28 YR Old Young Woman Declared A COVID-19 Death, Despite Dying Of A Brain Bleed Caused By High Risk Treatment.....The Medical System Is ROTTEN!!! | |
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Dr. Calhoun
(OP) User ID: 78455092 Canada 09/20/2020 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 28 YR Old Young Woman Declared A COVID-19 Death, Despite Dying Of A Brain Bleed Caused By High Risk Treatment.....The Medical System Is ROTTEN!!! Feel free to elaborate! Last Edited by Dr. Van Gogh on 09/20/2020 01:21 AM I'm retired, which means I can now publicly reveal how few fucks I give without getting fired. |
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Dr. Calhoun
(OP) User ID: 78455092 Canada 09/20/2020 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 28 YR Old Young Woman Declared A COVID-19 Death, Despite Dying Of A Brain Bleed Caused By High Risk Treatment.....The Medical System Is ROTTEN!!! I'm not sure what you're implying with that type of comment. This is a tragedy. Why? because her doctors should have advised her to immediately go on the Zelenko protocol upon initial symptoms, particularly if she encountered a higher viral load, which she likely did given that she treated patients herself. I cannot fathom why this was not done. Also, HFNC needs to replace intubation. Avoiding intubation and high dose blood thinners is key. Hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin + HFNC + High Dose + ZINC + Vitamin D Source: [link to www.uchicagomedicine.org (secure)] [link to www.preprints.org (secure)] The bottom line, for the people who do actually have Covid, is we're STILL not treating it correctly in the vast majority of patients. Covid didn't kill this patient. Covid opened the pathway to piss poor judgments, leading to unnecessary blood thinners and ECMO. The data is clear on intubation risks as well as on ECMO alongside heparin. Last Edited by Dr. Van Gogh on 09/20/2020 01:40 AM I'm retired, which means I can now publicly reveal how few fucks I give without getting fired. |
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Dr. Calhoun
(OP) User ID: 78455092 Canada 09/20/2020 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 28 YR Old Young Woman Declared A COVID-19 Death, Despite Dying Of A Brain Bleed Caused By High Risk Treatment.....The Medical System Is ROTTEN!!! If she hadn’t been exposed to Covid while treating patients for Covid, she wouldn’t have ended up in intensive care being treated for covid. I’m sorry she didn’t die in the proper manner for you to classify her death as from covid. Everybody else classified it properly. You and many others out there, are not grasping this and just seem to want to argue, despite not having any foundation on the facts. As I already stated, she entered the hospital due to Covid. However, she died due to piss poor judgment. Take the time and actually read the details. Read her parent's journal. Her prognosis was remarkably better long before hear death. Alternative protocols could have put her on the path to heal at that junction. Instead, she was given a very harmful pathway, which included upping her medication (often switching it back to back) and she was continued to be intubated despite o2 levels that didn't justify intubation when an HFNC could have been used, which only caused further damage to her already damaged lungs. Blood thinners in conjunction with Intubation, much less ECMO which is super dangerous. It's a recipe for disaster. So, once again, did Covid cause her brain to massively bleed? No, it did not. That's just a fact. The brain bleed was caused by ECMO alongside heperin. An acute brain bleed was what killed her. The documentation on the risks associated with that particular "treatment", is extensive and clear. Last Edited by Dr. Van Gogh on 09/20/2020 02:14 AM I'm retired, which means I can now publicly reveal how few fucks I give without getting fired. |
Dr. Calhoun
(OP) User ID: 78455092 Canada 09/20/2020 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 28 YR Old Young Woman Declared A COVID-19 Death, Despite Dying Of A Brain Bleed Caused By High Risk Treatment.....The Medical System Is ROTTEN!!! If she hadn’t been exposed to Covid while treating patients for Covid, she wouldn’t have ended up in intensive care being treated for covid. I’m sorry she didn’t die in the proper manner for you to classify her death as from covid. Everybody else classified it properly. If you read the journal, you'd know that Adeline actually tested negative for Covid over a week before her death. A negative result implies that her body likely beat the virus at least a month prior to her death, since RNA fragments are detected for 4 to 6 weeks after a subject is no longer infectious. Also, there have been studies that have shown that the body can sustain extremely low o2 levels, even when the situation looks rather bleak. It turns out that the human body and mother nature are rather remarkable in that way. Studies have shown that when patients (even with the residual damage of Covid) are left on their own accord OR they are put on a much less invasive protocol such as HFNC, they actually have a massively higher chance of survival than if they were ever intubated. Adeline was not only intubated early on, but she was then put on ECMO as a RESULT of her lungs being so damaged. The initial damage was from Covid, but was 100% compounded by her initial intubation. Start compounding drugs and you have the perfect cocktail for disaster. I'm retired, which means I can now publicly reveal how few fucks I give without getting fired. