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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79329084 United States 10/05/2020 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda It's funny how not matter how much things change, we are still living with our inherited group psyche... we always think that we are right, and those that think otherwise are evil or stupid. hahaha |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78076561 10/05/2020 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Jizzlaine Maxwell's daddy bought up many prestigious science journals several decades ago in an attempt by the elite to control science narratives.. Money and science do not mix well, and the marriage produces "junk" science -- good only for political agendas. Junk science is pseudo science. |
GrudgeMonkey
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44054411 Canada 10/05/2020 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda I'm sorry, did you just claim that religion doesn't change. Which Bible do you read? There are hundreds. Ever hear of the council of nicea? Your religion can't even decide what it believes. Science changes because the depth of our knowledge changes, we learn. Religion is going backward denying facts. |
Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 10/05/2020 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Science itself doesn't lie. Scientists do. Science was used to propel astronauts into so called space. Science provided the principals to allow the engineers to design the rockets. Yet it seems the astronauts did lie. Hell, they can't even keep their story straight about seeing stars. One says they couldn't see any. Another says they were beautiful. And this is where you jumped the shark. I really wish we could get a bunch of you science deniers and strap you to the next rocket. To see the stars your eyes have to be dark adapted. If you're just sitting in the spacecraft with the lights on you're not going to see any stars out the window. If you turn the lights off and make a deliberate effort to allow your eyes to dark adapt over several minutes, you'll see lots of stars. And if you put an eye patch on to keep an eye dark adapted you can use it to navigate the spacecraft by the stars with a sextant. Apollo astronauts actually did this to navigate to and from the moon. Whether or not you see the stars very much depends upon the context in which you were asking that question. But you would have to understand science to understand that. It's not a lie, it's just your ignorance. |
Happy in Nature
User ID: 79449875 Nicaragua 10/05/2020 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Humans are natural scientists, but the controllers behind the curtains have dumbed down society to make us dependent upon outside technology and/or people with specialized knowledge to tell us how to live. I am fortunate to live in the jungle, spending most of my days watching nature: clouds, animals, weather, insects, seasons, water flow, migration patterns... What makes one a scientist? Do I not qualify for the term if that is my life and plan for the future? The term "science" has turned into Orwellian doublespeak, for today's "science" is merely political interpretations of nature's systems to fit the globalist, dystopian agenda. Maybe in this war is peace/ignorance is strength world, anti-science might be a ribbon worn with pride, as it really means anti-political interpretations of nature's systems. |
Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 10/05/2020 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda LMFAO! I keep a gun on myself at all times and I deal with death threats from ignorant anti-scientific nut jobs who hate my guts and want to kill me. I'm not even just talking about people on this forum, I'm talking about people I know in real life who have threatened to kill me because they can't stand me. Yeah, my white lab coat really gave me some serious priest class luxury didn't it? Space denying nut jobs are some of the most dangerous people I know. Last Edited by Astromut on 10/05/2020 03:15 PM |
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oniongrass
User ID: 79436619 United States 10/05/2020 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda More Propaganda proclaiming SCIENCE is the end all. Quoting: DeniedTruths ALL SCIENCE is their TRUTH. A hit piece on Critical Thinkers or any Conspiracy theories. They ridicule anything and anyone they don't label as scientific fact. Pushed by professional skeptics. It's even a war on critical thinkers who are fully qualified scientists. Science-by-consensus is a crutch for those who cannot think independently about science. It's a shame to see the inmates taking over the asylum, or the failed students taking over the university, like this. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Dr Feelgood User ID: 26728121 United States 10/05/2020 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda When “science” become corrupted by the woke mafia and ceases to be impartial it ceases to be science. Quoting: Dr Feelgood 26728121 Once "science" has an agenda behind it, it CANNOT be trusted. PERIOD. Correct. Science has no political affiliation, if is does, it isn’t science. Science has no bias, if is does, it isn’t science Science has no agenda, if is does, it isn’t science Science does pander to anyone’s feelings, it doesn’t change itself to accommodate mental illness, it doesn’t deny that which is known fact in favor of that which was fabricated by fools. When “science” is manipulated to create specific results it isn’t science. When “science” is funded by someone who expects their money to yield a result that benefits them.... you know... you know the thing. There is no field that is untouched by corruption anymore, from business, politics, the court system, medicine, pharmaceuticals, education, big tech, every corner of the world has been tempted if not fully infiltrated by corruption, and as such we would be foolish to fail to consider that when evaluating information from ANY source. |
DeniedTruths
