will be happening, people will begin to judge God: "How could a God who calls Himself holy allow the destruction of even children?" For example see: The whole thing rubs me the wrong way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41846532 At every level we were handed over to our enemies, so that our enemies could cause us affliction, and through that affliction the Heavenly Father and Christ hope to acquire refined laborers. What is next? Flee? That too reeks of corruption. Our lands where given over to our enemies, so it could be turned into "Mystery Babylon". For what purpose? To force us to flee after being refined through affliction to "spread the good word and bear testimony to the lands we are forced to flee to". As the Apostle Thomas was sold into slavery, so he might bear testimony to the lands of the East during his time. All I see is troublemakers, bringing trouble to our doorsteps, for their own profit. Much like a man who tries, and tries and tries, to be loving, kind and honor a treacherous wife; a wife that causes him nothing but misery through her fornication and scheming, we are emotionally and spiritually spent as a nation and as peoples. From the front we face the unrelenting assault of Satan and his forces. From the right and the left, we face our own archers raining arrows down on our encampments; and from the rear we are stabbed with spears by our own supposed allies. This is our land, these are our communities, cities and fields. We will resist until the bitter end. If the Heavenly Father is truly a faithful creator, then let him be faithful. If Jesus Christ is truly a savior, then let him save. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71580069 United Kingdom 08/12/2020 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Bible is not from God. It is human writings book and not holy. Quoting: Emre_1974tr 79256760 Quran is from God. You must read It. [link to islamicbook.com] The Quran is toilet paper written by enslaved non Muslims who purposely translated the old and new testament and mixed it with paganism knowing that anyone with half a brain would see it for the phony book it ks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13382871 United States 08/12/2020 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Fear not OP. God didn't write that shit. God doesn't want that shit. It's all filtered through stone age crazy people who wanted to control and exploit others not like themselves. Seek the Source. It's inside yoy. Always has been. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79255585 Australia 08/12/2020 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Bible is not from God. It is human writings book and not holy. Quoting: Emre_1974tr 79256760 Quran is from God. You must read It. [link to islamicsfucking-goats.com] Lol |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22715462 Canada 08/12/2020 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( How can an honest person read about the slaughter of little kids and not draw the conclusion that this cannot be from a holy righteous being, in other words, is YHWH actually Satan? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72453404 I know the Caananites were evil and deserved punishment, but murdering a child is never a good and just act. I LOVE MIDGETS s compiled the bible and imposed it on the brainwashed masses for their own purposes. If you take it for a historical document in any way, you are brain dead. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76288549 United States 08/12/2020 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( It had to do with eliminating future run-ins with those children who'd grow up and seek vengeance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79237344 That is The truth of the matter! Remember the story of Queen Esther? The first king, Saul, was commanded by the prophet Samuel to finally wipe out Amalek. Saul was victorious against the Amalekites, but spared the choicest of their flocks and the Amalekite king, Agag. When Samuel found out about Saul’s disobedience, Saul lost his right to kingship. Samuel then killed Agag himself. However, before he was killed, Agag sired a child who would keep Amalek’s lineage alive. Some 500 years later, one of this child’s descendants was Haman the Agagite, of Purim fame. This Haman was the one who wanted all of Esther's people killed. Compare that to what's recorded in Exodus. Exodus 23 28 And I will send hornets before you, which shall drive out the Hivites, the Canaanites, and the Hittites from before you. 29 I will not drive them out from before you in one year, lest the land become desolate and the wild beasts multiply against you. 30 Little by little I will drive them out from before you, until you have increased and possess the land. Same God, same Bible! Why wasn't King David allowed to build a temple to God? 1 Chronicles 22 6 Then he called for his son Solomon and charged him to build a house for the Lord, the God of Israel. 7 David said to Solomon: “My son, I had it in my heart to build a house for the Name of the Lord my God. 8 But this word of the Lord came to me: ‘You have shed much blood and have fought many wars. You are not to build a house for my Name, because you have shed much blood on the earth in my sight. 9 But you will have a son who will be a man of peace and rest, and I will give him rest from all his enemies on every side. His name will be Solomon, and I will grant Israel peace and quiet during his reign. 10 He is the one who will build a house for my Name. He will be my son, and I will be his father. And I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.’ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79099798 United States 08/12/2020 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( God of Jesus: "Love your enemies" (Luke 6:27-28) God of Moses: "Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them." (Numbers 25:16-17) God of Jesus: "Anyone who does not love his brother is of the devil." (1 John 3:10); "Love does no harm to its neighbor" (Romans 13:10) God of Moses: "Go back and forth killing your brother and friend and neighbor" (Exodus 32:27) God of Jesus: "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy." (John 10:10) God of Moses: "Pursue, kill and completely destroy them." (Jeremiah 50:21) God of Jesus: "Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." (1 Peter 5:8) God of Moses: "Like a lion I will devour them." (Hosea 13:8) God of Jesus: "God is love." (1 John 4:16) God of Moses: "Kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man" (Numbers 31:17) God of Jesus: "Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me." (Mark 9:37) God of Moses: "Put to death men and women, children and infants" (1 Samuel 15:2-3) God of Jesus: "The devil was a murderer from the beginning." (John 8:44) God of Moses: "Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children" (Ezekiel 9:6) God of Jesus: "The devil is a liar and the father of lies." (John 8:44) God of Moses: "Put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours." (1 Kings 22:23) God of Jesus: "He who does what is sinful is of the devil" (1 John 3:8) God of Moses: "Do not leave alive anything that breathes" (Deuteronomy 20:16) God of Jesus: "God so loved the world.." (John 3:16) God of Moses: "I will wipe humankind ..from the face of the Earth." (Genesis 6:7) God of Jesus: "For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone" (James 1:13) God of Moses: "He tempted Abraham" (Genesis 22:1) 1. Most of the Hebrew verses are taken wildly out of contextx. 