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My Analysis is Complete: Beirut Explosion was approx 10 Kilotons

 
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In any explosion. There are 3 types of explosions to be considered.

1. A molecular mater based explosion such as TNT: Producing a dark black cloud of dust and a single point of detonation throwing up a lots of dirt and producing a strong shock wave. Multiple secondary explosions can be involved. Coats everything with a dry black powder residue.

2. A vapor or fuel air / dust explosion: Producing a very large red and orange fireball. May have multipoint ignition sources from exploding fuel or gas /propane tanks. It also leaves an oil residue on every thing from unburnt hydrocarbon fuel residue.

3. A nuclear blast explosion: Producing a single point explosion with a very bright white flash that is spherical in shape. Followed by a rising fire ball and a mushroom dust cloud. Then a delayed shock wave. It leaves behind lots of very fine white or gray ash / powder residue and many chunks of dirt or pulverized cement and melted metal.

In the case of the recent China blasts, all three types of explosions were used by the offenders. With the first conventional explosion masking the second larger nuclear explosion, followed by the third massive fuel air vapor explosion being set off by the nuke to mask it use, with the ever burning hot plasma fireball turning everything into white ash. The overpressure collapsing the cars roofs and blowing out the glass. Thermal radiation vaporizing the car tires and glass that was then ashed with the radiation effects melting and toasting the cars at over 2,000 degrees centigrade. The massive 400 foot wide crater being created from the overpressure blast of the nuclear weapon estimated to be between 1.4 and 2.8 Kt in size. The fracture zone around the crater proving that it was a low altitude surface burst and the soil debris extracted from the crater floor being deposited all over the place looking like big chunks of dirt clods. If you have ever seen photographs of a neutron bomb test this is exactly what it looks like.
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There have been some absolutely kick-ass threads on GLP in the last few months...and this is one of them


Thanks OP...gave some teeth to what I already believed was the case
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Any blast crater that is larger than 6 feet wide requires more than 4,000 lbs of TNT to make it. 16,000 lbs of TNT will only make a 10 foot wide crater. So when you see a 60 or a 100 foot wide crater that’s too big to be caused by conventional explosives and when you see a flash that is brighter than the sun followed by a ever expanding and rising fireball. Thats a nuke. Everything else is just a secondary explosion going off .



I cannot post the site this came from for some reason. Didn’t know it was banned here but there’s a very scientific analysis of small and micro nukes at the link. If you copy and paste the piece I left into your search bar, you’ll find the article.
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Amazing. Keep up the good work.
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to be honest only a very bright light is indicative of a nuke - and if you see it lie down with your head towards it. So the blast wave doesn't throw you legs around...
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thanks. I'm not an expert but know a little about explosives
and was quite skeptical that 2700 tons could detonate in
such a homogeneous fashion. There's air gaps and erratic
distances between bags, etc. It would most likely have
been a set of smaller explosions, one after another.

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You'd also need a fuel source - hence why diesel or kerosene.
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Any blast crater that is larger than 6 feet wide requires more than 4,000 lbs of TNT to make it. 16,000 lbs of TNT will only make a 10 foot wide crater. So when you see a 60 or a 100 foot wide crater that’s too big to be caused by conventional explosives and when you see a flash that is brighter than the sun followed by a ever expanding and rising fireball. Thats a nuke. Everything else is just a secondary explosion going off .



I cannot post the site this came from for some reason. Didn’t know it was banned here but there’s a very scientific analysis of small and micro nukes at the link. If you copy and paste the piece I left into your search bar, you’ll find the article.
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Amazing. Keep up the good work.
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Can you guys see my posts?

I've replied with charts and data from a military manual detailing craters created by TNT and nukes in various soils with 1 kiloton of explosive force.
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This military manual says that a surface explosion of 1 kiloton of TNT in wet sand (softest scenario) should be about 450 ft in diameter.

The Beirut crater is about 420 ft in diameter.

Considering the 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate and the ratio of something like .4 to 1 for an vs. tnt... this sounds about right.



