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Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner

 
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Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
From Sir Roger Penrose, Nobel winner with two others, after finding evidence of Hawking Points, saying they are remnants from a previous universe, transferred through black holes--


"I claim that there is observation of Hawking radiation. The Big Bang was not the beginning. There was something before the Big Bang and that something is what we will have in our future”, Sir Roger said, according to The Telegraph.

“We have a universe that expands and expands, and all mass decays away, and in this crazy theory of mine, that remote future becomes the Big Bang of another aeon.

“So our Big Bang began with something which was the remote future of a previous aeon and there would have been similar black holes evaporating away, via Hawking evaporation, and they would produce these points in the sky, that I call Hawking Points."




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The Vedic scriptures describe this process of universe after universe, cyclic manifestation. They even say how many years they last.
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
The Vedic scriptures describe this process of universe after universe, cyclic manifestation. They even say how many years they last.
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I think numerous ancients described this process....hf
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
so it takes a nobel prize to theorise that there could have been something before the creation of everything.


a million people before him have guessed the same.

whats new now?
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
Or maybe God just pioneered recycling.
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What a wayy lame fucking theory. Sad and not unique
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
He calls it a "crazy theory" of his....I've wondered if he waited for the prize, to legitimize himself, to put his (I think) not so crazy theory into the public sphere.


Not that he needed it, but still....the thought did cross my mind.
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the craziest thing to try to get your head around, is time runs backwards on the other side of a black hole relative to this side.
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
Or maybe God just pioneered recycling.
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I like the way you think!.....hf
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the craziest thing to try to get your head around, is time runs backwards on the other side of a black hole relative to this side.
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scratching....so our death is our birth, and our birth becomes our death?


How does that work?....pfht, perhaps I should be asking, is it even a same type of reality?
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the craziest thing to try to get your head around, is time runs backwards on the other side of a black hole relative to this side.
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scratching....so our death is our birth, and our birth becomes our death?


How does that work?....pfht, perhaps I should be asking, is it even a same type of reality?
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well, on the other side, time is running forwards as normal. but this side is running backwards.

a head fuck isnt it.
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
the craziest thing to try to get your head around, is time runs backwards on the other side of a black hole relative to this side.
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scratching....so our death is our birth, and our birth becomes our death?


How does that work?....pfht, perhaps I should be asking, is it even a same type of reality?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


well, on the other side, time is running forwards as normal. but this side is running backwards.

a head fuck isnt it.
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Where did you hear this?


I mean, it makes sense....but yes, when thinking about it I get a kind of vertigo....like I'm falling. Weird.


Wow, that was a freaky little trip.....charlie....I had to ground myself....like, quickly.
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can someone op/admin delete what i just said, i wasn't supposed to say that yet.
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
From Sir Roger Penrose, Nobel winner with two others, after finding evidence of Hawking Points, saying they are remnants from a previous universe, transferred through black holes--


"I claim that there is observation of Hawking radiation. The Big Bang was not the beginning. There was something before the Big Bang and that something is what we will have in our future”, Sir Roger said, according to The Telegraph.

“We have a universe that expands and expands, and all mass decays away, and in this crazy theory of mine, that remote future becomes the Big Bang of another aeon.

“So our Big Bang began with something which was the remote future of a previous aeon and there would have been similar black holes evaporating away, via Hawking evaporation, and they would produce these points in the sky, that I call Hawking Points."




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I hate to deflate your Nobel Prize winners theory, but he is probably a baby raper anyways.

It seems like all of the Nobel prize winners are murderers or baby rapers, I'm glad they never offered me one. I would beat them with it.

Either way, this universe rotates through source. Think of it as a wheel turning in the middle of an endless ocean. This is where they figured out how to measure the rotation and plagued humanity with the wheels of time.

Source is not a universe, and has existed since the be going and end of time, you are residing in the first construct made. It has been used thousands of times, and there are now millions of universes within other constructs that spin through source for power.

You tried to use a word and idol game to incarcerate creation and seal this series of realms and dimensions in hopes of making your own source out of human sacrifice, pain, and misery so a select few could play superheros.

I am here to stop your madness as you have created your end if you proceed with this.

I know who I am, and I know who you are from outside this creation.

I'm tired of being treated like a child in shool by your cuck bots.

Fix it.
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
From Sir Roger Penrose, Nobel winner with two others, after finding evidence of Hawking Points, saying they are remnants from a previous universe, transferred through black holes--


"I claim that there is observation of Hawking radiation. The Big Bang was not the beginning. There was something before the Big Bang and that something is what we will have in our future”, Sir Roger said, according to The Telegraph.

“We have a universe that expands and expands, and all mass decays away, and in this crazy theory of mine, that remote future becomes the Big Bang of another aeon.

“So our Big Bang began with something which was the remote future of a previous aeon and there would have been similar black holes evaporating away, via Hawking evaporation, and they would produce these points in the sky, that I call Hawking Points."




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I hate to deflate your Nobel Prize winners theory, but he is probably a baby raper anyways.

It seems like all of the Nobel prize winners are murderers or baby rapers, I'm glad they never offered me one. I would beat them with it.

