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Something Bizarre With Rittenhouse/Rosenbaum Shooting

 
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All that matters for Kyle is that this POS was obviously not shot with a rifle. POS's wounds are typical for 9mm and down. Think about the shooting videos you've seen where someone is taken out with a pistol. They often don't bleed all over the place, they bleed internally. Now compare that to "missing arm chunk guy", that's what 5.56 does. The wounds are really really ugly.
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So a REDSHIRT got killed.
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They can charge Kyle with anything they want - he’s not guilty of ANY of it and like Jorge Zimmerman he will be fully exonerated.

He took out some serious trash with about a buck fifty in AR ammo.
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(((Man))) Who Was Shot In The Head In Kenosha Was Seen Earlier Taunting Men With Guns, Dared Them To Shoot Him

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Be careful what you ask for. "Here's your head wound..."

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Dr. Kelley of the Milwaukee Medical Examiner’s Office conducted an autopsy on Joseph Rosenbaum. Dr. Kelley indicated that Rosenbaum had a gunshot wound to the right groin which fractured his pelvis, a gunshot wound to the back which perforated his right lung and liver, a gunshot wound to the left hand, a superficial gunshot wound to his lateral left thigh, and a graze gunshot wound to the right side of his forehead.

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THANK you for sharing this....

So, the 2nd death was from a chest shot that went through the heart, aorta and pulmonary artery....THAT shot would have bled, I would think. I saw no pool of blood under the guy in the street.

Even a graze wound in the head bleeds (think how a busted open scalp bleeds) and the "kill shot" seems to be the shot to the groin...another place that should have bled profusely.....I dunno, gotta watch the videos again.

Thankfully, the report mentions the gun in the right hand of the guy who had his arm shot.

Just a very sad incident any way you look at it.
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So a REDSHIRT got killed.
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If there is a back wound, how did Kyle do that?
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Could be an exit.
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Or it could have been from one of the many gunshots that happened BEFORE Kyle fired his weapon
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Dr. Kelley of the Milwaukee Medical Examiner’s Office conducted an autopsy on Joseph Rosenbaum. Dr. Kelley indicated that Rosenbaum had a gunshot wound to the right groin which fractured his pelvis, a gunshot wound to the back which perforated his right lung and liver, a gunshot wound to the left hand, a superficial gunshot wound to his lateral left thigh, and a graze gunshot wound to the right side of his forehead.

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THANK you for sharing this....

So, the 2nd death was from a chest shot that went through the heart, aorta and pulmonary artery....THAT shot would have bled, I would think. I saw no pool of blood under the guy in the street.

Even a graze wound in the head bleeds (think how a busted open scalp bleeds) and the "kill shot" seems to be the shot to the groin...another place that should have bled profusely.....I dunno, gotta watch the videos again.

Thankfully, the report mentions the gun in the right hand of the guy who had his arm shot.

Just a very sad incident any way you look at it.
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How much would it bleed with the heart not pumping? I am sure it would leak but not pour out.
Remember if you cut yourself on the arm and it is bleeding bad, you tie something tight around your arm above the cut to keep the blood from pumping through that arm so you will not bleed out. If the heart stops because it has been turned to hamburger, it can not pump blood out the hole in the rest of the body.
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you can't hear it on these videos, but the first stream I watched was CJ Halliburton's, Kyle took off running down the street but he was yelling "I didn't shoot anyone" The guy shot in the chest was an accident, he was pulling on the damn gun

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So, all that missing flesh and blood just vaporized?


Pretty much. I’m sure there are bits of his arm here and there, but humans are mostly water and the energy of a 5.56 is a lot. The bullet travels 3,000 feet per second and has 1,200 foot pounds of energy.
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So, all that missing flesh and blood just vaporized?


Pretty much. I’m sure there are bits of his arm here and there, but humans are mostly water and the energy of a 5.56 is a lot. The bullet travels 3,000 feet per second and has 1,200 foot pounds of energy.


Yeah exactly. You can pretty much see it vaporize in the video.
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(((Man))) Who Was Shot In The Head In Kenosha Was Seen Earlier Taunting Men With Guns, Dared Them To Shoot Him

watch video here:

[link to vidmax.com (secure)]



"shoot me n!gga! shoot me n!gga! bust on me n!gga for real!"

--- Josepeh Rosenbaum's last known words


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I was watching the live stream of CJ Halliburton at the time. He came by that fighting at the gas station between the BLM protesters and the militia that were there that night. I remember thinking that the presence of all these guns was escalating things. I also saw someone with complete gear(weapon and vest etc) yank that kid back and push him out of the confrontation.He looked mad at the kid. I think the bald guy was yelling "shoot me n-word", towards the kid we now know is Kyle.I thought he was with the other guys with guns.

It was some minutes later (I have not gone back to the video) that gunfire erupted and there was a lot of gunshots.
CJ Halliburton ran to try to help the person who was closest to him. The guy was a medic and had a tourniquet in his backpack and CJ attempted to do it and had no idea how to tie it and I kept hearing gun fire while he was doing this and I was terrified I was going to see him get shot and I turned off the feed for a few minutes.

