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THE FIX IS IN: Postal Service warns 46 states that mail ballots may not be delivered in time to be counted

 
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Republicans don't trust mail in so they will vote in person.
Democrats do trust, so they will mail.

Sounds like a republican landslide.
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In Washington state they re-counted for 6 months,until the liberals won.Governor.He only won in one county.King.Just keep counting,counting,counting........we just found 500 votes!!!!
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Yes, very true. Not only that, but the way the laws were (and still are) written, all votes get counted, & only after the elections are certified can the validity of the ballots be investigated for fraud - but because the elections were already certified, there are no changing the results even if it is found that some races were only won due to massive fraud. It was proven that the governor actually lost & only won due to fraud in King County, but nothing ever happened.
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Go vote in your primaries. Particularly, Supervisor of Elections....They better be "honest to your county", smart and cool under pressure.
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Why does anyone think they are gonna convince anyone else of their point of view here? Your experiences on this very website should tell you that mail-in voting is not going to be accepted. Y'all will be screaming fraud and rigging, so just get in there and vote in person, ffs.
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Why does anyone think they are gonna convince anyone else of their point of view here? Your experiences on this very website should tell you that mail-in voting is not going to be accepted. Y'all will be screaming fraud and rigging, so just get in there and vote in person, ffs.
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DC BLOND BEAR HUNT 2020!


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The way things are shaping up your election day will be celebrated by multiple treasonous high profile lynchings. No frigging way the democrats are going to last till November, they are on the ropes already and Trump is just lining the ducks up, perfect timing. The art of war!

You have a military in the US, right? So what's the problem making sure the ballots are hand-delivered and hand-collected or is your postal force bigger than your military? I'm sure they would oblige, given the fact if he looses they go to war, Day 1.
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It dosent matter who wins or looses were all going to loose


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Thankfully there is no spelling test given for voter eligibility.
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Why does anyone think they are gonna convince anyone else of their point of view here? Your experiences on this very website should tell you that mail-in voting is not going to be accepted. Y'all will be screaming fraud and rigging, so just get in there and vote in person, ffs.
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Gotta keep the Yentas cackling. No common sense allowed here.
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Oh fuck. Im in the military overseas, how can i make sure my ballot will get here?
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This is good for Trump. The only people that want to vote from home are democrats. Trump supporters will be voting in person.
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Democrats better get to the polls or request absentee ballot
You know, how everyone has voted for years and years

Damn Democrats will cheat anyway the can
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Oh fuck. Im in the military overseas, how can i make sure my ballot will get here?
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Talk to your First Sergeant.
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The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) has warned officials in 46 states and the District of Columbia that delivery delays may mean that many ballots cast by mail in the November election won’t arrive in time to be counted.

The warnings were delivered in letters to state election officials by USPS general counsel and executive vice president Thomas Marshall.

In letters to 40 states, the Postal Service warned that state deadlines to request, return and count ballots may clash with the realities of mail delivery at a time when USPS is already facing financial troubles, delivery delays and an expected influx of election-related mail.

Among those states were critical electoral battlegrounds such as Florida and Michigan

Six other states and D.C. were told that the possible delays could impact smaller subsets of voters.


[link to thehill.com (secure)]
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Told you guys it was impossible. You don't try to do mass mail in ballots in the millions 3 months prior to an election. It takes at least that long for the USPO to get people hired. And they don't just hire people off the street. You have to apply for the "test", get scheduled for that and they are very, very watchful of you during that test, you have to PASS the test and then hope you score high enough to get picked for an interview over other applicants. It's a long process and includes background checks, etc.

If you want your vote to count, go to the polls.
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This is good for Trump. The only people that want to vote from home are democrats. Trump supporters will be voting in person.
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It’s not even to vote from home, absentee ballots would achieve that

It’s so they can flood neighborhoods with thousands of ballots. No regulations, you don’t even need to sign them here in CA. Deceased, illegals, non citizens get to vote too.. even a dog and cat have received a ballot. If you have an alias you will receive a ballot for each name you have ever used. Hell mail them all in, there is no way to check if they are valid and they will all be counted

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Oh fuck. Im in the military overseas, how can i make sure my ballot will get here?
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Talk to your First Sergeant.
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Vote the day you receive your absentee ballot. There is military mail transport.

Trump not making sure military votes are counted? I wouldn’t bet on it.
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U.S. Postal Service collection boxes are set to be removed across Montana.

Sen. Jon Tester is demanding answers from Postmaster General DeJoy about how many collection boxes have been removed and the rationale behind their removal.

