Climate Expert: WARNING OF GREAT FLOODS & DROUGHT FOR TEXAS | |
Babe in a Bunker
User ID: 315611 United States 10/26/2007 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you really have floods and drought at the same time? Well it seems so real I can see it And it seems so real I can feel it And it seems so real I can taste it And it seems so real I can hear it So why can't I touch it? So why can't I touch it? Twatter: [link to twitter.com] |
HardTruth
User ID: 317766 United States 10/26/2007 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A top climate scientist warned Wednesday that Texas faces a dual threat from floods and drought if global warming is left unchecked. Predictions made two decades ago about the effects of a warming world are now beginning to come true. "Texas is in the line of fire for double-barreled climate impacts. What we said in the 1980s, and is beginning to come true now, is that both ends of the hydrological cycle get intensified by global warming." A warmer climate increases evaporation. It both sucks moisture from the ground, intensifying drought, and increases atmospheric humidity, which causes more rain to fall during extreme events. It remains possible — and not entirely painful — for nations to tackle global warming. The most important step would be to prohibit the construction of coal-fired power plants until technology is developed to capture carbon dioxide produced during the coal-burning process. Coal remains a popular energy source with electricity providers, because it is a cheap source of power and the United States has abundant supplies. However, coal burning is also the worst producer of the greenhouse gases that, scientists say, are causing the planet to warm. A second step would be to gradually adopt a fee for carbon dioxide emissions. Although this would raise the price of energy, it would spur companies to develop alternative energy sources such as wind and solar. Quoting: Skywatchfull story at [link to skywatch-media.com] I can tell you first hand Texas had a severe drought for about 4 years, followed by severe flooding this year. ------------------------------------------------- Let the truth be told.....though the heavens fall! ------------------------------------------------- |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 317770 United States 10/26/2007 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's see.....if we get a drought (no rain) then this quack thinks the moisture will be sucked out of the ground (drought means no moisture in ground or air, since it would not have rained). Then this quack thinks that that moisture will cause it to rain more. Now, that means the drought would be over...like this year. Sure was great that not once did we hit 100 degrees this whole year! Not once! Great for us. Now, before you beleive this global warming crap, think about this. I have lived in Texas all my life. Nothing different for us here but "global cooling". Not once did it hit 100 degrees here in Southwest Texas. This quack making his predictions knows nothing. |
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Skywatch
(OP) User ID: 317764 United States 10/26/2007 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's see.....if we get a drought (no rain) then this quack thinks the moisture will be sucked out of the ground (drought means no moisture in ground or air, since it would not have rained). Then this quack thinks that that moisture will cause it to rain more. Now, that means the drought would be over...like this year. Sure was great that not once did we hit 100 degrees this whole year! Not once! Great for us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317770Now, before you beleive this global warming crap, think about this. I have lived in Texas all my life. Nothing different for us here but "global cooling". Not once did it hit 100 degrees here in Southwest Texas. This quack making his predictions knows nothing. You APPEAR to be the quack here. Hanson is a renouned scientist and expert in his field. Where dos that leave you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 317664 United States 10/26/2007 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's see.....if we get a drought (no rain) then this quack thinks the moisture will be sucked out of the ground (drought means no moisture in ground or air, since it would not have rained). Then this quack thinks that that moisture will cause it to rain more. Now, that means the drought would be over...like this year. Sure was great that not once did we hit 100 degrees this whole year! Not once! Great for us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317770Now, before you beleive this global warming crap, think about this. I have lived in Texas all my life. Nothing different for us here but "global cooling". Not once did it hit 100 degrees here in Southwest Texas. This quack making his predictions knows nothing. Sure was nice wasnt it. And we have an early fall for my area(Dallas) I had frost on the ground this morning,usually doesnt come until late nov. |
Skywatch
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 898 United States 10/26/2007 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.deanesmay.com] 2,660 physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, meteorologists, oceanographers, and other environmental scientists (so far) have signed a petition saying that global warming hysteria is pseudoscientific baloney. They've been joined by an additional 5,017 chemists, biochemists, biologists, and other life scientists, and over 10,000 other scientists, attached to major universities and research organizations around the world. Yet if you went by what "environmental" activist groups like Greenpeace, Sierra Club, or the so-called "Environmental News Network" tell you, you'd think this petition, and others like it, never existed. The Oregon Petition reads, in its entirety, as follows... We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind. There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth. The