2. The Greek NT goes to great lengths to 'prove' that it is the successor to the Hebrew Scriptures. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79099798 United States 08/12/2020 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Fear not OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13382871 God didn't write that shit. God doesn't want that shit. It's all filtered through stone age crazy people who wanted to control and exploit others not like themselves. Seek the Source. It's inside yoy. Always has been. G-d most certainly did write that and for good reason. Your new age hogwash is just that. The book of judges shows what happens when people follow after their own heart unabated. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79099798 United States 08/12/2020 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Speaks for itself doesn't it OP. Any free thinker would know what is up immediately upon introspection of what the essence of such a 'god' is all about, any searcher after the actual Truth about this world, one who is not as programmed, would reach the same conclusion and admittedly withdraw one's love from such an imposter, as the one in the holy bible, the 'god' who is not the genuine 'god' of creation, is thus, a Usurper of the real creator who is not of the world, just as Jesus' Kingdom is not of the world, and those who belong to Jesus and the Father are not of this hell creation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78433380 The 'god' of the bible, the 'god' of this world, who is a sadist and mass murderer is essentially one of the faces of Satan. For he has two faces, the other is not seeming Evil, but only because it hides its demonic essence better and is holy appearing, but is counterfeit also, and a Usurper of the Divine outside of this hell hole 'reality' which is in actual fact a Hologram. So no matter the excuses given (excusing the inexcusable, justifying the unjustifiable) by Evil apologists, apologising for the crimes of their Evil Usurper 'god' of this world. The Truth needs no ones approval or acceptable to be the Truth. It stands the test of time and is undeniable to those who truly value it, and give it a high enough value in their hearts. The 'god' of this virtual 'reality' is all about cruelty and rapine, and 'his' creation, this world, is all based on violence, humiliation, exploitation, degradation, waste and Evil. It is so down to the very essence behind the intent of its design, is of a wholly Evil essence, inherently Evil, and woven into the fabric of this 'reality', this Hologram, which is reflected at every level and at every iteration of his putrid 'word' and the Evil intent that comes with it, in the whole of Earth and this Universe, and in the very building blocks of its foundation, which is likewise of an entirely Evil nature, and is reflected in every piece of the Hologram and in the whole of this creation of matter. If that were the case then why does the NT go to such great lengths to prove that Jesus comes from YH'VH? Mosts the proofs are trash, but still why go through such lengths? Why not create a stand along religion? Why attach yourself to a history that you don't agree with? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78424353 United States 08/12/2020 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Jesus is the “Word” of God and He alone is the ONLY perfect man and He alone is Truth and speaks truth. Jesus talked about “the lying pen of the scribes” so if He talked about it, they did it! In the old testament theres a passage where God talks tells the J’s that he’s disgusted by the stink of the burnt offerings of slaughtered animals and intimates that He’s not the God they are worshipping! |
Fist in the Box
User ID: 71032245 United States 08/12/2020 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Bible is not from God. It is human writings book and not holy. Quoting: Emre_1974tr 79256760 Quran is from God. You must read It. [link to islamicbook.com] The Bible is from God, proved by many prophetic passages. The Koran is garbage from the Devil, the wicked father of lies, who pretended to be angel Gabriel. The Muslim caliphate is the beast of Revelation. Its deadly head-wound was suffered in 1924 when the Ottoman empire was crushed. But Obama, Islam's Mahdi and Christianity's Antichrist, works with Muslim Brotherhood to revive the caliphate. [link to youtu.be (secure)] [link to youtu.be (secure)] Last Edited by Fist in the Box on 08/12/2020 05:37 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79099798 United States 08/12/2020 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Jesus is the “Word” of God and He alone is the ONLY perfect man and He alone is Truth and speaks truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78424353 Jesus talked about “the lying pen of the scribes” so if He talked about it, they did it! In the old testament theres a passage where God talks tells the J’s that he’s disgusted by the stink of the burnt offerings of slaughtered animals and intimates that He’s not the God they are worshipping! 1. That is purely hellenistic and nothing to do with Torah. G-d is not a man, nor the son of man. 2. Jeremiah said that and you are taking it out of context. 3. G-d did say that, but you clearly don't understand the meaning behind it and are taking it out of context. I can elaborate on all the above points to better correct you, if you like. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79258383 08/12/2020 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Jesus Christ gave them another chance, when he died on the cross, the bible says he went and preached to those who died in Noah's time. 1Peter 3:18-20 For Christ suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, because they formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. Those who had never had God's gospel were given a chance to accept God's terms become children of God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79099798 United States 08/12/2020 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to love God but when I read the old testament about the sanctioned murder of children I am turned off:( Jesus Christ gave them another chance, when he died on the cross, the bible says he went and preached to those who died in Noah's time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79258383 1Peter 3:18-20 For Christ suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, because they formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. Those who had never had God's gospel were given a chance to accept God's terms become children of God. And YH'VH said that He wasn't a man and each man died for there own sins ... |