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~Newton's Own~
User ID: 77801149 United States 08/13/2020 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ~Newton's Own~ Is gathering and looting, protesting dumb? Is shopping for grocieries dumb? Is a huge funeral in a church dumb? If not, why is having church an hour and a half once a week dumb? Its all dumb, and an expression of naivety and ignorance. If this is about God, where the is he? If he was doing his job this wouldn't even be a topic. Now you attack God in your ignorance? Lol. God has provided that church with a leader that has a backbone. That's how God works. Its not entirely overt to the undecerning masses. So the age old conundrum of the all powerfull,in full control deity that just cant seem to get his little apprentice to stop causing mischief. I need more faith right, that's the typical retort, isn't it? You can believe what you want, but your obvious disdain for people of faith, that choose faith and worship, is plain to see. Some people value things diffently than you, they should be allowed their choice, same as you, with no predjudice or bias. A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once. Fear cuts deeper than swords. #Notmypresident. |
~Newton's Own~
User ID: 77801149 United States 08/13/2020 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If people can gather and protest, if state funerals can be held in a church, people should be able to gather and worship God if they choose to do so. They are all taking a risk with the virus, but you can't glorify protests and looting and deny people church. Thats bias. A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once. Fear cuts deeper than swords. #Notmypresident. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75679511 United States 08/13/2020 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511 Its all dumb, and an expression of naivety and ignorance. If this is about God, where the is he? If he was doing his job this wouldn't even be a topic. Now you attack God in your ignorance? Lol. God has provided that church with a leader that has a backbone. That's how God works. Its not entirely overt to the undecerning masses. So the age old conundrum of the all powerfull,in full control deity that just cant seem to get his little apprentice to stop causing mischief. I need more faith right, that's the typical retort, isn't it? You can believe what you want, but your obvious disdain for people of faith, that choose faith and worship, is plain to see. Some people value things diffently than you, they should be allowed their choice, same as you, with no predjudice or bias. You assume too much, my god wants me to challenge and question him. |
~Newton's Own~
User ID: 77801149 United States 08/13/2020 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ~Newton's Own~ Now you attack God in your ignorance? Lol. God has provided that church with a leader that has a backbone. That's how God works. Its not entirely overt to the undecerning masses. So the age old conundrum of the all powerfull,in full control deity that just cant seem to get his little apprentice to stop causing mischief. I need more faith right, that's the typical retort, isn't it? You can believe what you want, but your obvious disdain for people of faith, that choose faith and worship, is plain to see. Some people value things diffently than you, they should be allowed their choice, same as you, with no predjudice or bias. You assume too much, my god wants me to challenge and question him. And that is your right and gift, to believe as you will, and worship or pray as you will. Would you want someone taking that right from you? A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once. Fear cuts deeper than swords. #Notmypresident. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77686247 United States 08/13/2020 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grace Community Church held in-person services on Sunday, and pastor John MacArthur told CNN that 6,000 or 7,000 people showed up. Quoting: Goneviral The crowd size defies a state order released at the end of July that limits indoor attendance at a place of worship to 25 percent of a building capacity or a maximum of 100 attendees, whichever is lower. [link to thehill.com (secure)] All should do it - ignore criminal establishment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75679511 United States 08/13/2020 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511 So the age old conundrum of the all powerfull,in full control deity that just cant seem to get his little apprentice to stop causing mischief. I need more faith right, that's the typical retort, isn't it? You can believe what you want, but your obvious disdain for people of faith, that choose faith and worship, is plain to see. Some people value things diffently than you, they should be allowed their choice, same as you, with no predjudice or bias. You assume too much, my god wants me to challenge and question him. And that is your right and gift, to believe as you will, and worship or pray as you will. Would you want someone taking that right from you? Loaded question but I'll bite. Under normal circumstances, of course not. But these are not normal circumstances and can get people killed, you good sir or ma'am are promoting the spread of a deadly virus using virtue as the vehicle, and in turn promoting ignorance. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77011626 08/13/2020 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too, because in two or three weeks I can read about half of them getting the virus, Im pro-idiot and fully support the fools gathering. Just as long as you've also snickered when pro-BLM/Antifa leftists have gathered in large groups over the past few months, you're fine and not full of pro-Karen liberal bullshit. |
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Gorgol
