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Armenia and Azerbaijan WAR! Stepanakert under Azeri fire now! pg 149

 
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You will care if / when the US decides to intervene.
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Why would they? I don't know of any US territories in the region.

Unless Faildogan is asking them to.
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could he use article 5 to draw nato in if russia intervenes and clashes erupt between turkey and russia?
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He can't use art. 5.


It is pretty clear how and when art.5 can be activated, and the case of a NATO country intervening in another country is not subject to art.5.
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You will care if / when the US decides to intervene.
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Why would they? I don't know of any US territories in the region.

Unless Faildogan is asking them to.
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No not because of Turkey.


When this conflict reaches a point to where it threatens Israel's security , then the US will have to commit.

Or simply abandon Israel to fend for itself after angering all the Muslim countries with those recent peace treaties and essentially solidifying the pro-Israel versus pro-Muslim sentiment and creating two opposing factions in the Middle East.
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I pray for the day the US stops "supporting" us - it would mean no more taking orders from the US, and it means all the CIA agents in the knesset get the noose.
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You will care if / when the US decides to intervene.
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Why would they? I don't know of any US territories in the region.

Unless Faildogan is asking them to.
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could he use article 5 to draw nato in if russia intervenes and clashes erupt between turkey and russia?
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He can't use art. 5.


It is pretty clear how and when art.5 can be activated, and the case of a NATO country intervening in another country is not subject to art.5.
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Ok... the go putin!! make some kebabs!
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Azerbaijan MoD releases video reportedly showing drone attacks on Armenian military equipment positions

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You will care if / when the US decides to intervene.
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Why would they? I don't know of any US territories in the region.

Unless Faildogan is asking them to.
 Quoting: Concorde Warrior F-BVFA


No not because of Turkey.


When this conflict reaches a point to where it threatens Israel's security , then the US will have to commit.

Or simply abandon Israel to fend for itself after angering all the Muslim countries with those recent peace treaties and essentially solidifying the pro-Israel versus pro-Muslim sentiment and creating two opposing factions in the Middle East.
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I pray for the day the US stops "supporting" us - it would mean no more taking orders from the US, and it means all the CIA agents in the knesset get the noose.
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It has indeed done more harm than any good that might have come from such.


And every nation is guilty of course. But God stays true to His Word always.
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There is a WWIII prophecy about this region. Can't find it so fast. Anyone?
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There is a WWIII prophecy about this region. Can't find it so fast. Anyone?
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Ezekiel 38:1-17

Now the word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him, and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords. Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops—many people are with you.

“Prepare yourself and be ready, you and all your companies that are gathered about you; and be a guard for them. After many days you will be visited. In the latter years you will come into the land of those brought back from the sword and gathered from many people on the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate; they were brought out of the nations, and now all of them dwell safely. You will ascend, coming like a storm, covering the land like a cloud, you and all your troops and many peoples with you.”

‘Thus says the Lord God: “On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan: You will say, ‘I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates’— to take plunder and to take booty, to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, and against a people gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land. Sheba, Dedan, the merchants of Tarshish, and all their young lions will say to you, ‘Have you come to take plunder? Have you gathered your army to take booty, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to take great plunder?’ ” ’

“Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On that day when My people Israel dwell safely, will you not know it? Then you will come from your place out of the far north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great company and a mighty army. You will come up against My people Israel like a cloud, to cover the land. It will be in the latter days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me, when I am hallowed in you, O Gog, before their eyes.” Thus says the Lord God: “Are you he of whom I have spoken in former days by My servants the prophets of Israel, who prophesied for years in those days that I would bring you against them?



And the answer is no.

Which is why when this happens - God is going to make Himself known.
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This is the kind of unexpected stuff that escalates into a major issue.
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Two years ago was the same.
Repeat upon repeat. Just see.

Azeri & Armenian protesters clash in London as tensions between neighbors continue to mount (VIDEO)

An Azerbaijani protest outside Armenia's embassy in London became heated after being met with a counter-rally of Armenians living in the British capital, amid a major escalation between the two former Soviet republics.

The demonstrators, carrying their country's national flags, stood on opposite sides of the road on Friday, chanting slogans. However, at some point an exchange in insults transitioned into a physical altercation, with the police forced to intervene.

