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Anyone remember the "Be" Operating System (BeOS) ?? | |
| AkashicRecord®
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 79385721  United States09/23/2020 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This was back around the time of the late '90s as desktop computers were rarely exceeding 200MHz and multiple processors were mostly only found in servers (unless you had $1200 to spend on a single processor!) Multiple-core architectures were still a somewhat distant wet dream for engineers; yet one company stepped up to the plate to realize the coming times.. But this market was not hardware nor was it really "software." Apple was in the market to find something to replace the ailing Classic MacOS; looking for something fresh going forward into the new decade (post Y2K madness) and Microsoft was literally scared shitless of this operating system and its possible potential. (This is obviously where the real conspiracy begins in this tale...) Linux was finally no longer a college project / assignment and was starting to gain rapid traction as a server OS, yet with hopes and dreams of delivering an end-user desktop experience devoid of the "standard" and accepted (read: expected) litany of commercial licensing and closed-source nonsense that was ever so present and forced down consumers' throats; much to the chagrin of us all... It was here that Be realized the need, the market, and the value of a true "media" operating system, literally as the internet itself was unfolding...and in rapid succession at that. This need for a capable operating system was also met with a strict requirement for performance, elegance, and stability among all other things...   UPDATE: We have been discussing the spiritual successor to BeOS, named Haiku, later in this thread. Here's a link to the Frequently Asked Questions on the Haiku site: [link to www.haiku-os.org (secure)] Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 09/25/2020 08:37 PM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/23/2020 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apple ultimately chose *NOT* to go with the Be OS, and instead settled on NeXT and the NeXTStep Operating System...but why? Apple also reinstated the then-shitcanned Steve Jobs...a wise move, at least from that portion of the perspective. The price was relatively dirt-cheap, and later Be would be subsumed by the Palm company (I really *hated* those devices) for the rather fine sum of about $11 million USD... This was almost orders of magnitude over Apple's offering, but it didn't exactly "work." Why is that?  Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 09/23/2020 10:45 AM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/23/2020 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You'll have to rewind a couple decades (if you were even born yet) to appreciate this tech demo of the BeOS on ..almost.. cutting-edge hardware of the time. [link to youtu.be (secure)] Having two processors on-the-cheap back then was not something easily attainable. There was a slotted Pentium II riser card that could be soldered/jumped to "restore" hidden symmetric multi-processor functionality which was deliberately sabotaged by Intel (for cost) on consumer-grade chips. I used to run dual 333MHz [overclocked] processors back when everyone else only had a single 166-233 MHz proc... BeOS would have been a godsend on that setup... Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 09/23/2020 11:12 AM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71895654 United Kingdom09/23/2020 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You'll have to rewind a couple decades (if you were even born yet) to appreciate this tech demo of the BeOS on ..almost.. cutting-edge hardware of the time. Quoting: AkashicRecord® [link to youtu.be (secure)] Having two processors on-the-cheap back then was not something easily attainable. There was a slotted Pentium II riser card that could be soldered/jumped to "restore" hidden symmetric multi-processor functionality which was deliberately sabotaged by Intel (for cost) on consumer-grade chips. I used to run dual 333MHz [overclocked] processors back when everyone else only had a single 166-233 MHz proc... BeOS would have been a godsend on that setup... i still have a couple of pentium 2's 333 and 350 mhs here had a supermicro dual slot board at one point worked on rambus memory. i 've also got a first edition p90 gold plated that i've owned since new |
| Anubis
User ID: 4949345  Canada09/23/2020 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | have you been following the haiku project? Haiku’s 32-bit installation is binary-compatible with BeOS R5, which means applications designed for BeOS R5 will run. [link to www.haiku-os.org (secure)] What is Haiku? HAIKU is an open source operating system currently in development. Specifically targeting personal computing, Haiku is a fast, efficient, simple to use, easy to learn, and yet very powerful system for computer users of all levels. Additionally, Haiku offers something over other open source platforms which is quite unique: The project consists of a single team writing everything from the kernel, drivers, userland services, tool kit, and graphics stack to the included desktop applications and preflets. While numerous open source projects are utilized in Haiku, they are integrated seamlessly. This allows Haiku to achieve a level of consistency that provides many conveniences, and is truly enjoyable to use by both end-users and developers alike. Last Edited by Anubis on 09/23/2020 11:22 AM |
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| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/23/2020 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sure do! i was quite sad when the project was abandoned. Quoting: Anubis have you been following the haiku project? [link to www.haiku-os.org (secure)] What is Haiku? HAIKU is an open source operating system currently in development. Specifically targeting personal computing, Haiku is a fast, efficient, simple to use, easy to learn, and yet very powerful system for computer users of all levels. Additionally, Haiku offers something over other open source platforms which is quite unique: The project consists of a single team writing everything from the kernel, drivers, userland services, tool kit, and graphics stack to the included desktop applications and preflets. While numerous open source projects are utilized in Haiku, they are integrated seamlessly. This allows Haiku to achieve a level of consistency that provides many conveniences, and is truly enjoyable to use by both end-users and developers alike. Absolutely! I use it almost every day now! (It was kind of the reason for the thread :) I've been following that project for almost its entire conception, and have been quite impressed with everything to date...its almost been 20 years!!! That project has come a long way, and I'm not even using "good" hardware for any of it...just a few I3 and I5 Dell machines that I literally saved from going into a dumpster (at work.) I've compiled numerous source packages without much issue, and wow, the fact that DOSBox is so flawless on here, I can't find a better / cheap / free entry back into that world of retro computing if I even tried. The project is really impressive now...minus "modern" hardware driver support... I never thought I'd be able to browse GLP and play YouTube embeds with Haiku on real hardware... Usually virtualization is the easiest and most compatible method of entry here... Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/23/2020 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i remember playing several audio files at once, a task windows at that time was unable to accomplish Quoting: Dalek Uno 79410154  Were you still shitting in diapers when Windows Me (and Windows 2000) were on the horizon? Or were you programming in assembly language for multiple platforms in the military (like I was?)  Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| Dalek Uno User ID: 79410154 Germany09/23/2020 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i remember playing several audio files at once, a task windows at that time was unable to accomplish Quoting: Dalek Uno 79410154 Were you still shitting in diapers when Windows Me (and Windows 2000) were on the horizon? Or were you programming in assembly language for multiple platforms in the military (like I was?) only testing SuseLinux, BeOS and FreeBSD on a 333 Mhz Pentium 2. It was quite a chore to get the sound in the kernel to work. Never managed to install modules correctly. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78535068 United States09/23/2020 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I interned at a company that got acquired by Palm in college and we used to mess around with that OS hoping to make something of it that would catch on commercially. Seemed like we were always on the cusp but nothing that would gain traction and take on Microsoft, sad day when I got let go and the 'stock options' I was getting paid in went up in smoke. I did manage to leave with enough palm pilots to see to friends and make it worth my while though. |
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| We Who Watch.
