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Top Mathematicians Challenge Darwin’s Theory of Evolution (Prove evolution is fucking impossible)

 
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It's interesting that those Ancient Alien types begin also by conceding that the world is too complex for it to have evolved by chance. So they posit that the intelligence behind it is that of an alien.

But that's merely kicking the can down the road. Where then did said ALIEN come from?

That in fact is the argument of St. Thomas Aquinas for the existence of God. Humans are caused by aliens. Aliens are caused by other aliens. At some point, the chain has to stop with the Original Creator, and that Original Creator who Himself is so powerful that no one else created Him, that is the Person we call God.
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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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So you think we evolved from tadpoles?

:retards:
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we have tails too. and some people actually grow
their tails out.
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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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You're a good lil lap dog....I bet you also rail against the government too... I wonder who funds all these scientists you speak of....
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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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100% false. The hypothesis is pre-genetic science, and there is zero evidence 110,000 genera with closed-reproductive systems originated from the same single cell. There is localized speciation, but not morphological genusation. Darwin would never have hypothesized it with today’s scientific awareness. He doubted it then. The Tree of Life is propaganda at this point.
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The only thing Darwin got right was his observation of Natural Selection, which he mistakenly attributed to his theory of evolution between species.

Natural Selection, is in essence evolution of a species to a similar but different path of development creating a new "branch", but a finch is still a finch, and a bird is still a bird, and was never a fish.
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Precisely.
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Naturalism is a joke, and is dying.

The elite are going with neo-Platonism with the occult, Christians who understand proper metaphysics are going the ancient Eastern metaphysical route (note: panantheism is different from pantheism).


The universe is emergent, mind precedes matter. Plato was right, but didn't realize "The One" was a personal God, not an impersonal monad. Rather than henosis, we pursue theosis in our path of sanctification unto glorification.
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Good video.

Now, I'm a little disappointed in their answers to the one guy who wasn't keen on Intelligent Design.

His argument was purely theological, from the perspective that there's a lot of bad in the world.

That one guy who's in favor of Intelligent Design needed to point out that the existence of an INTELLIGENT design and a PERFECT design are completely different questions ... that can be argued separately.

If I read a novel and decide that it's crap, that still doesn't mean that I conclude there it was not written with an intelligence behind it. Also, it does not preclude that the designer set the design into motion and then it later decayed on its own (the entropy principle that the one guy DID bring up).

Denying intelligent design is like saying that you could get a billion monkeys and set them out with typewriters, and that one of them could come up with the complete works of Shakespeare by banging randomly on keys. Not even an monkeys to a trillion powers could be counted on to whip out Shakespeare, or even an intelligible short story for that matter.

But, no evolution is worse, they claim that ONE monkey just randomly banged out the complete works of Shakespeare. If evolution were random, for every ONE single successfully species, you'd have 10s of thousands of failures. For every primate that has two eyes perfectly spaced apart to give you 3D vision, you'd have 10,000 monkeys that had one eye on its ass and another on the sole of its foot.

Random evolution is absolutely statistically and mathematically IMPOSSIBLE. There's just no other way to slice it.
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We see evolution happen, and it's not random. The environment acts as a filter, it applies selection pressure towards variants that are most successful at reproducing.

"If evolution were random, for every ONE single successfully species, you'd have 10s of thousands of failures."

99% of species ARE extinct.

"For every primate that has two eyes perfectly spaced apart to give you 3D vision, you'd have 10,000 monkeys that had one eye on its ass and another on the sole of its foot."

What? No. A mutation that caused eyes on the foot has probably never happened to monkeys, and if it did, it would probably reduce the likelihood of survival.