petition was put together by Dr. Frederick Seitz, the former President of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences. Thousands of qualified scientists have signed it, and more are signing all the time. If you're a qualified scientist or meteorologist who'd like to sign the petition yourself, or want to see a list of all the signers, click here to go to the web site run by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, which is sponsoring the initiative. The Oregon Petition is not the only such petition signed by scientists, either. Over 4,000 scientists from 106 countries, including 72 Nobel Prize winners, have signed the Heidelberg Appeal. This petition, issued in response to the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro back in 1992, warns against "the emergence of an irrational ideology which is opposed to scientific and industrial progress and impedes economic and social development." They further warn "the authorities in charge of our planet's destiny against decisions which are supported by pseudoscientific arguments or false and nonrelevant data." The Leipzig Declaration is similar. It was signed by scientists who work in climate research, who strongly object to the lack of science underlying the IPCC--a group whose work is usually cited as definitive by Environmental News Network, World Wildlife Fund, Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, and others pushing warnings about global warming. The Leipzig Declaration reads, in part: "...based on all the evidence available to us, we cannot subscribe to the politically inspired world view that envisages climate catastrophes and calls for hasty actions. For this reason, we consider the drastic emission control policies deriving from the Kyoto conference -- lacking credible support from the underlying science -- to be ill-advised and premature." A similar statement was released around the same time by dozens of climate scientists employed by government, university, and private research organizations. It attacked Kyoto and similar plans to curb so-called "greenhouse gasses," saying, in part, that "Such policy initiatives derive from highly uncertain scientific theories. They are based on the unsupported assumption that catastrophic global warming follows from the burning of fossil fuels and requires immediate action. We do not agree." All of these petitions and more can be found at the Science and Environment Policy Project's web site. Although you'd think much of this would be explosive news, it's gotten scant attention from most of the news media, and very little from so-called environmentalist groups. Even worse, when they do get discussed, they are often dismissed as "right wing extremists" or "in the pocket of big business." Yet anyone who reads the list of signers of these petitions can see that these are scientists from major universities around the world, not political ideologues. Why is it that when so-called environmentalists encounter someone who disagrees with them, they feel the need to bash people and accuse them of political bias? Why can't you simply disagree with World Wildlife Fund, Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, or ENN without being a rabid extremist? If there is to be real discussion of the issue of global warming, it would seem to me to first require looking at what all the available science has to say, and what actual working scientists say about it. Too bad so many "environmentalist" groups seem to refuse to do exactly that. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 317764 United States 10/26/2007 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Natural decline 'hurting lives' Continuing destruction of the natural world is affecting the health, wealth and well-being of people around the globe, according to a major UN report. The Global Environment Outlook says most trends are going the wrong way. It lists degradation of farmland, loss of forest cover, pollution, dwindling fresh water supplies and overfishing among society's environmental ills. There is a "remarkable lack of urgency" to reverse these trends. "There continue to be persistent and intractable problems unresolved and unaddressed. This assault on the global environment risks undermining the many advances human society has made. Past issues remain and new ones are emerging, from the rapid rise of oxygen 'dead zones' in the oceans to the resurgence of new and old diseases linked in part with environmental degradation." The well-being of millions of people in the developing world is put at risk by failure to remedy problems which have been tackled in richer societies. "This assault on the global environment risks undermining the many advances human society has made in recent decades. It is undercutting our fight against poverty. It could even come to jeopardise international peace and security." </div> [link to news.bbc.co.uk] |
TX.Patriot User ID: 288913 United States 10/26/2007 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's see.....if we get a drought (no rain) then this quack thinks the moisture will be sucked out of the ground (drought means no moisture in ground or air, since it would not have rained). Then this quack thinks that that moisture will cause it to rain more. Now, that means the drought would be over...like this year. Sure was great that not once did we hit 100 degrees this whole year! Not once! Great for us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317770Now, before you beleive this global warming crap, think about this. I have lived in Texas all my life. Nothing different for us here but "global cooling". Not once did it hit 100 degrees here in Southwest Texas. This quack making his predictions knows nothing. Further, the temperature is exceptionally cool for this time of year...at least in East Texas. Must make that distinction 'cause ya know TX is a big place with different climates. ;) . |
Skywatch
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