People were yelling that the kid was shooting people and said he killed someone.

Later when I turned the livestream back on to see what had happened. I saw the dead guy with a shirt around his head, he was between two cars in the lot and people were freaking out. He did not have a shirt on so I dont know how his shirt came off after he was shot but it looked like a hole in the tee shirt on the right side of his head and I wondered why the shirt was on his head when he was shot and why the hole looked so small and there was no blood. I thought it was very weird that he was seemingly dead but were they saying that hole through the shirt was a bullet hole? It did not make sense but I think at that point someone carried him to hospital which was not far away.

It is totally bizarre to me that they are saying he had these other wounds. The guy that tried to take his shirt off and use it stop bleeding used his own shirt so where was the bald guys shirt if it was someone elses shirt on his head.

Anyway, shots were popping off, then the kid was running and shot the two people that tried to stop him. Then as CJ was tying the tourniquet, there was more gunfire. So it is remarkable not more people were shot.
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I say definitely fake, the video is shot in a way that seems staged. The first alleged victim was a head shot at close range with a .556 round, should be blood everywhere and yet you hardly see any. Iv’e seen even minor head wounds gush, this guy’s strawberry jam should be all over the damn place. Guy shot in the arm seems fake too, I find it hard to believe that little bandanna they tied around his upper arm could have functioned as a proper tourniquet stopping him from passing out from blood loss or going into shock. We saw squibs used for similar theater in the Christchurch shooting hoax.
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Lol it’s not a .556 round... it’s 5.56mm round which is .219”. Tiny holes. Unless he used a hallow point.
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Red pedo guy was shot in the back (and more) with a 9mm or close pistol by black helmet/camera guy.

There is video of it.See him running into the Kyle/pedo area and sure looks like he's firing on them.

An AR-15 in the back would leave a gaping chest wound exiting from chest.Chest does not have a gaping wounds.

So what does that mean I ask you.....
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Helmet/camera guy is Richie Mcginness, daily caller reporter supposedly..theyre pushing his narrative on tucker carlson that he was right on the scene. Ya he was, because he shot the shots lol.
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CJ Halliburton ran to try to help the person who was closest to him. The guy was a medic and had a tourniquet in his backpack and CJ attempted to do it
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It seems they were all "medics"?

Skateboard swinger and arm chunk guy both had identical "paramedic" hats.

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They can charge Kyle with anything they want - he’s not guilty of ANY of it and like Jorge Zimmerman he will be fully exonerated.

He took out some serious trash with about a buck fifty in AR ammo.
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He's going to prison. He traveled 40 miles to protect property that was not his own. Had no business even being there. He will cry every single night in a jail cell until he dies. Poor little boogaloo bitch.
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He kicked your BLM bitch asses didn't he? Medic..I need a medic..sniffle sniffle...
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I say definitely fake, the video is shot in a way that seems staged. The first alleged victim was a head shot at close range with a .556 round, should be blood everywhere and yet you hardly see any. Iv’e seen even minor head wounds gush, this guy’s strawberry jam should be all over the damn place. Guy shot in the arm seems fake too, I find it hard to believe that little bandanna they tied around his upper arm could have functioned as a proper tourniquet stopping him from passing out from blood loss or going into shock. We saw squibs used for similar theater in the Christchurch shooting hoax.
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Yeah, strange. The shooter with the blown out bicep, should have gone into to shock.
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PCP. "Medic" means they got the PCP
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Reports are now that the head wound on Rosenbaum was a graze shot.

Kyle Rittenhouse has been charged with intentional and reckless homicide in Kenosha protest shootings

"The complaint says Rosenbaum suffered gunshot wounds to the groin, back, and hand. He had a graze wound on the right side of his forehead and a superficial wound on his left thigh, the complaint says.

Law enforcement had earlier said he was shot in the head."

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I'm assuming it's the groin shot that got him, possibly the back shot, yet I don't see any blood in the groin area I also don't see evidence of a thigh wound, later in the video, you can see a little blood on his hand for the hand shot. Also, apparently no one else in the video saw blood in his groin area. They were all focusing on the graze to the head.

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3:07. looks real but his reaction and the fact he is not in pain isnt
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I say definitely fake, the video is shot in a way that seems staged. The first alleged victim was a head shot at close range with a .556 round, should be blood everywhere and yet you hardly see any. Iv’e seen even minor head wounds gush, this guy’s strawberry jam should be all over the damn place. Guy shot in the arm seems fake too, I find it hard to believe that little bandanna they tied around his upper arm could have functioned as a proper tourniquet stopping him from passing out from blood loss or going into shock. We saw squibs used for similar theater in the Christchurch shooting hoax.
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Yeah, strange. The shooter with the blown out bicep, should have gone into to shock.
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This photo appears to be from right before arm guy is shot?

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Look at his bicep.
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Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, from Kenosha
Anthony Huber, 26, from Silver Lake
Gaige Grosskreutz, 26, from West Allis

What's up here?

