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Something Bizarre With Rittenhouse/Rosenbaum Shooting

 
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That video is pretty clear. Clearly shows that this is homicide. Kyle chased that guy down and shot him like prey. Kyle was the only one that had a clear shot at him and that could have shot him in the back. Dude probably thought that because they were on private property that he could kill some guys on the opposing side and get away with it. Probably figured that Trump and the Trump Tards would back him. But that video is clear as day. That's homicide. And he almost got away with it.
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Are you senile or communist

Because the kids clearly getting chased
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This video has good footage of the first round of shooting. Go to 00:38 and slow down playback speed to lowest setting.



Third guy runs on to the scene behind Rosenbaum at about 00:43 and it looks like he's carrying his phone as a camera in front of him

Editing this to add that you can also go to 2:42 for another angle (set playback speed to lowest setting again and keep volume on) and it really looks to me like Rittenhouse is still being chased when the shots are made

2:48 | 1st shot - chase still going, not sure how Rittenhouse could have made that shot
2:51 | 2nd - 4th shots - it still looks like Rittenhouse is running
2:53 | 5th - 7th shots - again, still looks like he's running
2:57 | Rittenhouse completes his loop around the cars

I really think someone else was shooting. Not sure if it's the third chasing guy who looks like he's carrying a phone but he would absolutely have the best footage of what actually happened there.

One more edit to add another video with better quality footage of the second angle above


On this video, go to 1:51

1:56 | 1st shot, Rittenhouse really looks to be still running with his back to Rosenbaum
1:58 | 2nd - 4th shots, in this footage it does look like Rittenhouse slows down and turns his body slightly to the left at the same time the shots are fired and you can see Rosenbaum drop to the ground here. I'm not sure he would have time to fire those shots though, because he takes off again. During this guy, the third chaser/camera guy appears to be backing away from the downed Rosenbaum, still filming
2:01 | 5th - 7th shots, Rittenhouse has taken off between the cars and to the left and still appears to be running here. Maybe he was shooting at the ground or randomly shooting?
2:04 | Rittenhouse is back from his loop around the car to see Rosenbaum on ground. Third chaser/camera guy has taken off shirt to assist Rosenbaum
 Quoting: Fe-fi-fo-fana


No CSI...No shell casing evidence...crime scene not secured. Detective PC affidavit based on Daily Caller guy who may be covering his own ass. Who is this detective?
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Right?

There are 8 shots in the Rosenbaum car scene. First a single. Then four in quick succession where Pedo drops. Then 3 more at least one of which takes out a window of a car. Then Helmet guy moves to Rosenbaum.

28 second stabilized version:

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Count the reports. They all sound like the same gun to me. And it sure doesn't sound like a rifle but a 9mm or 380 to my ears.
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Well the report and Kyle said he fired 4 rounds in the lot.so those are the 4 you heard that dropped the pedo

He did kill him in self defense. Kyle's story and the charges report point to him firing 4 bullets in the lot and you said you heard 4 them pedo drop
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If you listen, thec8 shots in the 28 second stabilized vid all sound the same.
They sound lije a 9mm or a 380. Not with the reverb of a rifle. Or the crack of a rifle. The longer barrel adds a tone to shots.

Shits jacked in this. But Kyle doesn't look like the shooter in Rosenbaum's demise.
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No CSI...No shell casing evidence...crime scene not secured. Detective PC affidavit based on Daily Caller guy who may be covering his own ass. Who is this detective?
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Right?

There are 8 shots in the Rosenbaum car scene. First a single. Then four in quick succession where Pedo drops. Then 3 more at least one of which takes out a window of a car. Then Helmet guy moves to Rosenbaum.

28 second stabilized version:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Count the reports. They all sound like the same gun to me. And it sure doesn't sound like a rifle but a 9mm or 380 to my ears.
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Well the report and Kyle said he fired 4 rounds in the lot.so those are the 4 you heard that dropped the pedo

He did kill him in self defense. Kyle's story and the charges report point to him firing 4 bullets in the lot and you said you heard 4 them pedo drop
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14110969

If you listen, thec8 shots in the 28 second stabilized vid all sound the same.
They sound lije a 9mm or a 380. Not with the reverb of a rifle. Or the crack of a rifle. The longer barrel adds a tone to shots.

