Leonardo Davinci BACK in the news--It's THE MOON--and 2020 Year of WRATH (post #3)

THIS YEAR'S "DAVINCI GLOW" ON THE MOON *8-22 thru 8-24-2020
see the development of one of this country's most HISTORIC TWIN HURRICANES. Given I was able to locate "2020" in
Roman Numerals in the Last Supper Painting and this August
date is the ONLY historic reference to any month/day of the
year...Can we not investigate this "golden moon" for 2020
as AN OMEN?

Thread: 2 Hurricanes coming to the Gulf of Mexico

video report on this:


[link to youtu.be (secure)]

More on the 2 hurricanes setting up for the
Gulf in the next 72 hours...What could go wrong?


O's. C.

Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 08/27/2020 05:40 AM

The dual hurricanes arent even going to be hurricanes. The area in between the storms will be hit harder than the center of each storm

Sorry, I misread.

I thought you were saying the phenomenon lasts three minutes.

I see you were referring to the video... lol.

Can't wait to check it out.

Davinci with a side order of dual hurricanes ... it's vintage GLP!

Hope you and your's are well OC. All's well with me here in Canuckistan.

It's official ... Frankie MacDonald says it's on like donkey kong

Last Edited by Big Duke6 on 08/22/2020 03:46 PM

Excellent thread!

Ditto. This has been a bright spot in an otherwise regularly doom filled GLP (which I totally effing love, so back off).

Such a great thread. So many questions.

1. Half the people here never heard of Moon Glow?

2. The Last Supper & the 9 Circles of hell. What is it all about? Why is it referenced in movies? Are they trying to tell people things with these movies? (I haven't been to a movie house for many years).

3. Are the 12 disciples supposed to be 12 religions of the world and is there really a hell-is hell the here & now? If so, are we in the 9th circle?

4. Why are there so many versions of The Last Supper & who's was first?

Ive been trying to understand what this is about. Is that all it is? Wtf i see that all the time, in a highly populated area.

People need to get off netflix

Your threads always interesting.

One thing. You mention "Marco/Laura" when it is
numerically and time of inception Laura/Marco.

Even from Earth in the US looking at them
Laura would be to the left but we always
talk about them from an above upside down
view.

~BP

All very good questions--and things that only "life experience"
will teach you (in other words you won't get your answers
on an internet forum.)

Happy Journey!

O's. C.

Thanks for the good wishes.


O's. C.

I had time to chew on your question--didn't mean to be dismissive but a couple of your questions are actually very
profound.

Question 1: Half the people here never heard of Moon Glow?


Lots of people have head about "moon glow" as a general special golden color of the moon, of course. Just seeing
the moon in this beautiful light will stick with you even
if you don't know the mechanism which causes that "glow."

Personally, I've known about the glow...but I did NOT know
that the discovery of the mechanism which causes that
special golden light was analyzed by Leonardo Davinci! Love
to find out new things he was studying. That's why I
decided to post the thread. The video pretty much tells the
story so I won't post a report on it here. I found it on
the "Nemesis Maturity" Youtube channel--one I especially like.

Question 2:
2. The Last Supper & the 9 Circles of hell. What is it all about? Why is it referenced in movies? Are they trying to tell people things with these movies? (I haven't been to a movie house for many years).

I will pause on that question as it's a big one--I'll
give you my take on that in a following post below this.

Question 3:
3. Are the 12 disciples supposed to be 12 religions of the world and is there really a hell-is hell the here & now? If so, are we in the 9th circle?

I'll pause on this question as well since I'll include
my "take" with your 2nd question next.

Question 4:
4. Why are there so many versions of The Last Supper & who's was first?

My "take" on this question would have to do with the
early Church's "marketing strategy" for spreading the religion
to begin with (hope that doesn't sound cold...I don't mean
it that way.)

You would need to study "archetypes" (popularized by the
genius of Carl Jung is a good place to start.) In terms of
Jung's archetypes the betrayal of Judas makes his name
used synonymously with betrayal or treason.


The moment when--as the Bible account goes--Jesus reveals
to his disciples at the last supper (before he is arrested
and crucified) his knowledge that one of his beloved ones
would betray him (Judas) is an "ah-ha moment" in Christianity.

Part of the entire biblical account of Jesus pretty much pivots around this ONE REVELATION in his life's story which
leads to tragedy if you think about it carefully.



It is because this moment is seen as so pivotal that the
early Church would commission many of its artists to paint
the "official scene" of the Last Supper so that it is
memorialized as a special tragedy they understood it to be
(betrayal in the "inner circle of trust" which every human
on the planet in a major or minor way will experience themselves)...and for what would follow in the life story
of Jesus after that.