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What have Armenia and Azerbaijan got to fight about?
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100 years ago Stalin gave some land of Armenia to Azerbaijan and the Azerbaijan won't give it back, And the Armenians are too stupid to just pack up and move back to Armenia.
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If their country is invaded, real men defend it, they don't just move somewhere else to live as refugees.
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This has nothing to do with Ezekiel 38-39.

Chillax.

Start worrying about Ezekiel when Russia subjugates Turkey and then forms a coalition against Israel.
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This has nothing to do with Ezekiel 38-39.

Chillax.

Start worrying about Ezekiel when Russia subjugates Turkey and then forms a coalition against Israel.
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And here is a map of the world as known back then.

Silly mods banning me for stating Ezekiel 38.

It's the destruction of the armies of Gog and Magog.
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This has nothing to do with Ezekiel 38-39. Chillax. Start worrying about Ezekiel when Russia subjugates Turkey and then forms a coalition against Israel.
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What are you talking about??

Turkey has already formed a coalition against Israel.

Turkey and Russia are BOTH working with Iran.

Turkey was attacking the PKK in Iraq, WITH Iran, only a couple weeks ago.
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This has nothing to do with Ezekiel 38-39. Chillax. Start worrying about Ezekiel when Russia subjugates Turkey and then forms a coalition against Israel.
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What are you talking about??

Turkey has already formed a coalition against Israel.

Turkey and Russia are BOTH working with Iran.

Turkey was attacking the PKK in Iraq, WITH Iran, only a couple weeks ago.
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Read Ezekiel 38-39

Turkey doesn't lead the coalition of gog and magog, gog (russia) does.

Turkey is Togramah, which is under the control of gog (russia)

Prepare for Ezekiel 38-39 once Russia takes constantinople, or at least brings Turkey under its' thumb.
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What have Armenia and Azerbaijan got to fight about?
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Oh and the Rabbi who predicted WW2 also predicted WW3 / Gog and Magog this year.

Predicted it would start around summer and we literally just entered fall.

One of the most influential rabbis of the last century gave a prophecy in his final days: a third war, greater than any other before it will come 75 years after the end of World War II. The deadline for that prediction is only a few months away.

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This has nothing to do with Ezekiel 38-39. Chillax. Start worrying about Ezekiel when Russia subjugates Turkey and then forms a coalition against Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79422915
What are you talking about?? Turkey has already formed a coalition against Israel. Turkey and Russia are BOTH working with Iran. Turkey was attacking the PKK in Iraq, WITH Iran, only a couple weeks ago.
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Read Ezekiel 38-39 Turkey doesn't lead the coalition of gog and magog, gog (russia) does. Turkey is Togramah, which is under the control of gog (russia) Prepare for Ezekiel 38-39 once Russia takes constantinople, or at least brings Turkey under its' thumb.
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Gog and Magog is not Russia.

Rosh = Russia

Even renown Rabbi said it would happen this year

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There is no one in particular who "heads" the Gog and Magog

It is a demon

These people think they are the ones making the decisions but really they are only be led by their ambitions.


And it will likely cause the Revelations prophecy regarding the blood of the Euphrates drying up and allowing the way for the kings of the East
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Go Armenia~~!!!
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This has nothing to do with Ezekiel 38-39. Chillax. Start worrying about Ezekiel when Russia subjugates Turkey and then forms a coalition against Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79422915
What are you talking about?? Turkey has already formed a coalition against Israel. Turkey and Russia are BOTH working with Iran. Turkey was attacking the PKK in Iraq, WITH Iran, only a couple weeks ago.
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Read Ezekiel 38-39 Turkey doesn't lead the coalition of gog and magog, gog (russia) does. Turkey is Togramah, which is under the control of gog (russia) Prepare for Ezekiel 38-39 once Russia takes constantinople, or at least brings Turkey under its' thumb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79422915



Gog and Magog is not Russia.

Rosh = Russia

Even renown Rabbi said it would happen this year

[link to www.israel365news.com (secure)]


There is no one in particular who "heads" the Gog and Magog

It is a demon

These people think they are the ones making the decisions but really they are only be led by their ambitions.


