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No, you don't get me. They impose standards on others with punishment and say that it is god. When they fail, and are exempt from punishment, the bottom drops out. My weakness was trusting you and believing what you said. Nothing more.
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I understand what you say about punishment and I don't disagree, punishment is not mine to give unless your actions directly affect me, In which case I think an eye for an eye applies.

The problem is really the corporate "society is the victim" bullshit. It needs to stop.

But in all honest, and all respect, I get you. I understand why you feel the way you do because I used to feel the same way, and I don't really feel different, just a little more complex.
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No you got the incentive to work for the people you used to think were unjust and you got sophisticated in lying to yourself. Now you justify what was done to you in the name of bigger, and therefore non-existent ideals. I saw the actual reasons why the people did to me what they did, and I saw the reasoning they gave for it. They lied to me, and the cost of that is I stopped trusting them and stopped caring about them.

If there is war, and society is destroyed, then 'it' will stop. I have no part in this, and don't want to participate. And yes, it all has to do with how you used your power against me.
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Ahhh, there is your problem, you pretend you know things you don't. You have to know what you don't know in order to know what you know. You don't know what you don't know so in effect you don't know anything.

The ills that plague society are human ills, they reside within us. Once you realise you only have yourself to blame, then you are truly "woke".
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Easy. Rabbi molests a disabled kid. Kid's parents go to the cops. Kids parents get called informers and the whole community shuns them and hates them, even though they know what the rabbi did. You can say the concept of informer was misused in this case, but the whole community goes along with it. That means you're the only one who believes it. Being able to do things like that, which have no other justification than getting away with molesting a disabled child, is the only reason the concept of 'informer' exists.

It's not a loophole, not a failing, it's simply that this is the sort of person your rules and your concept of justice were meant to protect. It isn't nihilism if I stop believing in you and your lies. At least I didn't have to see my disabled kid molested before I stopped believing you were good people.

And desiring some form of order and morality, I shopped around. You rolled up, said you were the only game in town, and kicked down my belief system with all sorts of violence against me and my mind. There's nothing after that. You can appeal to Buddhism, although you are not a Buddhist, all you want. You can talk about attachment to outcomes, but somehow you'll never be bothered with the ethics you espouse when it comes to getting your way. So I not only choose not to believe you, but there really isn't any other choice.

WHEN YOU CAN ANSWER THIS OBJECTION, I'LL LISTEN. Otherwise, you're just another liar.
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09/07/2020 02:00 AM
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you think you are different

just like everyone
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I understand what you say about punishment and I don't disagree, punishment is not mine to give unless your actions directly affect me, In which case I think an eye for an eye applies.

The problem is really the corporate "society is the victim" bullshit. It needs to stop.

But in all honest, and all respect, I get you. I understand why you feel the way you do because I used to feel the same way, and I don't really feel different, just a little more complex.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70963845


No you got the incentive to work for the people you used to think were unjust and you got sophisticated in lying to yourself. Now you justify what was done to you in the name of bigger, and therefore non-existent ideals. I saw the actual reasons why the people did to me what they did, and I saw the reasoning they gave for it. They lied to me, and the cost of that is I stopped trusting them and stopped caring about them.

If there is war, and society is destroyed, then 'it' will stop. I have no part in this, and don't want to participate. And yes, it all has to do with how you used your power against me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79308689


Ahhh, there is your problem, you pretend you know things you don't. You have to know what you don't know in order to know what you know. You don't know what you don't know so in effect you don't know anything.

The ills that plague society are human ills, they reside within us. Once you realise you only have yourself to blame, then you are truly "woke".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70963845


Easy. Rabbi molests a disabled kid. Kid's parents go to the cops. Kids parents get called informers and the whole community shuns them and hates them, even though they know what the rabbi did. You can say the concept of informer was misused in this case, but the whole community goes along with it. That means you're the only one who believes it. Being able to do things like that, which have no other justification than getting away with molesting a disabled child, is the only reason the concept of 'informer' exists.

It's not a loophole, not a failing, it's simply that this is the sort of person your rules and your concept of justice were meant to protect. It isn't nihilism if I stop believing in you and your lies. At least I didn't have to see my disabled kid molested before I stopped believing you were good people.

And desiring some form of order and morality, I shopped around. You rolled up, said you were the only game in town, and kicked down my belief system with all sorts of violence against me and my mind. There's nothing after that. You can appeal to Buddhism, although you are not a Buddhist, all you want. You can talk about attachment to outcomes, but somehow you'll never be bothered with the ethics you espouse when it comes to getting your way. So I not only choose not to believe you, but there really isn't any other choice.

