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Top Mathematicians Challenge Darwin’s Theory of Evolution (Prove evolution is fucking impossible)

 
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Creationism needs no predictions? Then you have left the realm of science.

You seem to completely miss the value of science, and how much it has provided to humanity. All scientific theories make predictions about the behavior of some aspect of the natural word. Newtons theories for example enable us to predict the orbit of a celestial body before we ever observe a full orbit. This has enabled us to plot complex trajectories for satellites and rockets.

Evolution theory predicts the exact sequence of the fossil record. For example: If fish evolved into amphibians, then in order to find transitional fossils between those groups, we should look in the rock layers dated between the emergence of the first fish and the first amphibians. Paleontologists looked and they discovered new species species such as tiktalik, which have the traits of fish and amphibians.

Evolution theory predicts that the vertebrate fossil record will go: fish>amphibian>reptile>dinosaur>bird, and we never find anything that breaks this sequence. There are no birds before the first land animals, no rabbits before the dinosaurs, no apes before reptiles etc

Evolution also predicts which species will share the most ERVs (hereditary viral genes) based on this same sequence we observe in the fossil record, and it all matches up.
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That's the whole point. Creationism doesn't require science. Science is man trying to figure out creation.

I understand the value of science. It pales in comparison to what has been created. Your science will never bring you to the point of being able to create what He already created. It is just child's play by comparison.

What you think you see in the fossil record is all there is to your project. You are not going to discover an evolution from one creature alive today into another, new creature. There are no examples of any creature that is in the process of changing into something different. There are only variations and those have been exactly as they are now for thousands of years (since at least the great flood).
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So, you presuppose your conclusion, independent of the data, and you will dismiss any data that contradicts your model. Not the best way to acquire knowledge in my opinion.

We do see evolution occurring today. Changes accumulate every generation. We have evidence that seals were land animals, and they appear to be in the process of becoming more aquatic. A thousand years isn't that long for evolution to take place. It's estimated that lions and house cats diverged from a common ancestor close to 8 million years ago.
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That's right. Because my religion is not science. I'm not trying to find new ways to doubt my creator. He told us all we need to know to survive on this planet. You can keep searching for what you rink is out there, but it will always come up short, because you're working with the mind of a mere human. One step up from a monkey pushing dirt around with a stick. You'll never be capable of understanding what He knows, even if he wrote it all down and gave it to you. It's too complex. If you need an example, buy your goldfish a book on construction and tell it to build you a house. That's how close you will actually get to understanding what you really think you want to know.
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You're a human too which means you can't understand what you think you want to know. However I have the benefit of a tool (science) that gave you the computer you're using and improves the quality of billions of lives.
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That's the whole point. Creationism doesn't require science. Science is man trying to figure out creation.

I understand the value of science. It pales in comparison to what has been created. Your science will never bring you to the point of being able to create what He already created. It is just child's play by comparison.

What you think you see in the fossil record is all there is to your project. You are not going to discover an evolution from one creature alive today into another, new creature. There are no examples of any creature that is in the process of changing into something different. There are only variations and those have been exactly as they are now for thousands of years (since at least the great flood).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79283235


So, you presuppose your conclusion, independent of the data, and you will dismiss any data that contradicts your model. Not the best way to acquire knowledge in my opinion.

We do see evolution occurring today. Changes accumulate every generation. We have evidence that seals were land animals, and they appear to be in the process of becoming more aquatic. A thousand years isn't that long for evolution to take place. It's estimated that lions and house cats diverged from a common ancestor close to 8 million years ago.
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That's right. Because my religion is not science. I'm not trying to find new ways to doubt my creator. He told us all we need to know to survive on this planet. You can keep searching for what you rink is out there, but it will always come up short, because you're working with the mind of a mere human. One step up from a monkey pushing dirt around with a stick. You'll never be capable of understanding what He knows, even if he wrote it all down and gave it to you. It's too complex. If you need an example, buy your goldfish a book on construction and tell it to build you a house. That's how close you will actually get to understanding what you really think you want to know.
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You're a human too which means you can't understand what you think you want to know. However I have the benefit of a tool (science) that gave you the computer you're using and improves the quality of billions of lives.
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And I understand my computer just as well as you do, maybe better, but a computer doesn't compare to creation, now does it?
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Missing link between what? We have about 20 hominin species that are more human-like than any living ape. When we line them up chronologically, the presence of human-like traits increase with time. Brains get bigger, teeth get smaller, arms get shorter etc.
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You are looking at the corruption of all flesh described in the time before the great flood and interpreting it to mean something it's not. Nothing evolved.
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Says you. Why aren't humans present before these hominins if they are corrupted flesh?

