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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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If you are referring to the examples Darwin pointed out how animals of the same species in different geographical and temperate areas seem to have physically changed to fit their environment? No it is not.
If the evidence you speak of is real it would be evident all around us where those species would be adapting to some environmental change. NOT ALREADY CHANGED, in the process of doing so. A limb or appendage that was changing to fit it's environment.

There is not one case of physical deformation throughout a majority of a population which could be reasoned as evolution to fit it's environment.

Genealogists have been trying for a hundred years to produce an evolutionary change in fruit flies. A new generation is hatched every 48 hours. No evidence of environmental adaptation through evolution.
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You don't know what you're talking about. A lot has changed in the last 150 years since Darwin wrote his book.

the fruit fly experiments have produced evolution. Go look into it.
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They are still flies. They are not going to become frogs, or orangutans, or birds or any other species no matter how much time elapses. The basic premise of evolution of one species transforming into all is false. It can only affect smaller changes within such as color or size.
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well, in 4 billion years, it seems like
a lot has happened to me.
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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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You can’t extrapolate a tiny sample to the whole. Not to mention you evolutionists cant explain the blood types in relation to “evolution”.=

Btw, us Creationists make up the majority of MENSA members.
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Which says enough about Mensa maybe?
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You don't know what scientific is, sir. The orign of a theory is irrelevant to its validity. You claimed that evolution and the big bang are separate in order to make them easier to defend. Implying intentional deceit. rather than the simple explanation, which is that they are in two different fields of study, and they were created decades apart. You're claiming things you can't possibly know, that's dishonest.

"How does nothing explode into everything for no reason?"

That question is incoherent. 'Nothing' is the absence of a thing. NO-THING. Nothing can not do things, such as explode.
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I didn't claim that you were the one who separated them, but you have tried to use that fact to argue your point, which is the reason they were separated for you in the first place.

I see, well then let me rephrase the question: what was here before the big bang?
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No, that's not the reason they are seperate and you can't possibly know that. To claim something is the case when you don't know it is the equivalent of lying.

I'm no physicist, but here's my understanding of the big bang (which has nothing to do with evolution). If the big bang model is correct, the consensus is that prior to the big bang, all the energy in the universe was compressed into a singularity of infinite density, where the passage of time essentially freezes.
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That is how they start their theory out, yes, but how did it get there? why would it explode for no reason? That's the point. The theory of evolution relies on the big bang theory to even exist. Creation dictates that God spoke everything into existence and then created earth and everything on it the way he wanted it to be. Big bang/evolution dictates that everything started out in a super compressed ball (for no reason) and one day exploded(for no reason) into billions of planets, stars, etc and(all by accident) or earth just so happened to land in the perfect spot. Thats where your part of the theory begins, so you're already familiar with the rest.
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You have a really backwards understanding of the theories you're discussing.

First, you're equating two different models in two different fields as the same theory. The creator of the Big bang was a priest. To him, the process of the big bang is simply a more detailed account of the first days of Genesis.

Darwin made his theory before the big bang was ever presented. Evolution does not rely on the big bang. You could believe in evolution and simply not know how the universe started, or you could believe god started it, or aliens, or we're in a computer simulation or any number of things. You're just not correct here.

The big bang model is the prevailing theory in cosmology and evolution is the prevailing theory in biology, because each are supported by the evidence. Special relativity is the prevailing model in physics, but you don't consider that part of evolution. If any of these theories change, it will not necessarily affect the acceptance of the other theories.

Physicists have different ideas about the reason for the expansion, or the existence of the singularity, but these are generally accepted to be unknown. Science does not make any declarations of absolute truth in the way that religion does. It provides explanatory models that make accurate predictions.
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Evolution is the process of change in all forms of life over generations.

Evolution is halted, though it can't be halted as it always changes, but considering that humans are not the kind of animal that the rest animals are, evolution is halted for humans. Also the scientists were given the green card to complete the change to the human specie and practically we'll see as time passes, human specie to become obsolete as in dinosaurs pattern.
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Evolution is the process of change in all forms of life over generations.

mmm, ok, that is acceptable for the animals part.

Humans were put after. And they were from start against evolution, it was a countdown from the very moment humans appeared upon Earth, a countdown for watching how quickly they will adapt to evolution or go against evolution.