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71895654 United Kingdom09/23/2020 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I interned at a company that got acquired by Palm in college and we used to mess around with that OS hoping to make something of it that would catch on commercially. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78535068 Seemed like we were always on the cusp but nothing that would gain traction and take on Microsoft, sad day when I got let go and the 'stock options' I was getting paid in went up in smoke. I did manage to leave with enough palm pilots to see to friends and make it worth my while though. palm pilots. lol the nostalgia. |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/23/2020 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Microsoft basically killed it. I believe Be got something (not enough) in return, but the jist was that M$ was making threats for increased licensing costs for vendors that would ship / support a 3rd-party OS. Palm (and later Access) scooped up the I.P. and (mostly) let it rot. Some vendors, like Tascam, used BeOS under the hood in professional recording hardware... Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77952124 United States09/23/2020 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had an one speed read only CD player in my Intel 80386DX 16 MHz processor with a gray ceramic heat spreader. radio shack had one on sale for 899.00...1990 During the 1990s, CD-ROMs were popularly used to distribute software and data for computers and fifth generation video game consoles. Some CDs, called enhanced CDs, hold both computer data and audio with the latter capable of being played on a CD player, while data (such as software or digital video) is only usable on a computer (such as ISO 9660[1] format PC CD-ROMs). |
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| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/23/2020 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I interned at a company that got acquired by Palm in college and we used to mess around with that OS hoping to make something of it that would catch on commercially. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78535068 Seemed like we were always on the cusp but nothing that would gain traction and take on Microsoft, sad day when I got let go and the 'stock options' I was getting paid in went up in smoke. I did manage to leave with enough palm pilots to see to friends and make it worth my while though. palm pilots. lol the nostalgia. I was given one at work (a Palm Pilot III, if I recall) and could not for the life of me get used to the strange 'grafitti' strokes you had to use to input text.. Horrible! Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
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| Cap’n Obvious
User ID: 78963999 United States09/23/2020 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i remember playing several audio files at once, a task windows at that time was unable to accomplish Quoting: Dalek Uno 79410154 Were you still shitting in diapers when Windows Me (and Windows 2000) were on the horizon? Or were you programming in assembly language for multiple platforms in the military (like I was?) You sound like a kid... I am an old IBM 360 assembler programmer.... COBOL, RPG.. moved into rhe micro computer realm in the mid-80s and never looked back. When I started... I used punch cards. Even after I moved up to a terminal I still had to maintain my old code that was on cards up to the day I left. Actually, the day I handed in my resignation they took my terminal away and handed me several change orders, all on punch cards, because I was the last guy there who could do it. I was 22 and had been there almost four years. There being working for the state of Kansas. ;-) Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79409689  Singapore09/23/2020 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeh i actually bought a copy for my it company to test it out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71895654 was really dissapointed when they canned it. a few years ago i looked into it again and there was a newer version, booted it up but not much had changed. I downloaded that, around 2010 maybe. Checked it out a bit but never used it. |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/23/2020 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeh i actually bought a copy for my it company to test it out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71895654 was really dissapointed when they canned it. a few years ago i looked into it again and there was a newer version, booted it up but not much had changed. Same here, but they have been making good strides as of late. Only a couple months ago did the most recent beta come forth, but so did nightly source builds as well. Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 09/23/2020 11:57 AM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| Piltwort
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| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/23/2020 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i remember playing several audio files at once, a task windows at that time was unable to accomplish Quoting: Dalek Uno 79410154 Were you still shitting in diapers when Windows Me (and Windows 2000) were on the horizon? Or were you programming in assembly language for multiple platforms in the military (like I was?) You sound like a kid... I am an old IBM 360 assembler programmer.... COBOL, RPG.. moved into rhe micro computer realm in the mid-80s and never looked back. When I started... I used punch cards. Even after I moved up to a terminal I still had to maintain my old code that was on cards up to the day I left. Actually, the day I handed in my resignation they took my terminal away and handed me several change orders, all on punch cards, because I was the last guy there who could do it. I was 22 and had been there almost four years. There being working for the state of Kansas. ;-) Sure, I'll take that... 43 is the new 23 anyway :) I started with "Trash-80s" aka: Radio Shack TRS-80s, running off cassette(s) in the early 80's.. Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
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