The "moment" is so important that news items are still being
written about discoveries about it today 1,000s of years
later. One of the strangest in my opinion...which you may
wish to check out...is the story of there finding a written
"Gospel of Judas" in a breaking 2006 article in the New York
Times. Here is a link:
[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

As far as how many versions of the Last Supper--copied from
the Davinci "The Last Supper Mural/painting" Pinterest
counts 230. There are probably more than that since there
are also tapestries and weavings and sculptures not in
painting forms not mention in articles like this one:
[link to www.pinterest.com (secure)]

As far as the VERY FIRST painting of the betrayal of
Christ I should imagine that someone who lived during the
crucifixion and the early followers of Christianity would
have certainly drawn pictures of the events. To put a date
on the very FIRST image would be impossible in my opinion.
You can google "ancient paintings discovered of the life of Jesus" might bring up some reports. That would take some
digging though!

Hope that helps at least in part to answer your question #4.
Actually, you can take these questions and begin a really
wonderful "trip down the rabbit hole" that can last years
if you have the interest. (It has for me!) It all starts
with a question, you know. I'll get back to questions
2 and 3 shortly.



Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 08/23/2020 04:57 AM

THAT IS HELARIOUS! AHHHHHHH......

mars enter aries august,16,2020

sixain 52 nostradamus:
La grand'Cité qui n'a pain à demy
Encor un coup la sainct Barthelemy
Engravera au profond de son ame :
Nisme, Rochelle, Geneve & Montpellier,
Castres Lyon, Mars entrant au Bélier, (mars enter aries)
S'entrebatteront : le tout pour une Dame

a remake/again? of the massacre st barthelemy (24 august 1572)

I'm sorry I don't speak French. Did a search on the info
however. Not sure how this ties into the moon-glow or the
Bottecelli painting. The date is August 14th however...and
looks to be a nasty anniversary date for the Gulf Coast U.S.
with 2 hurricanes in-bound.

[link to www.thoughtco.com (secure)]
More info about the killing of 10,000 protestants (Hugonauts)
in France in the mid 1500's.

Davinci was born in the 1450's...lived to 1519.


O's. C.

A-holes & D-bags

Truly an elegant response...but surely matches the discription
of the people in some of the 9 circles of Dante's Hell! lol!


O's. C.

:Inferno2:
Yes...There they are...A-holes and D-bags.

Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 08/23/2020 09:25 AM

I had delayed answering GLP's "Half Past Midnight's" two remaining
questions on his/her list because any answer for those 2
would involve a pretty philosophical "take" for anyone trying
to get into them. As well as a good reference to check out
on Dante's Divine Comedy and Bottecelli's symbol "Inferno."

Here is Half Past Midnight's original post (above):



I have answered questions 1 and 4 as best I could...so for 2 & 3, I
will try to at least give you some references to check out
on the famous Bottecelli painting for INFERNO as you see it
here:



Here are the 2 overlays I made for the thread showing
how I believe the symbol ("The Nine Circles of Hell") fit
in Davinci's "empty space" for the Last Supper:


(Small version of Bottecelli's symbol fits exactly
the contours of the empty space suggested in Dan Brown's
"The Davinci Code.") and the bigger one I find even
more interesting:

:DavinciFINGERpoi:
ENLARGEMENT AND "A POINTING FINGER"
By enlarging the original to meet "the pointing finger"
of a disciple to the left shoulder of Jesus we can see
that it makes sense WHY the gesture of point at "something
that isn't there" (without an overlay) tells us the old
adage "a picture is worth 1,000 words." Is he pointing at
"Circle #2" in this overlay? And what is Circle #2? (You
will need to click on the link right below to get the Wiki
description for the Second Circle. UDECIDE which of the
9 Circles of Hell the disciple is pointing us to!

But first check out the whole outline of the Nine Circles
of Hell so that it is understood what you are looking at:
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Reading the WIKI outline with The POINTING FINGER IN MIND
...we may be able to answer this question:
Are they trying to tell people things with these movies? (I haven't been to a movie house for many years).

I would assume since the disciple is pointing to the 2nd circle
(but maybe also the #5th Circle)...there is some suggestion by this disciple's gesture that Davinci believed most
people in our current reality are dealing with appetites
that include betrayal (The Judas), lust and non-repentance.
(But that's just my "take." Let me know if you agree.) Of
course, if it is a PRANK Davinci may be pointing to what he
thought Bottecelli was having to work on himself. That's a
whole other idea, though. If it is the 5th circle...it may
mean he believes we are dealing mainly with WRATH. It's all
very subjective, of course.

