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Armenia and Azerbaijan WAR! Stepanakert under Azeri fire now! pg 149

 
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In the meantime, Armenia on Sept. 27 declared martial law and a military mobilization over the heavy clashes.

"The government has decided to declare martial law and a total mobilization," Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan wrote on Facebook.

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With respect to Armenia and Russia's relations with them - typically couched in religious terms - it may come out that Putin tactically signed off on Erdogan's re=opening Hagia Sophia as a mosque just to spite the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople whom the Russian Orthodox have broken ties with. Russia, once in a position to claim the mantle of 'defender of Christendom', has effectively placed itself too close to Turkey and Erdogan in crass efforts to 'stop conflict' - only to see their past claims of 'defender of the faith' blown up in the process. Armenia has been turning to the West ever since Putin and Erdogan kissed over Syria.
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I'd expect Greece and France to be making some bold cultural, religious, and military moves towards aiding Armenia in the coming weeks. This has been in the cards for a while. Russia dropped the ball and it rapidly turning inward. Armenia is going the way of Serbia vis-a-vis Russia. Russia is stuck holding hands with Turkey and losing all its once allies.
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I don't think they'll lose Russia as an ally as it's an important ally for them in the region. But they do play with both the US and Russia. The Armenian diaspora in the west does feed the Armenian economy a lot so you're not going to see them shit on the US either. Meanwhile, Azerbaijan is like some Islamic Stalinist state in some bizarre world, that's propped up mostly by China to sell its oil to them.

Turkey getting involved would be stupid on their part as all it would do is drive them into civil war and strain relations with all its neighbors. They already have problems with Kurds, adding Armenians to that list would be disastrous to Turkey.
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The Belt and Road Initiative requires Armenia to be a member, either by choice or by force.
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Well it's clearly by choice because Armenia has been warming up quite a bit to both Russia and China. In fact the Armenia PM just visited the new embassy China built for them.

Armenia and China eager to boost cooperation: PM meets outgoing ambassador


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As always, the turkic people (Turks,Azerbaijani etc etc) who are the invaders in W.Asia and S.E. Europe are causing troubles with the natives as they did in Syria with their ISIS and turkoman (pseudo-syrians that nowadays come to Europe as "refugees") proxies.
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Azerbaijani Ministry of Defence announces control over Qaraxanbəyli, Qərvənd, Kənd horadiz, Böyük Mərcanlı and Nüzgar villages in Fuzuli-Jabrayil regions

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I'd expect Greece and France to be making some bold cultural, religious, and military moves towards aiding Armenia in the coming weeks. This has been in the cards for a while. Russia dropped the ball and it rapidly turning inward. Armenia is going the way of Serbia vis-a-vis Russia. Russia is stuck holding hands with Turkey and losing all its once allies.
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I don't think they'll lose Russia as an ally as it's an important ally for them in the region. But they do play with both the US and Russia. The Armenian diaspora in the west does feed the Armenian economy a lot so you're not going to see them shit on the US either. Meanwhile, Azerbaijan is like some Islamic Stalinist state in some bizarre world, that's propped up mostly by China to sell its oil to them.

Turkey getting involved would be stupid on their part as all it would do is drive them into civil war and strain relations with all its neighbors. They already have problems with Kurds, adding Armenians to that list would be disastrous to Turkey.
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Turkey and Azerbaijan are what Belarus and Russia are (or were, until the population split inside Belarus). China will do business with whoever is in power and doesn't really have much sway. In fact, they'd probably like to see a very different leadership in both Turkey and Azerbaijan simply due to the Uighars, whom both Aliev and Erdogan support. The Turks are going for it all at this point. They say as much in their media.
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I'd expect Greece and France to be making some bold cultural, religious, and military moves towards aiding Armenia in the coming weeks. This has been in the cards for a while. Russia dropped the ball and it rapidly turning inward. Armenia is going the way of Serbia vis-a-vis Russia. Russia is stuck holding hands with Turkey and losing all its once allies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11088520


I don't think they'll lose Russia as an ally as it's an important ally for them in the region. But they do play with both the US and Russia. The Armenian diaspora in the west does feed the Armenian economy a lot so you're not going to see them shit on the US either. Meanwhile, Azerbaijan is like some Islamic Stalinist state in some bizarre world, that's propped up mostly by China to sell its oil to them.

Turkey getting involved would be stupid on their part as all it would do is drive them into civil war and strain relations with all its neighbors. They already have problems with Kurds, adding Armenians to that list would be disastrous to Turkey.
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This seems incorrect in today's world as Turkey Govt will do only thing which his president want's then only thing which is going to happen is that it will in side with Azarbaijan. No other option for Turkey left anymore. Either side with them or loose in Syria.

Seems Russia played really Good behind the scenes.

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Damn it really is the rise of the crescent moon and stars.

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Turkey will bus in loads of Battle hardened Syrian Jihadist, there is rumors of it already happening.

Turkey is playing NATO, Fancies itself as a regional Islamic superpower, due to its strategic location it's beenn allowed to get away with with all sorts.
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Have any of you looked up a regional map?

I was once in Ardabil, a beautiful Iranian city near to the Azerbaijan border, not far from the Caspian sea. There are a lot of beautiful natural sights. I went by road from Ardabil to Tabriz. A lot of it looks liks SWitzerland. Mountains capped with snow and cattle farms. Ardabil honey is a wonder to behold.

Always wanted to visit Armenia and go to Mt. Ararat. Has not yet happened.

Armenia also borders with Turkey (WEst) and Georgia (North).

Azerbaijan has large oil resources. Capital city is Baku.

