The Second American Civil War and Christianity

Amen to that.

The Army of Locusts
(Amos 7:1-9)
1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
Joel 2:1-11

YHWH EL SHADAI Himself shall act like a Field Commander in the great and terrible day of the LORD when he unleashes His wrath in terrible fury.

Not very pacifist, is it?

9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.
Joel 3:9-16

Christians are the seed of Abraham according to the Galatians and children of GOD as we followed the Mashiach (Jesus Christ the Messiah).

That is why this passage from Joel was so cryptic before Jesus.

There is nothing about pacifism here in this passage.

Not even weak men get a pass. All participate in war.

This is completely at odds with pacificism. No one sits out. No one is a bystander. All are some kind of soldier.

10 And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then? 11 He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise. 12 Then came also publicans to be baptized, and said unto him, Master, what shall we do? 13 And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed you. 14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.
15 And as the people were in expectation, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ, or not; 16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: 17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.
Luke 3:10-17

Pacifists try to twist this passage. What does it mean to do violence to no man as soldiers do violence to their enemies?

It has to do with extortion and war booty as soldiers were allowed to do so when their commander allowed it to supplement their pay. John the Baptist says no, you can't.

Confessing Christ
(Luke 12:8-12)
32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
The Sword of the Gospel
(Luke 12:49-53)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Take up Your Cross
(Matthew 16:24-28; Mark 8:34-38; Luke 9:23-27)
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
Matthew 10:32-39

Jesus outright tells the Christians that just by believing is our Lord and Savior, some will hate us. They will be our enemies, even our own family members.

If you lose your life because of your Christianity, you gain eternal life and reward.

Comfort in Persecution
(2 Timothy 1:6-12)
16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?
Fearing God Alone
(Luke 12:4-7)
26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.
30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
Confessing Christ
(Luke 12:8-12)
32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 10:16-32

Being persecuted is an expected aspect of being a Christian.

Christians are supposed to be armed. If so,his goods are in peace.

21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: 22 But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils. 23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.
Luke 11:21-23

At the Great Commission, Jesus sends them out as innocents and poorly supplied so they are entirely reliant upon the ELOHIM.

Then he knows they are coming to take him, and gives them advice. Beings armed si so vital that it would be better tobe naked and armed then garbed and defenseless!

35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. 36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it , and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. 38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
Luke 22:35-38

furthermore western Europeans are the descendants of the ten lost tribes of Israel. Its time we had a country made in our image, once and for all. Forget white supremacy I want Christian supremacy.

The disciples are NOT pacifists at all. Simon Peter was armed.

7 Then asked he them again, Whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth. 8 Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he: if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way: 9 That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none. 10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus. 11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?
John 18:7-11

If Jesus had issues with disciples being armed, there is no way Simon Peter would have had a sword.

However, the good book says:

"And suddenly, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword, struck the servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear. Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.” (Matthew 26:51-52)


What about that context hmmmm?


Bottom line – as a good solder of Jesus Christ, you simply have to learn when to verbally engage, when to physically engage, or when to turn the other cheek and let the matter go.

If you do not learn how to operate and navigate in these three specific realms with the Lord, you could end up getting yourself seriously injured, if not possibly killed by taking the wrong strategy at the wrong time.

Most of the time your good common sense will tell you which is the right strategy to take.

The Holy Spirit will also be right there with you, and He will be giving you His guidance and wisdom on how to handle these types of situations.

LUKE 22:36 KJV 1611; IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SWORD, SELL SOME OF YOUR CLOTHES AND BUY ONE.

Being armed was integral to being a husband. One is supposed to have a weapon for home defense! Part of being a responsible loving husband is being BRAVE and being an EXPERT in war.

Solomon's Wedding Day
6 Who is this that cometh out of the wilderness like pillars of smoke, perfumed with myrrh and frankincense, with all powders of the merchant?
7 Behold his bed, which is Solomon's; threescore valiant men are about it, of the valiant of Israel.
8 They all hold swords, being expert in war: every man hath his sword upon his thigh because of fear in the night.
9 King Solomon made himself a chariot of the wood of Lebanon.
10 He made the pillars thereof of silver, the bottom thereof of gold, the covering of it of purple, the midst thereof being paved with love, for the daughters of Jerusalem.
11 Go forth, O ye daughters of Zion, and behold king Solomon with the crown wherewith his mother crowned him in the day of his espousals, and in the day of the gladness of his heart.

He wanted to set the example of the rock that started some church buildings listen better and not cut off the policemans ear of the day. They too can receive salvation. That's the way I always took it in past.

You're being too broad. Jesus is taken and dies but ONCE, and Jesus is preserving the disciples from being perishing. The disciples have work yet to do.

They still end up perishing as Simon Peter dies crucified upside down.

You're cherrypicking as Jesus himself says persecution of Christians is expected and some will lse their lives for it.

Look at all the Bible, not just the parts you are attracted to.

Israel without Weapons
19 Now there was no smith found throughout all the land of Israel: for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make them swords or spears: 20 But all the Israelites went down to the Philistines, to sharpen every man his share, and his coulter, and his axe, and his mattock. 21 Yet they had a file for the mattocks, and for the coulters, and for the forks, and for the axes, and to sharpen the goads. 22 So it came to pass in the day of battle, that there was neither sword nor spear found in the hand of any of the people that were with Saul and Jonathan: but with Saul and with Jonathan his son was there found. 23 And the garrison of the Philistines went out to the passage of Michmash.
1 Samuel 13:19-23

Even IF you haveno weapons, then IMPROVISE with even garden tools!

Matthew 5:10

Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.





You are promoting that people murder for their nation under the guise of protecting God's law as if God is still with this country.

Cherrypicking Ephesians is what Lucifer does with Jesusin the desert. All that passage states is who is the real genuine enemy who are the fallen angels led by Lucifer.

John the Baptist said, “Do harm to no man.”

He was speaking to soldiers.

Case closed.

2 If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.
3 If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. 4 If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; he shall restore double.
Exodus 22:2-3

The Bible is fine with killing thieves and shedding blood. That is NOT Pacificism.

And in America, every man is a potential solder as militia. Thatis the whole point of the Second Amendment.

Absolutely wrong. War is not murder.

That's a verse about someone breaking INTO YOUR HOME

This does not apply to domestic terrorism.


Your faith is based on national PRIDE and hence false.

If America fell tomorrow you would blame God for it and submit yourself to becoming another anarchist or antichrist.

God always tells people when and who to war, every time. As He did from the beginning with Moses and Joshua.

So unless you claim that God told you to wage war, which would be highly suspect, then you have no Biblical ground to declare your own personal crusade.

By definition, antichrists are those who oppose Jesus Christ and they have declkared themselves our enemies.