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China no longer recognizes median line in the Taiwan Strait. (Update: Bombers have crossed the line)

 
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Sorry china, fuel oil munitions are so out of date. Step up your fear to 2020. hf
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Sorry china, fuel oil munitions are so out of date. Step up your fear to 2020. hf
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Their whole commie propaganda thing is pretty much out of date.
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Sorry china, fuel oil munitions are so out of date. Step up your fear to 2020. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Their whole commie propaganda thing is pretty much out of date.
 Quoting: Tekton

Amen, and asshats here would have you believe their super secret stealth hypersonic anti carrier missiles are real. Bring it on bitches I say. China would put up a good fight.  Not as intense conventionally as Russia but worth a fight but they'd lose in a week if push comes to shove. hf
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Re: China no longer recognizes median line in the Taiwan Strait. (Update: Bombers have crossed the line)
Now it actually wouldn't take that much naval power to INVADE the island -- again if the US and US Navy let them.
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China has world largest navy and no way USA will risk aircraft carriers in south China sea
China will taunt Taiwan to shoot one of there aircraft down that gives them the moral ground to invade. Next month presidential election coming soon best time to act.
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LOL you're retarded. No, they don't CLeetus.
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Sorry china, fuel oil munitions are so out of date. Step up your fear to 2020. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Their whole commie propaganda thing is pretty much out of date.
 Quoting: Tekton

Amen, and asshats here would have you believe their super secret stealth hypersonic anti carrier missiles are real. Bring it on bitches I say. China would put up a good fight.  Not as intense conventionally as Russia but worth a fight but they'd lose in a week if push comes to shove. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Well, we're not far behind them in hypersonic missiles AND we may have such weapons already developed in secret.


We don't always flaunt what we have -- until we need to.
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Sorry china, fuel oil munitions are so out of date. Step up your fear to 2020. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Their whole commie propaganda thing is pretty much out of date.
 Quoting: Tekton

Amen, and asshats here would have you believe their super secret stealth hypersonic anti carrier missiles are real. Bring it on bitches I say. China would put up a good fight.  Not as intense conventionally as Russia but worth a fight but they'd lose in a week if push comes to shove. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Well, we're not far behind them in hypersonic missiles AND we may have such weapons already developed in secret.


We don't always flaunt what we have -- until we need to.
 Quoting: Tekton

And you know this how? you worked and designed their missiles? Doubt it, I do. Well bitch I retired from Raytheon and our tech is three times theirs. So yea bring it on I dare them and you pussy.
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Their whole commie propaganda thing is pretty much out of date.
 Quoting: Tekton

Amen, and asshats here would have you believe their super secret stealth hypersonic anti carrier missiles are real. Bring it on bitches I say. China would put up a good fight.  Not as intense conventionally as Russia but worth a fight but they'd lose in a week if push comes to shove. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Well, we're not far behind them in hypersonic missiles AND we may have such weapons already developed in secret.


We don't always flaunt what we have -- until we need to.
 Quoting: Tekton

And you know this how? you worked and designed their missiles? Doubt it, I do. Well bitch I retired from Raytheon and our tech is three times theirs. So yea bring it on I dare them and you pussy.
hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Dude, I don't think you get it.


I am not boasting about their capabilities. I am saying we probably have those same capabilities or better.


Sometimes, I don't think you get where I am coming from.



(But I did once work in aerospace for what it's worth, and I know some people.)
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Unless you workeded for Boeing advanced designs or Lockheed Martin next generation and understand missile concepts post 2040 advanced concepts, please let me sleep, else I might embarrass you with our designs. hf
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Unless you workeded for Boeing advanced designs or Lockheed Martin next generation and understand missile concepts post 2040 advanced concepts, please let me sleep, else I might embarrass you with our designs. hf
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I think if you published those designs, you'd probably be violating a lot of security regulations, but please do go back to sleep.


I don't need the negativity.
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Sorry china, fuel oil munitions are so out of date. Step up your fear to 2020. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Their whole commie propaganda thing is pretty much out of date.
 Quoting: Tekton

Amen, and asshats here would have you believe their super secret stealth hypersonic anti carrier missiles are real. Bring it on bitches I say. China would put up a good fight.  Not as intense conventionally as Russia but worth a fight but they'd lose in a week if push comes to shove. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Well, we're not far behind them in hypersonic missiles AND we may have such weapons already developed in secret.


We don't always flaunt what we have -- until we need to.
 Quoting: Tekton

Not far behind? Watch what happens when our weapon systems go toe to toe. Teust me, they are three generations behind. hf
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Their whole commie propaganda thing is pretty much out of date.
 Quoting: Tekton

Amen, and asshats here would have you believe their super secret stealth hypersonic anti carrier missiles are real. Bring it on bitches I say. China would put up a good fight.  Not as intense conventionally as Russia but worth a fight but they'd lose in a week if push comes to shove. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Well, we're not far behind them in hypersonic missiles AND we may have such weapons already developed in secret.


We don't always flaunt what we have -- until we need to.
 Quoting: Tekton

Not far behind? Watch what happens when our weapon systems go toe to toe. Teust me, they are three generations behind. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth

Well, I've already said (several times) that I consider that possible, and I certainly hope you are right.