User ID: 77843037 Netherlands 08/13/2020 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is actually awesome for Satan, 7000 sheep who bring a cross to a gunfight , end up like they always do, in a mass grave forsaken by their phony god Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75500782 Why don't you go shove the long end of a Satanic cross up your Covid ass It's already "right side up" for ya Well done, Californian Christians! Last Edited by Gorgol on 08/13/2020 02:24 PM Gorgol -No Jab, No Jitter |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78090287 United States 08/13/2020 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511 Me too, because in two or three weeks I can read about half of them getting the virus, Im pro-idiot and fully support the fools gathering. With a 99% survival rate, I'm not sure their worried about it, their faith and worship is more important to them, as it should be. Well that's because they started fudging the numbers when everyone started to panic, go back to the real data from jan-march....that's way more accurate. Deny it all you want, this is just the first one, there will be more. And its still early, this thing could incubate for years like rabies. If people can riot and loot, gather for protests, have huge 2 week state funerals, gathering in a church for it, go shopping for groceries, people should be able to have church. Period. ^yes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75679511 United States 08/13/2020 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too, because in two or three weeks I can read about half of them getting the virus, Im pro-idiot and fully support the fools gathering. Ooooh... because you think this is a real pandemic! Prove its not, I have an entire planet falling apart to confirm my assertions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77011626 08/13/2020 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Loaded question but I'll bite. Under normal circumstances, of course not. But these are not normal circumstances and can get people killed, you good sir or ma'am are promoting the spread of a deadly virus using virtue as the vehicle, and in turn promoting ignorance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511 For one thing, Sweden never locked down and their rates of illness and deaths are not so much higher than they are for surrounding Northern Euro countries that did shutdown. Plus their economy hasn't been trashed leading to way more despair, hardship and suffering. For another things, studies of mask wearing have shown it's way less effective than the Karens of society have assumed or believed. Ultimately, I don't mind giving people like you some slack if you've at least not been dumbass liberals/leftists in general when it comes to other issues and public figures. |
~Newton's Own~
User ID: 77801149 United States 08/13/2020 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ~Newton's Own~ You can believe what you want, but your obvious disdain for people of faith, that choose faith and worship, is plain to see. Some people value things diffently than you, they should be allowed their choice, same as you, with no predjudice or bias. You assume too much, my god wants me to challenge and question him. And that is your right and gift, to believe as you will, and worship or pray as you will. Would you want someone taking that right from you? Loaded question but I'll bite. Under normal circumstances, of course not. But these are not normal circumstances and can get people killed, you good sir or ma'am are promoting the spread of a deadly virus using virtue as the vehicle, and in turn promoting ignorance. Im not promoting anything, I'm saying people have a choice. You step outside your house, to go to the grocery, or get a haircut, maybe join a huge protest gathering, attend a state funerals, you are exercising your choice. You take a risk either way. You jump in a car to drive around, you are making a choice and risking death. These people have determined they will risk it to worship God, the same way people make a choice to attend a large protest and the risks that come with it. Why is it the media and politicians demonize one and worship the other? A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once. Fear cuts deeper than swords. #Notmypresident. |
GLP Effect
User ID: 79214079 United States 08/13/2020 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So Christians faith is so weak they have to be in church to worship? They can worship and find God at home for awhile. Quoting: NDFarm There's a such thing as holy places and this goes back even before Christ was born. Sure you can still pray at home, but God asks one day a week of us for worship at church. Pray this prayer to blind Satan: [link to flameoflove.us (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77011626 08/13/2020 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prove its not, I have an entire planet falling apart to confirm my assertions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511 Yea, and a lot of policymakers, public officials and other opinion makers throughout the world have said for several years that we humans should cutback on the niceties of life in order to stop climate change!!!, originally "global warming!!!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77011626 08/13/2020 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All based on certain people's liberal feeeeelings and just how far reaching their leftwing biases are. Liberals will sell their own mothers to a whore house if that somehow allows them to stroke, caress and soothe their political emotions. |
Preacherboy