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thanks. I'm not an expert but know a little about explosives
and was quite skeptical that 2700 tons could detonate in
such a homogeneous fashion. There's air gaps and erratic
distances between bags, etc. It would most likely have
been a set of smaller explosions, one after another.

.
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You'd also need a fuel source - hence why diesel or kerosene.
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if you look at the many videos and the precursor fire you can see many electrical sparks - the whole place was ruined with shorts and gas leaks and then a big boom....
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Trump was ridiculed for stating that this was a bomb blast, but that conclusion correlates with my analysis.
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How about a missile?

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that obviously fake videos were quick.y release, where you could see an obviously fake missile. It was done to discredit the videos showing the real missile.
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Well, they're lying when they say it was ammonium nitrate, which would have left a whitish grey mushroom cloud and not a rust red one.

I think the fertilizer was used as a plausible explanation where the the government could be blamed, and the target was destabalising Lebanon and destroying a large portion of thier food stores.



. I wonder who did it?

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Well, I might as well let you in on the latest. I'm pretty sure we have figured out a way to get the explosive power without the fallout/flash etc.

Clean nukes.

Technology advances.

You really think we are stuck in the 40's? 80 year old tech?
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tactical nukes are doable in Battle, they're very clean,
and very devastating.

the biggest bomb any of our Transport Aircraft could carry
is 85 Tons of bomb weight.

can you imagine the explosion of just one 1kt nuke,
the size of a shoe-box, can make: that's 1000 Tons of TNT exploding instantaneously.
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lol do you know how a nuke works? shoe box? you need a huge amount of control to detonate it and that is large.
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that's right. i said "the size of a shoe-box".
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Lebanon port explosion,
Looks like a MOAB bomb but using something more explosive, the MOAB releases a large quantity of propane gas that forms a shell of gas then smaller explosions set off the propane cloud.
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Before I detail my conclusion, I will explain some facts regarding Ammonium Nitrate.

Ammonium nitrate(AN) does not burn on its own. Instead, it acts as a source of oxygen that can accelerate the combustion (buring) of other materials. For combustion to occur, oxygen must be present. Ammonium nitrate prills (industrial term synonymous with pellets) provide a much more concentrated supply of oxygen than the air around us. This is why it is effective in mining explosives, where it's mixed with oil and other fuels.

Those bags of AN prills sitting in the Beirut warehouse could not have been mixed with any kind of fuel because the ratio required for an explosive is 94 parts AN and six parts fuel and it needs to be mixed quite thoroughly and homogeneously in order to maximize the explosion.

It's relatively difficult for a fire to trigger an ammonium nitrate explosion. The fire would need to be sustained and confined within the same area as the ammonium nitrate prills.

Also, the prills themselves are not fuel for the fire, so they would need to be contaminated with, or packaged in, some other combustible material.

What some shills have suggested here on GLP is that ammonium nitrate by ITSELF can chemically decompose, which releases the oxygen molecules bound up in the little pellets...this is true, and this release is very energetic...and, under the right circumstances, can be something like an "explosion"...in the same way you can use ordinary compressed air to "blow up" your bicycle tire if you insist on putting 100 psi into it.

But this is NOT an explosion...an explosion means that a fuel BURNS...there must be COMBUSTION. AN by itself cannot burn.

BUT if you take some AN and pack it into a SEALED container like a pipe, and then heat it up until the material starts decomposing, the release of the oxygen gas inside will cause a massive increase in pressure until the pipe bursts...just like the bicycle tire…

Obviously there was no huge pipe in that Beirut warehouse for the AN to be packed into and then heated with the world's biggest blowtorch until the thing exploded.

There was also no mixing of all those hundreds of tons of AN bags with any kind of fuel in order to create a HOMOGENOUS combustible mixture…

These are the basic PHYSICAL FACTS.

Satellite photos online show the devastation for several kilometers from the blast center.

Buildings have simply been flattened for literally many hundreds of meters in every direction...that requires a HUGE explosion...in fact even if that entire 3,000 tons of AN was professionally mixed with fuel to make a bomb, it would not be nearly powerful enough to cause the damage seen.