Why does the corrupted flesh get closer to human over time?
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They don't. You just think they do.
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Sorry, but hearing you say 'nuh-uh' isn't going to make me forget that these fossils exist and that we can date them with various methods. They objectively do get more human-like over time, and humans do not predate them. It's a fact.
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So, you presuppose your conclusion, independent of the data, and you will dismiss any data that contradicts your model. Not the best way to acquire knowledge in my opinion.

We do see evolution occurring today. Changes accumulate every generation. We have evidence that seals were land animals, and they appear to be in the process of becoming more aquatic. A thousand years isn't that long for evolution to take place. It's estimated that lions and house cats diverged from a common ancestor close to 8 million years ago.
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That's right. Because my religion is not science. I'm not trying to find new ways to doubt my creator. He told us all we need to know to survive on this planet. You can keep searching for what you rink is out there, but it will always come up short, because you're working with the mind of a mere human. One step up from a monkey pushing dirt around with a stick. You'll never be capable of understanding what He knows, even if he wrote it all down and gave it to you. It's too complex. If you need an example, buy your goldfish a book on construction and tell it to build you a house. That's how close you will actually get to understanding what you really think you want to know.
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You're a human too which means you can't understand what you think you want to know. However I have the benefit of a tool (science) that gave you the computer you're using and improves the quality of billions of lives.
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And I understand my computer just as well as you do, maybe better, but a computer doesn't compare to creation, now does it?
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Does it compare to the universe? I guess not. Who said it does? I don't know for certain if the universe is a 'creation' but it could be. And if it was, the evidence for evolution would still exist.

You're kind of all over the place. Are we talking about evolution or what?
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You are looking at the corruption of all flesh described in the time before the great flood and interpreting it to mean something it's not. Nothing evolved.
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Says you. Why aren't humans present before these hominins if they are corrupted flesh?

Why does the corrupted flesh get closer to human over time?
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They don't. You just think they do.
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Sorry, but hearing you say 'nuh-uh' isn't going to make me forget that these fossils exist and that we can date them with various methods. They objectively do get more human-like over time, and humans do not predate them. It's a fact.
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Your dating methods have proven faulty time and time again. Seems like every time I crack open a new book they've had to revise the timeline, but you just go ahead and take comfort in your feeble ability to accurately describe the distant past. It's not my time you're wasting.
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That's right. Because my religion is not science. I'm not trying to find new ways to doubt my creator. He told us all we need to know to survive on this planet. You can keep searching for what you rink is out there, but it will always come up short, because you're working with the mind of a mere human. One step up from a monkey pushing dirt around with a stick. You'll never be capable of understanding what He knows, even if he wrote it all down and gave it to you. It's too complex. If you need an example, buy your goldfish a book on construction and tell it to build you a house. That's how close you will actually get to understanding what you really think you want to know.
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You're a human too which means you can't understand what you think you want to know. However I have the benefit of a tool (science) that gave you the computer you're using and improves the quality of billions of lives.
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And I understand my computer just as well as you do, maybe better, but a computer doesn't compare to creation, now does it?
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Does it compare to the universe? I guess not. Who said it does? I don't know for certain if the universe is a 'creation' but it could be. And if it was, the evidence for evolution would still exist.

You're kind of all over the place. Are we talking about evolution or what?
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I don't know.... what's the thread topic? :))
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Great Debate! Totally agree darwin only able to explain a part of evolution. But complexities of life emergence have yet to be determined. Simple answer, we do not know enough. Personally I believe there is some basic force or type of radiation that enables the basics of life to form different species. Probably occurs after large impacts on earth happens. Rings the bell some how? We cant know this though, because we have never studied or witnessed one.
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The "brilliant" idiots who continue to reject God will soon be in very hot water.
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:not god:
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The "brilliant" idiots who continue to reject God will soon be in very hot water.
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:not god:
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If only God were as simple as a meme created by a simpleton. Then everyone would be able to comprehend Him.
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Why can't evolution explain the physical and creationism explain the spiritual? Everyone happy tounge all this extremism gets people no where but arguments, anger, and confusion.. like the guy above said as long as we're good people and love everyone we should be alright if there really is life after death
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Says you. Why aren't humans present before these hominins if they are corrupted flesh?