Prey animals like horses and deer don't have forward facing eyes, their eyes are on the sides of their head, because that has more benefit in their environment.
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Evolution and creationism are of course two totally different topics. Evolution has to do with living things evolving to cope with and adapt to their environment. I don't see how that can be controversial. The reason for the confusion is that some go on to try to reason that the evolution theory explains the origins of matter and life, which it of course doesn't even address. No evolutionist or atheist can possibly explain the origins of matter and life, simply because their pride doesn't allow them to acknowledge that there has to be an uncaused cause, and that the uncaused cause is beyond our understanding. And then the part that actually is humorous to observe is that it triggers the evolutionists and the atheists (and the god haters) when someone chooses to call that uncaused cause "GOD".
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Agnosticism is the only way.
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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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“Evolution is directly observable” has to be one of the funniest damn things I have read in awhile. Thanks for the laugh man.
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No problem bro! You should check out these hilarious comedy series, I think they're called: peer reviewed scientific journals.
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"Peer review" is, almost literally, a true "Circle Jerk."

Science by consensus, gatekeeping and backscratching.

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Pretty clear that life has evolved through random mutations, just by looking at the sometimes very awkward and convoluted solutions to biological problems that life has found. Not to mention that only a complete sadistic monster would have come up with some of the creatures and parasitic lifestyles.

Also pretty clear that the universe as a whole is alive and that there is some sort of divine intelligence and purpose to it.

It also seems pretty clear that there is a hands-off approach to life at least on this planet - meteors and stuff have regularly come in and wiped out most advanced life forms including humans.

Seems a pretty cavalier attitude to have if you ask me - unless I suppose that there are a million other similar experiments going on at the same time - even then it's got to be pretty distant 'supreme being' that lets a whole planet be wiped out by a random chunk of rock.
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clappa nice to hear from someone with a brain
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when you accept evolution EVERYTHING makes sense.

You cannot say that for creationism without a bunch of conflicting hopeful madeup nonsense about "god works in mysterious ways" etc.

If that's true, then you have no leg to stand on in defending your position if you are not to understand.
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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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“Evolution is directly observable” has to be one of the funniest damn things I have read in awhile. Thanks for the laugh man.
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No problem bro! You should check out these hilarious comedy series, I think they're called: peer reviewed scientific journals.
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"Peer review" is, almost literally, a true "Circle Jerk."

Science by consensus, gatekeeping and backscratching.

drevil
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You left out politically correct dogma. Nothing else is allowed.
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Good video.

Now, I'm a little disappointed in their answers to the one guy who wasn't keen on Intelligent Design.

His argument was purely theological, from the perspective that there's a lot of bad in the world.

That one guy who's in favor of Intelligent Design needed to point out that the existence of an INTELLIGENT design and a PERFECT design are completely different questions ... that can be argued separately.

If I read a novel and decide that it's crap, that still doesn't mean that I conclude there it was not written with an intelligence behind it. Also, it does not preclude that the designer set the design into motion and then it later decayed on its own (the entropy principle that the one guy DID bring up).

Denying intelligent design is like saying that you could get a billion monkeys and set them out with typewriters, and that one of them could come up with the complete works of Shakespeare by banging randomly on keys. Not even an monkeys to a trillion powers could be counted on to whip out Shakespeare, or even an intelligible short story for that matter.

But, no evolution is worse, they claim that ONE monkey just randomly banged out the complete works of Shakespeare. If evolution were random, for every ONE single successfully species, you'd have 10s of thousands of failures. For every primate that has two eyes perfectly spaced apart to give you 3D vision, you'd have 10,000 monkeys that had one eye on its ass and another on the sole of its foot.

Random evolution is absolutely statistically and mathematically IMPOSSIBLE. There's just no other way to slice it.
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Evolution is not random. That's what natural selection is all about. Any monkey fetuses that have eyes on their feet aren't even going to live to be born. And mutations are hardly ever that major, anyway.
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“Evolution is directly observable” has to be one of the funniest damn things I have read in awhile. Thanks for the laugh man.
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No problem bro! You should check out these hilarious comedy series, I think they're called: peer reviewed scientific journals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79198827


"Peer review" is, almost literally, a true "Circle Jerk."