(OP) User ID: 71081212 United States 10/05/2020 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Science itself doesn't lie. Scientists do. Science was used to propel astronauts into so called space. Science provided the principals to allow the engineers to design the rockets. Yet it seems the astronauts did lie. Hell, they can't even keep their story straight about seeing stars. One says they couldn't see any. Another says they were beautiful. And this is where you jumped the shark. I really wish we could get a bunch of you science deniers and strap you to the next rocket. To see the stars your eyes have to be dark adapted. If you're just sitting in the spacecraft with the lights on you're not going to see any stars out the window. If you turn the lights off and make a deliberate effort to allow your eyes to dark adapt over several minutes, you'll see lots of stars. And if you put an eye patch on to keep an eye dark adapted you can use it to navigate the spacecraft by the stars with a sextant. Apollo astronauts actually did this to navigate to and from the moon. Whether or not you see the stars very much depends upon the context in which you were asking that question. But you would have to understand science to understand that. It's not a lie, it's just your ignorance. Astro. Have you ever been in space? Have you ever seen with your own eyes? I don't deny science. I study you all. We are NOT FREE. We are FREE RANGE. Master of Kentucky windage. The more I SEE, the more I understand. The more I UNDERSTAND, the more I see. "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller "The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller If I post something and you are an asshole in your response I will delete you. IF you are polite and offer information to the contrary. THANK-YOU |
oniongrass
User ID: 79436619 United States 10/05/2020 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Science is the study of nature's systems presented in a manner that we humans can understand. Nature is truth. It exists and it is existence in a 3D form. Whether we understand the how and and whys or remain willfully ignorant, nature/existence will continue to exist in some form. Quoting: Happy in Nature Humans are natural scientists, but the controllers behind the curtains have dumbed down society to make us dependent upon outside technology and/or people with specialized knowledge to tell us how to live. I am fortunate to live in the jungle, spending most of my days watching nature: clouds, animals, weather, insects, seasons, water flow, migration patterns... What makes one a scientist? Do I not qualify for the term if that is my life and plan for the future? The term "science" has turned into Orwellian doublespeak, for today's "science" is merely political interpretations of nature's systems to fit the globalist, dystopian agenda. Maybe in this war is peace/ignorance is strength world, anti-science might be a ribbon worn with pride, as it really means anti-political interpretations of nature's systems. That describes some natural science. Physical science, chemistry and physics, requires more quantitative reasoning, and physics especially merges into various areas of higher mathematics. It gives ways of understanding the world that aren't immediately obvious to the eye and common sense. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 10/05/2020 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Science itself doesn't lie. Scientists do. Science was used to propel astronauts into so called space. Science provided the principals to allow the engineers to design the rockets. Yet it seems the astronauts did lie. Hell, they can't even keep their story straight about seeing stars. One says they couldn't see any. Another says they were beautiful. And this is where you jumped the shark. I really wish we could get a bunch of you science deniers and strap you to the next rocket. To see the stars your eyes have to be dark adapted. If you're just sitting in the spacecraft with the lights on you're not going to see any stars out the window. If you turn the lights off and make a deliberate effort to allow your eyes to dark adapt over several minutes, you'll see lots of stars. And if you put an eye patch on to keep an eye dark adapted you can use it to navigate the spacecraft by the stars with a sextant. Apollo astronauts actually did this to navigate to and from the moon. Whether or not you see the stars very much depends upon the context in which you were asking that question. But you would have to understand science to understand that. It's not a lie, it's just your ignorance. Astro. Have you ever been in space? Have you ever seen with your own eyes? I don't deny science. I've seen and recorded it myself many times. I've independently verified with my own equipment that their missions are real. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266 United States 10/05/2020 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Science is the study of the universe to determine through specific method what is the truth and what is theory. Any one that tells you to not attempt to discover the truth for yourself is no scientist, they are also an idiot. |
DeniedTruths
(OP) User ID: 71081212 United States 10/05/2020 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Thanks for the PINE. I study you all. We are NOT FREE. We are FREE RANGE. Master of Kentucky windage. The more I SEE, the more I understand. The more I UNDERSTAND, the more I see. "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller "The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller If I post something and you are an asshole in your response I will delete you. IF you are polite and offer information to the contrary. THANK-YOU |
DeniedTruths