And it will likely cause the Revelations prophecy regarding the blood of the Euphrates drying up and allowing the way for the kings of the East
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77384531


Rosh gog magog, all areas in russia.

This could be the war that gives Russia the opportunity to subjugate turkey, but gog and magog happens only after turkey is subjugated.
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What are you talking about?? Turkey has already formed a coalition against Israel. Turkey and Russia are BOTH working with Iran. Turkey was attacking the PKK in Iraq, WITH Iran, only a couple weeks ago.
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Read Ezekiel 38-39 Turkey doesn't lead the coalition of gog and magog, gog (russia) does. Turkey is Togramah, which is under the control of gog (russia) Prepare for Ezekiel 38-39 once Russia takes constantinople, or at least brings Turkey under its' thumb.
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Gog and Magog is not Russia. Rosh = Russia Even renown Rabbi said it would happen this year [link to www.israel365news.com (secure)] There is no one in particular who "heads" the Gog and Magog It is a demon These people think they are the ones making the decisions but really they are only be led by their ambitions. And it will likely cause the Revelations prophecy regarding the blood of the Euphrates drying up and allowing the way for the kings of the East
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Rosh gog magog, all areas in russia. This could be the war that gives Russia the opportunity to subjugate turkey, but gog and magog happens only after turkey is subjugated.
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That subjugation part is only Nostradamus prophecy

There is nothing , even in the Torah , which suggests Russia is going to subjugate Turkey

If anything , they are both going to get it in their heads that the problem isn't with each other.
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Read Ezekiel 38-39 Turkey doesn't lead the coalition of gog and magog, gog (russia) does. Turkey is Togramah, which is under the control of gog (russia) Prepare for Ezekiel 38-39 once Russia takes constantinople, or at least brings Turkey under its' thumb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79422915
Gog and Magog is not Russia. Rosh = Russia Even renown Rabbi said it would happen this year [link to www.israel365news.com (secure)] There is no one in particular who "heads" the Gog and Magog It is a demon These people think they are the ones making the decisions but really they are only be led by their ambitions. And it will likely cause the Revelations prophecy regarding the blood of the Euphrates drying up and allowing the way for the kings of the East
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Rosh gog magog, all areas in russia. This could be the war that gives Russia the opportunity to subjugate turkey, but gog and magog happens only after turkey is subjugated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79422915



That subjugation part is only Nostradamus prophecy

There is nothing , even in the Torah , which suggests Russia is going to subjugate Turkey

If anything , they are both going to get it in their heads that the problem isn't with each other.
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Possible.

Rabbi Elijah of Vilna (also known as the Vilna Gaon) is a ((()))ish scholar from the 18th century well known for his writings about the coming of the Messiah. Shortly before his death, the Vilna Gaon said,

“When you hear that the Russians have captured the city of Crimea, you should know that the times of the Messiah have started, that his steps are being heard. And when you hear that the Russians have reached the city of Constantinople, you should put on your Shabbat clothes and don’t take them off, because it means that the Messiah is about to come any minute.”

It is clear from Ezekiel 38-39 that turkey joins russia against Israel.
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Gog and Magog is not Russia. Rosh = Russia Even renown Rabbi said it would happen this year [link to www.israel365news.com (secure)] There is no one in particular who "heads" the Gog and Magog It is a demon These people think they are the ones making the decisions but really they are only be led by their ambitions. And it will likely cause the Revelations prophecy regarding the blood of the Euphrates drying up and allowing the way for the kings of the East
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Rosh gog magog, all areas in russia. This could be the war that gives Russia the opportunity to subjugate turkey, but gog and magog happens only after turkey is subjugated.
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That subjugation part is only Nostradamus prophecy There is nothing , even in the Torah , which suggests Russia is going to subjugate Turkey If anything , they are both going to get it in their heads that the problem isn't with each other.
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Possible. Rabbi Elijah of Vilna (also known as the Vilna Gaon) is a ((()))ish scholar from the 18th century well known for his writings about the coming of the Messiah. Shortly before his death, the Vilna Gaon said, “When you hear that the Russians have captured the city of Crimea, you should know that the times of the Messiah have started, that his steps are being heard. And when you hear that the Russians have reached the city of Constantinople, you should put on your Shabbat clothes and don’t take them off, because it means that the Messiah is about to come any minute.” It is clear from Ezekiel 38-39 that turkey joins russia against Israel.
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Now see , they did capture Crimea , but the second part doesn't specifically say they are going to capture the city of Constantinople - only reach it.

