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Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?

 
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Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
I grew up watching Star Trek and its spin-off TNG. Starfleet was primarily concerned with exploration and each episode carefully explored the ethical dimension to events. Violence for its own sake was not a part of the storyline. There was a realism in Star Trek, I found lacking in the simplistic morality tale of Star Wars.

Yet from what I've seen of modern Star Trek it's violent even ultraviolent with little or no emphasis on cerebral plotting, instead focusing on empty special effects laden spectacle.

This is what happens when young people are given creative control over beloved series such as Star Trek.

Star Trek died quietly after Voyager wind-up (and I didn't think much of the last few Voyager seasons). 'Enterprise' was a joke and those modern film versions with Chris Pine as Kirk should never have been made.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
We are in the leadership decadence and populous distraction by blood sports phase of the decline
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Star Trek, particularly TNG, explored thoughtful subjects that encouraged introspection, and changing opinion in light of new ideas/facts. It explored what it meant to be human more than the cosmos.

Obviously that type of program encourages critical thinking.

New ST has taken the name only and focuses on violence, identity politics and a battles of the sexes.

It's just a propaganda series now.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
I agree ☝️

Action/violence is not quality

Entertain us by allowing our minds to be stimulated
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Because $. Overuse of action/violence and braindead (non existent usually) plots appeal to a larger group. Even though that group is by and large idiots they still have money.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
All that matters is that it stars a black chick who is as smart and decisive as any man..and if she wants to ride dick or hump slits that is her choice and not your business.

Get with the Program.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
All that matters is that it stars a black chick who is as smart and decisive as any man..and if she wants to ride dick or hump slits that is her choice and not your business.

Get with the Program.
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Pretty much this. It's sad. Star Trek is done. So is Star Wars. Flash special effects, stupid plot/characters and all the SJW shit anyone could ever ask for.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Lack of Gene’s.

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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Because millennials are writing scripts now.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Agenda.
PC.
Equality.
Mediocrity.
Algorithmic created consumer products.

All wonderful addition to the NWO.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Op, you are right. Case in point: Trouble with Tribbles. Or what about Colonel Pike and the bubble headed aliens?

Star Trek used to make you think and consider consequences.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Because millennials are writing scripts now.
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As a millennial (albeit an older one) I agree. Give me original Trek or 90's Trek any day of the week. Hell Enterprise too. People bitched about it at the time but I thought it was okay if a bit underwhelming. It still beats the hell out of what we have now.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
It happened when the captain was no longer allowed to bang the hot female of every species they met.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Best thing to come out of Enterprise was T'Pol. Gnome sayin?
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Best thing to come out of Enterprise was T'Pol. Gnome sayin?
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I'd argue for Seven of Nine but I'd probably put T'pol second lol
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Best thing to come out of Enterprise was T'Pol. Gnome sayin?
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I'd argue for Seven of Nine but I'd probably put T'pol second lol
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Never mind I missed the "Enterprise" part. Thought you meant across all series. Then yes T'pol as number 1. I honestly think Enterprise started to become a decent show. Unfortunately by that time it got canceled. Oh well.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Enjoyed Deep Space Nine the most, Quark being the most entertaining character.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
-Pathetic
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Because humanity is spiraling down into further degeneration by the second.

Including ‘conservatives’, but more-so the leftists.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Because humanity is spiraling down into further degeneration by the second.

Including ‘conservatives’, but more-so the leftists.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Because humanity is spiraling down into further degeneration by the second.

Including ‘conservatives’, but more-so the leftists.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
I thought Enterprise was good because they tried to follow Gene Roddenberry's example. However, TOS (which i didn't see when it came out, i have dvds) is the best one.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Best thing to come out of Enterprise was T'Pol. Gnome sayin?
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I'd argue for Seven of Nine but I'd probably put T'pol second lol
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Id just want to be thrown into a chocky sauce pit with both of them.

Ohhh...yeaahhhh.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
I grew up watching Star Trek and its spin-off TNG. Starfleet was primarily concerned with exploration and each episode carefully explored the ethical dimension to events. Violence for its own sake was not a part of the storyline. There was a realism in Star Trek, I found lacking in the simplistic morality tale of Star Wars.