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78279757 United States 09/20/2020 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 28 YR Old Young Woman Declared A COVID-19 Death, Despite Dying Of A Brain Bleed Caused By High Risk Treatment.....The Medical System Is ROTTEN!!! You and many others out there, are not grasping this and just seem to want to argue, despite not having any foundation on the facts. As I already stated, she entered the hospital due to Covid. However, she died due to piss poor judgment. Take the time and actually read the details. Read her parent's journal. Her prognosis was remarkably better long before hear death. Alternative protocols could have put her on the path to heal at that junction. Instead, she was given a very harmful pathway, which included upping her medication (often switching it back to back) and she was continued to be intubated despite o2 levels that didn't justify intubation when an HFNC could have been used, which only caused further damage to her already damaged lungs. Blood thinners in conjunction with Intubation, much less ECMO which is super dangerous. It's a recipe for disaster. So, once again, did Covid cause her brain to massively bleed? No, it did not. That's just a fact. The brain bleed was caused by ECMO alongside heperin. An acute brain bleed was what killed her. The documentation on the risks associated with that particular "treatment", is extensive and clear. Quoting: Dr. Calhoun |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78309839 Switzerland 09/20/2020 03:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 28 YR Old Young Woman Declared A COVID-19 Death, Despite Dying Of A Brain Bleed Caused By High Risk Treatment.....The Medical System Is ROTTEN!!! I'm not sure what you're implying with that type of comment. This is a tragedy. Why? because her doctors should have advised her to immediately go on the Zelenko protocol upon initial symptoms, particularly if she encountered a higher viral load, which she likely did given that she treated patients herself. I cannot fathom why this was not done. Also, HFNC needs to replace intubation. Avoiding intubation and high dose blood thinners is key. Hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin + HFNC + High Dose + ZINC + Vitamin D Source: [link to www.uchicagomedicine.org (secure)] [link to www.preprints.org (secure)] The bottom line, for the people who do actually have Covid, is we're STILL not treating it correctly in the vast majority of patients. Covid didn't kill this patient. Covid opened the pathway to piss poor judgments, leading to unnecessary blood thinners and ECMO. The data is clear on intubation risks as well as on ECMO alongside heparin. I’m implying that there’s no way to know if either you or the woman in the story is an actual doctor. I agree with your treatment suggestions but could you please explain what the “Zelenko protocol”, HFNC, and ECMO is? Azithromycin has some terrible reactions in some people too. Also, perhaps the woman’s family or her herself requested the risky treatments? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79395937 United States 09/20/2020 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 28 YR Old Young Woman Declared A COVID-19 Death, Despite Dying Of A Brain Bleed Caused By High Risk Treatment.....The Medical System Is ROTTEN!!! Being a doctor and working at a hospital, she must have also received a flu shot which makes you more likely to get coronavirus. Death by hospital was inevitable |
Dr. Calhoun
(OP) User ID: 79052286 United States 09/20/2020 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 28 YR Old Young Woman Declared A COVID-19 Death, Despite Dying Of A Brain Bleed Caused By High Risk Treatment.....The Medical System Is ROTTEN!!! I’m implying that there’s no way to know if either you or the woman in the story is an actual doctor. I agree with your treatment suggestions but could you please explain what the “Zelenko protocol”, HFNC, and ECMO is? Azithromycin has some terrible reactions in some people too. Quoting: Lover_Girl Also, perhaps the woman’s family or her herself requested the risky treatments? I understand. Yes, I looked her up and it does appear that she was a doctor. I think the implications of either being a doctor (or having a family that equally trusts the medical system) definitely played into some of this. I think there's a tendency to throw everything possible at a patient, because there may a bit of an overzealous, unhealthy eagerness or confidence with all of the diagnostic equipment, machinery, drugs etc. It's like a guy who sells computers for a living and when he's at home he has 25 different computers, and he doesn't hesitate to assure you that he has a purpose for each and every one. The Zelenko protocol is Hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin + Zinc. To my knowledge, she was never given this at all. HFNC stands for "High-flow nasal cannulas" and you read more about that here: [link to www.uchicagomedicine.org (secure)] ECMO stands for "extracorporeal membrane oxygenation" and you read more about that here: [link to www.mayoclinic.org (secure)] I'm retired, which means I can now publicly reveal how few fucks I give without getting fired. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76711318 United States 09/20/2020 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 28 YR Old Young Woman Declared A COVID-19 Death, Despite Dying Of A Brain Bleed Caused By High Risk Treatment.....The Medical System Is ROTTEN!!! I’m implying that there’s no way to know if either you or the woman in the story is an actual doctor. I agree with your treatment suggestions but could you please explain what the “Zelenko protocol”, HFNC, and ECMO is? Azithromycin has some terrible reactions in some people too. Quoting: Lover_Girl Also, perhaps the woman’s family or her herself requested the risky treatments? I understand. Yes, I looked her up and it does appear that she was a doctor. I think the implications of either being a doctor (or having a family that equally trusts the medical system) definitely played into some of this. I think there's a tendency to throw everything possible at a patient, because there may a bit of an overzealous, unhealthy eagerness or confidence with all of the diagnostic equipment, machinery, drugs etc. It's like a guy who sells computers for a living and when he's at home he has 25 different computers, and he doesn't hesitate to assure you that he has a purpose for each and every one. The Zelenko protocol is Hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin + Zinc. To my knowledge, she was never given this at all. HFNC stands for "High-flow nasal cannulas" and you read more about that here: [link to www.uchicagomedicine.org (secure)] ECMO stands for "extracorporeal membrane oxygenation" and you read more about that here: [link to www.mayoclinic.org (secure)] lol thats actually a really good analogy |