Shits jacked in this. But Kyle doesn't look like the shooter in Rosenbaum's demise.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Kyle told the police he shot four rounds in the lot. So who's lying

Sometimes audio just sounds weird

Kyle told the police he fired four rounds, and if you read the charges report it says the same

And you can hear four shots in the video in succession

The pedo was shot multiple times according to the report iirc so he may have been hit by another bullet

But Kyle's words the charge report and the video lines up

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If you look at the video of the first shooting taken from behind the action, you can just see a puff of what appears to be smoke in between red shirt pedo guy and the 'Daily Caller cameraman' that was running behind him and pointing with his right arm outstrethed toward red shirt pedo guy. This happened immediately before red shirt pedo guy hit the deck.

How could there be a puff of smoke between the Daily Caller guy with his outstretched right arm, and the Pedo guy just before the latter is falling down?

What could that indicate?
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No,YOU let the chosen people of G-de guy troll you.Dont feed em no matter how much they push your buttons,they seek attention.

We have a shooting to unravel here.......
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If you look at the video of the first shooting taken from behind the action, you can just see a puff of what appears to be smoke in between red shirt pedo guy and the 'Daily Caller cameraman' that was running behind him and pointing with his right arm outstrethed toward red shirt pedo guy. This happened immediately before red shirt pedo guy hit the deck.

How could there be a puff of smoke between the Daily Caller guy with his outstretched right arm, and the Pedo guy just before the latter is falling down?

What could that indicate?
 Quoting: He is Risen


Rittenhouses gun gave off a puff of smoke

They already have done gun forensics. They wouldn't have charged him with the murder if his bullets didn't kill him

It's quick and easy to match that.

It's also going to be a pretty easy defense to get him off on self-defense. But Kyle told the police he fired four shots in the lot

Why do people keep ignoring that, and you can hear those four shots on video right before the pedo drops
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No,YOU let the chosen people of G-de guy troll you.Dont feed em no matter how much they push your buttons,they seek attention.

We have a shooting to unravel here.......
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I'm not even Hebrew asshole

I love everybody cuz I'm a good Christian

You're just piece of shit
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If you look at the video of the first shooting taken from behind the action, you can just see a puff of what appears to be smoke in between red shirt pedo guy and the 'Daily Caller cameraman' that was running behind him and pointing with his right arm outstrethed toward red shirt pedo guy. This happened immediately before red shirt pedo guy hit the deck.

How could there be a puff of smoke between the Daily Caller guy with his outstretched right arm, and the Pedo guy just before the latter is falling down?

What could that indicate?
 Quoting: He is Risen


Rittenhouses gun gave off a puff of smoke

They already have done gun forensics. They wouldn't have charged him with the murder if his bullets didn't kill him

It's quick and easy to match that.

It's also going to be a pretty easy defense to get him off on self-defense. But Kyle told the police he fired four shots in the lot

Why do people keep ignoring that, and you can hear those four shots on video right before the pedo drops
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73035806

The puff of smoke I'm talking about appears to be behind red shirt Pedo, not in front of him.

Do you believe every police report you read?

I'll wait until I hear it from Kyle himself.

And prosecutors like to throw everything they can think of at a defendant in the hopes that something will stick.

And then later when forensics or other discoverable evidence comes in that contradicts their charges, they'll drop those charges they can't reasonably get to stick on the defendant, or else some will try to hide the exonerating evidence. That's why Kyle needs a good defense team to keep that illegal crap from happening.

It's not about the truth, it's about what they can get a Shadownet-picked jury to believe. That's how the Deep State rolls.

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If the 'Daily Caller cameraman' who had no professional camera on sight (not doing his job?), had instead a cellphone in his hand shooting the chase in place of his missing professional camera, then his footage is VERY important to the case and is discoverable.

But being a reporter-cameraman, where is his cellphone footage? Why has it not been released? Does it even exist?

And if it was not a professional camera, nor a cellphone, in his hand of his outstretched right arm pointed at red shirt Pedo recording critical and discoverable close-up video footage of the event, what was in that hand?
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If you look at the video of the first shooting taken from behind the action, you can just see a puff of what appears to be smoke in between red shirt pedo guy and the 'Daily Caller cameraman' that was running behind him and pointing with his right arm outstrethed toward red shirt pedo guy. This happened immediately before red shirt pedo guy hit the deck.

How could there be a puff of smoke between the Daily Caller guy with his outstretched right arm, and the Pedo guy just before the latter is falling down?