Why does the corrupted flesh get closer to human over time?
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They don't. You just think they do.
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Sorry, but hearing you say 'nuh-uh' isn't going to make me forget that these fossils exist and that we can date them with various methods. They objectively do get more human-like over time, and humans do not predate them. It's a fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79198827


Your dating methods have proven faulty time and time again. Seems like every time I crack open a new book they've had to revise the timeline, but you just go ahead and take comfort in your feeble ability to accurately describe the distant past. It's not my time you're wasting.
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Maybe stop cracking open Creationist books. The dates are pretty consistent. I'll continue to rely on scientific models, as will you, regardless of how feeble our abilities may be. Difference is, you're not interested in science when it conflicts with your preferred iron age myth, based on older Mesopotamian myths, because they comfort you.

Your man made book doesn't free you from your feeble human brain. I have evidence, you don't.
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Why can't evolution explain the physical and creationism explain the spiritual? Everyone happy tounge all this extremism gets people no where but arguments, anger, and confusion.. like the guy above said as long as we're good people and love everyone we should be alright if there really is life after death
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That's a vey nice thought, but, as Darwin said, his whole purpose for imagining his theory in the first place was to disprove God.
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Why can't evolution explain the physical and creationism explain the spiritual? Everyone happy tounge all this extremism gets people no where but arguments, anger, and confusion.. like the guy above said as long as we're good people and love everyone we should be alright if there really is life after death
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That's a vey nice thought, but, as Darwin said, his whole purpose for imagining his theory in the first place was to disprove God.
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Show me where Darwin said that. That's a straight up lie.
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They don't. You just think they do.
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Sorry, but hearing you say 'nuh-uh' isn't going to make me forget that these fossils exist and that we can date them with various methods. They objectively do get more human-like over time, and humans do not predate them. It's a fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79198827


Your dating methods have proven faulty time and time again. Seems like every time I crack open a new book they've had to revise the timeline, but you just go ahead and take comfort in your feeble ability to accurately describe the distant past. It's not my time you're wasting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79283235


Maybe stop cracking open Creationist books. The dates are pretty consistent. I'll continue to rely on scientific models, as will you, regardless of how feeble our abilities may be. Difference is, you're not interested in science when it conflicts with your preferred iron age myth, based on older Mesopotamian myths, because they comfort you.

Your man made book doesn't free you from your feeble human brain. I have evidence, you don't.
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Define "pretty consistent"? If it means shifting back and forth by millions of years, then you're probably right. The infantile insult wasn't needed, though. Dave that for the other kids in your class.
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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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You can’t extrapolate a tiny sample to the whole. Not to mention you evolutionists cant explain the blood types in relation to “evolution”.=

Btw, us Creationists make up the majority of MENSA members.
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mensa is big dick right there
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Why can't evolution explain the physical and creationism explain the spiritual? Everyone happy tounge all this extremism gets people no where but arguments, anger, and confusion.. like the guy above said as long as we're good people and love everyone we should be alright if there really is life after death
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That's a vey nice thought, but, as Darwin said, his whole purpose for imagining his theory in the first place was to disprove God.
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Show me where Darwin said that. That's a straight up lie.
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Oh boy.... I did it now... I forgot that you guys will fight the validity of his satanic rantings to the bitter end and even then you won't accept it. Just forget about it. I'm not wasting the time. Pretend I didn't say anything.
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The "brilliant" idiots who continue to reject God will soon be in very hot water.
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:not god:
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If only God were as simple as a meme created by a simpleton. Then everyone would be able to comprehend Him.
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You create memes?

Tell me where your god came from. How did he come to exist?
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The "brilliant" idiots who continue to reject God will soon be in very hot water.
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:not god:
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If only God were as simple as a meme created by a simpleton. Then everyone would be able to comprehend Him.
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You create memes?