You might be able to ANSWER YOUR OWN QUESTION "Half Past Midnight," with just the wikipedia outline and the pictures
I have provided in this post...but I'll go into this further
in a post below since this is a pretty involved question to
answer (and I am NOT an authority on Dante by any stretch.)

Of course, Dan Brown and producer Ron Howard didn't really
expect the average movie-goer who chooses to look deeper
into "The Davinci Code" and "Inferno" movies for a less
Hollywood answer to deeper questions...but THEY DID PROVIDE
THE TWO CLUES to get there, didn't they. One has to wonder
what they had in mind in doing this, too, since it was never
really addressed in either of the movies.


O's. C.

Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 08/23/2020 10:21 AM

1.
I understood your first reply as "Thank you for the inters, I don't know how much you actually know and most answers are readily available so I won't waste too much time writing something that might not get read".
I thought your reply was nice while concise.
There was an old Benny Goodman tune named Moon Glow.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



Thanks for the "Nemesis Maturity" Youtube channel, I will check it out.

4.
When I was in southern Arizona at an old mission Tumacacori,
[link to www.nps.gov (secure)]
the docent there said the missions weren't churches in the sense that people think of them, they were actually MISSIONS, as the priests were on a MISSION to convert people.
Your marketing take seems to fit right in with that.

Thanks for taking the time to address my questions & for all the info & the links, they will keep me busy for sure.

Google translation:

sixain 52 nostradamus:
The Grand'Cité which has half-bread
Once again the holy Barthelemy
Engrave in the depths of his soul:
Nisme, Rochelle, Geneva & Montpellier,
Castres Lyon, Mars entering Aries, (mars enter aries)
Will fight: all for a Lady




The Oracle's Cookie, I am still researching the other stuff. I did not miss your other post.

Thanks for your reply!

I always appreciate well thought-out questions when I host
a thread. I know many folks just don't have the time to
read long threads (like this one) and that you would read
through it and ALSO consider these really great questions is
validating to the work I put into researching.

I have been actually really disappointed that there hasn't
been a "push-back" to the Dan Brown idea of "Mary's womb"
for the empty-space in the Last Supper Painting/Mural since
The Davinci Code has been such a HUGE topic. Since it first
came out it has generated millions in revenue. I think the
last figure I saw (for Brown) was over $250 million. While Tom Hanks
originally contracted to receive $7 million for the movie.
...and STILL I have as yet to see one theory to explain
what might be the REAL explanation for the empty space to
follow that. The Sondro Bottecelli "Map of Hell" is as good
as any theory so far. Maybe they'll make a movie from THAT
idea one day! lol!

Thanks again--and I learned something myself from your
excellent questions. And love the music video! Ah....those
guys really KNEW music!


The Oracle's Cookie

According to this article, a few different things can happen.
Here's what happens when two hurricanes collide.
[link to www.businessinsider.com (secure)]

It should be interesting to watch the progress of these
2 storms. I have been watching the weather channel today
and they are using the word "unprecedented" quite a bit.

Seems like 2020 is the YEAR for "unprecedented" and the
ride isn't over yet. (Sortof like the ride below for many
of us.) Definitely prayers UP for the folks along the
Gulf Coast are needed.

So..."The Lady" being the Church's Mary? Certainly, the
fire at Notre Dam gives one the impression that "the Lady"
is being targeted. Not to mention the U.S. "Lady Liberty."


O's. C.

Or the Queen of England. But the whole quatrain seems to be about France.
The Holy Barthelemey could be the priest Barthélemy Amilhac

[link to www.sjsu.edu (secure)]

Or it could be the island Saint Barthélemy.

The half bread, could be a reference to French bread, how bakeries could only lable their bread FRENCH if it abided by the law of being made AT the bakeries & only contain the 4 ingredients(flour, water, salt & sugar I think) & some other rules.
Or maybe he meant it as half breed.

That article about the priest might have clues.

But if it IS Mary/the church that all these wars are the reason people are fighting, the vatican needs to open up all of this stuff and let all the Oracles & Davincis have at it.

War will never end until we all know the truth about our beginnings.

ohhh, am ing to come back to in the morning!

And yes O's C....it is definitely a relief to see something from you, hearkens back to the old days of GLP.

Interesting comment, indeed!

You said:
But if it IS Mary/the church that all these wars are the reason people are fighting, the vatican needs to open up all of this stuff and let all the Oracles & Davincis have at it.

War will never end until we all know the truth about our beginnings.