Yet from what I've seen of modern Star Trek it's violent even ultraviolent with little or no emphasis on cerebral plotting, instead focusing on empty special effects laden spectacle.

This is what happens when young people are given creative control over beloved series such as Star Trek.

Star Trek died quietly after Voyager wind-up (and I didn't think much of the last few Voyager seasons). 'Enterprise' was a joke and those modern film versions with Chris Pine as Kirk should never have been made.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33135441

Agreed w/ bold!

Give the relatively new show, Picard, a shot.

It had some minor SJW stuff in it, but was overall a pleasant surprise after that horrible STD they produced.
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Nostalgia humping, keep those stocks up.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
I grew up watching Star Trek and its spin-off TNG. Starfleet was primarily concerned with exploration and each episode carefully explored the ethical dimension to events. Violence for its own sake was not a part of the storyline. There was a realism in Star Trek, I found lacking in the simplistic morality tale of Star Wars.

Yet from what I've seen of modern Star Trek it's violent even ultraviolent with little or no emphasis on cerebral plotting, instead focusing on empty special effects laden spectacle.

This is what happens when young people are given creative control over beloved series such as Star Trek.

Star Trek died quietly after Voyager wind-up (and I didn't think much of the last few Voyager seasons). 'Enterprise' was a joke and those modern film versions with Chris Pine as Kirk should never have been made.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33135441

Agreed w/ bold!

Give the relatively new show, Picard, a shot.

It had some minor SJW stuff in it, but was overall a pleasant surprise after that horrible STD they produced.
 Quoting: AxX


I'm not going to even bother with Picard. From the reviews I've read it's very violent and 7 of 9 has become a murderer.

I want the intelligent Star Trek of old which used science to tell an intricate story about anomalies.
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It happened when the captain was no longer allowed to bang the hot female of every species they met.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
I grew up watching Star Trek and its spin-off TNG. Starfleet was primarily concerned with exploration and each episode carefully explored the ethical dimension to events. Violence for its own sake was not a part of the storyline. There was a realism in Star Trek, I found lacking in the simplistic morality tale of Star Wars.

Yet from what I've seen of modern Star Trek it's violent even ultraviolent with little or no emphasis on cerebral plotting, instead focusing on empty special effects laden spectacle.

This is what happens when young people are given creative control over beloved series such as Star Trek.

Star Trek died quietly after Voyager wind-up (and I didn't think much of the last few Voyager seasons). 'Enterprise' was a joke and those modern film versions with Chris Pine as Kirk should never have been made.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33135441

Agreed w/ bold!

Give the relatively new show, Picard, a shot.

It had some minor SJW stuff in it, but was overall a pleasant surprise after that horrible STD they produced.
 Quoting: AxX


I'm not going to even bother with Picard. From the reviews I've read it's very violent and 7 of 9 has become a murderer.

I want the intelligent Star Trek of old which used science to tell an intricate story about anomalies.
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Picard is garbage, don't bother.

Watch the last 5 minutes of the Plinkitt review of Picard. It clearly demonstrates the OP's initial statement.

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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
Which modern Star Trek?

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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
It happened when the captain was no longer allowed to bang the hot female of every species they met.
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Re: Why is modern Star Trek so violent and empty spectacle?
I grew up watching Star Trek and its spin-off TNG. Starfleet was primarily concerned with exploration and each episode carefully explored the ethical dimension to events. Violence for its own sake was not a part of the storyline. There was a realism in Star Trek, I found lacking in the simplistic morality tale of Star Wars.

Yet from what I've seen of modern Star Trek it's violent even ultraviolent with little or no emphasis on cerebral plotting, instead focusing on empty special effects laden spectacle.

This is what happens when young people are given creative control over beloved series such as Star Trek.

Star Trek died quietly after Voyager wind-up (and I didn't think much of the last few Voyager seasons). 'Enterprise' was a joke and those modern film versions with Chris Pine as Kirk should never have been made.
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Originally Science Fiction, books or movies, were written for people who were thinkers.
It was used as a way to expose people to moral, political, scientific and social issues, in an abstract setting.
either suggesting solutions or allowing the reader or viewer to decide upon their own what solutions are possible.

But today, most people are not thinkers, they revel in the baser instincts, such as blood, guts, sex and violence, thus the change in science fiction.





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