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This is theft by our country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79178057


You're a Democrat right? You don't understand politics? You're not even in your 40s yet?

I'm 3 for 3 right?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


Funny how a know-it-all like you seems to think other peoples opinions don’t matter. Other peoples opinions do matter moron. The people in Venezuela are the losers here. Not Iran.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73734076


I do note, however, that you didn't answer the posted questions. Interesting.

chuckle

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


All three answers are fuck you. Its none of your business.
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USA has some 5000 military bases around the world

compared to 30 of Russia and China combined

shows you who's the world pirate unacountable to the UN and International Criminal Court

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79097770




Those bases are needed to protect the world from NWO communism from CCP who keeps bullying her neighbors - India, Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc...

And protect Europe from Russia, who has keeps threatening Georgia, Ukraine, Poland, etc...

And protect the middle east from Iran who has already infiltrated Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, etc...
 Quoting: Greenvalley


Hardly.
Its more like the Mafia Gangsters.
They come along offering their "protection" and if you refuse, they are going to break some legs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79178057


You mean the ciia
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This is theft by our country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79178057


Yes it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22597559

The majority of Americans today including most American Christians support stealing and breaching all the ten commandments of their bible.

Basically, Americans are pioneering the new international culture of no-rule-of-law, or, only Americans' demands and actions are the international law since Americans believe no other countries dare to challenge America's gangsterism.

I wonder why America still needs to pretend using sanctions and fake moral claim. Why don't America just bomb Iran and invades it without needing any pretext since America's actions show that America obey no human decency rule that has been the accepted unwritten rule of human relationship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73896965


It’s international law under the UN, not something the US did alone. Greece seized containers from Turkey a few months back. Every country does it, if there are international commerce violations.
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stealing is stealing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79208578


Is dis arming a gunman/shooter stealing?

Or must we all rely on your judgement?
 Quoting: Silverback


Iran has never attacked America.
Saudi Arabians did, and we treat them
like they are long lost cousins.

America is in Total Moral Collapse,
the Federal Government completely SATANIC,
so if you're looking for us to maintain
the moral high ground, to exercise the
Christian Principles for which we were
once known - FORGET ABOUT IT.

This is an act of PIRACY, and actually on
a national scale an act of WAR.

If Iran sunk 3 of our ships they would be
totally justified in doing so.

Iran is an enemy of ISRAEL.

THAT is what this is all about.
We are acting as the unpaid mercenary
force of Israel, by virtue of their
stranglehold on the US Government,
US Finance, US Industry, US Media,
US "entertainment", etc.

America's founders would be spinning in
graves to see our nation sold out to
a satanic socialist regime such as Israel.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79265834


The founders of America would no longer lay claim to such. It is not America anymore.
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Yes it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22597559

Actually it's not as it is legal under international law to seize embargoed material and Iran knows it as they are a signatory to that law. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Embargoed material, by whom? Two countries are entitled to trade with one another without the permission of other countries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73734076


Not when each of those countries are signatories of the laws and treaties that allow for those embargoes to happen. They have both agreed to be bound by those laws and, by virtue of that fact, the penalties incurred by breaking that law.

But I'm sure you also feel that it's fine to sign a mortgage, take the money, then not pay it back, and that it's morally corrupt for the lienholder to take back the property that hasn't been paid for.

And you STILL haven't answered the other poster - which in itself is an answer, I guess.

Extreme Liberal democrat.

NO comprehension of politics (or law.)

Under fourty (WELL under, by the sounds of it.)

Makes sense.

chuckle

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


I maintain anonymity for a reason dickhead. It certainly isn’t because I am afraid of you or your buddies. I would beat the fuck out of you given the chance low life.
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This is theft by our country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79178057


Yes it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22597559

The majority of Americans today including most American Christians support stealing and breaching all the ten commandments of their bible.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73896965


Who the fuck Are YOU to speak for "the majority of Americans", asshole?