I will link to a blast calculator on the UN website where anyone can enter one million or two million or whatever amount of TNT and see immediately how far that kind of blast will cause a destructive OVERPRESSURE:

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Also, I will link to a FEMA publication that on page 4-19 has an important Explosive Blast Damage Approximation Chart, which gives estimates of damage relative to destructive overpressure calculated from the UN Blast Calculator: [link to www.fema.gov (secure)]

From the photos of the devastation, combined with the blast calculator info, it is clear that the explosion was absolutely huge. By increasing the amount of high explosives in that blast calculator we can see how far such a massive bomb would wreak building damage

When I enter 10 million kg of TNT into the Blast Calculator, we see that at a distance [range] of 1000 meters [1 km, about two thirds of a mile] we have about 50 kilopascals of incident pressure, which is about 7 psi...just enough to knock down buildings (according to the FEMA Chart I linked to above.

It's pretty obvious from the pictures that the explosion was even bigger than that...the sat photo shows buildings RAZED to the ground for many hundreds of meters.

How big was the bomb then?

The ten million kg of TNT we entered above is 10 kilotons. Hiroshima was 12 to 15 kilotons.
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Many mini nukes have been used in the last 20 years.
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Lebanon port explosion,
Looks like a MOAB bomb but using something more explosive, the MOAB releases a large quantity of propane gas that forms a shell of gas then smaller explosions set off the propane cloud.
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that white bubble (shock wave?) is interesting.
i've never see that before.
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Well, I might as well let you in on the latest. I'm pretty sure we have figured out a way to get the explosive power without the fallout/flash etc.

Clean nukes.

Technology advances.

You really think we are stuck in the 40's? 80 year old tech?
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tactical nukes are doable in Battle, they're very clean,
and very devastating.

the biggest bomb any of our Transport Aircraft could carry
is 85 Tons of bomb weight.

can you imagine the explosion of just one 1kt nuke,
the size of a shoe-box, can make: that's 1000 Tons of TNT exploding instantaneously.
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lol do you know how a nuke works? shoe box? you need a huge amount of control to detonate it and that is large.
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that's right. i said "the size of a shoe-box".
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We know for sure they had them that were he size of an artillery projectile way back in the fifties. By now I am certain they would have much smaller devices but with limited destructive capacity. The velocity of the shock wave of an explosion can usually be used to determine what it was that exploded and we have it on camera from various angles
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I'm not privy to any classified info, but it's pretty obvious that the nuclear powers have been working on trying to create pure fusion or near pure fusion devices for the last 70 years. If they did perfect such a thing, they'd never tell if they could help it. There is no hard lower limit on size for a fusion device like there is for fission devices, so small tactical units are a possibility. The radiation signatures would be minimal and mostly prompt radiation without residual. No lingering crap as fallout.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure this out. I'm not convinced that the blast was nuclear, but I do think it's a likely possibility. Those that wanted Lebanon out of the game are most likely to have the means.
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All valid points worth considering, IMHO. Just hasn’t been proven yet. Considering that, my GOD, nuclear devastation without radiation, so called “pure fusion” bombs

I want off. We are fixin to really kill ourselves. So called “winnable” nuclear war

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This military manual says that a surface explosion of 1 kiloton of TNT in wet sand (softest scenario) should be about 450 ft in diameter.

The Beirut crater is about 420 ft in diameter.

Considering the 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate and the ratio of something like .4 to 1 for an vs. tnt... this sounds about right.



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Yes, but it wasn’t TNT in the building and as stated by OP AN needs a fuel to go through it’s chemical reaction completely.
BTW, calculated what the volume of a KT of TNT is and it’s equivalent to 603 cubic meters at a density of 1.654 G/CM3

Let that sink in for a minute. 603 cubic meters of TNT
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thanks. I'm not an expert but know a little about explosives
and was quite skeptical that 2700 tons could detonate in
such a homogeneous fashion. There's air gaps and erratic
distances between bags, etc. It would most likely have
been a set of smaller explosions, one after another.

