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California megachurch draws thousands at in-person services defying state coronavirus orders

 
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Is gathering and looting, protesting dumb? Is shopping for grocieries dumb? Is a huge funeral in a church dumb?

If not, why is having church an hour and a half once a week dumb?
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Its all dumb, and an expression of naivety and ignorance. If this is about God, where the is he? If he was doing his job this wouldn't even be a topic.
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Now you attack God in your ignorance?

Lol.

God has provided that church with a leader that has a backbone.

That's how God works.

Its not entirely overt to the undecerning masses.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


So the age old conundrum of the all powerfull,in full control deity that just cant seem to get his little apprentice to stop causing mischief. I need more faith right, that's the typical retort, isn't it?
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You can believe what you want, but your obvious disdain for people of faith, that choose faith and worship, is plain to see.

Some people value things diffently than you, they should be allowed their choice, same as you, with no predjudice or bias.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

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If people can gather and protest, if state funerals can be held in a church, people should be able to gather and worship God if they choose to do so.

They are all taking a risk with the virus, but you can't glorify protests and looting and deny people church.

Thats bias.
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Its all dumb, and an expression of naivety and ignorance. If this is about God, where the is he? If he was doing his job this wouldn't even be a topic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511


Now you attack God in your ignorance?

Lol.

God has provided that church with a leader that has a backbone.

That's how God works.

Its not entirely overt to the undecerning masses.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


So the age old conundrum of the all powerfull,in full control deity that just cant seem to get his little apprentice to stop causing mischief. I need more faith right, that's the typical retort, isn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511


You can believe what you want, but your obvious disdain for people of faith, that choose faith and worship, is plain to see.

Some people value things diffently than you, they should be allowed their choice, same as you, with no predjudice or bias.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


You assume too much, my god wants me to challenge and question him.
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Now you attack God in your ignorance?

Lol.

God has provided that church with a leader that has a backbone.

That's how God works.

Its not entirely overt to the undecerning masses.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


So the age old conundrum of the all powerfull,in full control deity that just cant seem to get his little apprentice to stop causing mischief. I need more faith right, that's the typical retort, isn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511


You can believe what you want, but your obvious disdain for people of faith, that choose faith and worship, is plain to see.

Some people value things diffently than you, they should be allowed their choice, same as you, with no predjudice or bias.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


You assume too much, my god wants me to challenge and question him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511


And that is your right and gift, to believe as you will, and worship or pray as you will.

Would you want someone taking that right from you?
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

#Notmypresident.
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Grace Community Church held in-person services on Sunday, and pastor John MacArthur told CNN that 6,000 or 7,000 people showed up.

The crowd size defies a state order released at the end of July that limits indoor attendance at a place of worship to 25 percent of a building capacity or a maximum of 100 attendees, whichever is lower.

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All should do it - ignore criminal establishment.
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So the age old conundrum of the all powerfull,in full control deity that just cant seem to get his little apprentice to stop causing mischief. I need more faith right, that's the typical retort, isn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511


You can believe what you want, but your obvious disdain for people of faith, that choose faith and worship, is plain to see.

Some people value things diffently than you, they should be allowed their choice, same as you, with no predjudice or bias.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


You assume too much, my god wants me to challenge and question him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511


And that is your right and gift, to believe as you will, and worship or pray as you will.

Would you want someone taking that right from you?
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Loaded question but I'll bite. Under normal circumstances, of course not. But these are not normal circumstances and can get people killed, you good sir or ma'am are promoting the spread of a deadly virus using virtue as the vehicle, and in turn promoting ignorance.
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Praying to a fake god, during a fake pandemic. How pathetic...
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I don't really care for MacArthur much, but I'm glad he did this.
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Me too, because in two or three weeks I can read about half of them getting the virus, Im pro-idiot and fully support the fools gathering.
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Just as long as you've also snickered when pro-BLM/Antifa leftists have gathered in large groups over the past few months, you're fine and not full of pro-Karen liberal bullshit.
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I don't really care for MacArthur much, but I'm glad he did this.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Me too, because in two or three weeks I can read about half of them getting the virus, Im pro-idiot and fully support the fools gathering.
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Ooooh... because you think this is a real pandemic!

epiclol
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This will we looked back on as the Christians spread the virus, and they need to be removed from society..