Either way, this universe rotates through source. Think of it as a wheel turning in the middle of an endless ocean. This is where they figured out how to measure the rotation and plagued humanity with the wheels of time.

Source is not a universe, and has existed since the be going and end of time, you are residing in the first construct made. It has been used thousands of times, and there are now millions of universes within other constructs that spin through source for power.

You tried to use a word and idol game to incarcerate creation and seal this series of realms and dimensions in hopes of making your own source out of human sacrifice, pain, and misery so a select few could play superheros.

I am here to stop your madness as you have created your end if you proceed with this.

I know who I am, and I know who you are from outside this creation.

I'm tired of being treated like a child in shool by your cuck bots.

Fix it.
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can someone op/admin delete what i just said, i wasn't supposed to say that yet.
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I deleted it....but I didn't like doing that. There should be no secrets, eh?


That was truly almost a "trip" for me, right out of my body. Kinda profound for me....but it's been an interesting day.


Heh, I saved what you wrote, because I want to look at it again tomorrow.


Thanks (I think) for the experience....it gives me something to look into....hf
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
The theory is messy because a black holes mass is in constant fluctuation. From Penrose's perspective, we are thriving inside a black hole. That black hole is both the clock and structure that unifies everything in the universe. If that clock is being bombarded by matter, we must be able to detect fluctuations from within. So far it seems as if our universe has an uninterruptable clock. This means that his assumptions are most likely incorrect. There must be an alternative process that brings light, time and structure into this universe.
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The theory is messy because a black holes mass is in constant fluctuation. From Penrose's perspective, we are thriving inside a black hole. That black hole is both the clock and structure that unifies everything in the universe. If that clock is being bombarded by matter, we must be able to detect fluctuations from within. So far it seems as if our universe has an uninterruptable clock. This means that his assumptions are most likely incorrect. There must be an alternative process that brings light, time and structure into this universe.
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I'm not so sure about that. We are a small speck in this universe, but time is mighty screwy here....or time can be screwed with here.

One way or the other, time has not appeared totally uninterruptable to me, not per some experiences.
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The person up above me saying 'the Vedas said this' is spot on.

Can you say Kali Yuga?

Old king Brahman dreamin the big dream. Must be in one hellish nightmare right 'bout now.

Wake UP, you're dreaming and it's BAD!
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
The theory is messy because a black holes mass is in constant fluctuation. From Penrose's perspective, we are thriving inside a black hole. That black hole is both the clock and structure that unifies everything in the universe. If that clock is being bombarded by matter, we must be able to detect fluctuations from within. So far it seems as if our universe has an uninterruptable clock. This means that his assumptions are most likely incorrect. There must be an alternative process that brings light, time and structure into this universe.
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I'm not so sure about that. We are a small speck in this universe, but time is mighty screwy here....or time can be screwed with here.

One way or the other, time has not appeared totally uninterruptable to me, not per some experiences.
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Actually, I once read some info that said we are out of sync, time-wise, with the rest of the universe.

I don't remember where now. It seems like a far off memory, but I do remember reading that.
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
The theory is messy because a black holes mass is in constant fluctuation. From Penrose's perspective, we are thriving inside a black hole. That black hole is both the clock and structure that unifies everything in the universe. If that clock is being bombarded by matter, we must be able to detect fluctuations from within. So far it seems as if our universe has an uninterruptable clock. This means that his assumptions are most likely incorrect. There must be an alternative process that brings light, time and structure into this universe.
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I'm not so sure about that. We are a small speck in this universe, but time is mighty screwy here....or time can be screwed with here.

One way or the other, time has not appeared totally uninterruptable to me, not per some experiences.
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Actually, I once read some info that said we are out of sync, time-wise, with the rest of the universe.

I don't remember where now. It seems like a far off memory, but I do remember reading that.
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If possible, please link any mathematical or observational evidence. That would change everything.
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
The theory is messy because a black holes mass is in constant fluctuation. From Penrose's perspective, we are thriving inside a black hole. That black hole is both the clock and structure that unifies everything in the universe. If that clock is being bombarded by matter, we must be able to detect fluctuations from within. So far it seems as if our universe has an uninterruptable clock. This means that his assumptions are most likely incorrect. There must be an alternative process that brings light, time and structure into this universe.
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I'm not so sure about that. We are a small speck in this universe, but time is mighty screwy here....or time can be screwed with here.

One way or the other, time has not appeared totally uninterruptable to me, not per some experiences.
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Actually, I once read some info that said we are out of sync, time-wise, with the rest of the universe.

I don't remember where now. It seems like a far off memory, but I do remember reading that.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


If possible, please link any mathematical or observational evidence. That would change everything.
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Well, it won't be mathematical. It's more so experiential/observational....but I'll have to do that tomorrow, I am going to bed.

If you want to check back tomorrow, then please let me know, so I don't write it out for no reason, okay?....hf
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Re: Another universe existed before ours – and energy from it is coming out of black holes, says Nobel Prize winner
I would be happy if scientists could come up with some truth about mankind and civilization from 12000 years ago--or an accurate weather prediction for next week. That is apparently far beyond their abilities but they insist on blabbing about shit from countless billions or trillions of years ago.
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This makes me wanna drop acid for the first time.





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