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IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO PREPPER and PEOPLE WHO STOCKPILE COMMERCIAL FOODS FROM COMPANIES

 
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I forgot to mention that I go to estate sales several times a year where I see people had "brand name" food storage.

Almost all of it has evidence that it has gone bad. Except canned Mountain House...
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If I told you I "saw" this all coming, you would not believe me.
So, since dates matter...
Thread: Eating a can of 12 year old apples.
Thread: Planning ahead. Would you buy this house?
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I'm not talking canned here, I am talking dehydrated and freeze dried that is supposed to last and it's not.
 Quoting: MeowMix


I never trusted that stuff.

Canned only or dry goods like pasta/rice.

I don't bother thinking of storing wheat flour long term. Just some masa harina. Best is a store of wheat berries and a means to grind them into flour.
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Remember, almost all grain will have bugs in it. Even milled flour. The eggs are in there just waiting.

Masa is chemically processed corn to make it more nutritious, so it probably stores better than anything.
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"I have had customers in tears because they were so scared, I have had people so worried about the future and how to protect your family and their children that they were scrounging from wherever they could just to get a few dollars to take advantage of some special that we were advertising. People were putting their last dollar into storable foods."

This makes me cringe. Great thread OP! Look, folks, regardless of whether or not you think buying stored food is the correct way of prepping, a lot of people are buying these foods. They are not cheap to buy. And people buy them with a lot of expectations - i.e. that they are doing something safe and responsible for their families.

I think it is important to compile a list of good and bad experiences with these companies and foods.

Also, a lot of people here are mentioning that you have to store these items in optimal conditions. How many people know this? I mean having to store something in constantly stable sub 72 degree, non-humid environment, would be a daunting task for those of us who live in humid and hot cities.

I dunno, I think this needs more airing out and less "this isn't the right way to prep, guys" sermonizing.
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OMG you hit the nail on the head and thank you for understanding. Knowing full well what proper storage conditions should be for the foods we sold, it was my job to make sure customers had what they called to order. I couldn't just sit there on the phone and tell them, if you can't store this at 60° or lower than please don't buy it. Yeah that would've gone over like a lead balloon.


I do completely understand the relevance of proper storage. But I can tell you this:

Some of the foods that I have from "certain companies" were crap after 8 to 10 years. And then others I have from other companies are just fine. So you can tell the "storable conditions" thing all day long and I still say much of it has to do with the quality of packaging and the foods itself.

Once again thank you for understanding.

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I don't know if anything like this has been posted before but for the last few weeks I have been cleaning out things around here and on those things is my food stash. Mind you, I have been stashing food for about 10 years. I have foods from several different companies.

As a side note let me just throw this in their real quick: I had a three month supply from a company that I received about seven or eight years ago and it had been stashed under my bed. I threw it out.

One more sidenote: I used to work for one of the major storable food companies. I used to sell this stuff to customers. Now I feel like I have jilted them.

So back to what I was saying, as I began clearing out things I started selling and throwing things out. What really struck me is how much of the food had actually gone "bad".

Almost all of the foods from EFoods and My Patriot Supply were bad. What I mean by bad? Let me explain:

Upon opening the bag the contents were a bit discolored. Well maybe that's part of the natural aging process and they're still actually edible, so I go to prepare them. Potato soup is gross. Cheesy broccoli and rice, gross. Granola, rancid. Cheesy potato soup was tolerable. Creamy chicken and rice, let's not go there. Tasted like ass.
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I mean you can still live on the stuff I guess, but is this really what peole paid for? Weren't we told that these foods would keep for 25 years? I'm calling BS.

I mean after all their dehydrated freeze-dried so they're supposed to retain their viability right?

I'm going to go dig some more and experiment some more and document some more. I really believed in the products that I was selling to customers. I swear to God I hope that this is not common because if it is I have this crap on my conscience.

Please check your own stash, or if you already have and have found out that your foods suck and you had to throw them away or get rid of them, respond and let me know.

The companies that I have foods from are:

EFoods
My Patriot Supply ( think they changed the foods from Patriot Pantry to Ready Hour or something like that.)

Wise, who I think is now under Readywise.
Emergency Essentials.
Food4Patriots
Auguson Farms
 Quoting: MeowMix


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I have like 14 buckets of those 25 year old lasting foods. Its 10 years now since I bought them. Shit, gonna go check them now I guess. Thanks for the imput.
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"I have had customers in tears because they were so scared, I have had people so worried about the future and how to protect your family and their children that they were scrounging from wherever they could just to get a few dollars to take advantage of some special that we were advertising. People were putting their last dollar into storable foods."

