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The Atlas Centaur that launched Surveyor 2 to the moon in 1966 will return to Earth orbit, temporarily

 
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This thread is stupid as fuk
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Says the idiot who tried to promote a Nibiru hoax. Screw you.
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This thread is stupid as fuk
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Yea until you become astromut. hf
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Pushed play >

Really cool, like a gyroscope. I'd love a 10' wall screen with satellite orbitals in live motion to watch.
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Pushed play >

Really cool, like a gyroscope. I'd love a 10' wall screen with satellite orbitals in live motion to watch.
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Yeah, really cool.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Astro!
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Will it come back again? Did you try leaving it running until 2074?
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So it turns out that a newly discovered asteroid, 2020 SO, is not actually an asteroid at all. Its orbit around the sun is curiously similar to Earth's orbit and integrating the orbit backwards shows that it was in Earth orbit back in September 1966.
[link to orbitsimulator.com]
That was when an Atlas Centaur sent the Surveyor 2 mission to the moon. It was supposed to softly land on the moon's surface, but a problem with a mid course correction sent it slamming into the moon instead. It will enter an unstable orbit around Earth for a few months before it likely drifts off back into solar orbit.
[link to orbitsimulator.com]
Special thanks to Tony Dunn for this orbit analysis.
 Quoting: Astromut


Well genius, if it crashed into the moon, WTF is it still doing in flying around in space?

Edit: Sonic is the Rocket that sent up and not the surveyor itself. Poorly written thread by Astro.
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Actually it was easily understandable what he said. Don’t blame your misunderstanding of it on him.
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Will it come back again? Did you try leaving it running until 2074?
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Once we get more data and the orbit is better refined I'll try to run it out over a longer time. It's still very early to look at that far in the future, I'm sure the monte carlo solutions would be a mess.
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WE'VE NEVER LEFT THE ATMOSPHERE.

FAKE NEWS.
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How do you explain satellites?

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So it turns out that a newly discovered asteroid, 2020 SO, is not actually an asteroid at all. Its orbit around the sun is curiously similar to Earth's orbit and integrating the orbit backwards shows that it was in Earth orbit back in September 1966.
[link to orbitsimulator.com]
That was when an Atlas Centaur sent the Surveyor 2 mission to the moon. It was supposed to softly land on the moon's surface, but a problem with a mid course correction sent it slamming into the moon instead. It will enter an unstable orbit around Earth for a few months before it likely drifts off back into solar orbit.
[link to orbitsimulator.com]
Special thanks to Tony Dunn for this orbit analysis.
 Quoting: Astromut


Fantastic. Do you think you'll be able to get a visual on it with your telescope and camera? I'd LOVE to see it.

Thank you so much, one for being a great astronomer, and second for being a great mod.

Cheers from Red Bluff California. :-)
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Another great thread Astro.

WE'VE NEVER LEFT THE ATMOSPHERE.

FAKE NEWS.
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 Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry


FUNNY THAT WITH A PLANET CRAWLING WITH MYRIAD LIFE FORMS OF EVERY CLASS AND SPECIES THERE ARE RETARDS ONLY INTERESTED IN COMMUNICATING WITH LIFEFORMS THAT EITHER DON'T EXIST OR ARE TOO FAR AWAY TO EVER MAKE CONTACT WITH.

YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AS FUCKED UP AS YOUR BELIEF IN "SPACE".

YOU'VE BEEN SWINDLED BY THE ESTABLISHMENT OUT OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A HOAX AND YOU SWALLOWED IT HOOK, LINE AND SINKER.
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You're obviously triggered by my thread, screaming in all caps because we have found an old rocket that was launched away from earth more than 50 years ago and has finally come back around the sun and is returning to earth orbit.
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But what is it doing there? Those old rockets used to fall back into the ocean or something.
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I hope there is sufficient resolution to see how pock marked the poor thing must be now after spending all that time in space.
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No. It will be much too far to resolve as more than a point-like light source at close approach.
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Too bad. And we won't be able to see if aliens have moved into the Centaur. It might be furnished and even repainted, and we will never know. LOL
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If they are black, there is probably hoes in it too.
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So it turns out that a newly discovered asteroid, 2020 SO, is not actually an asteroid at all. Its orbit around the sun is curiously similar to Earth's orbit and integrating the orbit backwards shows that it was in Earth orbit back in September 1966.
[link to orbitsimulator.com]

 Quoting: Astromut

How does it work?
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FUNNY THAT WITH A PLANET CRAWLING WITH MYRIAD LIFE FORMS OF EVERY CLASS AND SPECIES THERE ARE RETARDS ONLY INTERESTED IN COMMUNICATING WITH LIFEFORMS THAT EITHER DON'T EXIST OR ARE TOO FAR AWAY TO EVER MAKE CONTACT WITH.

YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AS FUCKED UP AS YOUR BELIEF IN "SPACE".

YOU'VE BEEN SWINDLED BY THE ESTABLISHMENT OUT OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A HOAX AND YOU SWALLOWED IT HOOK, LINE AND SINKER.
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You're obviously triggered by my thread, screaming in all caps because we have found an old rocket that was launched away from earth more than 50 years ago and has finally come back around the sun and is returning to earth orbit.
 Quoting: Astromut

But what is it doing there? Those old rockets used to fall back into the ocean or something.
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You do realize that rockets generally have multiple stages, right? The Centaur is the upper stage of the rocket, not the first stage. Atlas back then used to drop off excess engines into the ocean mid-launch, a kind of half-staging to reduce the "dry mass" of the rocket on its way to orbit.
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So it turns out that a newly discovered asteroid, 2020 SO, is not actually an asteroid at all. Its orbit around the sun is curiously similar to Earth's orbit and integrating the orbit backwards shows that it was in Earth orbit back in September 1966.
[link to orbitsimulator.com]
That was when an Atlas Centaur sent the Surveyor 2 mission to the moon. It was supposed to softly land on the moon's surface, but a problem with a mid course correction sent it slamming into the moon instead. It will enter an unstable orbit around Earth for a few months before it likely drifts off back into solar orbit.
[link to orbitsimulator.com]
Special thanks to Tony Dunn for this orbit analysis.
 Quoting: Astromut


Fantastic. Do you think you'll be able to get a visual on it with your telescope and camera? I'd LOVE to see it.

Thank you so much, one for being a great astronomer, and second for being a great mod.

Cheers from Red Bluff California. :-)
 Quoting: JoeNobHead

That's the plan, I should be able to track it and stream it in late November.
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And men walked on the moon! Six times! Six whole times!!!
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And men walked on the moon! Six times! Six whole times!!!
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Yes. You have a problem with it? Too bad, it was one of America's greatest accomplishments.
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FUNNY THAT WITH A PLANET CRAWLING WITH MYRIAD LIFE FORMS OF EVERY CLASS AND SPECIES THERE ARE RETARDS ONLY INTERESTED IN COMMUNICATING WITH LIFEFORMS THAT EITHER DON'T EXIST OR ARE TOO FAR AWAY TO EVER MAKE CONTACT WITH.

YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AS FUCKED UP AS YOUR BELIEF IN "SPACE".

YOU'VE BEEN SWINDLED BY THE ESTABLISHMENT OUT OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A HOAX AND YOU SWALLOWED IT HOOK, LINE AND SINKER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79204899


You're obviously triggered by my thread, screaming in all caps because we have found an old rocket that was launched away from earth more than 50 years ago and has finally come back around the sun and is returning to earth orbit.
 Quoting: Astromut

But what is it doing there? Those old rockets used to fall back into the ocean or something.
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You do realize that rockets generally have multiple stages, right? The Centaur is the upper stage of the rocket, not the first stage. Atlas back then used to drop off excess engines into the ocean mid-launch, a kind of half-staging to reduce the "dry mass" of the rocket on its way to orbit.
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Well I dunno. Did they always have several stages? I seem to remember there were 3 stages with the capsule on top, or is this incorrect?

So the Centaur is not the whole rocket in fact, just its last stage? But even so, everything apart from the capsule was supposed to drop into the ocean, wasn't it?
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You're obviously triggered by my thread, screaming in all caps because we have found an old rocket that was launched away from earth more than 50 years ago and has finally come back around the sun and is returning to earth orbit.
 Quoting: Astromut

But what is it doing there? Those old rockets used to fall back into the ocean or something.
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You do realize that rockets generally have multiple stages, right? The Centaur is the upper stage of the rocket, not the first stage. Atlas back then used to drop off excess engines into the ocean mid-launch, a kind of half-staging to reduce the "dry mass" of the rocket on its way to orbit.
 Quoting: Astromut

Well I dunno. Did they always have several stages? I seem to remember there were 3 stages with the capsule on top, or is this incorrect?