Internment camps any body?

will be War on the Saints.



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this is actually awesome for Satan, 7000 sheep who bring a cross to a gunfight , end up like they always do, in a mass grave forsaken by their phony god
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Why don't you go shove the long end of a Satanic cross up your Covid ass
It's already "right side up" for ya



Well done, Californian Christians!
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Me too, because in two or three weeks I can read about half of them getting the virus, Im pro-idiot and fully support the fools gathering.
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With a 99% survival rate, I'm not sure their worried about it, their faith and worship is more important to them, as it should be.
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Well that's because they started fudging the numbers when everyone started to panic, go back to the real data from jan-march....that's way more accurate. Deny it all you want, this is just the first one, there will be more. And its still early, this thing could incubate for years like rabies.
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If people can riot and loot, gather for protests, have huge 2 week state funerals, gathering in a church for it, go shopping for groceries, people should be able to have church.

Period.
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^yes.
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I don't really care for MacArthur much, but I'm glad he did this.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Me too, because in two or three weeks I can read about half of them getting the virus, Im pro-idiot and fully support the fools gathering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511


Ooooh... because you think this is a real pandemic!

epiclol
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Prove its not, I have an entire planet falling apart to confirm my assertions.
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Loaded question but I'll bite. Under normal circumstances, of course not. But these are not normal circumstances and can get people killed, you good sir or ma'am are promoting the spread of a deadly virus using virtue as the vehicle, and in turn promoting ignorance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511


For one thing, Sweden never locked down and their rates of illness and deaths are not so much higher than they are for surrounding Northern Euro countries that did shutdown. Plus their economy hasn't been trashed leading to way more despair, hardship and suffering.

For another things, studies of mask wearing have shown it's way less effective than the Karens of society have assumed or believed.

Ultimately, I don't mind giving people like you some slack if you've at least not been dumbass liberals/leftists in general when it comes to other issues and public figures.
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You can believe what you want, but your obvious disdain for people of faith, that choose faith and worship, is plain to see.

Some people value things diffently than you, they should be allowed their choice, same as you, with no predjudice or bias.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


You assume too much, my god wants me to challenge and question him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511


And that is your right and gift, to believe as you will, and worship or pray as you will.

Would you want someone taking that right from you?
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Loaded question but I'll bite. Under normal circumstances, of course not. But these are not normal circumstances and can get people killed, you good sir or ma'am are promoting the spread of a deadly virus using virtue as the vehicle, and in turn promoting ignorance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679511


Im not promoting anything, I'm saying people have a choice.

You step outside your house, to go to the grocery, or get a haircut, maybe join a huge protest gathering, attend a state funerals, you are exercising your choice.

You take a risk either way.

You jump in a car to drive around, you are making a choice and risking death.

These people have determined they will risk it to worship God, the same way people make a choice to attend a large protest and the risks that come with it.

Why is it the media and politicians demonize one and worship the other?
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

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So Christians faith is so weak they have to be in church to worship? They can worship and find God at home for awhile.
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There's a such thing as holy places and this goes back even before Christ was born. Sure you can still pray at home, but God asks one day a week of us for worship at church.
Pray this prayer to blind Satan:
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Prove its not, I have an entire planet falling apart to confirm my assertions.
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Yea, and a lot of policymakers, public officials and other opinion makers throughout the world have said for several years that we humans should cutback on the niceties of life in order to stop climate change!!!, originally "global warming!!!"
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Why is it the media and politicians demonize one and worship the other?
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


All based on certain people's liberal feeeeelings and just how far reaching their leftwing biases are.

Liberals will sell their own mothers to a whore house if that somehow allows them to stroke, caress and soothe their political emotions.
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Wrong for many reasons.
1. Grace Community Church, John's church is not hurting for money. They are set and 1 word from John that they weren't and they would be taken care of.

2. Most churches, including mine and every other pastor I've spoken with took in more money while shutdown than they normally would have. The 3 months we were shut down our offerings we up significantly.