.
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You'd also need a fuel source - hence why diesel or kerosene.
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You don't though. Tannerite is just AN mixed with a sensitizer so you can use a bullet to detonate it rather than needing a blasting cap.
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Lebanon port explosion,
Looks like a MOAB bomb but using something more explosive, the MOAB releases a large quantity of propane gas that forms a shell of gas then smaller explosions set off the propane cloud.
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that white bubble (shock wave?) is interesting.
i've never see that before.
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Same thing you see halo around jets as they cross the sound barrier. Well described
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No way is 10 kilotons.

The death count is too low for that.

And look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Flattened to nothing for like miles...
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How many pictures of that were we aloud to see. People didn’t have cameras or cell phones back then. We saw what they wants us to see...
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Well, I might as well let you in on the latest. I'm pretty sure we have figured out a way to get the explosive power without the fallout/flash etc.

Clean nukes.

Technology advances.

You really think we are stuck in the 40's? 80 year old tech?
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tactical nukes are doable in Battle, they're very clean,
and very devastating.

the biggest bomb any of our Transport Aircraft could carry
is 85 Tons of bomb weight.

can you imagine the explosion of just one 1kt nuke,
the size of a shoe-box, can make: that's 1000 Tons of TNT exploding instantaneously.
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lol do you know how a nuke works? shoe box? you need a huge amount of control to detonate it and that is large.
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that's right. i said "the size of a shoe-box".
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Maybe you should have said cannonball sized. We had that nearly 70 years ago...

Bet we have nukes that use plutonium (better than plutonium likely) the size of a BB. Micro nukes that could fit on a very small drone, or better.

70 years ago we had stuff that would shock this guy. This guy and his kind are the reason we have to live in fairytale land, with suppressed technologies that if released would usher in a new Golden age of humanity. He'd rather the NWO globalist put on a sick show for him, one where the majority of the world population is murdered so our rulers can roll out new tech while remaining in complete control.

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Well, they're lying when they say it was ammonium nitrate, which would have left a whitish grey mushroom cloud and not a rust red one.

I think the fertilizer was used as a plausible explanation where the the government could be blamed, and the target was destabalising Lebanon and destroying a large portion of thier food stores.



. I wonder who did it?

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Who profits from this?

Interesting the tunnels under the warehouse....at a port no less

My bet is the West, and I’m glad someone acted on it. That port is owned and operated by Hezbollah....well, it was.

Glad what is left of the population is overturning the obviously corrupt government

So sorry Iran
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"On April 17, 2013, an ammonium nitrate explosion occurred at the West Fertilizer Company storage and distribution facility in West, Texas, eighteen miles (29 km) north of Waco, while emergency services personnel were responding to a fire at the facility.[7] Fifteen people were killed, more than 160 were injured, and more than 150 buildings were damaged or destroyed. Investigators confirmed that ammonium nitrate was the material that exploded."

None of that was mixed with fuel oil.

"On September 21, 2001, an explosion occurred at the AZF (French initialism for AZote Fertilisant, i.e. nitrogen fertiliser) fertiliser factory in Toulouse, France, belonging to the Grande Paroisse branch of the Total group."

"Three hundred tonnes of ammonium nitrate was stored (the maximum capacity was 2,000 tonnes) in hangar #221. The entire factory was destroyed, making a crater with a depth of about 7 metres (23 ft) and a diameter of 40 metres (130 ft). Steel girders were found 3 kilometres (1.9 mi) away from the explosion. The blast measured 3.4 on the Richter scale, with an estimated power equivalent to 20-40 tons of TNT"

No fuel oil mixed either.
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One could also cite the 1921 Oppau fertilizer explosion in Germany, but that would be a mistake.

What happened in that fertilizer plant in Germany is that they were sticking dynamite INTO that solidified pile of ammonium nitrate.

That big pile is then like its own pressure vessel..the heat and pressure from the dynamite sets the Ammonium Nitrate into chemical decomposition...which means it starts turning from that solid substance into oxygen and water vapor that is hugely expanded by volume.

Being in the middle of that rock-hard pile of AN, that gas and all of its energy has nowhere to go...so the pressure and heat starts just keeps on building and setting off more of the AN, causing even more release of oxygen and water vapor...and it has nowhere to go.