So the Centaur is not the whole rocket in fact, just its last stage? But even so, everything apart from the capsule was supposed to drop into the ocean, wasn't it?
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Well I just described the basics of the Atlas Centaur design. Atlas was the first stage (stage and a half) and Centaur was the upper stage of that rocket. See this diagram:
[link to history.nasa.gov (secure)]
The Centaur and payload reached orbit, the Centaur continued past the moon into solar orbit and it's now coming back around by earth over 50 years later.
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 Quoting: Astromut


Pushed play >

Really cool, like a gyroscope. I'd love a 10' wall screen with satellite orbitals in live motion to watch.
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ohyeah
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so it went to the sun, then back here, then back to space

ok

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so it went to the sun, then back here, then back to space

ok

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Yes. Orbital mechanics.
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Re: The Atlas Centaur that launched Surveyor 2 to the moon in 1966 will return to Earth orbit, temporarily
Just an update, there was an opportunity to track it this past weekend, but when I woke up at 1 am to go do it I found the weather was completely cloudy. I'll have another opportunity in late January, hopefully the weather plays along.
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Re: The Atlas Centaur that launched Surveyor 2 to the moon in 1966 will return to Earth orbit, temporarily
WE'VE NEVER LEFT THE ATMOSPHERE.

FAKE NEWS.
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:thisshit:
 Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry


FUNNY THAT WITH A PLANET CRAWLING WITH MYRIAD LIFE FORMS OF EVERY CLASS AND SPECIES THERE ARE RETARDS ONLY INTERESTED IN COMMUNICATING WITH LIFEFORMS THAT EITHER DON'T EXIST OR ARE TOO FAR AWAY TO EVER MAKE CONTACT WITH.

YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AS FUCKED UP AS YOUR BELIEF IN "SPACE".

YOU'VE BEEN SWINDLED BY THE ESTABLISHMENT OUT OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A HOAX AND YOU SWALLOWED IT HOOK, LINE AND SINKER.
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epiclol
Triggered!
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WE'VE NEVER LEFT THE ATMOSPHERE.

FAKE NEWS.
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Wrong. Here's another object put into a deep space trajectory by a centaur upper stage:


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WE'VE NEVER LEFT THE ATMOSPHERE.

FAKE NEWS.
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Wrong. Here's another object put into a deep space trajectory by a centaur upper stage:

 Quoting: Astromut


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WE'VE NEVER LEFT THE ATMOSPHERE.

FAKE NEWS.
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:thisshit:
 Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry


FUNNY THAT WITH A PLANET CRAWLING WITH MYRIAD LIFE FORMS OF EVERY CLASS AND SPECIES THERE ARE RETARDS ONLY INTERESTED IN COMMUNICATING WITH LIFEFORMS THAT EITHER DON'T EXIST OR ARE TOO FAR AWAY TO EVER MAKE CONTACT WITH.

YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AS FUCKED UP AS YOUR BELIEF IN "SPACE".

YOU'VE BEEN SWINDLED BY THE ESTABLISHMENT OUT OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A HOAX AND YOU SWALLOWED IT HOOK, LINE AND SINKER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79204899


You're obviously triggered by my thread, screaming in all caps because we have found an old rocket that was launched away from earth more than 50 years ago and has finally come back around the sun and is returning to earth orbit. It all traces back to when it first left Earth in September 1966 and it proves we went a lot farther than the atmosphere, even back then, just as NASA said. I pity you, it must suck to see your entire worldview crumbling before your eyes from such a simple discovery.
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WHAT YOU CANNOT PROVE IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TO THE MOON!!!!!!

Your a bald face lied dog soilder!
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FUNNY THAT WITH A PLANET CRAWLING WITH MYRIAD LIFE FORMS OF EVERY CLASS AND SPECIES THERE ARE RETARDS ONLY INTERESTED IN COMMUNICATING WITH LIFEFORMS THAT EITHER DON'T EXIST OR ARE TOO FAR AWAY TO EVER MAKE CONTACT WITH.

YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AS FUCKED UP AS YOUR BELIEF IN "SPACE".

YOU'VE BEEN SWINDLED BY THE ESTABLISHMENT OUT OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A HOAX AND YOU SWALLOWED IT HOOK, LINE AND SINKER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79204899


You're obviously triggered by my thread, screaming in all caps because we have found an old rocket that was launched away from earth more than 50 years ago and has finally come back around the sun and is returning to earth orbit. It all traces back to when it first left Earth in September 1966 and it proves we went a lot farther than the atmosphere, even back then, just as NASA said. I pity you, it must suck to see your entire worldview crumbling before your eyes from such a simple discovery.
 Quoting: Astromut


WHAT YOU CANNOT PROVE IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TO THE MOON!!!!!!

Your a bald face lied dog soilder!
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Wrong.
[link to pages.astronomy.ua.edu (secure)]
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WE'VE NEVER LEFT THE ATMOSPHERE.

FAKE NEWS.
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