(OP) User ID: 71081212 United States 10/05/2020 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda ... Quoting: DeniedTruths Science itself doesn't lie. Scientists do. Science was used to propel astronauts into so called space. Science provided the principals to allow the engineers to design the rockets. Yet it seems the astronauts did lie. Hell, they can't even keep their story straight about seeing stars. One says they couldn't see any. Another says they were beautiful. And this is where you jumped the shark. I really wish we could get a bunch of you science deniers and strap you to the next rocket. To see the stars your eyes have to be dark adapted. If you're just sitting in the spacecraft with the lights on you're not going to see any stars out the window. If you turn the lights off and make a deliberate effort to allow your eyes to dark adapt over several minutes, you'll see lots of stars. And if you put an eye patch on to keep an eye dark adapted you can use it to navigate the spacecraft by the stars with a sextant. Apollo astronauts actually did this to navigate to and from the moon. Whether or not you see the stars very much depends upon the context in which you were asking that question. But you would have to understand science to understand that. It's not a lie, it's just your ignorance. Astro. Have you ever been in space? Have you ever seen with your own eyes? I don't deny science. I've seen and recorded it myself many times. I've independently verified with my own equipment that their missions are real. Great Photos. I am aware you have several imaging devices. I would like to have the same. And actually, I admire your level of experience. But that isn't my question. My question is, have you ever been to space? I study you all. We are NOT FREE. We are FREE RANGE. Master of Kentucky windage. The more I SEE, the more I understand. The more I UNDERSTAND, the more I see. "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller "The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller If I post something and you are an asshole in your response I will delete you. IF you are polite and offer information to the contrary. THANK-YOU |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77192746 United States 10/05/2020 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda It's easy for the elites to corrupt "science" in order to push an agenda. You see this with "global warming" especially. Big pharma also is very corrupted, using "scientific studies" that are often biased and to shut down alternative much cheaper competition. |
Happy in Nature
User ID: 79449875 Nicaragua 10/05/2020 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Science is the study of nature's systems presented in a manner that we humans can understand. Nature is truth. It exists and it is existence in a 3D form. Whether we understand the how and and whys or remain willfully ignorant, nature/existence will continue to exist in some form. Quoting: Happy in Nature Humans are natural scientists, but the controllers behind the curtains have dumbed down society to make us dependent upon outside technology and/or people with specialized knowledge to tell us how to live. I am fortunate to live in the jungle, spending most of my days watching nature: clouds, animals, weather, insects, seasons, water flow, migration patterns... What makes one a scientist? Do I not qualify for the term if that is my life and plan for the future? The term "science" has turned into Orwellian doublespeak, for today's "science" is merely political interpretations of nature's systems to fit the globalist, dystopian agenda. Maybe in this war is peace/ignorance is strength world, anti-science might be a ribbon worn with pride, as it really means anti-political interpretations of nature's systems. That describes some natural science. Physical science, chemistry and physics, requires more quantitative reasoning, and physics especially merges into various areas of higher mathematics. It gives ways of understanding the world that aren't immediately obvious to the eye and common sense. In innately understood Chaos and Complexity Theory before I knew they existed. I believe that we all have an natural intelligence that allows us to understand these concepts, but we are controlled to be subservient to the masters and thus lose this natural intelligence, thus having to resort to "experts" to interpret nature for us. Advanced science is merely a specialization of sciences, but it is still the study of systems and putting it in a way we can understand them. In any language, there is often something missing in the interpretation. The same goes for science because today's version of science is not about knowledge and understanding, it is using that knowledge for economic or political purposes to control society, which in turn justifies lying, withholding or manipulating information by "scientists". We don't know what is true or fake, but we do know there is a lot of fakery out there. Manipulating/engineering nature is not science because science is the study of nature, not the manipulation of nature in some form to create a desired result. Anything outside the study of Nature is not science, it is engineering/ecology/chemistry/physics - whatever - based upon the knowledge of Nature's systems. GMOs are not "scientific"; they area result of someone/something wanting to manipulate Nature for economic purposes and used the understanding of Nature's systems to build their product. . Speaking out against GMOs is considered "anti-science" even though "science" is the reason people are against GMOs. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75376558 United States 10/05/2020 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda LMFAO! I keep a gun on myself at all times and I deal with death threats from ignorant anti-scientific nut jobs who hate my guts and want to kill me. I'm not even just talking about people on this forum, I'm talking about people I know in real life who have threatened to kill me because they can't stand me. Yeah, my white lab coat really gave me some serious priest class luxury didn't it? Space denying nut jobs are some of the most dangerous people I know. It waz kewl when u punched that Bart dude buzzmut. |
Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 10/05/2020 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda ... Quoting: Astromut And this is where you jumped the shark. I really wish we could get a bunch of you science deniers and strap you to the next rocket. To see the stars your eyes have to be dark adapted. If you're just sitting in the spacecraft with the lights on you're not going to see any stars out the window. If you turn the lights off and make a deliberate effort to allow your eyes to dark adapt over several minutes, you'll see lots of stars. And if you put an eye patch on to keep an eye dark adapted you can use it to navigate the spacecraft by the stars with a sextant. Apollo astronauts actually did this to navigate to and from the moon. Whether or not you see the stars very much depends upon the context in which you were asking that question. But you would have to understand science to understand that. It's not a lie, it's just your ignorance. Astro. Have you ever been in space? Have you ever seen with your own eyes? I don't deny science. I've seen and recorded it myself many times. I've independently verified with my own equipment that their missions are real. Great Photos. I am aware you have several imaging devices. I would like to have the same. And actually, I admire your level of experience. But that isn't my question. My question is, have you ever been to space? I'm helping launch payloads to space. I don't need to go to space myself to measure things in space and verify they're really there and really doing what they're supposed to be doing. I don't accept the premise, science lets me verify these things empirically from the ground. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79295128 United States 10/05/2020 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Scientific knowledge is always in flux and all scientific 'laws' are subject to change or even replacement. As we learn new things, some of our old ideas may require revision. It's the inherent nature of learning and growing. To hold a piece of science as an immobile truth is to not understand the nature of science; we should consider different points of view to the constructive end of achieving a better understanding of our infinite surroundings. To maintain an unwillingness to open our hearts and minds to new possibilities only perpetuates the limits we experience in this finite dimension, limits I believe we were meant to acknowledge and subsequently exceed with impunity. |
dogman17
User ID: 17888108 United States 10/05/2020 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Science is never absolute and it makes statements based upon a preponderance of information gathered by many people who do experiments and contend with peer review. It's the best way to get the best view of all of nature. Compare that to superstition and absolute belief in what cannot be tested or proved. I prefer science Just don't make anything up. |
Reader.
User ID: 79282394 United States 10/05/2020 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda Scientists are often peddlers of false truths, not necessarily lies. A false truth is a wrong conclusion. A wrong conclusion doesn't become a lie until the error in calculation is realized and purposefully ignored. The sciences are pretty good at weeding out the actual lies, but they are terrible at recognizing the false truths that are currently staring them in the face. The further you travel from the hard sciences, the worse the nonsense becomes. The sad part is that false truths are often more dangerous than lies, because the people peddling them often do it with zeal and arrogance, each thinking they know more than everyone else and things would be better if everyone just listened to them. Another poster mentioned climate science, and that is a great example. How is it that we can't predict exactly where a hurricane will make landfall when it is still 3-4 days out, and my local weatherman can't accurately tell me what the local weather will be 10 days from now, but the "science is settled" related to the entirety of the earth's climate, how it is changing, and what is behind all that change? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7986208 United States 10/05/2020 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda That is the definition yes. Their version of science is what they want known. Their version of knowledge is all they want you to know. To that end, CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE DANGEROUS. Large amounts of people all theorizing what actually happened in any event is dangerous if the OFFICIAL VERSION is A LIE. So YES a Conspiracy Theory or just plain old different point of view is dangerous to any lie. They want you to have faith in science. Just their version of science. They want you to look to them for answers. They don't want you to question their versions. They don't want you to HAVE A SECOND OPINION. They don't want you to question or think critically about their PROPAGANDIZED VERSION. They haven't admitted it yet but this video and the Netflix Movie both mention people becoming vulnerable to Conspiracy theories. They are infiltrating the public with the thought that DANGEROUS THEORIES will need to be controlled. It is for your own good. You are vulnerable. So this tries to subtly explain why they are going to roll out Laws and restrictions against CONSPIRACY THEORIES. Laws against hypothesizing about an event. This is George Orwell 1984 type propaganda. This is one article used as propaganda right now. If ANY story can't stand on it's own two legs of truth. At that point EVERYONE should be questioning current events. When they legalized PROPAGANDA in the USA to be used on USA Citizens that pretty much summarized their intentions towards the the citizens of the USA. At this point, count on Propaganda being currently utilized. ACTIVE PROPAGANDA being used in the USA. And to be completely honest, I don't trust an atheist completely. I have NEVER met any man smarter than The Bible. Usually they deny God Almighty and his Son Jesus Christ while they worship Satan. I would much rather deal with an honest God-fearing Man or Woman. Wait and see. This is part of their plan to attack the first amendment. Hate Speech was another. Once we accepted that one they came out with the next. They have to get rid of the 1ST and the 2ND AMENDMENTS. They are in the way of the NWO and the great reset they plan. |
Gorgol
User ID: 74362420 Germany 10/05/2020 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Any theory other than the OFFICIAL SCIENCE VERSION is dangerous - Science as a belief system Propaganda 15 min. in and I feel it's a brainwash to make me accept global warming and all things mainstream Truth mixed with lies Mainstream bias compliance; go with the flow Prescribed reality-commercial Accept Comply Sleep Last Edited by Gorgol on 10/05/2020 06:30 PM Gorgol -No Jab, No Jitter |
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