What could that indicate?
 Quoting: He is Risen


My husband and I both noticed this as well. It is between the camera filming and red shirt guy, so we are both pretty sure this can't be smoke coming from Kyle's gun.
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If the 'Daily Caller cameraman' who had no professional camera on sight (not doing his job?), had instead a cellphone in his hand shooting the chase in place of his missing professional camera, then his footage is VERY important to the case and is discoverable.

But being a reporter-cameraman, where is his cellphone footage? Why has it not been released? Does it even exist?

And if it was not a professional camera, nor a cellphone, in his hand of his outstretched right arm pointed at red shirt Pedo recording critical and discoverable close-up video footage of the event, what was in that hand?
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Bingo! If he was filming that would be the best vantage point possible. Why hasn't that footage been released? It sure makes one wonder.
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Good video
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Reports are now that the head wound on Rosenbaum was a graze shot.

Kyle Rittenhouse has been charged with intentional and reckless homicide in Kenosha protest shootings

"The complaint says Rosenbaum suffered gunshot wounds to the groin, back, and hand. He had a graze wound on the right side of his forehead and a superficial wound on his left thigh, the complaint says.

Law enforcement had earlier said he was shot in the head."

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I'm assuming it's the groin shot that got him, possibly the back shot, yet I don't see any blood in the groin area I also don't see evidence of a thigh wound, later in the video, you can see a little blood on his hand for the hand shot. Also, apparently no one else in the video saw blood in his groin area. They were all focusing on the graze to the head.

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Sooner, or later, a mass extermination of communists is going to be necessary.

There can never be peace until this happens. Tell me how peace is eve possible, as long as communist agitators are allowed to operate with impunity.
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Leave your damned AR15s at home!

I believe Kyle acted in self defense but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Now isn't the time for that. If that time was to ever come you would know it, so until then stay home!!!
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It's so obvious. They try to hide the supposed bullet-hole with their hands. Crisis actors exposed!
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That arm blown off look fairly real to me. ..
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Leave your damned AR15s at home!

I believe Kyle acted in self defense but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Now isn't the time for that. If that time was to ever come you would know it, so until then stay home!!!
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Easy to say when it's not your business or home getting torched or smashed up.

Kyle was there to protect the property, and had permission from his mother, the property owner, and the local police to do so.
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Leave your damned AR15s at home!

I believe Kyle acted in self defense but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Now isn't the time for that. If that time was to ever come you would know it, so until then stay home!!!
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Easy to say when it's not your business or home getting torched or smashed up.

Kyle was there to protect the property, and had permission from his mother, the property owner, and the local police to do so.
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Do we know which property belonged to his mother?
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Leave your damned AR15s at home!

I believe Kyle acted in self defense but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Now isn't the time for that. If that time was to ever come you would know it, so until then stay home!!!
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Easy to say when it's not your business or home getting torched or smashed up.

Kyle was there to protect the property, and had permission from his mother, the property owner, and the local police to do so.
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Do we know which property belonged to his mother?
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Irrelevant.

You can defend the property of a 3rd Person if they have given you permission to do so. And the owner did so.

Otherwise, there would be no legal justification for security guards.
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If redshit was shot with a 5.56 caliber rifle, you would have seen a LOT of blood.
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If redshit was shot with a 5.56 caliber rifle, you would have seen a LOT of blood.
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hesright
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And big nasty exit wounds galore. .223 tends to go in & out, whereas pistol ammo tends to get trapped inside.

And probably more pink mist too.
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They can charge Kyle with anything they want - he’s not guilty of ANY of it and like Jorge Zimmerman he will be fully exonerated.

He took out some serious trash with about a buck fifty in AR ammo.
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Leave your damned AR15s at home!

I believe Kyle acted in self defense but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Now isn't the time for that. If that time was to ever come you would know it, so until then stay home!!!
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Easy to say when it's not your business or home getting torched or smashed up.

Kyle was there to protect the property, and had permission from his mother, the property owner, and the local police to do so.
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Do we know which property belonged to his mother?
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Irrelevant.

You can defend the property of a 3rd Person if they have given you permission to do so. And the owner did so.

Otherwise, there would be no legal justification for security guards.
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I'm not asking because I'm trying to justify whether he should have been there or not, I was just curious which property it actually was.
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If the 'Daily Caller cameraman' who had no professional camera on sight (not doing his job?), had instead a cellphone in his hand shooting the chase in place of his missing professional camera, then his footage is VERY important to the case and is discoverable.

But being a reporter-cameraman, where is his cellphone footage? Why has it not been released? Does it even exist?