When looking at Istanbul , the strategic importance is that if Turkey wanted too, they could cut off Russia's entire Black Sea fleet by simply blockading Istanbul.

This would be fiercely resisted by Russia of course and certainly give clause to attempt to take Istanbul for the sake of reopening that transit.

But yes , that seems it's more likely for sake of avoiding mutually assured destruction at that point , they both would turn face elsewhere and make a new enemy and Turkey would acquiesce which Russia would oblige.
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Azerbaijan Defence Ministry announces control (allegedly) over another village: Aşağı Əbdürrəhmanlı

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Social media and communications platforms restricted across Azerbaijan following clashes with Armenia over Nagorno-Karabakh; real-time internet measurement data show impact to cellular / fixed-lines; incident ongoing

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Azerbaijani Ministry of Defence says they are offering surrender to Ağdərə/Martakert garrison: "If there is resistance, every armed person will be neutralized by us"


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Azerbaijan Defence Ministry announces control (allegedly) over another village: Aşağı Əbdürrəhmanlı




Social media and communications platforms restricted across Azerbaijan following clashes with Armenia over Nagorno-Karabakh; real-time internet measurement data show impact to cellular / fixed-lines; incident ongoing




Azerbaijani Ministry of Defence says they are offering surrender to Ağdərə/Martakert garrison: "If there is resistance, every armed person will be neutralized by us"



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This is the kind of unexpected stuff that escalates into a major issue.
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armenia is traditionally backed by russia and azerbaijan is backed by the mullahs in general.

reason why armenia still exists is because the russians de facto guarantee its independence.
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New massive clashes between #Armenia & #Azerbaijan do alert me. I call on the parties to immediately stop all acts of fighting & especially the shelling of villages & cities. The conflict over the #NagornoKarabakh region can only be resolved through negotiations. - FM @HeikoMaas

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This has nothing to do with Ezekiel 38-39. Chillax. Start worrying about Ezekiel when Russia subjugates Turkey and then forms a coalition against Israel.
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What are you talking about??

Turkey has already formed a coalition against Israel.

Turkey and Russia are BOTH working with Iran.

Turkey was attacking the PKK in Iraq, WITH Iran, only a couple weeks ago.
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Read Ezekiel 38-39

Turkey doesn't lead the coalition of gog and magog, gog (russia) does.

Turkey is Togramah, which is under the control of gog (russia)

Prepare for Ezekiel 38-39 once Russia takes constantinople, or at least brings Turkey under its' thumb.
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Shtuyoth!

Gog and Magog are the guardian demons of the City of London Financial district, headquarters of the Rothschild banking empire. The Worshipful Society of Basketmakers creates huge wicker idols of Gog and Magog ever November and they are paraded in the Lord Mayor's show (but not this year because of Covid) accompanied by units of the British army.

After Lord Balfour wrote his famous declaration of intent to Baron Rothschild, an army was assembled from all the nations in Ezekiel's prophecy - Russia, Germany, Poland, Ukraine, Persia, North Africa, Ethiopia, and Turkey and it was called Tzava Haganah L'Yisrael, the IDF.

The fusion of cultural currents gave them some of the greatest army entertainment troupes in the world, the latest being the Idan Raichel project.

In my youth, I danced with Ofra Haza on the shores of Galilee, when she came to visit our unit.


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On the video from #Azerbaijan, possibly, islamist terrorists from #Syria and #Libya, backed by #Turkey. Ilham Aliyev's regime is trying to use terrorists in the war against #Karabakh and #Armenia
#ArtsakhStrong


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#Armenia sends BM-30 smerch system to the #Karabakh - video

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#Azerbaijan, using mil. aircraft, #UAV's, armored vehicles& artillery, attacks various parts of Artsakh frontline.
#DefenceArmy vanguard units successfully repel all enemy attacks.According to verified information,the Azerbaijani AF lost 2helicopters,14 UAV's.The battles continue


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