Take it easy.


Please
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I think we have had hypersonic missiles for a long long time.

1960s






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I think we have had hypersonic missiles for a long long time.

1960s



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Agreed
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We had stealth tech for decades before we broke open the box.

That's how we roll.


The Chinaman and Ivan are like basketball-Americans on the first of the month, rollin' up in the new Caddy they just picked up.


They like to show off their shit right away -- sometimes before it even works.

Like the Russians' nuclear powered cruise missile.

They're cruisers all right.

cruise
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Unless you workeded for Boeing advanced designs or Lockheed Martin next generation and understand missile concepts post 2040 advanced concepts, please let me sleep, else I might embarrass you with our designs. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


I think if you published those designs, you'd probably be violating a lot of security regulations, but please do go back to sleep.


I don't need the negativity.
 Quoting: Tekton

Published? ?What is published? You know the prf sync rate of an ASPG55B MOD 10? how about slew rate or doppler return? Not gonna happen but what I can say, is what we have is three/four generations beyond their tech. truthfully, I hate to admit but we outsourced our microprocessor tech to them circa 85. Our radar circa '85 was working on AI chips before the thought was even known, Know how I knew how? They brought the chips aboard and confressed they flew before, on an Apollo mission and we were suppose to verify the tech. Oh yea it worked and we validated it. Welcome to Raytheon SM6. hf
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Sorry china, fuel oil munitions are so out of date. Step up your fear to 2020. hf
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Their whole commie propaganda thing is pretty much out of date.
 Quoting: Tekton

Amen, and asshats here would have you believe their super secret stealth hypersonic anti carrier missiles are real. Bring it on bitches I say. China would put up a good fight.  Not as intense conventionally as Russia but worth a fight but they'd lose in a week if push comes to shove. hf
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No disrespect but I assume you'd be on the frontlines?
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Is that 40 in one go or 40 all together?
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Unless you workeded for Boeing advanced designs or Lockheed Martin next generation and understand missile concepts post 2040 advanced concepts, please let me sleep, else I might embarrass you with our designs. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


I think if you published those designs, you'd probably be violating a lot of security regulations, but please do go back to sleep.


I don't need the negativity.
 Quoting: Tekton

Published? ?What is published? You know the prf sync rate of an ASPG55B MOD 10? how about slew rate or doppler return? Not gonna happen but what I can say, is what we have is three/four generations beyond their tech. truthfully, I hate to admit but we outsourced our microprocessor tech to them circa 85. Our radar circa '85 was working on AI chips before the thought was even known, Know how I knew how? They brought the chips aboard and confressed they flew before, on an Apollo mission and we were suppose to verify the tech. Oh yea it worked and we validated it. Welcome to Raytheon SM6. hf
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You can thank President Clinton for selling the Chicoms our missile tech during the 90's.
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I am curious as to what specific AI chips were functional in 1985. Since you mention they were used in radar systems, I can only think of early DSP chips used for RF applications.

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Is that 40 in one go or 40 all together?
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All together over two days.
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Is that 40 in one go or 40 all together?
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All together over two days.
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Ah fair enough i was going to say 40 in one go would be excessive of the chinese lucky they were shot down or targeted
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The Taiwan military is not allowed to attack unless they're being attacked or have infallible proof the Chinese are going to attack.

When China decides to attack, they're going to go all in and mop the floor with Taiwan. It will be fast, it will be precise, and it will be devastating.

Remember, it is a large part of China's military strategy to sow the idea that they're weak and unable to fight. They are most likely employing a portion of their military's cyber division to spread this type of false propaganda about themselves online. The element of surprise depends on downplaying their hand.
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They sent 40 planes over the median line, including bombers over 48 hours.

I don't think this is fabricated "propaganda".

I think this is a real message.
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Why should we care?

I don't.

I still believe in "No foreign entanglements!".
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Why should we care?

I don't.

I still believe in "No foreign entanglements!".
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Going to WWI was a mistake.

Fighting WWII was a mistake as far as the European part of it is concerned.

Korea was a bloody mistake.

Vietnam... what a clusterfuck.

Iraq, Afghanistan... jeez.

Just stop it!
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The Taiwan military is not allowed to attack unless they're being attacked or have infallible proof the Chinese are going to attack.

When China decides to attack, they're going to go all in and mop the floor with Taiwan. It will be fast, it will be precise, and it will be devastating.

Remember, it is a large part of China's military strategy to sow the idea that they're weak and unable to fight. They are most likely employing a portion of their military's cyber division to spread this type of false propaganda about themselves online. The element of surprise depends on downplaying their hand.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


They sent 40 planes over the median line, including bombers over 48 hours.

I don't think this is fabricated "propaganda".

I think this is a real message.
 Quoting: Tekton


That's my point exactly.

Taiwan didn't do a d*mn thing.


As for the propaganda...listen to people talk up American military capability opposed to China's. That's intentional or delusional. China is a hundred miles away from Taiwan with as sophisticated missiles as the USA while the USA is 7500 miles away.

USA can't stop what's coming.
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Which allies will we defend when the time comes?

Seems like a fair question.

Other countries might want to know so as to make alternate plans.


Just sayin.





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