And if it was not a professional camera, nor a cellphone, in his hand of his outstretched right arm pointed at red shirt Pedo recording critical and discoverable close-up video footage of the event, what was in that hand?
 Quoting: He is Risen


Bingo! If he was filming that would be the best vantage point possible. Why hasn't that footage been released? It sure makes one wonder.
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One other thing I got to thinking about when I was laying down was there is one other video that we need to see, if it's not also the same video as the one he was supposedly filming at the time of the shooting, and that is the video where he claimed to the police he was interviewing Kyle right before things started with Rosenbaum, as stated in the complaint as follows:

"Before the shooting, McGinnis was interviewing the defendant. The defendant told McGinnis that he was a trained medic. McGinnis stated that he (McGinnis) has handled many ARs and that the defendant was not handling the weapon very well. McGinnis said that as they were walking south another armed male who appeared to be in his 30s joined them and said he was there to protect the defendant. McGinnis stated that before the defendant reached the parking lot and ran across it, the defendant had moved from the middle of Sheridan Road to the sidewalk and that is when McGinnis saw a male (Rosenbaum) initially try to engage the defendant. McGinnis stated that as the defendant was walking Rosenbaum was trying to get closer to the defendant. When Rosenbaum advanced, the defendant did a 'juke' move and started running. McGinnis stated that there were other people that were moving very quickly. McGinnis stated that they were moving towards the defendant. McGinnis said that according to what he saw the defendant was trying to evade these individuals."

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Also where is the male in his 30's that joined them and was there to protect Kyle when everything started and during the shooting?

EDITED TO ADD: Not sure, but this might be the video:



Note he says "Full video coming soon:"

He never does post any further video for the night of the shooting after this post.

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If there is a back wound, how did Kyle do that?
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He didn't... one of the non-gun handling communists shot him in the back while they were trying to shoot Kyle. It blew his lung and liver apart, that is what killed his sorry ass.. and the world lost nothing.
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If you watch the video of the black persons video he eventually walks over to the scene after the guy has been taken to hospital and there was very little blood on the ground which leads me to believe the was internal bleeding no one could see. There were 4 shots from Kyle when he spun around not 3, where did that other bullet go?
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If there is a back wound, how did Kyle do that?
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I would bet the groin wound was the entry and the back wound was the exit.
5.56 tumbles and can wind and spaghetti it’s way though a body, bouncing off bones like a ping pong ball, while tearing through soft tissues like a knife through butter.
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wrong.
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Reports are now that the head wound on Rosenbaum was a graze shot.

Kyle Rittenhouse has been charged with intentional and reckless homicide in Kenosha protest shootings

"The complaint says Rosenbaum suffered gunshot wounds to the groin, back, and hand. He had a graze wound on the right side of his forehead and a superficial wound on his left thigh, the complaint says.

Law enforcement had earlier said he was shot in the head."

[link to www.jsonline.com (secure)]

I'm assuming it's the groin shot that got him, possibly the back shot, yet I don't see any blood in the groin area I also don't see evidence of a thigh wound, later in the video, you can see a little blood on his hand for the hand shot. Also, apparently no one else in the video saw blood in his groin area. They were all focusing on the graze to the head.

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I keep saying..

Dude with Glock44 who got his arm btfo, shot the pedo (friendly fire)
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No.That was black helmet/camera man.He then whips off his shirt and becomes Mr first aid and fingers Kyle for the shooting,Kyle runs out of that kill zone and into bicep guy and skateboard dude,the next kill zone.

But then something remarkable happened.He took them out instead.
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Pay close attention as the camera person runs up on the scene.. mr helmet takes it off and tosses it on the ground along with his phone and TWO other items.. they look remarkably like a knife and a pistol in a cheeepie uncle mikes "holster".
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Rosenbaum was fresh out after 12 years of prison in Arizona for sex crimes against minors, and here he was in Kenosha chasing another minor!
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Locked up for 12 years and no tatts?

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its right there in black and white you moran.

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Rosenbaum was fresh out after 12 years of prison in Arizona for sex crimes against minors, and here he was in Kenosha chasing another minor!
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Locked up for 12 years and no tatts?

bsflag
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They don't tattoo diddlers in jail dumbfuck.
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If there is a back wound, how did Kyle do that?
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Could be an exit.
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so it means there was a front entry wound as well?

are they saying that?
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No.. medical examiner said it entered his back.. right lung and liver.. look at the video.. no entrance wound there.. but plenty of color starting to show around his ribcage from the internal damage the bullet did entering from the back.





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