ESAD!

skull_fingaholenutkick
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79024529


What about the daily threats of total destruction and rape of American Christians? If you’re going to use Old Testament laws (Ten Commandments) need I bring up what was mandated when a nation comes against the chosen people (Israel)?
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This is theft by our country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79178057


Yes it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22597559

The majority of Americans today including most American Christians support stealing and breaching all the ten commandments of their bible.

Basically, Americans are pioneering the new international culture of no-rule-of-law, or, only Americans' demands and actions are the international law since Americans believe no other countries dare to challenge America's gangsterism.

I wonder why America still needs to pretend using sanctions and fake moral claim. Why don't America just bomb Iran and invades it without needing any pretext since America's actions show that America obey no human decency rule that has been the accepted unwritten rule of human relationship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73896965


What about the daily threats of total destruction and rape of American Christians? If you’re going to use Old Testament laws (Ten Commandments) need I bring up what was mandated when a nation comes against the chosen people (Israel)?
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You're a Democrat right? You don't understand politics? You're not even in your 40s yet?

I'm 3 for 3 right?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


You support murders and thieves? Steal Syrian oil ok ? Steal sovereign nations gasoline on tankers ok? You don’t even have no idea of the terrible karma awaiting USA!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75890110


It’s not sovereign when it’s conducting international commerce. If Iran kept its gas within it’s sovereign jurisdiction fine, but once it leaves it’s under international commerce jurisdiction.
 Quoting: Seeker 2


Shut up fool. Venezuela and Iran are sovereigns nations. They are entitled to do trade together without foreign interference. Piracy is piracy. Period. End of story. We dont need the gas. Venezuela does. There are people there who have done nothing wrong and are suffering without gas. You would be too. I wish you would run out of gas and have to walk everywhere. Bet you would sing a different tune then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73734076


No they don’t share a boarder so they can’t...international waters commerce is regulated under UN, WTO, several treaties and provisional agreements, sorry that’s not how it works.
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You're a Democrat right? You don't understand politics? You're not even in your 40s yet?

I'm 3 for 3 right?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


You support murders and thieves? Steal Syrian oil ok ? Steal sovereign nations gasoline on tankers ok? You don’t even have no idea of the terrible karma awaiting USA!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75890110


It’s not sovereign when it’s conducting international commerce. If Iran kept its gas within it’s sovereign jurisdiction fine, but once it leaves it’s under international commerce jurisdiction.
 Quoting: Seeker 2


Shut up fool. Venezuela and Iran are sovereigns nations. They are entitled to do trade together without foreign interference. Piracy is piracy. Period. End of story. We dont need the gas. Venezuela does. There are people there who have done nothing wrong and are suffering without gas. You would be too. I wish you would run out of gas and have to walk everywhere. Bet you would sing a different tune then.
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As for Venezuela we have offered help and I hope their communist government would end. That’s why a population should always be armed in case 90 percent want change.
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Nuke Iran, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Make the Middle East Great Again
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This is theft by our country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79178057


No, this is privateering.
 Quoting: Denizen Deplorable 2020


PIRACY

Definition of piracy
1 : an act of robbery on the high seas
also : an act resembling such robbery
2 : robbery on the high seas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73734076


Law enforcement (the seizure of illegal or prohibited goods). Talk to the UN they passed the resolution, not the US.
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Actually it's not as it is legal under international law to seize embargoed material and Iran knows it as they are a signatory to that law. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Embargoed material, by whom? Two countries are entitled to trade with one another without the permission of other countries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73734076


Not when each of those countries are signatories of the laws and treaties that allow for those embargoes to happen. They have both agreed to be bound by those laws and, by virtue of that fact, the penalties incurred by breaking that law.

But I'm sure you also feel that it's fine to sign a mortgage, take the money, then not pay it back, and that it's morally corrupt for the lienholder to take back the property that hasn't been paid for.

And you STILL haven't answered the other poster - which in itself is an answer, I guess.

Extreme Liberal democrat.

NO comprehension of politics (or law.)

Under fourty (WELL under, by the sounds of it.)

Makes sense.

chuckle

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


I maintain anonymity for a reason dickhead. It certainly isn’t because I am afraid of you or your buddies. I would beat the fuck out of you given the chance low life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73734076


First off... not an eskimo's chance in hell, but you just keep living your Liberal fantasies.