Tell me where your god came from. How did he come to exist?
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I'm not arguing with infinitesimal minds today. Just having conversations with the sentient. Have a nice day.
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Sorry, but hearing you say 'nuh-uh' isn't going to make me forget that these fossils exist and that we can date them with various methods. They objectively do get more human-like over time, and humans do not predate them. It's a fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79198827


Your dating methods have proven faulty time and time again. Seems like every time I crack open a new book they've had to revise the timeline, but you just go ahead and take comfort in your feeble ability to accurately describe the distant past. It's not my time you're wasting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79283235


Maybe stop cracking open Creationist books. The dates are pretty consistent. I'll continue to rely on scientific models, as will you, regardless of how feeble our abilities may be. Difference is, you're not interested in science when it conflicts with your preferred iron age myth, based on older Mesopotamian myths, because they comfort you.

Your man made book doesn't free you from your feeble human brain. I have evidence, you don't.
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Define "pretty consistent"? If it means shifting back and forth by millions of years, then you're probably right. The infantile insult wasn't needed, though. Dave that for the other kids in your class.
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Not an insult. Just an observation. You started talking about my feeble human mind and its inability to grasp the truth, as a way to belittle science, when you yourself are just a human with a book, and your personal interpretation of an ancient man made book. And you think this somehow makes your position more reliable than mine?

The hominin fossil dates don't shift around that much. If you're talking about the age of the earth, it's progressively been pushed back as we find older things, which is good. But it's been about the same for decades.
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Why can't evolution explain the physical and creationism explain the spiritual? Everyone happy tounge all this extremism gets people no where but arguments, anger, and confusion.. like the guy above said as long as we're good people and love everyone we should be alright if there really is life after death
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75487912


That's a vey nice thought, but, as Darwin said, his whole purpose for imagining his theory in the first place was to disprove God.
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Show me where Darwin said that. That's a straight up lie.
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Oh boy.... I did it now... I forgot that you guys will fight the validity of his satanic rantings to the bitter end and even then you won't accept it. Just forget about it. I'm not wasting the time. Pretend I didn't say anything.
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I think you pretend enough for the both of us. You can't show me where he said that, because he never did.
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Your dating methods have proven faulty time and time again. Seems like every time I crack open a new book they've had to revise the timeline, but you just go ahead and take comfort in your feeble ability to accurately describe the distant past. It's not my time you're wasting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79283235


Maybe stop cracking open Creationist books. The dates are pretty consistent. I'll continue to rely on scientific models, as will you, regardless of how feeble our abilities may be. Difference is, you're not interested in science when it conflicts with your preferred iron age myth, based on older Mesopotamian myths, because they comfort you.

Your man made book doesn't free you from your feeble human brain. I have evidence, you don't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79198827


Define "pretty consistent"? If it means shifting back and forth by millions of years, then you're probably right. The infantile insult wasn't needed, though. Dave that for the other kids in your class.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79283235


Not an insult. Just an observation. You started talking about my feeble human mind and its inability to grasp the truth, as a way to belittle science, when you yourself are just a human with a book, and your personal interpretation of an ancient man made book. And you think this somehow makes your position more reliable than mine?

The hominin fossil dates don't shift around that much. If you're talking about the age of the earth, it's progressively been pushed back as we find older things, which is good. But it's been about the same for decades.
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Again, man didn't create God. God created men. That's where you keep getting hung up. I'll trust your mind to accurately describe the past when you manage to create your fist solar system. Until then, you're just a monkey pushing dirt around with a stick. Don't feel bad, though. I'm right there with you as far as intelligence goes.
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:not god:
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If only God were as simple as a meme created by a simpleton. Then everyone would be able to comprehend Him.
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You create memes?

Tell me where your god came from. How did he come to exist?
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I'm not arguing with infinitesimal minds today. Just having conversations with the sentient. Have a nice day.
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You argue with an infinitesimal mind every day... that’s just the way god made you
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That's a vey nice thought, but, as Darwin said, his whole purpose for imagining his theory in the first place was to disprove God.
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Show me where Darwin said that. That's a straight up lie.
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Oh boy.... I did it now... I forgot that you guys will fight the validity of his satanic rantings to the bitter end and even then you won't accept it. Just forget about it. I'm not wasting the time. Pretend I didn't say anything.
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I think you pretend enough for the both of us. You can't show me where he said that, because he never did.
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If only God were as simple as a meme created by a simpleton. Then everyone would be able to comprehend Him.
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You create memes?