WHEN YOU CAN ANSWER THIS OBJECTION, I'LL LISTEN. Otherwise, you're just another liar.
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you are just copy pasting shit or a but fuck off
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No you got the incentive to work for the people you used to think were unjust and you got sophisticated in lying to yourself. Now you justify what was done to you in the name of bigger, and therefore non-existent ideals. I saw the actual reasons why the people did to me what they did, and I saw the reasoning they gave for it. They lied to me, and the cost of that is I stopped trusting them and stopped caring about them.

If there is war, and society is destroyed, then 'it' will stop. I have no part in this, and don't want to participate. And yes, it all has to do with how you used your power against me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79308689


Ahhh, there is your problem, you pretend you know things you don't. You have to know what you don't know in order to know what you know. You don't know what you don't know so in effect you don't know anything.

The ills that plague society are human ills, they reside within us. Once you realise you only have yourself to blame, then you are truly "woke".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70963845


Easy. Rabbi molests a disabled kid. Kid's parents go to the cops. Kids parents get called informers and the whole community shuns them and hates them, even though they know what the rabbi did. You can say the concept of informer was misused in this case, but the whole community goes along with it. That means you're the only one who believes it. Being able to do things like that, which have no other justification than getting away with molesting a disabled child, is the only reason the concept of 'informer' exists.

It's not a loophole, not a failing, it's simply that this is the sort of person your rules and your concept of justice were meant to protect. It isn't nihilism if I stop believing in you and your lies. At least I didn't have to see my disabled kid molested before I stopped believing you were good people.

And desiring some form of order and morality, I shopped around. You rolled up, said you were the only game in town, and kicked down my belief system with all sorts of violence against me and my mind. There's nothing after that. You can appeal to Buddhism, although you are not a Buddhist, all you want. You can talk about attachment to outcomes, but somehow you'll never be bothered with the ethics you espouse when it comes to getting your way. So I not only choose not to believe you, but there really isn't any other choice.

WHEN YOU CAN ANSWER THIS OBJECTION, I'LL LISTEN. Otherwise, you're just another liar.
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you are just copy pasting shit or a but fuck off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70963845


I wrote the original. I know you can't answer it and continue to claim you are for the right, the just, and the true. All you have to do is admit that morality is based on who you are and not what you do. It's that easy. Then my shoulders relax, I stop worrying about you calling me a bad person, and we can stop talking about God or any of your other lies.
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Ahhh, there is your problem, you pretend you know things you don't. You have to know what you don't know in order to know what you know. You don't know what you don't know so in effect you don't know anything.

The ills that plague society are human ills, they reside within us. Once you realise you only have yourself to blame, then you are truly "woke".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70963845


Easy. Rabbi molests a disabled kid. Kid's parents go to the cops. Kids parents get called informers and the whole community shuns them and hates them, even though they know what the rabbi did. You can say the concept of informer was misused in this case, but the whole community goes along with it. That means you're the only one who believes it. Being able to do things like that, which have no other justification than getting away with molesting a disabled child, is the only reason the concept of 'informer' exists.

It's not a loophole, not a failing, it's simply that this is the sort of person your rules and your concept of justice were meant to protect. It isn't nihilism if I stop believing in you and your lies. At least I didn't have to see my disabled kid molested before I stopped believing you were good people.

And desiring some form of order and morality, I shopped around. You rolled up, said you were the only game in town, and kicked down my belief system with all sorts of violence against me and my mind. There's nothing after that. You can appeal to Buddhism, although you are not a Buddhist, all you want. You can talk about attachment to outcomes, but somehow you'll never be bothered with the ethics you espouse when it comes to getting your way. So I not only choose not to believe you, but there really isn't any other choice.

WHEN YOU CAN ANSWER THIS OBJECTION, I'LL LISTEN. Otherwise, you're just another liar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79308689


you are just copy pasting shit or a but fuck off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70963845


I wrote the original. I know you can't answer it and continue to claim you are for the right, the just, and the true. All you have to do is admit that morality is based on who you are and not what you do. It's that easy. Then my shoulders relax, I stop worrying about you calling me a bad person, and we can stop talking about God or any of your other lies.
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At least you admit you are a low effort poster that just responds with regurgitated talking points instead of genuine responses, credit where its due.

I'll do you a favor and respond, I can answer it.