Second, you talk about morals and justice... and then sit there and threaten someone simply because A) they're smarter than you, B) they know more than you, and C) they have you pegged to a T.

Yeah, you're a starling example of what an American should be, aren't you? Might want to watch those anger issues, kid - they'll bite you in the ass sooner or later.

And answering that poster's direct questions has no impact on your "anonymity..." you're just butthurt to get so easily pegged.

Have a GREAT afternoon!


hf

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ad ignorantiam - The assumption of a conclusion or fact based primarily on lack of evidence to the contrary. Usually best described by, “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.”
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stealing is stealing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79208578


Is dis arming a gunman/shooter stealing?

Or must we all rely on your judgement?
 Quoting: Silverback


Iran has never attacked America.
Saudi Arabians did, and we treat them
like they are long lost cousins.

America is in Total Moral Collapse,
the Federal Government completely SATANIC,
so if you're looking for us to maintain
the moral high ground, to exercise the
Christian Principles for which we were
once known - FORGET ABOUT IT.

This is an act of PIRACY, and actually on
a national scale an act of WAR.

If Iran sunk 3 of our ships they would be
totally justified in doing so.

Iran is an enemy of ISRAEL.

THAT is what this is all about.
We are acting as the unpaid mercenary
force of Israel, by virtue of their
stranglehold on the US Government,
US Finance, US Industry, US Media,
US "entertainment", etc.

America's founders would be spinning in
graves to see our nation sold out to
a satanic socialist regime such as Israel.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79265834


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The sanctions against Iran and Venezuela are not acknowledged by the UN but nice try.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76133102


The third sanctions were imposed in December 2006 pursuant to UNSC Resolution 1737 after Iran refused to comply with UNSC Resolution 1696 which demanded that Iran halt its uranium enrichment program. Initially, U.S. sanctions targeted investments in oil, gas, and petrochemicals, exports of refined petroleum products, and business dealings with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). It encompassed banking and insurance transactions (including with the Central Bank of Iran), shipping, web-hosting services for commercial endeavors, and domain name registration services.[3] Subsequent UN Resolutions have expanded sanctions against Iran.

The Iran deal ended UNSC, but we withdrew and UNSC went back into force.
 Quoting: Seeker 2


When we breach our own agreement all previous agreements are legally dubious. You know that. They didn’t break the deal. We did.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76133102


The official said that while the US and European partners made a “ton of progress” in attempting to reach a supplemental agreement that would satisfy President Trump ahead of the May 12 waiver deadline, they were not able to resolve the sticking point presented by the sunset issue.

The same official said sanctions would be implemented in two phases with the intention of giving countries and companies time to adjust:

Six-months for energy-related sanctions and sanctions ancillary to that (CBI, shipping, etc.), as well as relisting designated companies
And 90-days for other Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action sanctions and civil aviation licenses.
All JCPOA-related sanctions waivers are pulled today, including those that were set to expire on July 11, so today is the start of both “wind down” periods.

The Iran deal only provided waivers and once it was over the waivers expired making the UN resolution in full force again.
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stealing is stealing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79208578


Is dis arming a gunman/shooter stealing?

Or must we all rely on your judgement?
 Quoting: Silverback


Iran has never attacked America.
Saudi Arabians did, and we treat them
like they are long lost cousins.

America is in Total Moral Collapse,
the Federal Government completely SATANIC,
so if you're looking for us to maintain
the moral high ground, to exercise the
Christian Principles for which we were
once known - FORGET ABOUT IT.

This is an act of PIRACY, and actually on
a national scale an act of WAR.

If Iran sunk 3 of our ships they would be
totally justified in doing so.

Iran is an enemy of ISRAEL.

THAT is what this is all about.
We are acting as the unpaid mercenary
force of Israel, by virtue of their
stranglehold on the US Government,
US Finance, US Industry, US Media,
US "entertainment", etc.