And of course they went against.
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Our species is more than just your worldview... we'll be here loong after our lifetimes, your view is very limited and restricted to the big picture/long run
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The "brilliant" idiots who continue to reject God will soon be in very hot water.
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Peter Robinson discusses it with David Berlinski, David Gelernter, and Stephen Meyer, who have raised doubts about Darwin’s theory in their two books and essay, respectively The Deniable Darwin, Darwin’s Doubt, and “Giving Up Darwin” (published in the Claremont Review of Books).
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Look, the Universe is only a few thousand years old. It is a Creation. Human beings cannot accept this, but it is the truth.
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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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Did you ever see a monkey becoming a man? Or one advanced species changed into another, something that never existed before?
Why monkeys are not constantly turning into men if evolution is working? Or did it stop for thousands of years for some reason?

Scientists don’t know how and why cells in our body work. The only thing they can is accept without solid proof or explanation. They accept many things but cannot explain them. This is religion, not science.
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Evolution is the process of change in all forms of life over generations.

mmm, ok, that is acceptable for the animals part.

Humans were put after. And they were from start against evolution, it was a countdown from the very moment humans appeared upon Earth, a countdown for watching how quickly they will adapt to evolution or go against evolution.

And of course they went against.
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Our species is more than just your worldview... we'll be here loong after our lifetimes, your view is very limited and restricted to the big picture/long run
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Mortal species will not be here long after their lifetime, even that previous sentence is illogical, to answer it, one must know what happens after death.

So?

Not Agreed.
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If you are referring to the examples Darwin pointed out how animals of the same species in different geographical and temperate areas seem to have physically changed to fit their environment? No it is not.
If the evidence you speak of is real it would be evident all around us where those species would be adapting to some environmental change. NOT ALREADY CHANGED, in the process of doing so. A limb or appendage that was changing to fit it's environment.

There is not one case of physical deformation throughout a majority of a population which could be reasoned as evolution to fit it's environment.

Genealogists have been trying for a hundred years to produce an evolutionary change in fruit flies. A new generation is hatched every 48 hours. No evidence of environmental adaptation through evolution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44950421


You don't know what you're talking about. A lot has changed in the last 150 years since Darwin wrote his book.

the fruit fly experiments have produced evolution. Go look into it.
 Quoting: Cord

They are still flies. They are not going to become frogs, or orangutans, or birds or any other species no matter how much time elapses. The basic premise of evolution of one species transforming into all is false. It can only affect smaller changes within such as color or size.
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If they became frogs or orangutans it would prove evolution false. You don't know what can happen given millions of years, that's just your baseless assertion. DNA and the fossil record support the idea that different species share a common ancestor.

We have seen mutations that change more than colour and size.
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The "brilliant" idiots who continue to reject God will soon be in very hot water.
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Nice violent hateful murdering creator you've got there. Just waiting to punish all time. My God says it's people like YOU That twist everything and YOUR In hot water!!5a
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Amen. They know not what they do.


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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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You can’t extrapolate a tiny sample to the whole. Not to mention you evolutionists cant explain the blood types in relation to “evolution”.=

Btw, us Creationists make up the majority of MENSA members.
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Clearly Mensa's standards are slipping, these days, if they accept people who say "...us Creationists make up..." instead of "...we creationists make up...".

Perhaps, you meant "...us cretins...".
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Humans are not animals, animals exist to support the structure.

Of course through evolution the animals change to adapt to the new species that must support, so now we see a reduction in animals because the support is not needed for the next species that will appear, evolution is halted in humans by their actions, cause they did not align with the rest Creation. It's pretty simple actually, you have a Planet that supports a specific kind of life, so life started, humans could not come first as they would not be able to continue to the now as it is, you can't have them eating each other without animals, so first the animals appeared, of course to seem normal at this time the procedure should follow some specific simple steps that would not confuse anyone to the here and now as of how humans appeared, not confuse but to have them debate the matter.
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Evolution is the process of change in all forms of life over generations.

mmm, ok, that is acceptable for the animals part.

Humans were put after. And they were from start against evolution, it was a countdown from the very moment humans appeared upon Earth, a countdown for watching how quickly they will adapt to evolution or go against evolution.