Science by consensus, gatekeeping and backscratching.

drevil
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You left out politically correct dogma. Nothing else is allowed.
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How is evolution not directly observable? The food chain is an instant proof.
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Good video.

Now, I'm a little disappointed in their answers to the one guy who wasn't keen on Intelligent Design.

His argument was purely theological, from the perspective that there's a lot of bad in the world.

That one guy who's in favor of Intelligent Design needed to point out that the existence of an INTELLIGENT design and a PERFECT design are completely different questions ... that can be argued separately.

If I read a novel and decide that it's crap, that still doesn't mean that I conclude there it was not written with an intelligence behind it. Also, it does not preclude that the designer set the design into motion and then it later decayed on its own (the entropy principle that the one guy DID bring up).

Denying intelligent design is like saying that you could get a billion monkeys and set them out with typewriters, and that one of them could come up with the complete works of Shakespeare by banging randomly on keys. Not even an monkeys to a trillion powers could be counted on to whip out Shakespeare, or even an intelligible short story for that matter.

But, no evolution is worse, they claim that ONE monkey just randomly banged out the complete works of Shakespeare. If evolution were random, for every ONE single successfully species, you'd have 10s of thousands of failures. For every primate that has two eyes perfectly spaced apart to give you 3D vision, you'd have 10,000 monkeys that had one eye on its ass and another on the sole of its foot.

Random evolution is absolutely statistically and mathematically IMPOSSIBLE. There's just no other way to slice it.
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Evolution is not random. That's what natural selection is all about. Any monkey fetuses that have eyes on their feet aren't even going to live to be born. And mutations are hardly ever that major, anyway.
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exactly. And it takes thousands of years which is why humans have a difficult time digesting such things within their lifespans.
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No problem bro! You should check out these hilarious comedy series, I think they're called: peer reviewed scientific journals.
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"Peer review" is, almost literally, a true "Circle Jerk."

Science by consensus, gatekeeping and backscratching.

drevil
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You left out politically correct dogma. Nothing else is allowed.
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How is evolution not directly observable? The food chain is an instant proof.
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Did you even watch the video?
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Allow me to simplify this for everyone.

A litter of kittens is born near the woods, and a family takes care of them . Most are multicolored and blend in with the surroundings but one cat is white.

A few days or weeks afterwards, the white cat gets eaten by a fox because of his very apparent coloring... the cat couldn't hide because he was bright white amongst darker colored surroundings, stands out like a sore thumb.

That cat's genes will no longer be around to reproduce more white cats other than as a fluke.

This fluke becomes less likely the more often the white colors expressed themselves and the kitten gets eaten.

On the flip side, brightly colored plants attract animals in order to spread their genes whereas the plants/flowers/fruits that blend in with the surrounding environment get much less attention by the animals that spread their seed through consumption/excretion or pollination.
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Thanks for the juanstar
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Your Welcome!


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DNA answers evolution, all living things share ancestral DNA. Its not even a question anymore.
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It seems most of the mocking is coming from creation camp .. stuff like "thats it, end of story, if you believe a spinning rock in space that formed by accident youre a fricken idiot.".. and so on.

reading these replies its screams of ego which imo doesnt jive with spiritual wisdom or enlightenment. pretty much what you expect from those who talk the talk but dont walk the walk.

becareful then because if you live by the book you claim, theres something written in it for the posers and how god feels about them.
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All good seed breeders are doing is exploiting this process to create hybrids that have desirable traits rather than leaving it to chance in nature.

None of this negates the existence of a higher power.


It's a false dichotomy... creation vs. evolution.

False dilemma.
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"Peer review" is, almost literally, a true "Circle Jerk."

