Attention Conservative Americans: buy anything you or your family will need right now.

Don’t discount the dollar store foods.

Saw an old Mexican guy with his little boy”grocery shopping” at a dollar Tree. A whole basket of food! Rice, beans, TP, drinks, sodas, bread tortillas and such.

The whole bill was like $43.

Excellent point.

We're all doomed irregardless what does it matter

Ask yourself

What would Putin do?

Not everybody has the cash to get generators, guns, ammo, 3 tons of rice....

Me, I've bought toiletries, batteries, shoes, survival knifes...

still planning to get can openers, people I live with break and bend the can openers after about 3 months of usage.... so maybe I'll stock up on can openers and canned stuff!

About all I can afford.

If electricity goes out, well, then maybe I'll google how to make animal traps or go fishing. Luckily I live in a place where water is extremely plentiful.

Maybe I'll get a BB Gun to shoot rabbits and squirrels, lots of those around here :-)

I'll grill a Squirel on my barbecue... will need charcoal briquettes.

You are way ahead of most people. :)

Add to that, get a bag of barn lime too. Cover you waste with it either in the outhouse or where ever you dump.

Last Edited by Bud Fox on 10/09/2020 09:59 PM

Three months from now right before Biden is sworn in you doomsayers are going to once again urge us to stock up but you know what? There was no national emergency, no shut down, no radical leftist takeover. Seems like you folks are wrong most the time.

Last Edited by Bankroll on 01/22/2021 01:38 PM

Just remembered this: a silcock key. That was a suggestion on a thread way back in February. You use them to open water spigots in urban areas (commercial buildings, etc.)

Think about your backyard spigot (if you have one). It has a handle or knob. The commercial buildings have a similar spigot, but no handle. You need a silcock key to turn it on. Pliers might work, but the right tool always makes things easier.

Hmm...can't afford to stock up right now, unless of course we don't have to pay our bills, mortgage during this time?

Sigh..... These are troubling time for all of us. Good thread, a few things I haven't seen mentioned:

Never mind all the toilet paper, what about a fill valve for your toilet, it is good to have a spare.

Kitchen and bathroom taps used to last forever, only repair needed was a new washer..not any more.

I think having a cheap set of bathroom sink taps and kitchen taps on hand just in case is a good idea.

Easy to install.

Recently moved out of a big house, so no land now (for burying human waste) - or humans...but whatev.

We do live near a pond now, but I have no idea about filtering the water to be potable.

An someone help?

Great comment. I live in a "modern" apartment building, which means everything looks nice, but we have those expensive crappy fixtures. When we were in lockdown, our maintenance people were only working on emergency repairs, so I bought some extra tools and such.

Well, the toilet started making shrieking noises, so I watched some YouTube videos, turned off the water, took the whole inside-the-tank thing apart, cleaned it, and voila. It wasn't even broken. I could have replaced the fill valve for $10 if I needed to.

Don't get me started on the fancy kitchen faucet. I hate it. I've taken apart the side handle and the pull down sprayer (that took forever to figure out), and it still makes a whistling / shrieking sound sometimes. I don't know how to go further with that one.

Anyway, I agree with you. Simple is better. If I ever build a house or cabin one day, I will install NORMAL faucets and fixtures. Way easier to fix. :)

FULLY AGREE!

Be sure to char the squirrel really well done. Depending on where you are in the US they can carry plague.

Last Edited by mlabors on 10/09/2020 10:39 PM

Check out the small wood burning stoves.....when propane, gas, and kerosene is not available.....look up the efficient rocket stoves....even in urban areas, there is wood to be had.....busted up pallets, furniture, etc.....a stove uses less wood, attracts less attention, and more efficient than a open fire....

Should have been doing this since March or early April, but late is still better than never.

Remember the basic rules...

Water
Food
Shelter
Defense

Stay Grey

Good luck on finding ammor or firearms...

... but long term food is still available at most stores or online. Rice, Beans, Spices, Soup Mixes, Canned Veggies....

Don't forget the OTC's and basic hygine cause you're going to need them as well.

I think you have to filter it with coffee filters or something similar to get the sediment out. Then you have to boil it or treat it with bleach or water purification tablets (they both expire, so keep track). Or run it through a good filter like a Sawyer or Katadyn. They can get clogged up, though, so it's best to have multiple methods. :)

Get a sawyer water filter. Under $25 bucks and is one of the best

If electricity goes out, you’re not going to be googling anything.

Most libraries with internet also have a printer you can use for a small price per page. Print out what you need now. Do it.

Use an old T-shirt doubled over to remove the largest bits of crud before you boil it or run it through a Sawyer.

The Sawyer can be backflushed with clean water to clear the filter.

For price is the best available.

If you're going to use bleech make sure it doesn't have any additives and go online and down load the instructions for using bleech to purify water.

If you got big bucks get a Burky for family use.

I hear ya bro. I’m pretty broke myself.

So which billion man army is going to come to America undetected?

The few left, hybrids and mercs won't be out for long

Water is the main thing you need.
Have a couple potable water rated 55 gallon blue water barrels filled with tap water and capped off.
(And a drum pump and drum bung wrench.