And of course they went against.
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Our species is more than just your worldview... we'll be here loong after our lifetimes, your view is very limited and restricted to the big picture/long run
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75487912


Mortal species will not be here long after their lifetime, even that previous sentence is illogical, to answer it, one must know what happens after death.

So?

Not Agreed.
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Not speaking about human individuals but the species as a whole...your idea is just one small idea in a long past and future of new ideas. In short I wouldn't accept the first "truth" that comes to your mind as humans are not at full potential unless we're constantly open and learning new truths and knowledge
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I didn't claim that you were the one who separated them, but you have tried to use that fact to argue your point, which is the reason they were separated for you in the first place.

I see, well then let me rephrase the question: what was here before the big bang?
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No, that's not the reason they are seperate and you can't possibly know that. To claim something is the case when you don't know it is the equivalent of lying.

I'm no physicist, but here's my understanding of the big bang (which has nothing to do with evolution). If the big bang model is correct, the consensus is that prior to the big bang, all the energy in the universe was compressed into a singularity of infinite density, where the passage of time essentially freezes.
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That is how they start their theory out, yes, but how did it get there? why would it explode for no reason? That's the point. The theory of evolution relies on the big bang theory to even exist. Creation dictates that God spoke everything into existence and then created earth and everything on it the way he wanted it to be. Big bang/evolution dictates that everything started out in a super compressed ball (for no reason) and one day exploded(for no reason) into billions of planets, stars, etc and(all by accident) or earth just so happened to land in the perfect spot. Thats where your part of the theory begins, so you're already familiar with the rest.
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You have a really backwards understanding of the theories you're discussing.

First, you're equating two different models in two different fields as the same theory. The creator of the Big bang was a priest. To him, the process of the big bang is simply a more detailed account of the first days of Genesis.

Darwin made his theory before the big bang was ever presented. Evolution does not rely on the big bang. You could believe in evolution and simply not know how the universe started, or you could believe god started it, or aliens, or we're in a computer simulation or any number of things. You're just not correct here.

The big bang model is the prevailing theory in cosmology and evolution is the prevailing theory in biology, because each are supported by the evidence. Special relativity is the prevailing model in physics, but you don't consider that part of evolution. If any of these theories change, it will not necessarily affect the acceptance of the other theories.

Physicists have different ideas about the reason for the expansion, or the existence of the singularity, but these are generally accepted to be unknown. Science does not make any declarations of absolute truth in the way that religion does. It provides explanatory models that make accurate predictions.
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Three theory of evolution and the big bang are both derived from the Kabbalah. In fact, all of our science is. That's the reason science was rejected as sorcery by the church. The priest and Darwin did not invent them. Thats where you are going wrong with your assessment of my interpretation of the theories.
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The "brilliant" idiots who continue to reject God will soon be in very hot water.
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Amen. They know not what they do.


"If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him." ~ James 1:5



""Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is folly with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their craftiness,” and again, “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.”” ~ 1 Corinthians 3:18-20
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Not Amen of course, not at least the Amen of the Creator, but you can use the Amen of the Gods they created, no problem with that.

The Creator is not seeking revenge and punishment.

As another commenter previously mentioned and did well by saying it.
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Evolution is the process of change in all forms of life over generations.

mmm, ok, that is acceptable for the animals part.

Humans were put after. And they were from start against evolution, it was a countdown from the very moment humans appeared upon Earth, a countdown for watching how quickly they will adapt to evolution or go against evolution.

And of course they went against.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78640487


Our species is more than just your worldview... we'll be here loong after our lifetimes, your view is very limited and restricted to the big picture/long run
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75487912


Mortal species will not be here long after their lifetime, even that previous sentence is illogical, to answer it, one must know what happens after death.

So?

Not Agreed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78640487


Not speaking about human individuals but the species as a whole...your idea is just one small idea in a long past and future of new ideas. In short I wouldn't accept the first "truth" that comes to your mind as humans are not at full potential unless we're constantly open and learning new truths and knowledge
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True, but now there are lot of humans, and it's already in progress a big change so to support what you call, unleash of full potentials that human species have.
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The "brilliant" idiots who continue to reject God will soon be in very hot water.
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The only evidence I see of evolution is mental.