[link to nbcmontana.com (secure)]
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Oh fuck. Im in the military overseas, how can i make sure my ballot will get here?
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Talk to your First Sergeant.
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Vote the day you receive your absentee ballot. There is military mail transport.

Trump not making sure military votes are counted? I wouldn’t bet on it.
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Also, American expats abroad will have no hope of having their votes counted.
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U.S. Postal Service collection boxes are set to be removed across Montana.

Sen. Jon Tester is demanding answers from Postmaster General DeJoy about how many collection boxes have been removed and the rationale behind their removal.

[link to nbcmontana.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78540939


This has been going on for a while. This is nothing new. The USPS has cut/removed collection boxes(blue boxes) in most major cities for years now. It is based on the number of letters collected compared to the costs of a person to collect out of them.

A Carrier is paid on average 10 minutes a day per box to collect out of it. Most boxes have a 2 or 3 pulls per day. That is 1 hour of pay per week per collection that the carriers are paid to go unlock, pull a tub out, put empty tub in and relock. Now do this for 2 and sometimes 4 times a day. If the box is not producing enough mail to cover the costs of this action the Post Office pulls this box.

Seeing how this is an article about Montana, I would assume that the boxes are mostly Rural areas of delivery from where they are getting pulled. Rural carriers are paid around the same per box and it is built into their route times/salary(rural carriers are not hourly employees.)
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If u guys haven't figured out by now that election isnt happening, I just don't know what else to say.
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If u guys haven't figured out by now that election isnt happening, I just don't know what else to say.
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If the polling places will not be open, nythinker, then yes it will be official -- no more Presidential Elections in America.
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Easy fix: GO TO YOUR POLLING PLACE TO VOTE! Don't use mail-in voting. If you can't get to your polling place, go to your County Courthouse and get an Absentee Ballet. It will be registered right then and there.

Absentee Ballots are not the same as mail-in voting.
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Absolutely correct. If you're too chicken hearted or paranoid to get your stupid ass in gear enough to show up somewhere and vote, don't vote. Do not allow your name to be added to demopoop vote by mail schemes. Simple.
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Photo of USPS removing mailboxes in Portland, OR

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Eugene, OR

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Dozens of Montana USPS drop boxes to be removed

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MAILBOXES REMOVED IN NYC

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Post boxes removed and being hauled away in Manhattan

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701187


I'm not sure why this is such a surprise to you? The USPS has been removing the central dropboxes in favor of mailbox pod mounted drop boxes for a few decades now.

The USPS plan has been to move away from property-to-property deliver service and to central community mailboxes where all residents' mail is delivered to a single location and can also be sent from that same location.

Its a simple efficiency and cost reduction. Less stops = higher volume and less staff.
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So why not use UPS?
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Laws are set up for a ballet to be postmarked and UPS cant postmark (each state has its own voting laws so it will differ) so new laws need to be created and Trump is already suing PA because they are trying to change up voting to avoid what he is doing. PA is trying to use drop boxes and Trump is attempting to make drop-boxes not an option. He says they are undemocratic and unsafe. So we will watch and see how each state handles this and how he responds.

Or he is fucking going to cancel it because how can we have an election if no one can vote and he will be so gleeful that he destroyed the Post Office and no one is stopping this. You would think even republicans would have alarms going off and arrest him.

You do know that it does not make sense for him to be so anti mail in ballot when his voters are mostly elderly who really need the mail in ballots. So his plan is to stop the election and not win it.He cannot win it.

I do not see any reason for him to be doing this because it is so insane.How can he benefit from this? Is there ever a good end for a dictator? It does not seem possible to even happen and for this reason maybe people are not as freaked as they should be. But it is actually happening and he has been open about destroying the post office for the purpose of not being able to have mail in ballots.

His plan is clear
Make USPS unusable
Make drop boxes unusable
Voting in person is dangerous because of covid and also because there is going to be riots happening and lots of police with beating sticks like in Belarus.
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In person is always better especially with an ID.
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William Barr said it himself that Russia could ship 10 million forged mail in ballots to the USA and there would be do way to detect them.

They system must be protected.
 Quoting: Jake


Anyone can send in 10 million pieces of paper.

Now how do you get those entered and accepted as ballots?

And by the way, Russia can also hack voting machines, which have no paper trail.

Thread: BREAKING: Anonymous hackers say they have proof Russia hacked into VOTING MACHINES for US election. (video)



For years now, computer scientists have been proving how easy it is to hack electronic voting machines.

Ed Felten – a Computer Science professor at Princeton University – says the machines are completely unreliable, and unless back-up paper ballots are returned, the fairness of results can never be checked or proved.

