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Rock and Rule (1983, 1987) / an obscure post-apocalyptic animated rock & roll film! | |
| AkashicRecord®
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 72025994  United States09/29/2020 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This passed into my radar field a few days ago. It is a very obscure animated movie with demons and satansim apparently? It looks like the Canadian release is the one to get, as there seems to have been some censorship with other versions. Has anyone seen this one before??? It looks like it flopped hard in theaters, barely making $30K on a budget of $8M. Ouch! WARNING, may contain potentially "satanic" content. Also, please contact your doctor if you have an erection lasting longer than 4 hours. So, after some diligent searching, here is the SUPERIOR Canadian version of the full film. It has a drastically different introduction! Another time... Quoting: Rock and Rule (Canadian)Another place. MOK, a legendary superocker has retired to OHMTOWN, a remote storm ravaged village famous for its unique powerplant. It is here that he lays his plans for his comeback - a great and final performance that will secure his immortality. High in the hills above OHMTOWN, MOK's computers work at deciphering an ancient satanic code which could unlock a doorway between his world and a darker dimension while MOK himself searches for the last crucial component - a very special voice. [link to youtu.be (secure)] (Thanks to JoeNobHead for finding this version on the Tube!)  Compare with the neutered and emaciated US The War was over... Quoting: Rock and Rule (US)The only survivors were street animals: dogs, cats and rats. From them, a new race of mutants evolved. That was a long time ago. MOK, a legendary superocker has retired to OHMTOWN. There his computers work on deciphering an ancient code which would unlock a doorway between this world and another dimension. Obsessed with his dark experiment, MOK himself searches for the last crucial component a very special voice. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] This movie has music from Cheap Trick and Debbie Harry from Blondie, Lou Reed, Iggy Pop, and more! Here is a rare extended version of one song with Debbie which people had been searching for years: [link to youtu.be (secure)] ..and here's an awesome Cheap Trick track from the movie: [link to youtu.be (secure)] If you liked Heavy Metal, you might LOVE this. (I do!) Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 10/21/2020 08:41 PM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 77756774 United States09/29/2020 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a decent write-up of the film: [link to nightflight.com] It seems that an original widescreen cut of the film (maybe the Canadian version?) was lost in a fire, so I'm curious as to what the 2017 Blu-Ray release actually contains. The old VHS copies looked to command some high prices as the film was developing into cult status. Here's an old trailer :) [link to youtu.be (secure)] Reminds me a bit of a poor man's Heavy Metal (which is absolutely awesome BTW) Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| DEPLORABLE windowlicker
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| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79433882 United States09/29/2020 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw it in a theatre when I was a kid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79010667 I have been searching for a copy for over 30 years, good luck. Damn, they weren't lying when they said this one was hard to find... Was this the Canadian release you saw in theaters? Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/29/2020 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw it in a theatre when I was a kid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79010667 I have been searching for a copy for over 30 years, good luck. Well, I used some net-fu after getting home from work, and I found a 1080p torrent of this movie (not too hard to find), but I'm not sure yet if it is the original Canadian version. (crossing fingers) There's also what looks like possibly a lower quality copy on the Internet Archive for posterity. I'm still going to dig around a bit and see what else turns up. edit: haven't tested to see if this works, but there was a mention of someone going to attempt to upload the movie to VEOH, and it looks like it is still there: [link to www.veoh.com (secure)] Here's a behind the scenes making of video of the movie: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 09/29/2020 10:02 PM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
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| dean007
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| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/29/2020 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well holy hell, look what I found: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| mr jenzie