The NWO has successfully evolved the minds of many
individuals of last 2 generations into dumbed down,
entitled, sexually screwed up libtards.

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So many possibilities to form 1 protein.

If it was, every cell with every other cell "meetings",
(as if without "the design" of life),
we would be just a complex sponge cake like organism
not humans at all

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The "brilliant" idiots who continue to reject God will soon be in very hot water.
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Amen. They know not what they do.


"If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him." ~ James 1:5



""Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is folly with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their craftiness,” and again, “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.”” ~ 1 Corinthians 3:18-20
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Why do people here and in general science, try to explain what evolution is through beaming out of Earth? Big bang or so has no significance in the evolution, actually it has none, it would be much more easier if everybody started from the base, Earth. You can explain everything in regards with the capabilities that one has, and the capabilities of the human mind are restricted for now for their own safety.
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So many possibilities to form 1 protein.

If it was, every cell with every other cell "meetings",
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we would be just a complex sponge cake like organism
not humans at all

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Sponge Bob, FTW!

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No, that's not the reason they are seperate and you can't possibly know that. To claim something is the case when you don't know it is the equivalent of lying.

I'm no physicist, but here's my understanding of the big bang (which has nothing to do with evolution). If the big bang model is correct, the consensus is that prior to the big bang, all the energy in the universe was compressed into a singularity of infinite density, where the passage of time essentially freezes.
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That is how they start their theory out, yes, but how did it get there? why would it explode for no reason? That's the point. The theory of evolution relies on the big bang theory to even exist. Creation dictates that God spoke everything into existence and then created earth and everything on it the way he wanted it to be. Big bang/evolution dictates that everything started out in a super compressed ball (for no reason) and one day exploded(for no reason) into billions of planets, stars, etc and(all by accident) or earth just so happened to land in the perfect spot. Thats where your part of the theory begins, so you're already familiar with the rest.
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You have a really backwards understanding of the theories you're discussing.

First, you're equating two different models in two different fields as the same theory. The creator of the Big bang was a priest. To him, the process of the big bang is simply a more detailed account of the first days of Genesis.

Darwin made his theory before the big bang was ever presented. Evolution does not rely on the big bang. You could believe in evolution and simply not know how the universe started, or you could believe god started it, or aliens, or we're in a computer simulation or any number of things. You're just not correct here.

The big bang model is the prevailing theory in cosmology and evolution is the prevailing theory in biology, because each are supported by the evidence. Special relativity is the prevailing model in physics, but you don't consider that part of evolution. If any of these theories change, it will not necessarily affect the acceptance of the other theories.

Physicists have different ideas about the reason for the expansion, or the existence of the singularity, but these are generally accepted to be unknown. Science does not make any declarations of absolute truth in the way that religion does. It provides explanatory models that make accurate predictions.
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Three theory of evolution and the big bang are both derived from the Kabbalah. In fact, all of our science is. That's the reason science was rejected as sorcery by the church. The priest and Darwin did not invent them. Thats where you are going wrong with your assessment of my interpretation of the theories.
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Why do you think all science comes from the kabbalah? Can you back that up?

Even if that's the case, it doesn't matter. There are physicists with alternative models to the big bang theory, and they still accept evolution. Likewise, there are some scientists that accept the big bang theory but not evolution. So this is just a pointless tangent.

Evolution prevails because it is objectively the most practical theory. It makes the most accurate predictions. Using evolution theory, we can predict where fossils will appear and the order in which they appear. We can predict which two species will share the most viruses and genetic markers. We can predict the long term effects of medicine.

Creationism can't make any predictions. It has no applications. It's useless. As soon as a theory comes along that makes more accurate predictions than evolution, then evolution will be replaced, but so far there's no sign of that happening.
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Re: Top Mathematicians Challenge Darwin’s Theory of Evolution (Prove evolution is fucking impossible)
Why do people here and in general science, try to explain what evolution is through beaming out of Earth? Big bang or so has no significance in the evolution, actually it has none, it would be much more easier if everybody started from the base, Earth. You can explain everything in regards with the capabilities that one has, and the capabilities of the human mind are restricted for now for their own safety.
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It doesn't work that way. Either God created everything as it is or it's all just an accident. If you have to split His creation into tiny parts to make your theory gut then you don't have a valid theory.





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