America's founders would be spinning in
graves to see our nation sold out to
a satanic socialist regime such as Israel.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79265834


The founders of America would no longer lay claim to such. It is not America anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73734076


The founders didn’t live in a world of international commerce that’s why they made tools to evolve the constitution in extreme instance to advance with a developing world.
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I dont support theives.
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Neither do I.
"Peace in our time? All it took was everybody about to die."

“The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.”

- Amos Burton
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What America needs is Chrisjen Avasarala as President.

Avasarala/Pretty much anyone - 2020


"Peace in our time? All it took was everybody about to die."

“The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.”

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"the US has successfully confiscated Iranian fuel cargo on the high seas"

Whatever one may think of Venezuela and/or Iran, without an official declaration of war it's piracy.
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Why is any country sending fuel to the richest oil nation to begin with?
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hesright
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This is theft by our country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79178057


Yes it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22597559

Actually it's not as it is legal under international law to seize embargoed material and Iran knows it as they are a signatory to that law. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


more total lies from vile liars
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Is dis arming a gunman/shooter stealing?

Or must we all rely on your judgement?
 Quoting: Silverback


Iran has never attacked America.
Saudi Arabians did, and we treat them
like they are long lost cousins.

America is in Total Moral Collapse,
the Federal Government completely SATANIC,
so if you're looking for us to maintain
the moral high ground, to exercise the
Christian Principles for which we were
once known - FORGET ABOUT IT.

This is an act of PIRACY, and actually on
a national scale an act of WAR.

If Iran sunk 3 of our ships they would be
totally justified in doing so.

Iran is an enemy of ISRAEL.

THAT is what this is all about.
We are acting as the unpaid mercenary
force of Israel, by virtue of their
stranglehold on the US Government,
US Finance, US Industry, US Media,
US "entertainment", etc.

America's founders would be spinning in
graves to see our nation sold out to
a satanic socialist regime such as Israel.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79265834


The founders of America would no longer lay claim to such. It is not America anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73734076


The founders didn’t live in a world of international commerce that’s why they made tools to evolve the constitution in extreme instance to advance with a developing world.
 Quoting: Seeker 2


the amerikan founders lived in a white world they created and treasured but you and the rest of the smelly tiny hats have muddied it up

110 is coming to you soon
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Strange that Iran would allow the US to seize 4 tankers fully loaded with gasoline to have them sent to America’s largest petroleum port. Fully loaded.
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This is theft by our country.
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Yet they act like somehow the people voted or approve of that stupid shit
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Why is any country sending fuel to the richest oil nation to begin with?
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hesright
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He’s dumb you know. It’s gasoline. Petroleum products have to be refined. This site is full of low IQ people.
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I wouldn't call any of that "our" as in we have anything to do with it. It's the same cabal that carried out 911 and then invaded Iraq and slaughtered innocents
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War is coming....yet most of you stupid fucks believe you can win it without consequences that will collapse America! When the oil rockets to unimaginable levels how do you think $200-300 a barrel oil sounds? And no your shale oil will not suffice in replacement....
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This has been foretold to pass as America will be thrown into the dustbin of history.....time is short many things all coming together this fall for the storm of all storms!
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I wouldn't call any of that "our" as in we have anything to do with it. It's the same cabal that carried out 911 and then invaded Iraq and slaughtered innocents
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17 years too late.

When we French told you that invading Iraq will bring a total mess in Middle East, we were nothing but "cheese-eating surrender monkeys".

Same as when Meyssan released his book on 911.
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This is theft by our country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79178057


Yes it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22597559

Actually it's not as it is legal under international law to seize embargoed material and Iran knows it as they are a signatory to that law. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


more total lies from vile liars
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76559242


Have they mentioned it, did China or anyone file a complaint. There’s a reason because it’s a non issue, we seize tons of illegal material form all over the world. It happens everyday. Plenty of other countries do it too.
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War is coming....yet most of you stupid fucks believe you can win it without consequences that will collapse America! When the oil rockets to unimaginable levels how do you think $200-300 a barrel oil sounds? And no your shale oil will not suffice in replacement....
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We will have Venezuela in a day, check mate son.
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Yeah he did mention that didn't he.





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