Tell me where your god came from. How did he come to exist?
 Quoting: The Tard Wrangler


I'm not arguing with infinitesimal minds today. Just having conversations with the sentient. Have a nice day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79283235


You argue with an infinitesimal mind every day... that’s just the way god made you
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You souls put that on a meme. I'm sure that's within your skill set.
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Maybe stop cracking open Creationist books. The dates are pretty consistent. I'll continue to rely on scientific models, as will you, regardless of how feeble our abilities may be. Difference is, you're not interested in science when it conflicts with your preferred iron age myth, based on older Mesopotamian myths, because they comfort you.

Your man made book doesn't free you from your feeble human brain. I have evidence, you don't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79198827


Define "pretty consistent"? If it means shifting back and forth by millions of years, then you're probably right. The infantile insult wasn't needed, though. Dave that for the other kids in your class.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79283235


Not an insult. Just an observation. You started talking about my feeble human mind and its inability to grasp the truth, as a way to belittle science, when you yourself are just a human with a book, and your personal interpretation of an ancient man made book. And you think this somehow makes your position more reliable than mine?

The hominin fossil dates don't shift around that much. If you're talking about the age of the earth, it's progressively been pushed back as we find older things, which is good. But it's been about the same for decades.
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Again, man didn't create God. God created men. That's where you keep getting hung up. I'll trust your mind to accurately describe the past when you manage to create your fist solar system. Until then, you're just a monkey pushing dirt around with a stick. Don't feel bad, though. I'm right there with you as far as intelligence goes.
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What? You can't create a solar system either. What has that got to do with anything? Your argument has essentially degenerated into 'fuck science.'

If you agree we're both monkeys and we don't have access to absolute truth, then shouldn't we consider the best explanation to be the one with the most evidence? Are you saying we're monkeys so we should abandon the entire concept of logic, and reason, stop relying on evidence in court etc? You're making no sense. Our technology is proof that we can acquire knowledge about how the universe behaves. Science works, and as of now it supports evolution.

I'm not interested in your arrogant presuppositions. I question everything.
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Define "pretty consistent"? If it means shifting back and forth by millions of years, then you're probably right. The infantile insult wasn't needed, though. Dave that for the other kids in your class.
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Not an insult. Just an observation. You started talking about my feeble human mind and its inability to grasp the truth, as a way to belittle science, when you yourself are just a human with a book, and your personal interpretation of an ancient man made book. And you think this somehow makes your position more reliable than mine?

The hominin fossil dates don't shift around that much. If you're talking about the age of the earth, it's progressively been pushed back as we find older things, which is good. But it's been about the same for decades.
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Again, man didn't create God. God created men. That's where you keep getting hung up. I'll trust your mind to accurately describe the past when you manage to create your fist solar system. Until then, you're just a monkey pushing dirt around with a stick. Don't feel bad, though. I'm right there with you as far as intelligence goes.
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What? You can't create a solar system either. What has that got to do with anything? Your argument has essentially degenerated into 'fuck science.'

If you agree we're both monkeys and we don't have access to absolute truth, then shouldn't we consider the best explanation to be the one with the most evidence? Are you saying we're monkeys so we should abandon the entire concept of logic, and reason, stop relying on evidence in court etc? You're making no sense. Our technology is proof that we can acquire knowledge about how the universe behaves. Science works, and as of now it supports evolution.

I'm not interested in your arrogant presuppositions. I question everything.
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Of course i can't create a solar system! I never said I could! God did, though. He didn't need your theories to get the job done, either. If you get this confused during a simple conversation, why would you ever expect me to trust you over God when it comes to evolution?
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And yet you still have very good records of the evolution of various specific animal lines over time and the sudden (geologically speaking) appearance of broader animal groups over the past 400 million years.

The mathematicians spend the whole time discussing Darwin who didn't even have a sliver of the technical knowledge we have today.

Talk to any active academic paleontologist and they'll discuss their latest paper and the mountain of scientific data that went into it. No modern paleontologist sits around discussing Darwin.