Not the names I expected to see, especially with one or more of these three being armed.
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Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, from Kenosha
Anthony Huber, 26, from Silver Lake
Gaige Grosskreutz, 26, from West Allis

What's up here?

Not the names I expected to see, especially with one or more of these three being armed.
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Reports are now that the head wound on Rosenbaum was a graze shot.

Kyle Rittenhouse has been charged with intentional and reckless homicide in Kenosha protest shootings

"The complaint says Rosenbaum suffered gunshot wounds to the groin, back, and hand. He had a graze wound on the right side of his forehead and a superficial wound on his left thigh, the complaint says.

Law enforcement had earlier said he was shot in the head."

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I'm assuming it's the groin shot that got him, possibly the back shot, yet I don't see any blood in the groin area I also don't see evidence of a thigh wound, later in the video, you can see a little blood on his hand for the hand shot. Also, apparently no one else in the video saw blood in his groin area. They were all focusing on the graze to the head.

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Bond Robin YT'r said the shot arm didn't bleed; I don't want to watch the videos, but I guess there is some weirdness that hopefully gets investigated properly.
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Hope the body has retained some projectiles---bet it's not a match for Rittenhouse's weapon---and might match the pistol that the other attacker had. Do the police have that weapon or did the guy with the shot arm tell one of his accomplices to take the weapon and hide it?
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Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, from Kenosha
Anthony Huber, 26, from Silver Lake
Gaige Grosskreutz, 26, from West Allis

What's up here?

Not the names I expected to see, especially with one or more of these three being armed.
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Red pedo guy was shot in the back (and more) with a 9mm or close pistol by black helmet/camera guy.

There is video of it.See him running into the Kyle/pedo area and sure looks like he's firing on them.

An AR-15 in the back would leave a gaping chest wound exiting from chest.Chest does not have a gaping wounds.

So what does that mean I ask you.....
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It might mean the bullet didn't exit
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Yeah, I still think that head wound looks like a small caliber exit wound and not simply a 'graze' as they are now saying. The swelling is clearly seen under the shirt - a large hematoma already forming. The hole in the shirt around the head wound is a perfect circle and not irregular, like I would expect from a grazing effect. Also, the hole is *larger* in perimeter than the head wound, which I think indicates an exit wound due to the pressure force generated that blew out that shirt, not in. But, to be sure, I am just speculating on common sense and not any real authority here, ie never hunted, been in combat,
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Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, from Kenosha
Anthony Huber, 26, from Silver Lake
Gaige Grosskreutz, 26, from West Allis

What's up here?

Not the names I expected to see, especially with one or more of these three being armed.
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Grosskreutz (26) priors for being drunk and armed
Huber (26) admitted to domestic abuse in 2018
Rosenbaum (36) has too many to count

SO...the point here is that these guys seem to possibly have been there together as part of some deal with cops.

Lots of priors; maybe a promise of clemency if they augment the local police force? Or possibly as part of a federal initiative.
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Yeah, I still think that head wound looks like a small caliber exit wound and not simply a 'graze' as they are now saying. The swelling is clearly seen under the shirt - a large hematoma already forming. The hole in the shirt around the head wound is a perfect circle and not irregular, like I would expect from a grazing effect. Also, the hole is *larger* in perimeter than the head wound, which I think indicates an exit wound due to the pressure force generated that blew out that shirt, not in. But, to be sure, I am just speculating on common sense and not any real authority here, ie never hunted, been in combat,
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Well said
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why was the shirt on his head ? Didn't it get wrapped around his head AFTER he was shot?
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1) hopefully they can check the bullets in the first victim and see if it matches Rittenhouses gun. I did hear way more shots and almost different sounding shots.

2) They had guys on the roof. So if we knew where the roof of the gas station where they had guys was compared to where that 1st shoot was, we could rule in or out that aspect. I have a hunch his buddies maybe saw him getting chased and took the guy down from a shot in the back to save Kyle.

3) Kyle calls 911 and does report the shooting and I think he said “I shot a guy” so even the shooter seems to think he did it. I’m sure he did shoot him at some point but maybe not the kill shot if that was the one in the back.

Strange deal. I feel bad the kid was “put” in this situation by lack of government action. Citizens shouldn’t have to protect their public property and businesses like this. It’s what you pay for, protection. Thank goodness people like him are courageous and are willing to try and do it in the absence of the incompetent local government there.
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Reports are now that the head wound on Rosenbaum was a graze shot.

Kyle Rittenhouse has been charged with intentional and reckless homicide in Kenosha protest shootings

"The complaint says Rosenbaum suffered gunshot wounds to the groin, back, and hand. He had a graze wound on the right side of his forehead and a superficial wound on his left thigh, the complaint says.

Law enforcement had earlier said he was shot in the head."

[link to www.jsonline.com (secure)]

I'm assuming it's the groin shot that got him, possibly the back shot, yet I don't see any blood in the groin area I also don't see evidence of a thigh wound, later in the video, you can see a little blood on his hand for the hand shot. Also, apparently no one else in the video saw blood in his groin area. They were all focusing on the graze to the head.

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 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS

The charging doc itself says it was a graze. hf





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