It's like pumping up your bicycle tire to 100 psi...what happens...it blows up...the energy from that compressed gas is released "explosively"...but it's not an explosion, any more than your bicylce tire "exploding" if you cram too much air into it.

But obviously for this to have happened in Beirut somebody would have have to have stuck explosives DEEP INTO THE MIDDLE OF THAT PILE.

That pile would then be like the bicycle tire holding that pressure in...until it blows...but that kind of "explosion" is NOT anywhere close to the kind of real, combustion explosion that happened in Beirut...there is a big big difference…

It would NOT create a supersonic shockwave...only a subsonic pressure wave...and that could obviously never cause this kind of damage...blowing out windows 10 km away requires a HIROSHIMA LEVEL EXPLOSION.

And again, unless you use the mass of the pile itself to create the chemical reaction DEEP INSIDE that pile...it will not do anything...if it just starts chemically decomposing on the surface it will just gas off into the air, like a balloon.
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tactical nukes are doable in Battle, they're very clean,
and very devastating.

the biggest bomb any of our Transport Aircraft could carry
is 85 Tons of bomb weight.

can you imagine the explosion of just one 1kt nuke,
the size of a shoe-box, can make: that's 1000 Tons of TNT exploding instantaneously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044

lol do you know how a nuke works? shoe box? you need a huge amount of control to detonate it and that is large.
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that's right. i said "the size of a shoe-box".
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Maybe you should have said cannonball sized. We had that nearly 70 years ago...

Bet we have nukes that use plutonium (better than plutonium likely) the size of a BB. Micro nukes that could fit on a very small drone, or better.

70 years ago we had stuff that would shock this guy. This guy and his kind are the reason we have to live in fairytale land, with suppressed technologies that if released would usher in a new Golden age of humanity. He'd rather the NWO globalist put on a sick show for him, one where the majority of the world population is murdered so our rulers can roll out new tech while remaining in complete control.

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well, back in those days the U.S. was making
all kinds of phony propaganda movie to spook the Russkies. (in that case the "Davy Crocket"
but i'm not sure we had the technology (like miniaturization) to stuff a 1kt nuke into an 8 inch artillery round.

but we certainly do now.
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There appear to have been some smaller seismic events just before the blast. May or may not be related. 6 of them, 11 seconds apart.

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Why isn't anyone mentioning Netanyahu's Speech to the United Nations in 2018 where he pointed out the exact blast site on a map saying this is worth a thousand missiles.

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And what do we have here. The next frame after the bright flash.

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Have you ever actually seen photos of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki devastation, and if so, you’re telling me this incident was within that range, sans a few kilotons? Please. I think your calculator is broken.
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if it were a nuke, with a cloud that size,
i'ld say more like 2.5kt (2,500 tons of TNT equivalent).

and, even at that, you're still missing the unmistakable
signature of a Nuke: the momentary blinding flash of white light. (no matter how small the nuke)
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There are a couple of videos that show a small white flash immediately prior to the detonation.
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Re: My Analysis is Complete: Beirut Explosion was approx 10 Kilotons
I'm not privy to any classified info, but it's pretty obvious that the nuclear powers have been working on trying to create pure fusion or near pure fusion devices for the last 70 years. If they did perfect such a thing, they'd never tell if they could help it. There is no hard lower limit on size for a fusion device like there is for fission devices, so small tactical units are a possibility. The radiation signatures would be minimal and mostly prompt radiation without residual. No lingering crap as fallout.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure this out. I'm not convinced that the blast was nuclear, but I do think it's a likely possibility. Those that wanted Lebanon out of the game are most likely to have the means.
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Lockheed announced they had figured out fusion a few years back. Haven't heard anything about that development since.
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Re: My Analysis is Complete: Beirut Explosion was approx 10 Kilotons
Why isn't anyone mentioning Netanyahu's Speech to the United Nations in 2018 where he pointed out the exact blast site on a map saying this is worth a thousand missiles.
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Not to split hairs, but if you take a closer look at his presentation it appear the missile sites are surrounding the airport which is a few miles south of the port. I mean its very close but not the exact site.
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