User ID: 76579068 United States 08/13/2020 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong for many reasons. 1. Grace Community Church, John's church is not hurting for money. They are set and 1 word from John that they weren't and they would be taken care of. 2. Most churches, including mine and every other pastor I've spoken with took in more money while shutdown than they normally would have. The 3 months we were shut down our offerings we up significantly. I can say unequivocally that this gathering is not about money. It's about fulfilling God's mandate of fellowship. Hebrews 10:24 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79261765 United States 08/13/2020 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please let's keep the responses civil... Don't respond with hate in difference in opinion. Please. Or I'll bin the whole thread and post another topic. Religion can edify, but disagreement's can also help others as well when tackfully presented. |
~Newton's Own~
User ID: 77801149 United States 08/13/2020 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please let's keep the responses civil... Quoting: Goneviral Don't respond with hate in difference in opinion. Please. Or I'll bin the whole thread and post another topic. Religion can edify, but disagreement's can also help others as well when tackfully presented. Was I uncivil? A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once. Fear cuts deeper than swords. #Notmypresident. |
Gorgol
User ID: 77843037 Netherlands 08/13/2020 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please let's keep the responses civil... Quoting: Goneviral Don't respond with hate in difference in opinion. Please. Or I'll bin the whole thread and post another topic. Religion can edify, but disagreement's can also help others as well when tackfully presented. Was I uncivil? I think he meant me That is what's at stake Our whole existence War is not civil ever Last Edited by Gorgol on 08/13/2020 02:37 PM Gorgol -No Jab, No Jitter |
~Newton's Own~
User ID: 77801149 United States 08/13/2020 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please let's keep the responses civil... Quoting: Goneviral Don't respond with hate in difference in opinion. Please. Or I'll bin the whole thread and post another topic. Religion can edify, but disagreement's can also help others as well when tackfully presented. Was I uncivil? I think he meant me That is what's at stake Our whole existence War is not civil ever We just need to realize we are all one man. This petty division stuff shouldn't matter for people who realize that. A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once. Fear cuts deeper than swords. #Notmypresident. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77011626 08/13/2020 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong for many reasons. 1. Grace Community Church, John's church is not hurting for money. They are set and 1 word from John that they weren't and they would be taken care of. 2. Most churches, including mine and every other pastor I've spoken with took in more money while shutdown than they normally would have. The 3 months we were shut down our offerings we up significantly. I can say unequivocally that this gathering is not about money. It's about fulfilling God's mandate of fellowship. Hebrews 10:24 I've noticed that most of the people who've accused others of resenting restrictions on large religious gatherings, obsessive-compulsive aspects of mask wearing and people trying to make ends meet in their businesses have been mainly of the left, not right. Hardly surprising, therefore, that they accuse their opponents of what motivates them in their own life. Or aspects of Hillary/Clinton-Foundation-ism, Barack-fancy-summer-house-in-Martha's-Vineyard-ism. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3129098 United States 08/13/2020 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too, because in two or three weeks I can read about half of them getting the virus, Im pro-idiot and fully support the fools gathering. ~~~~~~ Oh yes... Such an awful laying in the streets Pandemic? No, you believe LIES! Well, I’ve been watching all the new 5G installations for months now. If they get it working properly (prayers for it to fail & crash), the 5G can be used as the Military Weapon it was made to be. This is where your focus should be. Anyone who believes a masked up, oxygen starved population is healthy instead of harmful, is an idiot. |
regenerated
User ID: 78089808 United States 08/13/2020 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All the demonic responses in this thread are sad. Someday you people will find out that everything you believe and stand for is a lie. Some of you already know, and are so far compromised in evil that you can't escape. I will be praying for you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77119396 United States 08/13/2020 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong for many reasons. 1. Grace Community Church, John's church is not hurting for money. They are set and 1 word from John that they weren't and they would be taken care of. 2. Most churches, including mine and every other pastor I've spoken with took in more money while shutdown than they normally would have. The 3 months we were shut down our offerings we up significantly. I can say unequivocally that this gathering is not about money. It's about fulfilling God's mandate of fellowship. Hebrews 10:24 You mentioned money for you and the church. I don't believe Jesus wanted money involved in fellowship. |
Gorgol
User ID: 77843037 Netherlands 08/13/2020 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please let's keep the responses civil... Quoting: Goneviral Don't respond with hate in difference in opinion. Please. Or I'll bin the whole thread and post another topic. Religion can edify, but disagreement's can also help others as well when tackfully presented. Was I uncivil? I think he meant me That is what's at stake Our whole existence War is not civil ever We just need to realize we are all one man. This petty division stuff shouldn't matter for people who realize that. I don't see the division as petty The sheep are the ones helping evil to wipe everything out Therefore . . the division is huge and unbridgeable The collaborator of my enemy is my enemy I really mean that, not mongering at all This has gone too far, and it's planning to not even have begun good Gorgol -No Jab, No Jitter |