Kratom for pain relief? Help needed please

Oh wow, so sorry for your injury but at least you found relief that works and allows you to function! I'll take what you've recommended and pass it on to my husband. Epsom salts are something I totally forgot about! I will check out those videos aswell.

We pulled out the tens unit and have been using that with lidocaine patches and unhealthy amounts of ibuprofen. He used to have a weird water type machine that did hot and cold but I havent a clue where its gone!

Thanks again

That is an issue I should have mentioned as well, I use it for pain relief but also recreationally. So be mindful and do what works for you.

What I wanted to mention though is if you have a store you can get to that's dedicated to kratom you should go there instead of a corner store or something.

It's not only cheaper usually but you know what you are getting there, some gas station stuff has artificial stuff in it to make stronger.

Normal dose is 1-2 grams or 2-3 if you've been taking it for a while.

And finally, no problem, happy to help. It stinks hurting all of the time.

I appreciate your input Fluffy, thanks!

The reason why I brought up it being Illegal in Alabama is because it is a major crime there. A buddy of mine got caught with a bag coming out of GA and is still fighting the court. I don't know where you are at is because don't have it in AL...

There is alot of propaganda against it due to big pharma.

The poppy is natural, so it couldnt hurt you.

Na I say buy it online in bulk to save money, find a nice reputable source that has high quality. Also I recommend staying away from the super green malay or whatever it’s called, that one really messed with my pancreas.

Kratom leaves have no relation to poppy flowers, kratom is more related to coffee than anything.

coffee with Opium? hmmm

There are a few places where we are vacationing that seem to be speciality shops or combination shops (Kratom and CBD) so we will try there first. Sure don't want some that has artificial crap!

Yeah it does suck! I haven't saw my husband hurting this bad in years and want him to enjoy his time off best he can. Thank you again

The point is that even so called natural stuff can be dangerous, so the criteria needs to be adjusted.

And Thailand made Kratom illegal due to common addiction issues.

Not saying it cannot be helpful but reminding it like any medication/substance needs maturity and caution to be optimally beneficial

Yes I am in Alabama, where they ban everything, lol! That sucks for your buddy, very unfair and unfortunate. I hope the best for his outcome in court.

We can ride over the state line in Tennessee and as long as we don't bring it over then we are fine.

Yep. Don't give the cops a reason to throw the book at you here...

Yeah, I stick with plain old maeng da, I branched out to the horned strains awhile ago and ended up with a massive headache and irritable as heck. Didn't like it much.

Never had issues with the maeng.

Graperuit juice helps it work better.

For those of you using the powder, try oblate pouches. Dissolves faster than capsules. They have them on Amazon and there's YouTube videos that show how to use them.

Maeng Da red vein kratom works as well as a lortab for my constant arthritis from a back break. Go ahead and find edibles. Not just CBD. If it isn't legal, learn to make them. I use a dose of Kratom in the morning and an edible in the evening. No pills. No Tylenol or naproxen. Nature provides and I can work and play like normal.

Be careful.

Not sure if it is just the "gas station" version or if it is the same for pure leaf. I have both, but the easiest and most effective is K Chill blue shots.

However - it IS addicting as hell

It might be the combination of added ingredients they mix in that makes it so powerful. They have a sort of generic valium type ingredient that ppl in Russia use for depression. It is basically turbo charged Gabba that can cross the blood brain barrier. The effect is quite relaxing, euphoric almost, and somehow at right dosages gives some energy and wakefullness boost, but that is likely partly due to the pain control. I wake up with horrible arthritus and after a shot I can move and function.

The problem is you go from taking it a couple times a week, to every day, to several times a day. The withdrawal is similar to vicodin or percocet chills and nausea, with that weird crawling spine feeling.

It also slows down your digestive system and can cause constipation... which can be good short term if you have IBS or spastic colon where food goes through too fast. It reduces appetite too and I think part of that is you get time to digest the food you did eat.

So its a terrible toss up Does it work? Hell yes. Is it worth it? I don't know. The cost can get up there as it is 60 bucks for a box of 12 shots.

If you can get the pure leaf - do that. If you are desperate for relief, have the money, and don't care about addiction... try the K Chill blue. Maybe you have better will power.

Thanks Elevatorguy! Nature always provides, and it sounds like you found what works for you! That is great success, with a broken back?! Wow!

Since it's the most recommended I will definitely get him to try the Maeng Da red first off.

Most everything is illegal where I live, with CBD being the only exception. He tried the sublingual drops, gelcaps, gummies, and flower CBD but so far it has offered minimal relief other than muscle relaxation and decreased anxiety, and no pain relief for him.

I know how to make tons of different types of edibles, but we quit using THC a few years ago and really would rather not go that route at this time. I do appreciate you recommending it though, I know the benefits are much better as opposed to CBD alone, no denying that!

Here is a company that includes lab results with the kratom. Superspeciosa.com The have coupons and are super fast at shipping. Their supper speciosa is 1.7 % mitragynine, that active component

Great post.

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and paraboil them for a few minutes but not with the large pot with a tight lid you are going to use for obvious reasons

Thanks Mr. Sanchez! I will look into the shots and see what the ingredients and such are.

Alot have warned about addiction. I absolutely understand that and appreciate the warnings and concerns from you all. I will urge my husband to take that into consideration if he decides to try kratom. I am just trying to find something natural to provide temporary relief so he doesn't have to keep eating ibuprofen or go get a pain med script.

Sorry to hear this OP. Find/make some full spectrum cbd oil. There are caregivers who will supply you for free if you hunt hard enough. Mix it with good quality coconut oil and your body won't filter so much of the initial dose. You can also use it like that as a suppository, getting to work much more efficiently. Just syringe it into gel caps.

As silly as this sounds, he must exercise too, slight stretches etc and yoga too. I could go on...

Best of health to you both.

pain relief = red or green vein.

white is typically meant for energy and does't have the pain-relieving alkaloids in it in the concentration which the red vein has it.

Maeng Da is a good strain for all 3 vein types.

OP... I agree with what Don Draper said, best to get it online if you can.

Been taking it three years and I've seen no dependency or withdrawals.

Have much the same back problems, but in April a chunk broke off the herniated disc and jammed into a nerve root, I woke up one morning crippled and screaming in pain. I finally realized I needed to raise my dose, I began taking one tablespoon, level and measured, of Red Bali every two to four hours.

Finally got back surgery in July, surgeon wanted five days of no kratom before surgery. I ended up in the hospital for two days before surgery just for pain control, and an extra day in the hospital after same-day surgery.

I'm still recovering and back to the dosage that sustained me for 2 1/2 years.

I think all the tales of addiction and withdrawal come from people who take it for a high, then they take more and more to repeat that feeling. My opinion, taken at medicinal levels, it far less of a problem. I just haven't seen any problems myself.

The surgery only stopped the leg pain, I still have high intensity pain in the low back, and I'm left with a half numb foot.

PS - I've used red and green in the past, but now I take white in the morning, it does relieve pain, without any drowsiness.

Read the reviews for joint pain for ancestral supplements trachea product and their bone marrow product on bezozan.

Quercetin will help with the calcification.

A good plant based calcium/magnesium like bone strength by naturelo would be helpful.

Thanks!

And we know the importance of exercise and stretches! Even down to the way you get out of bed in the morning can make a big difference in back pain.

Great basic info, easy to remember, thanks alot

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Never heard of those, thank you! I will look into these.