And a few 7 gallon scepter plastic water jugs for portability.
Have several .2 micron water filters.
Katydin has a base camp gravity fed bag filter.
Also get a pump filter and maybe a Sawyer squeeze filter.
Figure out where you can get your water that you can run though a filter and or Chlorinate with bleach.
You can dig, jet or drive a shallow well 25 ft deep in most places and put a pitcher pump on top.
Collecting water off a tar roof is not potable, due to the leached hydrocarbons.
You can also get a cheap matrix domed filter that you install into a 5 gallon bucket (food grade buckets). You stack the 2 buckets and it is like a cheap Berkey filter. Also wrap a coffee filter around the dome to keep it from plugging with fines.

Medical
A decent trauma kit and a few bottles of the more important antibiotics should be on hand. Celox or Quickclot bleeding stopper, a couple CAT tourniquets, various dressing and pads, a SWAT Tourniquet. Eye wash and eye wash cup. alchohol, the normal bandaids, tape, thermometer, fingertip Pulseox, BP monitor, prescription meds tat you take.
Minor surgery - suture kit with scalpels, various weights and types sutures. Benadryl, aspirin, Naproxin, Elderberry syrup for viral infections, A complete mineral supplement and vitamin supplement.

Trapping, hunting, butchering and preserving equipment
A dozen each conibear traps in a few sizes with trap setter, leg holds, snares, stakes, trap wax and dye, rat traps, steel rat traps with teeth.

Butchering knives, sharpening ceramic sticks, saws, gambrel
Meat grinder, rubber (neoprene gloves). large pot for boiling traps and maybe a 1 minute dunk of the smaller animals in boiing water to knock off any parasites.

Normal hunting firearms. .22LR, 12 Ga long barrel with assorted bame loads, and a deer rifle for the size and distances you have in your area, with a good scope for the rifles, cleaning kits and enough ammo.

Pressure canner and a bunch of cans lids and rings. Ball canning guide book.

Salt is cheap and used for preserving and also needed for consumption. Easy to get now, difficult later. Get a plastic new garbage can and drop a couple bulk bags of salt in there.

Rice and beans in buckets with mylar and O2 adsorber.

Wheat berries can be bought from farmer's coops or LDS stores.
Having a few hundred lbs of wheat and a wheat grinder, and yeast, backing bread pans, and baking powder (preishable, replace annually), sugar will keep you in bread and biscuits for a while.

Defense

I would simply suggest getting an AR-15 AND an AK47 with at least 1000 rounds each. Put a scope or a red dot on the AR, and make sure both have a decent sling. If you encounter more ammo by scavenging or whatever, odds are good that one of these 2 guns will fire it.

Canned Food
Get a bunch of what you like to eat.
Chile with meat, corned beef hash, beef stew, chicken breast meat, Chicken ala king, would be my first suggestions. Peanut butter of course as well.

Cooking oil goes rancid after about 18 months, but you need cooking oil, so have extra.


Firestarters
You should have a good assortment of ways to make fire.
bic type lighters, Ferro rods, long kitchen matches, storm proof matches, etc.

Generators
SHould have at least 2 generators around 4000 watts preferably to run your freezer, fridge, a window air conditioner or power your nat gas furnace in a power outage.

Tools
Tire plug kits, air compressors, lug wrenches (4 way and an electric or pneumatic impact gun). A good garage jack, jack stands. a couple spare tires mounted on wheels and balanced.


Tools, repair materials, maintenance materials, house repair materials (shingles, roof tar, nails, screws, etc.
Ryobi - set of their power tools and devices.

Latrine
Shovels, buckets with fitted toilet seats, camp chemical toilets, or just dig a hole and dump sawdust over the waste upon each use.

Instead of toilet paper, you might consider a bidet or a hand held shower head.

If you store pool shock good luck. That stuff is too evil and hyper reactive for me. Just get a couple gallons of bleach and replace them annually. A free chlorine test kit like they use for pools is a good idea to confirm you treated suspect water with enough active chlorine to render it potable.

Can't have too many 5 gallon buckets and lids.

spare clothes, boots, shoes, underwear.




Several things are happening.
The government is issueing more debt like it is water. eventually this has to cause inflation. So buy it now or pay more later.

Also, we could have some sort of war with China, be it a trade war or a limited real war to defend Taiwan etc. All those cheap chinese imports could dry up in a hurry.

There are other countries we import from, but supply and demand impacts will drive prices up and may affect availability.

If there is civil unrest in the US or civil war, then supply chain impacts will be major.

Last Edited by JustmeTX on 10/10/2020 05:20 AM

You want ‘dry’ bleach or pool shock.

Look for packages of “calcium hypochlorite 73%.” You can use this at any time to make liquid bleach. Print off instructions from the internet.

Remember though: Calcium Hypochlorite 73%.

Make sure you have at the very least:

Canned goods and other goods with long-term storage such as pasta, rice, beans, etc

ensured water source not reliant on municipal water or electricity

toilet tissue

firearms and/or other defensive weapons

a way to cook without electricity

Speaking of bleach, it’s a fact that bottled liquid bleach has a relatively short shelf life. After about six months it loses all effectiveness. One can make bleach from pool chemicals, but there is an easier method: bleach tablets. These have a shelf life measured in years, and can be kept in reserve to allow bleach to be made as needed. One tablet makes one gallon of regular-strength bleach when added to water, and come 32 tablets to a bottle. That’s a lot of bleach! I’ve purchased them in Wal-Mart, and they’re available online, as well.

Yes, but make sure you use “calcium hypochlorite 73%.” I don’t know much, but I know to a certainty that this, precisely, is what you need to make bleach ;-) (At least this is one sure-fire way). Make sure it only contains the calcium hypochlorite. No scents, etc.

You can easily find it on Amazon. It’s going up in price though...