This makes me cringe. Great thread OP! Look, folks, regardless of whether or not you think buying stored food is the correct way of prepping, a lot of people are buying these foods. They are not cheap to buy. And people buy them with a lot of expectations - i.e. that they are doing something safe and responsible for their families.

I think it is important to compile a list of good and bad experiences with these companies and foods.

Also, a lot of people here are mentioning that you have to store these items in optimal conditions. How many people know this? I mean having to store something in constantly stable sub 72 degree, non-humid environment, would be a daunting task for those of us who live in humid and hot cities.

I dunno, I think this needs more airing out and less "this isn't the right way to prep, guys" sermonizing.
 Quoting: PrezofTX


OMG you hit the nail on the head and thank you for understanding. Knowing full well what proper storage conditions should be for the foods we sold, it was my job to make sure customers had what they called to order. I couldn't just sit there on the phone and tell them, if you can't store this at 60° or lower than please don't buy it. Yeah that would've gone over like a lead balloon.
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You can't just tell people to store it in a cool basement either. Because most basements are gonna be damp, and then you have the problems of canned goods rusting because of the humidity. I've seen what a basement can do to canned goods after just a few years. Rusted right through them.

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I don't know if anything like this has been posted before but for the last few weeks I have been cleaning out things around here and on those things is my food stash. Mind you, I have been stashing food for about 10 years. I have foods from several different companies.

As a side note let me just throw this in their real quick: I had a three month supply from a company that I received about seven or eight years ago and it had been stashed under my bed. I threw it out.

One more sidenote: I used to work for one of the major storable food companies. I used to sell this stuff to customers. Now I feel like I have jilted them.

So back to what I was saying, as I began clearing out things I started selling and throwing things out. What really struck me is how much of the food had actually gone "bad".

Almost all of the foods from EFoods and My Patriot Supply were bad. What I mean by bad? Let me explain:

Upon opening the bag the contents were a bit discolored. Well maybe that's part of the natural aging process and they're still actually edible, so I go to prepare them. Potato soup is gross. Cheesy broccoli and rice, gross. Granola, rancid. Cheesy potato soup was tolerable. Creamy chicken and rice, let's not go there. Tasted like ass.
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I mean you can still live on the stuff I guess, but is this really what peole paid for? Weren't we told that these foods would keep for 25 years? I'm calling BS.

I mean after all their dehydrated freeze-dried so they're supposed to retain their viability right?

I'm going to go dig some more and experiment some more and document some more. I really believed in the products that I was selling to customers. I swear to God I hope that this is not common because if it is I have this crap on my conscience.

Please check your own stash, or if you already have and have found out that your foods suck and you had to throw them away or get rid of them, respond and let me know.

The companies that I have foods from are:

EFoods
My Patriot Supply ( think they changed the foods from Patriot Pantry to Ready Hour or something like that.)

Wise, who I think is now under Readywise.
Emergency Essentials.
Food4Patriots
Auguson Farms
 Quoting: MeowMix

Stick to Mountain House end of story.
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Don't think you said how you stored them OP ! At what temperature !
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I've mentioned it several times throughout this thread, but I don't expect you to read every single post. :)

The foods were stored at 72°. That is the temperature I keep my home thermostat at. They were stored in waterproof plastic containers that they were shipped in. They were not exposed to moisture and they were not sent directly on a cement floor but buffered by sick padded carpet. Cool dry and dark.

It's the best I could do.

I'll also mention one more time that I have food from several different companies, and some of the companies just do not stand up to the test while the others did. I have been storing foods for a very long time. So if temperature is such a factor then tell me why all of the foods haven't started going bad.
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I have mre’s about 6 years past it’s date. I opened one up and it was still good, the brownie tasted ok, everything was still ok. I hear they can last a while but lose nutritional value over time But still can be good I’ve read from 10 years and longer depending on storing conditions
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Apparently the deadly botulin toxin, created by the botulinum bacteria that is occasionally encountered in improperly-canned low-acid foods, is rendered harmless or destroyed if boiled at 212°F for a minimum of ten full minutes. In fact, the USDA recommends that all home-canned food be boiled this way before consuming, just as a safety precaution. That said, there are other ‘bugs’ that can get into food that aren’t affected by boiling, which is why the usual dictum applies: “If in doubt, throw it out”, especially if the food foams, looks odd or has an off-odor.