Fundamentalists ALWAYS refer to Darwin because they can't deal with the millions of scientific papers written since and the hundreds written every year on extremely specific topics. They have to ignore the extremely detailed modern stratigraphies with chrono-resolutions of 500,000 years or better of certain volcanic ash layers.

They illogically claim that there is no order to the Geologic Column (because everything lived at the same time) despite the fact that when you drill for oil the drill cores have the layers and index fossils in the exact same order as the establish Geologic Column and you can use those sequences like tree rings to pinpoint where you are in the Geologic Column and predict where oil producing layers should be based on the lithography (shale, clay, sand, limestone). You can visit any road-cut or any place where layers are exposed and figure out where you are in the Geologic Column. Fossil collectors and paleo people have been exploring for 150 years and no body has yet to find trilobites in Cretaceous deposits or modern mammals in Paleozoic deposits. I have shelves and shelves of self-discovered fossils and not one has been pulled from the wrong age deposits. Directly observable but not if you have your eyes closed.

I have maybe 500+ papers just covering my local geology and paleontology.

I don't even have to detail the evolution of various fossils lineages the records are there in the geologic and paleontological literature.

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It was always just a theory.
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Wow, 4 Creationists having a circle jerk while 99% of scientists continue to accept the validity of evolution.

Evolution is directly observable. You're not going to make it disappear by playing with math.
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hesright

Evolutionary missing link and missing Tower of Babel civilization needs to be reckoned with.

The missing part is the clue.

Imagine for a minute that Earth underwent a cycle of great cataclysms in the remote past.

A cycle that included 10.0 earthquakes, cat 6 hurricanes, mt toba-like eruptions around the pacific rim and mega-high rolling tsunami's.

The thing that so easily gets dismissed and overlooked are Earth's archaic megalithic monuments - yet they stand before everyone's eyes.
50 to 70 ton granite blocks raised 200 feet above the ground in the great pyramid and 8,000 temples in India where likewise temple apex of 80 ton granite is lifted 216 feet. Incredible achievements for today, yet assigned to stone hammer and bronze chisel cultures???

When were these built? - no one knows for sure.

Cycles of destruction could reach back 100,000 years. We can trace the evolutionary human tree back 240,000 years. It would seem plausible that an advanced race of humans - the 'tower of babel civilization' referred to in Genesis could be older that 240,000 years.

Then came the cataclysms that reshaped Earth...LITERALLY.
Where do you imagine today's finest cranes and cities would be 500,00 years from now?

Missing is the answer. Washed into the ocean, crushed by ice sheets, eaten by Mother Earth and Father sun's time. How would you leave a message for a future civilization?

You'd build megalithic monuments from limestone and granite that would survive the cycles of destruction as ours have.

MISSING .. do you even?
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Not an insult. Just an observation. You started talking about my feeble human mind and its inability to grasp the truth, as a way to belittle science, when you yourself are just a human with a book, and your personal interpretation of an ancient man made book. And you think this somehow makes your position more reliable than mine?

The hominin fossil dates don't shift around that much. If you're talking about the age of the earth, it's progressively been pushed back as we find older things, which is good. But it's been about the same for decades.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79198827


Again, man didn't create God. God created men. That's where you keep getting hung up. I'll trust your mind to accurately describe the past when you manage to create your fist solar system. Until then, you're just a monkey pushing dirt around with a stick. Don't feel bad, though. I'm right there with you as far as intelligence goes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79283235


What? You can't create a solar system either. What has that got to do with anything? Your argument has essentially degenerated into 'fuck science.'

If you agree we're both monkeys and we don't have access to absolute truth, then shouldn't we consider the best explanation to be the one with the most evidence? Are you saying we're monkeys so we should abandon the entire concept of logic, and reason, stop relying on evidence in court etc? You're making no sense. Our technology is proof that we can acquire knowledge about how the universe behaves. Science works, and as of now it supports evolution.

I'm not interested in your arrogant presuppositions. I question everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79198827


Of course i can't create a solar system! I never said I could! God did, though. He didn't need your theories to get the job done, either. If you get this confused during a simple conversation, why would you ever expect me to trust you over God when it comes to evolution?
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I never said I could either. You don't know what God said. You know what a book says. I'm not asking you to trust me over God, I'm asking you to look at the evidence instead of presupposing your specific literalist interpretation of a book. Whether or not god exists, the evidence supports evolution.





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