In an experiment, he discovered that it could take just one minute to change the outcome of the entire country’s election.

After numerous allegations, one voting-machine company changed its name. However, its machinery still continues to operate and will be used in the upcoming election.

Brad Friedman is a prominent U.S. blogger and investigative journalist. He spends much of his time trying to uncover the truth behind election fraud. He says it’s shocking to see how easy it is to hack into a voting machine.

“We're using these electronic voting machines all over the country that don't work, can be easily hacked, are not transparent,” he said. “And often they fail to turn on at all. We’re stuck with this crap for yet another election.”

Thread: Russia asks how 'accurate' are U.S electronic voting machines? "Alone two to three million votes were stolen in the 2000 election"


Thread: Largest Voting Machine Vendor in US Admits Its Systems Had Remote-Access Software Installed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701187


The voting machines in my state have a paper trail. A receipt prints out with your vote on it right next to the screen when submitted.
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William Barr said it himself that Russia could ship 10 million forged mail in ballots to the USA and there would be do way to detect them.

They system must be protected.
 Quoting: Jake


Anyone can send in 10 million pieces of paper.

Now how do you get those entered and accepted as ballots?

And by the way, Russia can also hack voting machines, which have no paper trail.

Thread: BREAKING: Anonymous hackers say they have proof Russia hacked into VOTING MACHINES for US election. (video)



For years now, computer scientists have been proving how easy it is to hack electronic voting machines.

Ed Felten – a Computer Science professor at Princeton University – says the machines are completely unreliable, and unless back-up paper ballots are returned, the fairness of results can never be checked or proved.

In an experiment, he discovered that it could take just one minute to change the outcome of the entire country’s election.

After numerous allegations, one voting-machine company changed its name. However, its machinery still continues to operate and will be used in the upcoming election.

Brad Friedman is a prominent U.S. blogger and investigative journalist. He spends much of his time trying to uncover the truth behind election fraud. He says it’s shocking to see how easy it is to hack into a voting machine.

“We're using these electronic voting machines all over the country that don't work, can be easily hacked, are not transparent,” he said. “And often they fail to turn on at all. We’re stuck with this crap for yet another election.”

Thread: Russia asks how 'accurate' are U.S electronic voting machines? "Alone two to three million votes were stolen in the 2000 election"


Thread: Largest Voting Machine Vendor in US Admits Its Systems Had Remote-Access Software Installed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701187


The voting machines in my state have a paper trail. A receipt prints out with your vote on it right next to the screen when submitted.
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That is good to hear, Constant Parad0x.
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In absentee voting yes, not so much with mail in voting.
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Absentee voting IS mail in voting

Jesus Christ some of you Trumpknobbers are stupid.
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No it fucking isn't.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


So we let people vote using their computers?



No, we don't. There is only one form of absentee voting allowed in the United States and it involves a verifiable paper trail.
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This article I linked explains the difference:

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Thread: Mail-only v. Absentee Ballots: One of These Is Not Like the Other!


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Democrats are just setting up a way to filibuster when they lose. Used to be “recounting” and “late ballots” but that game is up and they know people will be wise to that so this will be used to essentially allow them to say the results are NOT FINAL until every vote is counted - and give them months to “find” all these votes. It we be utter chaos and I guarantee they will run it up to the Supreme Court
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Democrats are just setting up a way to filibuster when they lose. Used to be “recounting” and “late ballots” but that game is up and they know people will be wise to that so this will be used to essentially allow them to say the results are NOT FINAL until every vote is counted - and give them months to “find” all these votes. It we be utter chaos and I guarantee they will run it up to the Supreme Court
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Seeing the track record of the Supreme Court thus far it is a safe bet to figure they will easily side with the Democrats.
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The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) has warned officials in 46 states and the District of Columbia that delivery delays may mean that many ballots cast by mail in the November election won’t arrive in time to be counted.

The warnings were delivered in letters to state election officials by USPS general counsel and executive vice president Thomas Marshall.

In letters to 40 states, the Postal Service warned that state deadlines to request, return and count ballots may clash with the realities of mail delivery at a time when USPS is already facing financial troubles, delivery delays and an expected influx of election-related mail.

Among those states were critical electoral battlegrounds such as Florida and Michigan

Six other states and D.C. were told that the possible delays could impact smaller subsets of voters.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78030312


Easy fix: GO TO YOUR POLLING PLACE TO VOTE! Don't use mail-in voting. If you can't get to your polling place, go to your County Courthouse and get an Absentee Ballet. It will be registered right then and there.

Absentee Ballots are not the same as mail-in voting.
 Quoting: Catnip


But then how will democrats cheat?





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