Funny story: my dear late mother used to always boil any commercially-canned vegetables she opened for at least ten minutes. She said that she did it because that’s what her mother did. Well, my mother was born in the early 1920s, so her mother learned to cook in the very early 1900s. Commercially-canned food wasn’t as rigidly regulated back then as it is nowadays, and there were often sporadic outbreaks of food poisoning from poorly-canned food. Because of this, it was customary to boil the blazes out of canned food. Commercial canning had become nearly infallible by the latter half of the past century, but my mother retained the habit of the 10-minute boil until she stopped cooking, well into her eighties.
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MREs are the way to go. Sure they cost more but worth it. Try some of the food right away so it can be replaced if need be. Rotate stock no matter what food you have stored for SHTF.
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With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic.

Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap?



I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last.
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Alright, look. You fucked up. You sold people garbage and now, perhaps thousands will starve because of your ass. Don't get mad at people for focusing on the real issue and not pandering to your lack of morals. Shit goes bad. No surprise there.

Now, back to real conversation about food prep and ignoring your whiney comments about how you sold scheisty product that turned out to be shit quality. You fucked people over. Move on or don't.
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With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic.

Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap?



I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last.
 Quoting: MeowMix


Alright, look. You fucked up. You sold people garbage and now, perhaps thousands will starve because of your ass. Don't get mad at people for focusing on the real issue and not pandering to your lack of morals. Shit goes bad. No surprise there.

Now, back to real conversation about food prep and ignoring your whiney comments about how you sold scheisty product that turned out to be shit quality. You fucked people over. Move on or don't.
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That’s an awful thing to say. OP wasn’t aware of the quality issues at the time, and was acting honorably.
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MREs are the way to go. Sure they cost more but worth it. Try some of the food right away so it can be replaced if need be. Rotate stock no matter what food you have stored for SHTF.
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You can pick them up locally for $30 a case sometimes if the timing and offer is right.
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25 year shelf life? Sounds like a civil case of false advertising. Surely you'll be able to find an ambulance chaser to pursue your litigation.

That is all.
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With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic.

Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap?



I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last.
 Quoting: MeowMix


Alright, look. You fucked up. You sold people garbage and now, perhaps thousands will starve because of your ass. Don't get mad at people for focusing on the real issue and not pandering to your lack of morals. Shit goes bad. No surprise there.

Now, back to real conversation about food prep and ignoring your whiney comments about how you sold scheisty product that turned out to be shit quality. You fucked people over. Move on or don't.
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That’s an awful thing to say. OP wasn’t aware of the quality issues at the time, and was acting honorably.
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At least they realized their error of trusting these high-profit companies, most of which just repackage cheap bulk commodity foods and use scammy fear-mongering marketing.
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With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic.

Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap?



I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last.
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Alright, look. You fucked up. You sold people garbage and now, perhaps thousands will starve because of your ass. Don't get mad at people for focusing on the real issue and not pandering to your lack of morals. Shit goes bad. No surprise there.

Now, back to real conversation about food prep and ignoring your whiney comments about how you sold scheisty product that turned out to be shit quality. You fucked people over. Move on or don't.
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Oh gawd you made my day!! hahahahaaaaa Thanks for the giggles!
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25 year shelf life? Sounds like a civil case of false advertising. Surely you'll be able to find an ambulance chaser to pursue your litigation.

That is all.
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They say "up to xx years".
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All I know is there are going to be LOTS of very disappointed upset folks when they go to use their stored foods.

People have spent thousands of dollars on these foods. They might be able to use half of them, maybe more, maybe less.
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NEVER buy from a "specialty" company.
They are usually fads. They have a huge influx, then the buying stops. They go out of business and you are none-the-wiser till many years down the roads.

PLUS, they got into the business for PROFIT above all else.
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I hate to burst your bubble but most businesses go into business for profit. :-)

Right now the preparedness food industry is at an all-time high, and none of them are "going out of business". The top ones can't keep up with their orders. The ones that went out of business went out long ago, like several years ago.

They are still promoting foods which is fine, but what I'm afraid there promoting isn't all it's cut out to be.
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No bubble to be burst here. I outfitted two other homes before my current designed to be able to survive without human contact for a few years.
You and other were taken advantage of because you did not want to learn to do for yourself.

Doomsday Preppers was even a sham.
NO real prepper would ever show their ways to the general public.

Get wiser.
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How do you outfit a home to go without human contact? Can you give us a play-by-play?
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Try to cook and eat old beans. They will not get soft even after soaking and cooking for days.”

Does grinding HARD BEANS & then added to

Boiling soups & stews work?(to make them digestible)

I don’t know!
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How long does uncooked pasta last?

Would think a few years at least.
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With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic.

Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap?



I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last.
 Quoting: MeowMix


Alright, look. You fucked up. You sold people garbage and now, perhaps thousands will starve because of your ass. Don't get mad at people for focusing on the real issue and not pandering to your lack of morals. Shit goes bad. No surprise there.