I can say unequivocally that this gathering is not about money. It's about fulfilling God's mandate of fellowship. Hebrews 10:24
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Please let's keep the responses civil...

Don't respond with hate in difference in opinion.

Please. Or I'll bin the whole thread and post another topic.

Religion can edify, but disagreement's can also help others as well when tackfully presented.
~Newton's Own~

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Please let's keep the responses civil...

Don't respond with hate in difference in opinion.

Please. Or I'll bin the whole thread and post another topic.

Religion can edify, but disagreement's can also help others as well when tackfully presented.
 Quoting: Goneviral


Was I uncivil?
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

#Notmypresident.
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Please let's keep the responses civil...

Don't respond with hate in difference in opinion.

Please. Or I'll bin the whole thread and post another topic.

Religion can edify, but disagreement's can also help others as well when tackfully presented.
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Was I uncivil?
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I think he meant me

That is what's at stake

Our whole existence

War is not civil ever

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Please let's keep the responses civil...

Don't respond with hate in difference in opinion.

Please. Or I'll bin the whole thread and post another topic.

Religion can edify, but disagreement's can also help others as well when tackfully presented.
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Was I uncivil?
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I think he meant me

That is what's at stake

Our whole existence

War is not civil ever
 Quoting: Gorgol


We just need to realize we are all one man.

This petty division stuff shouldn't matter for people who realize that.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

#Notmypresident.
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Wrong for many reasons.
1. Grace Community Church, John's church is not hurting for money. They are set and 1 word from John that they weren't and they would be taken care of.

2. Most churches, including mine and every other pastor I've spoken with took in more money while shutdown than they normally would have. The 3 months we were shut down our offerings we up significantly.

I can say unequivocally that this gathering is not about money. It's about fulfilling God's mandate of fellowship. Hebrews 10:24
 Quoting: Preacherboy



I've noticed that most of the people who've accused others of resenting restrictions on large religious gatherings, obsessive-compulsive aspects of mask wearing and people trying to make ends meet in their businesses have been mainly of the left, not right.

Hardly surprising, therefore, that they accuse their opponents of what motivates them in their own life. Or aspects of Hillary/Clinton-Foundation-ism, Barack-fancy-summer-house-in-Martha's-Vineyard-ism.
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I don't really care for MacArthur much, but I'm glad he did this.
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Me too, because in two or three weeks I can read about half of them getting the virus, Im pro-idiot and fully support the fools gathering.
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Oh yes... Such an awful laying in the streets Pandemic? No, you believe LIES! Well, I’ve been watching all the new 5G installations for months now. If they get it working properly (prayers for it to fail & crash), the 5G can be used as the Military Weapon it was made to be. This is where your focus should be. Anyone who believes a masked up, oxygen starved population is healthy instead of harmful, is an idiot.
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All the demonic responses in this thread are sad. Someday you people will find out that everything you believe and stand for is a lie. Some of you already know, and are so far compromised in evil that you can't escape. I will be praying for you.
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Wrong for many reasons.
1. Grace Community Church, John's church is not hurting for money. They are set and 1 word from John that they weren't and they would be taken care of.

2. Most churches, including mine and every other pastor I've spoken with took in more money while shutdown than they normally would have. The 3 months we were shut down our offerings we up significantly.

I can say unequivocally that this gathering is not about money. It's about fulfilling God's mandate of fellowship. Hebrews 10:24
 Quoting: Preacherboy


You mentioned money for you and the church. I don't believe Jesus wanted money involved in fellowship.
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Please let's keep the responses civil...

Don't respond with hate in difference in opinion.

Please. Or I'll bin the whole thread and post another topic.

Religion can edify, but disagreement's can also help others as well when tackfully presented.
 Quoting: Goneviral


Was I uncivil?
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I think he meant me

That is what's at stake

Our whole existence

War is not civil ever
 Quoting: Gorgol


We just need to realize we are all one man.

This petty division stuff shouldn't matter for people who realize that.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I don't see the division as petty

The sheep are the ones helping evil to wipe everything out

Therefore . . the division is huge and unbridgeable

The collaborator of my enemy is my enemy

I really mean that, not mongering at all

This has gone too far, and it's planning to not even have begun good
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