Science by consensus, gatekeeping and backscratching.

drevil
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You left out politically correct dogma. Nothing else is allowed.
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How is evolution not directly observable? The food chain is an instant proof.
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Did you even watch the video?
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Ever seen a two faced cat? Or a double headed human?
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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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100% false. The hypothesis is pre-genetic science, and there is zero evidence 110,000 genera with closed-reproductive systems originated from the same single cell. There is localized speciation, but not morphological genusation. Darwin would never have hypothesized it with today’s scientific awareness. He doubted it then. The Tree of Life is propaganda at this point.
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And yet all 110,000 genera have the exact same genetic code (even one with a different genetic code would utterly refute evolution), and they can be organized into a family tree. (Again, just one that doesn't fit into the family tree would utterly refute evolution.)
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Agnosticism is the only way.
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Panpsychism or death
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Top cryptographer Proves the Bible is Supernaturally designed.




The word Elohim (God) occurs 32 times in the first chapter of the Bible.


Verse 32 = 5

Genesis 2:1 = 3

5+3 = 8

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.


32 numbers of Pi / 31102 = Remainder 19633

Verse 19633 = 22 = 4

Jeremiah 28:14 = 42 = 6

22+42 = 66 = 12 = 3

For thus saith YAHUWAH of Hosts, the God of Israel; I have put a yoke of iron upon the neck of all these nations, that they may serve Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon; and they shall serve him: and I have given him the beasts of the field also.


32 numbers of Phi / 31102 = Remainder: 10094

Verse 10094 = 14 = 5

2Kings 19:32 = 51 = 6

14+51 = 65 = 11 = 2

Therefore thus saith YAHUWAH concerning the king of Assyria, He shall not come into this city, nor shoot an arrow there, nor come before it with shield, nor cast a bank against it.


32 numbers of e' / 31102 = Remainder: 11146

Verse 11146 = 13 = 4 _ The 6th Prime Number

1Chronicles 28:2 = 30 = 3

13+30 = 43 = 7 _ The 14th Prime Number 5

Then David the king stood up upon his feet, and said, Hear me, my brethren, and my people: As for me, I had in mine heart to build an house of rest for the ark of the covenant of YAHUWAH, and for the footstool of our God, and had made ready for the building:


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32 numbers of Pi / 31102 = Remainder: 19633
31415926535897932384626433832795

32 numbers of Phi / 31102 = Remainder: 10094
16180339887498948482045868343656

32 numbers of e' / 31102 = Remainder: 11146
27182818284590452353602874713526


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Top cryptographer Proves that the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness comprehends it not.



8.20.2020 Day Month Year

20.8.2020 Month Day Year


8202020 / 31102 = Remainder: 22194

2082020 / 31102 = Remainder: 29288


DMY

Verse 22194 = 18 = 9

Hosea 7:15 = 22 = 4

18+22 = 40 = 4

Though I have bound and strengthened their arms, yet do they imagine mischief against Me.

MDY

Verse 29288 = 29 = 11 = 2 _ The 10th Prime Number 1

Ephesians 4:15 = 19 = 10 = 1 _ The 7th Prime Number

11+19 = 30 = 3

But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Mashiach:


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We observed fruit flies that lived for 80+ years under induced isolation finally became separate species where one group could no longer breed with the other group.
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Peter Robinson discusses it with David Berlinski, David Gelernter, and Stephen Meyer, who have raised doubts about Darwin’s theory in their two books and essay, respectively The Deniable Darwin, Darwin’s Doubt, and “Giving Up Darwin” (published in the Claremont Review of Books).
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Haven't watched the vid or read through the thread but I already know the religion tards will immediately conclude that then of course we were all created by some god in the sky. Does it or did it ever occur to any of you that an advanced species could have created the human race via genetic splicing and other means which we as a human race are probably within another millenia of being capable of doing as well?

My theory (which is not exclusively mine) is that an advanced species, I.e. the Annunaki, combined their dna with primates that existed before us, and thus created us. The idea that it must either be evolution or creationism is ridiculous, especially considering that what may seem impossible is most usually possible with developed knowledge and technology. Knowledge and technology that yet again we could soon possess as well.

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