User ID: 79299404  United Kingdom09/29/2020 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/29/2020 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it played on CBC Canada way back in 1983 84 not to bad movie seen it when i was a kid there should be some copies out there Quoting: dean007 Ah, so you saw the "real" version of it. Everything that I'm finding, even up to Blu-Ray remasters is all the edited shit, totalilng 77 minutes.. It seems pretty hard to find the actual "original" version, especially since the master was lost in a fire, apparently. With the edited version, a character was completely overdubbed with someone else, and a lot of "adult" references have been removed. That's a shame, because it seems like this Canadian broadcast version is almost the superior one... edit: I'm actually going to watch this Blu-Ray remaster in just a few minutes. Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 09/30/2020 12:00 AM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| dean007
User ID: 76787506 Canada09/30/2020 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it played on CBC Canada way back in 1983 84 not to bad movie seen it when i was a kid there should be some copies out there Quoting: dean007 Ah, so you saw the "real" version of it. Everything that I'm finding, even up to Blu-Ray remasters is all the edited shit, totalilng 77 minutes.. It seems pretty hard to find the actual "original" version, especially since the master was lost in a fire, apparently. With the edited version, a character was completely overdubbed with someone else, and a lot of "adult" references have been removed. That's a shame, because it seems like this Canadian broadcast version is almost the superior one... edit: I'm actually going to watch this Blu-Ray remaster in just a few minutes. cbc always runs the unedited movie thats the only good thing about cbc never edit movies |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/30/2020 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Did I just hear Omar introduce himself as "Chief Inspector QAALUDE"??  THIS MOVIE IS FUCKING GOLD  : Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 09/30/2020 01:00 AM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| AkashicRecord®
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| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/30/2020 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw it in a theatre when I was a kid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79010667 I have been searching for a copy for over 30 years, good luck. it played on CBC Canada way back in 1983 84 not to bad movie seen it when i was a kid there should be some copies out there Quoting: dean007 Well boys, I FOUND IT! I watched the English 'hacked' version last night, (excellent video restoration and transfer BTW) but later I found an incredibly decent copy of the 'real' Canadian version, and WOW does it show its superiority, even in the first few seconds of the intro... (its the small things that really count.) For one, the intro is vastly longer and it actually makes sense, instead of replacing it with something asinine about cats, rats, and dogs; obviously that change was to attempt to explain the characters oddities (probably due to confused screening audiences), but WTF...crucial story material was omitted here!! I don't think anyone out there is seeding this proper, so I may have to step up to the plate here.  Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 09/30/2020 10:20 AM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| Revolution of Consciousness
User ID: 35990220 United States09/30/2020 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by Revolution of Consciousness on 09/30/2020 10:34 AM |
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| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/30/2020 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not THAT obscure. Come on, maaaan! I used to rent it from the video store. Feisty rock lovers against the big evil rock star Mok, voiced by Iggy Pop. His theme song is by Lou Reed and is pretty rad actually. Quoting: Revolution of Consciousness Yes, but the unedited Canadian version is the proverbial needle in haystack :)  (Why the FUCK did they revoice Omar in the other versions?!) Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 09/30/2020 10:37 AM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| Revolution of Consciousness
User ID: 35990220 United States09/30/2020 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not THAT obscure. Come on, maaaan! I used to rent it from the video store. Feisty rock lovers against the big evil rock star Mok, voiced by Iggy Pop. His theme song is by Lou Reed and is pretty rad actually. Quoting: Revolution of Consciousness Yes, but the unedited Canadian version is the proverbial needle in haystack :) (Why the FUCK did they revoice Omar in the other versions?!) I think I saw the original. I don't remember an explanation about the post-apocalyptic animal humanoids for one thing. Hm. Now I want to be sure. Do you have any deleted scenes? |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/30/2020 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not THAT obscure. Come on, maaaan! I used to rent it from the video store. Feisty rock lovers against the big evil rock star Mok, voiced by Iggy Pop. His theme song is by Lou Reed and is pretty rad actually. Quoting: Revolution of Consciousness Yes, but the unedited Canadian version is the proverbial needle in haystack :) (Why the FUCK did they revoice Omar in the other versions?!) I think I saw the original. I don't remember an explanation about the post-apocalyptic animal humanoids for one thing. Hm. Now I want to be sure. Do you have any deleted scenes? Yes there's minutes of deleted scenes in here, I'm comparing the two side-by-side and it deviates very quickly; deleted "sex" scenes, drug use, the works! There are also some cuts spliced in that were not mastered, so it's all here...probably the best thing surving of the lost original workprint. (This seems to be a 1.85 anamophic and not a shitty pan-and-scan.) The original opens with a longer text intro and mentions an "ancient satanic code" and a quest for immortality. Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 09/30/2020 10:56 AM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| mr jenzie
User ID: 79299404 United Kingdom09/30/2020 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been on a animation kick recently, mostly watching Osamu Tezuka and Eiichi Yamamoto's early movies ... like i said i did like it but the style of animation is off-putting, like stodgy jelly |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/30/2020 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always lose it when Omar says he's "Chief Inspector Qaalude!" [link to youtu.be (secure)] (from The Wolf of Wall Street, if you happen to live under a large rock) Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/30/2020 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's on most animation streaming sites, that's where i got it from, and it's the full version Quoting: mr jenzie been on a animation kick recently, mostly watching Osamu Tezuka and Eiichi Yamamoto's early movies ... like i said i did like it but the style of animation is off-putting, like stodgy jelly The animation is like a strange mix of Don Bluth and Ralph Bakshi...keeping the Bakshi-esque undertones (ala Fritz the Cat) but there's also this hint of an MTV Liquid Television vibe, like how the original "Aeon Flux" series debuted there.. [link to youtu.be (secure)] Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 09/30/2020 11:24 AM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79010667 United States09/30/2020 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I watched it yesterday. A little different than I remember, seems shorter. Not the same caliber as Heavy Metal, but it has its moments. Mok sure looks like Steven Tyler does now. Another of that genre is American Pop. |
| Base12
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| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 79385721 United States09/30/2020 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I watched it yesterday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79010667 A little different than I remember, seems shorter. Not the same caliber as Heavy Metal, but it has its moments. Mok sure looks like Steven Tyler does now. Another of that genre is American Pop. Yeah, the unedited version runs about 4 minutes longer. The most "edgy" and non-PG stuff was removed. This was back when there was no PG-13 rating, so the line between PG and R was pretty big.. Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| Seven7seven
User ID: 76627076 United States09/30/2020 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Wizards" is another post apocalyptic animated movie from 1977, wasn't too bad! Dream as you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today.... Only the gentle are ever really strong.... Christ Jesus is the Way.... |
| AkashicRecord®
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79295128 United States09/30/2020 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that's a Don Bluth movie, the guy who did Ftitz the Cat and other notable u.g. animation. As I recall he did the animated (never really and properly finished) Lord of the Rings movie from the 80s, the one that ends as the group meets the Balrog. Until Peter Jackson's version it was the only thing close to a decent interpretation of the LOTR books. Also he did the 80s videodisc 'games' Dragon's Lair and Space Ace. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79295128 United States09/30/2020 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not THAT obscure. Come on, maaaan! I used to rent it from the video store. Feisty rock lovers against the big evil rock star Mok, voiced by Iggy Pop. His theme song is by Lou Reed and is pretty rad actually. Edit: Found out Iggy only did some songs, not the speaking voice. Quoting: Revolution of Consciousness |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79295128 United States09/30/2020 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that's a Don Bluth movie, the guy who did Ftitz the Cat and other notable u.g. animation. As I recall he did the animated (never really and properly finished) Lord of the Rings movie from the 80s, the one that ends as the group meets the Balrog. Until Peter Jackson's version it was the only thing close to a decent interpretation of the LOTR books. Also he did the 80s videodisc 'games' Dragon's Lair and Space Ace. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79295128 Oh man scratch that, I'm getting Don Bluth and Ralph Bakshi all jumbled up in one purple haze. |