Now, back to real conversation about food prep and ignoring your whiney comments about how you sold scheisty product that turned out to be shit quality. You fucked people over. Move on or don't.
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That’s an awful thing to say. OP wasn’t aware of the quality issues at the time, and was acting honorably.
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The truth hurts.
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I have Mountain House mylar packed meals that I have every once in while that were purchased in early 2008 with 2014 "best by" dates. Still as good as the day they were purchased. Only buy quality if you expect it to last.
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ditto
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With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic.

Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap?



I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last.
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Alright, look. You fucked up. You sold people garbage and now, perhaps thousands will starve because of your ass. Don't get mad at people for focusing on the real issue and not pandering to your lack of morals. Shit goes bad. No surprise there.

Now, back to real conversation about food prep and ignoring your whiney comments about how you sold scheisty product that turned out to be shit quality. You fucked people over. Move on or don't.
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That’s an awful thing to say. OP wasn’t aware of the quality issues at the time, and was acting honorably.
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At least they realized their error of trusting these high-profit companies, most of which just repackage cheap bulk commodity foods and use scammy fear-mongering marketing.
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Thanks for the support. I could tell you some stories, Maybe one of these days I'll post one of those "ASK ME A QUESTION" threads LOL
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25 year shelf life? Sounds like a civil case of false advertising. Surely you'll be able to find an ambulance chaser to pursue your litigation.

That is all.
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They say "up to xx years".
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that is correct. That is the key. It all depends on temperature, and the high majority of customers do not have the conditions in which are ideal for the full 25 year shelf life, or 15 or whatever that variety of food might happen to be.

but again, much of it has to do with quality of product and packaging.
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A jar of fresh made ghee (butter oil) where the jar was sterile and sealed properly will last for a hundred years.

Basmati Rice, stored properly, will last indefinitely. It is the king of rice, cooks in 12 minutes, easily digested and tastes like popcorn.

Dried Beans (lentils and mung beans fast cooking and most digestible) stored properly, will last decades. High protein and easy to digest.

Wheat berries store for 10-20 years. Just need a grinding mill to make flour as you go.

Canned vegetables are good for 5 years. I have carrots, green beans, spinach, corn, tomatoe, potatoes, etc.

Properly freeze dried vegetables likewise but you might need to do it yourself to do it right.

Salt, Pepper, cinnamon, ginger, and freshly ground spices like those in mixed curry, properly sealed in small serving containers, will last a decade. The spices in curry are anti-inflammatory, increase digestion, anti-parasitic, anti-oxidant, and are tasty.

So quite simply you have FRESH MADE rice and beans with vegetables in a butter/curry sauce and flat-bread at the ready for super cheap, without relying on the dubious "ready made" freeze dried techniques that promise 20 year shelf life that winds up being more like 3 or 4 MAX.
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Plus, Mung Beans and Lentils can be sprouted and you'll have fresh edible sprouts within 3 or 4 days. One Tablespoon of Mung Beans sprouts 2 CUPS!!!
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I have been dehydrating everything I can get my hands on.
Our food bank loads us up with veggies this time of the year.

I am so glad I take the time to do that
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I have Mountain House mylar packed meals that I have every once in while that were purchased in early 2008 with 2014 "best by" dates. Still as good as the day they were purchased. Only buy quality if you expect it to last.
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ditto
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They are sealed on an industrial automated assembly line, though. The weld goes all the way around the entire edge of the package. Mountain House guarantees their bagged food for 30 years, the same as their canned. But it is more expensive by serving size.
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How long does uncooked pasta last?

Would think a few years at least.
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From my experience you leave it in the cardboard packaging, it's really good for only about a year before the bug eggs hatch. Even though it generally has a 2 year from manufacture "best by" date. I just put the boxes I don't plan on using right away in a 5 cent generic Walmart gallon sized ziplock bag to keep oxygen from circulating to a minimum.

I haven't had any experience with long term normal pasta storage beyond that, though. I have eaten 5 year old Mountain House freeze-dried lasagna and it was fine.

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Check out www.ThePrepBox.com they send REAL food on a monthly subscription already mylared with an oxygen absorber, spices, recipes , etc. pretty good price at $34.99. Here is the website [link to www.ThePrepBox.com]

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Wow, that's the worst advertising ive ever seen. Literally no description ANYWHERE on the site about what's being sent to you. Just a few thumbnails of spices and talk of products coming in mylar bags. Nothing about what the products are, or quantity. Am i paying $35/month for a 1lb bag of rice and a few ounces of beans in mylar bags, lol?





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