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Massive reinforcements have been sent by Armenia, including rocket launchers to the front line with Azerbaijan as a open war breaks out, earlier today - video

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Turkey will bus in loads of Battle hardened Syrian Jihadist, there is rumors of it already happening.

Turkey is playing NATO, Fancies itself as a regional Islamic superpower, due to its strategic location it's beenn allowed to get away with with all sorts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79422478


This. And as they've set their sights on Armenia, now, and with Russia playing a losing hand time and again, watch for France to reach out to Armenia and back them publicly against Azeri and Turkish aggression.
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I'd expect Greece and France to be making some bold cultural, religious, and military moves towards aiding Armenia in the coming weeks. This has been in the cards for a while. Russia dropped the ball and it rapidly turning inward. Armenia is going the way of Serbia vis-a-vis Russia. Russia is stuck holding hands with Turkey and losing all its once allies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11088520


I don't think they'll lose Russia as an ally as it's an important ally for them in the region. But they do play with both the US and Russia. The Armenian diaspora in the west does feed the Armenian economy a lot so you're not going to see them shit on the US either. Meanwhile, Azerbaijan is like some Islamic Stalinist state in some bizarre world, that's propped up mostly by China to sell its oil to them.

Turkey getting involved would be stupid on their part as all it would do is drive them into civil war and strain relations with all its neighbors. They already have problems with Kurds, adding Armenians to that list would be disastrous to Turkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46979089


This seems incorrect in today's world as Turkey Govt will do only thing which his president want's then only thing which is going to happen is that it will in side with Azarbaijan. No other option for Turkey left anymore. Either side with them or loose in Syria.

Seems Russia played really Good behind the scenes.
 Quoting: India First


They would logistically would have to support a war front that goes through Turkish territory populated by Armenians and Kurds. I have a hard time believing Turkey would want to pull that off in its current predicament. Edrogan is pretty stupid, so who knows.
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Unknown Turkish military UAV tactical call sign CENAH01 tracking over Armenia

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Russia borders Azerbaijan to the North with both the Caspian sea and Black sea on each side.

Sochi is a famous Russian resort city on the Black sea.

President Putin will have his word to say on his conflict.

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I'd expect Greece and France to be making some bold cultural, religious, and military moves towards aiding Armenia in the coming weeks. This has been in the cards for a while. Russia dropped the ball and it rapidly turning inward. Armenia is going the way of Serbia vis-a-vis Russia. Russia is stuck holding hands with Turkey and losing all its once allies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11088520


I don't think they'll lose Russia as an ally as it's an important ally for them in the region. But they do play with both the US and Russia. The Armenian diaspora in the west does feed the Armenian economy a lot so you're not going to see them shit on the US either. Meanwhile, Azerbaijan is like some Islamic Stalinist state in some bizarre world, that's propped up mostly by China to sell its oil to them.

Turkey getting involved would be stupid on their part as all it would do is drive them into civil war and strain relations with all its neighbors. They already have problems with Kurds, adding Armenians to that list would be disastrous to Turkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46979089


This seems incorrect in today's world as Turkey Govt will do only thing which his president want's then only thing which is going to happen is that it will in side with Azarbaijan. No other option for Turkey left anymore. Either side with them or loose in Syria.

Seems Russia played really Good behind the scenes.
 Quoting: India First


They would logistically would have to support a war front that goes through Turkish territory populated by Armenians and Kurds. I have a hard time believing Turkey would want to pull that off in its current predicament. Edrogan is pretty stupid, so who knows.
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Look at what he's pulling in Libya and the Eastern Med - in NW Iraq and Syria. He's emboldened.
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Russia borders Azerbaijan to the North with both the Caspian sea and Black sea on each side.

Sochi is a famous Russian resort city on the Black sea.

President Putin will have his word to say on his conflict.

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Putin has led Russia to the brink of implosion.
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Azerbaijan threatens to strike an Armenian Nuclear power plant. Madmen! Keeping my eye on this. Seems 2020 keeps on deliverin'!
If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes.
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Remember the Armenian Genocide?

This could be Part #2

Armenians will flee to Iran. Iran will welcome and shelter them.

Iran haz a large Armenian communities. They practice their Christian religion freely with their own churches and monasteries.

Looks like Turkey might want to annex Armenia.

I say will not happen.

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Azerbaijan threatens to strike an Armenian Nuclear power plant. Madmen! Keeping my eye on this. Seems 2020 keeps on deliverin'!
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Azeris are fucking mad. I agree.

I strongly dislike them.

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Azerbaijan threatens to strike an Armenian Nuclear power plant. Madmen! Keeping my eye on this. Seems 2020 keeps on deliverin'!
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This is most stupid threat ever given to some country. You are inviting trouble for yourself now. Russia will take care of you baby.

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Putin has led Russia to the brink of implosion.
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You said it. Now prove it. You can start a thread.

I rather 10 Putin than one Erdogan.

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All the pro Armenia peeps are down voting this thread.

Just because Armenia was a victim of genocide doesn't mean they aren't the aggressor now nor excuses it.

These reasons are the very same reasons that are only going to make things escalate severely now.
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The stupidity of the masses, amiright lol
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May this be another total failure for erdogan
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So what does this mean for doom?
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Azerbaijan threatens to strike an Armenian Nuclear power plant. Madmen! Keeping my eye on this. Seems 2020 keeps on deliverin'!
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Azeris are fucking mad. I agree.

I strongly dislike them.

burnit
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They are invaders of W.Asia. They belong to the Altai mountains from where their ancestor came from.
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So what does this mean for doom?
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It means Doom for Istanbul. If not cooled off. We are here trying to cool it off. Doing analysis. Trying to find out behind scene conspiracy which was missed out by GLP

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