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Capitalism: please let me clarify my full thoughts. | |
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Tyrone Slothrop
 User ID: 52084210 United States10/09/2020 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | eh, the way things should be evaluated is "does it require force?". Minimum wage requires force. Free stuff requires force. Price controls require force. Quotas and various set asides for certain groups require force. Charging $1 a round for 9mm bullets doesn't require force. Demanding $15 an hour to work for someone doesn't require force. I've gotten a lot of red for telling the truth and being right. Just sayin' |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79472676 United States10/09/2020 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Capitalism is the best of many bad systems. Quoting: Tennessee Patriot I am an ardent Capitalist and I will defend its tenets with all of my intellect. That said, Capitalism, being a creation of man, has inherent weaknesses. Regardless of what you may think of Ayn Rand (I wont post my full thoughts on her because it would earn me a ban), she pointed out some of these flaws. Left unchecked, a pure Capitalist system will see all of us working; seven days a week, 12 hours a day. We’ve actually seen this in our history. Read it. Do you like weekends? Thank the Unions (yes it tastes like shit to say that). However, it was the Unions that gave Capitalist robber-barons (crony, next point) that kick in the balls that was sorely needed. Capitalism, like any other system, will naturally become crony. It will build monopolies. It will engage in unbridled usury. Therefore, Capitalism needs a good square kick in the balls to keep it honest. IE: Good God fearing men who know these things and keep Capitalism healthy and able to reward those workers who are willing to put in above and beyond to get the extra profit they deserve for their efforts. You are making the same mistake that many unaware people make. You are confusing Capitalism with Free Enterprise. Free Enterprise is what we should demand. Communism and Capitalism are just the two sides of the non-Gentile's coin of control of the Gentiles. Communism, i.e. revolution from below and Capitalism, i.e. control of wealth from above. Both controlled by the non-Gentiles. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78340688 United States10/09/2020 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | eh, the way things should be evaluated is "does it require force?". Minimum wage requires force. Free stuff requires force. Price controls require force. Quotas and various set asides for certain groups require force. Quoting: Tyrone Slothrop Charging $1 a round for 9mm bullets doesn't require force. Demanding $15 an hour to work for someone doesn't require force. A man (or woman) should be able to sell their skills to the highest bidder. This is a tenet of health Capitalism, and is as natural as the green grass. Prices are determined by what a consumer is willing to pay for a given item. This is a healthy and natural by-product of a thriving Capitalist society. Price gouging can be a sticky wicket. However, a Capitalist market will set a natural rationing price for a high-demand item. This is getting into supply and demand, which is cool, but my OP was to clarify an unfair wound I received by someone unwilling to engage me in an open and honest debate. While I appreciate someone calling me aside, I would like to have a bit of ‘due process’ before I’m unknowingly skewered a day or so after the fact. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78340688 United States10/09/2020 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Capitalism is the best of many bad systems. Quoting: Tennessee Patriot I am an ardent Capitalist and I will defend its tenets with all of my intellect. That said, Capitalism, being a creation of man, has inherent weaknesses. Regardless of what you may think of Ayn Rand (I wont post my full thoughts on her because it would earn me a ban), she pointed out some of these flaws. Left unchecked, a pure Capitalist system will see all of us working; seven days a week, 12 hours a day. We’ve actually seen this in our history. Read it. Do you like weekends? Thank the Unions (yes it tastes like shit to say that). However, it was the Unions that gave Capitalist robber-barons (crony, next point) that kick in the balls that was sorely needed. Capitalism, like any other system, will naturally become crony. It will build monopolies. It will engage in unbridled usury. Therefore, Capitalism needs a good square kick in the balls to keep it honest. IE: Good God fearing men who know these things and keep Capitalism healthy and able to reward those workers who are willing to put in above and beyond to get the extra profit they deserve for their efforts. You are making the same mistake that many unaware people make. You are confusing Capitalism with Free Enterprise. Free Enterprise is what we should demand. Communism and Capitalism are just the two sides of the non-Gentile's coin of control of the Gentiles. Communism, i.e. revolution from below and Capitalism, i.e. control of wealth from above. Both controlled by the non-Gentiles. Fair point. You aren’t my “average customer.” ;-)  |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78340688 United States10/09/2020 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Capitalism , polymaterial to build more sofas as according to its programming... I'm competition with other AI workbots to produce more sofas from ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77484656 until theres nothing left but wood framed leather sofas ...  No one requires anyone to participate in a free-market economy. This is entirely your decision. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76667758 Canada10/09/2020 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Capitalism is the best of many bad systems. Quoting: Tennessee Patriot I am an ardent Capitalist and I will defend its tenets with all of my intellect. That said, Capitalism, being a creation of man, has inherent weaknesses. Regardless of what you may think of Ayn Rand (I wont post my full thoughts on her because it would earn me a ban), she pointed out some of these flaws. Left unchecked, a pure Capitalist system will see all of us working; seven days a week, 12 hours a day. We’ve actually seen this in our history. Read it. Do you like weekends? Thank the Unions (yes it tastes like shit to say that). However, it was the Unions that gave Capitalist robber-barons (crony, next point) that kick in the balls that was sorely needed. Capitalism, like any other system, will naturally become crony. It will build monopolies. It will engage in unbridled usury. Therefore, Capitalism needs a good square kick in the balls to keep it honest. IE: Good God fearing men who know these things and keep Capitalism healthy and able to reward those workers who are willing to put in above and beyond to get the extra profit they deserve for their efforts. I agree with what you are saying here.. and I have a Bachelor of commerce degree. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78340688 United States10/09/2020 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Capitalism is the best of many bad systems. Quoting: Tennessee Patriot I am an ardent Capitalist and I will defend its tenets with all of my intellect. That said, Capitalism, being a creation of man, has inherent weaknesses. Regardless of what you may think of Ayn Rand (I wont post my full thoughts on her because it would earn me a ban), she pointed out some of these flaws. Left unchecked, a pure Capitalist system will see all of us working; seven days a week, 12 hours a day. We’ve actually seen this in our history. Read it. Do you like weekends? Thank the Unions (yes it tastes like shit to say that). However, it was the Unions that gave Capitalist robber-barons (crony, next point) that kick in the balls that was sorely needed. Capitalism, like any other system, will naturally become crony. It will build monopolies. It will engage in unbridled usury. Therefore, Capitalism needs a good square kick in the balls to keep it honest. IE: Good God fearing men who know these things and keep Capitalism healthy and able to reward those workers who are willing to put in above and beyond to get the extra profit they deserve for their efforts. I agree with what you are saying here.. and I have a Bachelor of commerce degree. Thank you sir! I do admire your degree. I’ll bet that’s some interesting knowledge. (Mine is in IT, but I’m a few years retired :-) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79472676 United States10/09/2020 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (Quotation from a ---ish banker by the Comte de Saint-Aulaire in Geneve contre la Paix Libraire Plan, Paris, 1936) |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79472676 United States10/09/2020 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The reason these general monopolies are formed by non-Gentiles is that the non-Gentile is international, tenacious and determined upon reaching the very end of his task. He is not satisfied in any trade until that trade is, as far as possible, under his complete control, and he has for the extension of that control the support of his brethren throughout the world. He has at the same time the international knowledge and international indifference which further aid his efforts. But even were the quite recent monopolies in metal and other trades taken, as they ought to be taken, from these few alien masters of them, there would remain that partial monopoly... which a few non-Gentiles have exercised not only today, but recurrently throughout history, over the highest finance; that is, over the credit of the nations, and therefore today, as never before, over the whole field of the world's industry." (Hilaire Belloc, The "non-Gentiles", p. 94). |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78340688 United States10/09/2020 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Marxism, you say, is the bitterest opponent of capitalism, which is sacred to us. For the simple reason that they are opposite poles, they deliver over to us the two poles of the earth and permit us to be its axis. These two opposites, Bolshevism and ourselves, find ourselves identified in the Internationale. And these two opposites, the doctrine of the two poles of society, meet in their unity of purpose, the renewal of the world from above by the control of wealth, and from below by revolution." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79472676 (Quotation from a ---ish banker by the Comte de Saint-Aulaire in Geneve contre la Paix Libraire Plan, Paris, 1936) Agreed. Yes, I’m actually a proponent of Free Enterprise. As I tried to indicate (above), you aren’t the normal “rank and file” GLPer who, sadly, isn’t typically versed in these higher ideals. This, combined with an unfair demerit I received, was what prompted this thread. For any interested in these higher truths (which I wholeheartedly recommend), look into what AC 79472676 is saying here. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78340688 United States10/09/2020 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The reason these general monopolies are formed by non-Gentiles is that the non-Gentile is international, tenacious and determined upon reaching the very end of his task. He is not satisfied in any trade until that trade is, as far as possible, under his complete control, and he has for the extension of that control the support of his brethren throughout the world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79472676 He has at the same time the international knowledge and international indifference which further aid his efforts. But even were the quite recent monopolies in metal and other trades taken, as they ought to be taken, from these few alien masters of them, there would remain that partial monopoly... which a few non-Gentiles have exercised not only today, but recurrently throughout history, over the highest finance; that is, over the credit of the nations, and therefore today, as never before, over the whole field of the world's industry." (Hilaire Belloc, The "non-Gentiles", p. 94). Bringing the truth like a boss!  (Remember my comments about avoiding a ban.) |
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