Morality is divine, if it wasn't it would be completely irrelevant. Since we are still here and not in a crater, you can see that objective and not subjective good exists, which is the divinity I'm speaking of.

check
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But yet I try. WOOP
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Wow, I'm just me and WOOP we get debate.
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Easy. Rabbi molests a disabled kid. Kid's parents go to the cops. Kids parents get called informers and the whole community shuns them and hates them, even though they know what the rabbi did. You can say the concept of informer was misused in this case, but the whole community goes along with it. That means you're the only one who believes it. Being able to do things like that, which have no other justification than getting away with molesting a disabled child, is the only reason the concept of 'informer' exists.

It's not a loophole, not a failing, it's simply that this is the sort of person your rules and your concept of justice were meant to protect. It isn't nihilism if I stop believing in you and your lies. At least I didn't have to see my disabled kid molested before I stopped believing you were good people.

And desiring some form of order and morality, I shopped around. You rolled up, said you were the only game in town, and kicked down my belief system with all sorts of violence against me and my mind. There's nothing after that. You can appeal to Buddhism, although you are not a Buddhist, all you want. You can talk about attachment to outcomes, but somehow you'll never be bothered with the ethics you espouse when it comes to getting your way. So I not only choose not to believe you, but there really isn't any other choice.

WHEN YOU CAN ANSWER THIS OBJECTION, I'LL LISTEN. Otherwise, you're just another liar.
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you are just copy pasting shit or a but fuck off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70963845


I wrote the original. I know you can't answer it and continue to claim you are for the right, the just, and the true. All you have to do is admit that morality is based on who you are and not what you do. It's that easy. Then my shoulders relax, I stop worrying about you calling me a bad person, and we can stop talking about God or any of your other lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79308689


At least you admit you are a low effort poster that just responds with regurgitated talking points instead of genuine responses, credit where its due.

I'll do you a favor and respond, I can answer it.

Morality is divine, if it wasn't it would be completely irrelevant. Since we are still here and not in a crater, you can see that objective and not subjective good exists, which is the divinity I'm speaking of.

check
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It only takes a small amount of humbleness to realize it. But when your ego is such a great distance off the beaten path, it becomes an impossible leap. Yet all will come back, no matter how long it takes.
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Sing it with me!

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09/08/2020 11:31 PM
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Sing it with me!


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I will!
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What tattoos do you have to express your individuality just like everyone else?
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LOLOLOL!!

Nailed it!

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What tattoos do you have to express your individuality just like everyone else?
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LOLOLOL!!

Nailed it!

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How about scars? Individuality at a glance.
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It would suck if everyone was the same.
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What tattoos do you have to express your individuality just like everyone else?
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LOLOLOL!!

Nailed it!

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How about scars? Individuality at a glance.
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I'm a member of the thousand stitch club. No tattoos!
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What tattoos do you have to express your individuality just like everyone else?
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LOLOLOL!!

Nailed it!

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How about scars? Individuality at a glance.
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I'm a member of the thousand stitch club. No tattoos!
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No tattoos? Nothing to say on your bod? No art you like on your bod? Have you lived?
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LOLOLOL!!

Nailed it!

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How about scars? Individuality at a glance.
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I'm a member of the thousand stitch club. No tattoos!
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No tattoos? Nothing to say on your bod? No art you like on your bod? Have you lived?
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I've lived long and hard. I'm still here.
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My body is the temple of God and I won't deface it.
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My body is the temple of God and I won't deface it.
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Hey, life defaces your body and mind, if it doesn't you must not be living life.
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Do you really need to express yourself with a tattoo? You can buy a painting and hang it on your wall. The beauty of it is when you're tired of the painting you can replace it.
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Is it to stoke your ego?
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I wouldn't but I'm not you. I am not like you.
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We can still be friendly towards each other! It's my opinion and my body.
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We can still be friendly towards each other! It's my opinion and my body.
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Yes, I just happen to lean toward the artistic and my body is a canvas.
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We can still be friendly towards each other! It's my opinion and my body.
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Yes, I just happen to lean toward the artistic and my body is a canvas.
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It's your body. It's all good.
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We can still be friendly towards each other! It's my opinion and my body.
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Yes, I just happen to lean toward the artistic and my body is a canvas.
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It's your body. It's all good.
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Is your body a temple then?
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What kind of tattoos do you have?
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What kind of tattoos do you have?
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Spiritual ones, and you?
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What kind of tattoos do you have?
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Spiritual ones, and you?
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None, but I admire any great art, especially when it's spiritual.
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What kind of tattoos do you have?
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Spiritual ones, and you?
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None, but I admire any great art, especially when it's spiritual.
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I am surprised at your response, I expected negativity.





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