If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?

But why would capitalists stoop to trade with Commies?
That makes them a hypocrite.

6 months my ass
I lived there
Maybe in extreme cases
You don't have to worry about medical in Europe.Way less at least then in the USA .They couldn't give a fuck here...my wife almost died before I knew her...wrong diagnosis...

Nonsense.
That makes everyone country capitalist then, because every country has some free trade, even the soviet union did.

This is baseless BS from conservative propaganda.

I can see any general practitioner I want same day outside of appointment hours

If I want to see specialist I take an appointment and wait a few days or weeks like in every country.

I can choose to go to any hospital I want, see any doctor I want.


You have no idea what you are talking about

Maybe in extreme cases? What is an extreme case? A anything above a broken arm?

OP seems like he can only think in dichotomies.


A country MUST be EITHER 100% socialist or 100% capitalist.

There exist NO alternative.


That's why American politics is literally sports with Red team vs Blue team and you support your team no matter what they do.

God forbid looking at things critically, analysing what best each side offers and taking the best of both world.

Some people just are not mentally equipped to do this

Most of the social safety nets today are not for the people and those that do not work but handouts for the capitalists.

They include a lot of our healthcare spending under socialism and the top lobbying industry is the healthcare industry.

Hand outs to wall street is socialism for capitalists.
Hand outs to corporations is socialism for capitalists.

The foodstamp program is handouts for Big Ag.

60% tax rate there

Sure you do, but for the sake of argument let's say you're telling the truth. We'll see how much you love those socialist programs when you're paying extra taxes on top of what you're paying now for defense once the USA stops footing the bill.

All of those places have a much lower standard of living than the US

Poverty level in the US is equivalent to middle class in Europe

Source: I have multiple pasports and have lived in multiple countries

OMG are you stupid.

1) link or GTFO
2) an acceptable level of tax is good. If you think taxes should be 0%, then you are a sociopath who sees no advantage in living in a society. Historically the most prospering and successful societies relied on either solidarity or exploitation or both. If you refuse solidarity it means you favor exploitation

that is only in the private system

You wait for everything but the GP in the public system

And there is rationing

There are sub standard doctors compared to the US

Some treatments aren't available
Most testing is unavailable

Socialized medicine is terrible

Somalia probably comes closest to pure capitalism.
Everyone is on their own.

This is true. Every social program comes with a tax hike, which creates more poor people who need more social programs, causing more poor people..... it's a death spiral. The only reason Europe hasn't collapsed is because they don't have to pay for their own defense.

Standard of living in the US for 90% of the population is equivalent to 3rd world countries.

Average income is higher in most European countries than America.

well... the only ones they cite are white ethnostates who actually have free market economies. sorta sad.... but also sorta funny huh?

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Venezuela and Iran would have no problem selling to their commie buddies China if the USA would get out of the way.

Bullshit! Homeless people in the USA have cellphones and can beg $100 or more a day in a big city. Try doing that in a 3rd world country.

Before taxes.

Socialism that you think of is probably actually Communism.

Hitler proved that true Socialism is not the same as Communism. Companies that was founded by Hitlers regime such as Volkswagen is undoubtedly one of the most successful car companies ever.

It is not harmful to work towards the benefits of others than yourself however it is extremely harmful to remove the benefits of others just for yourself. There is a severe difference between morality, charity or love when comparing it to the communist Marxist traits of corruption, greed and control.

I think a better question would be, what other country besides the USA has as good socialism for the rich?

Lol shows how little you understand of healthcare in Europe. You spew BS talking points from FOX thinking you know shit, but every European can see you are a moron with no understand of how it works there.


There isn't a "private" VS "social" healthcare system.
99% of doctors, hospitals, are private structure, offering the same level of quality as all developed countries.


The only thing that is socialized is the medical insurance.

You sure made a fool of yourself here, lol

How much do you pay for your kids healthcare and education?

also those countries have small populations barely the size of Houston or Dallas and a large oil industry to fund the party...and still they have high taxes...

I was talking about Australia and NZ and Canada

You don't have a flag...where are you? I will discuss your Healthcare

I have a son in medical school in Germany right now...

I live in a very cheap part of the country. I probably pay less than you do for better quality healthcare and schooling.

Here is some data

[link to mises.org (secure)]

The poor in the US are richer than European middle class

Nonsense.
I have been around as well and never saw more homeless and people living out of tents than in the USA.