One of the Nine Circles of Hell is, of course, WRATH.
From the tiniest problem with triggered anger...to the
gigantic mountings of war we've seen in 2 world wars...THAT
level was probably one of the big concerns for Davinci and
his friend who originally painted "The Map of Hell,"
Sondro Bottecelli. I looked carefully at the blow-up of
the overlay I made--and the FINGER POINTING UP could have
been the 5th level (I originally thought it was #2--LUST)
--though either one has caused unimaginable chaos on this
planet.

:FingerLastSupper:

Edited: Added this smilie image to show where the "pointing
finger" appears in Davinci's The Last Supper painting since
some folks have never noticed it being there. Davinci has
something important in mind with an upward-pointing finger
in close range to Jesus...but without an OVERLAY IMAGE to
know what that might be we are lost. The Bottecelli painting
of INFERNO really makes a statement (if, indeed, that is
what Davinci intended for us to be using as the overlay.)

:DavinciFINGERpoi:
Red Square shows the "pointing-up finger" of one
of the 12 disciples in the Last Supper Painting/Mural.
Without an overlay to understand WHY Leonardo Davinci
would have placed this "random gesture" we wouldn't know
what its purpose for a message might be. If the "Map of Hell"
by Bottecelli is, in fact, the actual target symbol Davinci
had in mind--the pointing finger makes logical sense.

Next question would be...(if this were verified by the Church)...is THIS LEVEL OF "HELL" aimed at the individual,
a particular famous person (maybe even Davinci or Bottecelli
personally?), maybe Davinci's criticism of how the Church
was conducting its own politics in 1490's...or at the general situation of the world? UDECIDE!

If the "pointing finger" was a circle which included the
actions of the Church in the late 1400's...this might be
another possible candidate for Davinci's motive to include
Bottecelli's symbol in The Last Supper painting/mural. Find
out more here:
[link to www.history.com (secure)]


O's. C.

Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 08/24/2020 11:48 AM

Thanks for stopping in, Zenobia. Yeah...miss those
old "mega-threads" we used to see so often. These take a
little concentration to wade through, but some are real
gems. One of my favorite "mega-thread authors" on GLP has
been Base12 who (like me) has slowed down in posting, but
still gives us some wonderful things to think about.

This one is one of my favorites from years past and
fits in pretty well with the "Nine Circles of Hell" in
Davinci's paintings. Certainly, messing with God's creation
--DNA/RNA manipulations which has given us the gift of a
global pandemic because the WARNING WAS NOT TAKEN by so
many--is a good candidate for that!

If you have missed Base12's threads--and his AMAZING use
of graphics in his threads (which has inspired my own...)
don't go any further than this link tonight:

Thread: 666, Carbon Atoms, Fingerprints and the Mark of the Beast

:AdropinPandora:

It's interesting that in considering this possible "message
from Davinci" in a famous painting, we can dive into a
discussion of EXAMPLES OF THE CIRCLES OF HELL we are now
seeing in this unprecedented year 2020. Certainly, people
we are hearing about in the news who are dealing with
multiple family members losing their lives to COVID-19--which
even President Trump has called "The China Virus" in today's
presser (and earlier remarks where he says "We were attacked" by a bioweapon) qualifies as an EXPERIENCE with
one or more of the 9 circles of Hell IMHO. In the same week
Base12 hosted his "mark of the Beast" thread *(link above)
...I also hosted my own thread dealing with what I believed
was a message from Ridley Scott in the movie "Alien Covenant." This was my thread that week:
Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video

Just one discussion of "The Map of Hell" painting that is
the "tip of the iceburg!"

Getting BACK TO DAVINCI and the "Mark of the Beast" idea
(where God's Covenant is BROKEN when humanity alters and
makes a Frankenstine monster from DNA/RNA)...he even gives
us the ULTIMATE symbolic message about a world pandemic
from CHINA as a result of tampering with DNA/RNA (which is
the meaning of "The Tree of Life" in Genesis!) Check out
this sepia drawing from Davinci's Journal. If you cannot
SEE the symbolism for 2020 in this representation, then you
have got some work to do in grasping symbology--check this out:


Davinci's sepia ink drawing from the 1500's
showing a "Beast" at the helm of a China "Junk boat"
shooting a WEAPONIZED virus THROUGH THE TREE OF LIFE
and heading where?...Right at the EAGLE and the entire
planet. This is one of the most chilling and PROPHETIC
of the Davinci images (besides the "empty space" clue
about The Map of Hell painting) ever shown.

We're SO TOAST....


O's. C.



Thanks for the post Zenobia!


O's Cookie

Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 08/24/2020 02:47 AM